[00:04] <tomreyn> i lack context there, but, just in case this hasn't been tried, yet, i'd definitely recommend running multiple passes of a full memory test in the same bios/uefi boot mode which a malfunction seems to have been triggered in. and to check disks' s.m.a.r.t. data, too.
[00:05] <geard> Ad
[00:20] <robertparkerx> can someone help teach me something. A little back story a site was hacked today. I've done everything in test environment but the bash (I think script?) I was given. It's just code what looks like. What do I do with it?
[00:20] <robertparkerx> I know how to create the crontab job
[00:21] <robertparkerx> the bash just changes permissions
[00:22] <quadrathoch2> robertparkerx, i still don't get the link between getting hacked and a bash script oO (especially when it only changes ownership)
[00:23] <robertparkerx> I could not explain
[00:24] <quadrathoch2> so from whom did you get the script then?
[00:24] <robertparkerx> my boss
[00:26] <robertparkerx> I just have the snippet in a paste
[00:28] <quadrathoch2> so to figure out the whole story: you were hacked, (hopefully fixed the issue) and now you should run a script that fixes permission isssues? or what should it do?
[00:28] <quadrathoch2> robertparkerx, if you are allowed to post that paste, that would be nice
[00:29] <robertparkerx> Sure it only has paths
[00:30] <Ether_Man> Is there any way I can grant permission to use chown/chmod to a non root user?
[00:30] <robertparkerx> https://url.hashdev.org/14
[00:30] <quadrathoch2> just want to make sure, that there is no private information or the like
[00:31] <sarnold> Ether_Man: chmod yes, chown no
[00:31] <Ether_Man> :/
[00:32] <sarnold> Ether_Man: what are you trying to accomplish?
[00:32] <quadrathoch2> robertparkerx, hm imho those permissions are not restrictive enough, but not my soup ^^. so now you want to run that on a certain period?
[00:32] <robertparkerx> yes
[00:33] <robertparkerx> every night
[00:33] <quadrathoch2> cron or systemd-timers?
[00:33] <robertparkerx> cron
[00:34] <sarnold> cron is nice because it's a single line; cron is annoying because it emails you the output and quite often systems don't have working email any more
[00:34] <Ether_Man> sarnold, ah well I was going to update a bit of policies for some programs while it's down due to a bug. But basically, I need one app to set the owner and permission to a different group. There's 3 apps. One fetches a file. Another processes the file. Another reads the file. I'd like as little cross contamination in between them so to speak so was thinking of moving them to different users, but without chown, that's not really gonna
[00:34] <Ether_Man> work
[00:35] <robertparkerx> I thought I could just ouput to a log
[00:35] <sarnold> systemd-timers is nice because you can get the output in journalctl, systemd-timers is annoying because it's a minimum of two files and several commands to do what cron can do in one line...
[00:35] <robertparkerx> output*
[00:35] <robertparkerx> Well print to a log
[00:36] <quadrathoch2> 0 23 * * * /path/to/script, editing with crontab -e
[00:36] <quadrathoch2> robertparkerx, ops, wanted to ping you
[00:36] <robertparkerx> okay for php I normally do php -q path/to/script
[00:37] <quadrathoch2> will run every day at 11pm
[00:37] <quadrathoch2> yeah
[00:37] <robertparkerx> but what file extension do I use for bash
[00:37] <robertparkerx> does it matter
[00:37] <quadrathoch2> most people do .sh
[00:37] <sarnold> Ether_Man: there's probably a happy way to do what you need -- program A runs as user A, downloads file; program B runs as user B, reads the A files fine, writes new B files as user B; program C reads the B files fine, writes new files as C user...
[00:37] <robertparkerx> could I run it from terminal too?
[00:37] <sarnold> Ether_Man: I run something similar, my ubuntu archive rsync job runs as a restricted user via a systemd service file -- and systemd timer, just as I was complaining a few lines above :)_
[00:38] <quadrathoch2> yes if it's executable (which it needs to be)
[00:39] <robertparkerx> a+x ?
[00:40] <robertparkerx> ty for showing me this
[00:40] <robertparkerx> a lot
[00:40] <Ether_Man> sarnold, App B doesn't really have the capability to copy the contents of the file. Like that. The processing it does is more like making a library of the files and moving them to the right locations, renaming them in an orderly manner and such.
[00:40] <quadrathoch2> no problem, :) btw. yes but normally i just do +x
[00:41] <quadrathoch2> or rather I use the numbers
[00:43] <sarnold> Ether_Man: you could either put both A and B in the same group and give both groups write access to the directories containing the files, or you could bust out setfacl and give write permissions to the directories in question to both users
[00:45] <devslash> is trhere a way to make the grub menu show up at bootup if it doesnt normally
[00:45] <Ether_Man> sarnold, The apps have a shared group as it is right now so I guess I'll have to keep using that to decide all permissions. Just don't really like giving A permission to the files as served to C :/
[00:45] <devslash> i need to boot into recpovery mode but grub doesnt show up it boots right away
[00:46] <sarnold> devslash: normally holding down left shift will do the job
[00:46] <devslash> didnt do anything
[00:46] <sarnold> Ether_Man: depending upon what you're trying to accomplish, apparmor profiles or systemd namespace tricks may help
[00:47] <robertparkerx> It worked out fantastically :D
[00:47] <robertparkerx> ty again
[00:48] <quadrathoch2> devslash, try esc
[00:48] <quadrathoch2> robertparkerx, :)
[00:48] <devslash> esc worked
[00:49] <devslash> but i cant boot into recovery mode'
[00:49] <quadrathoch2> devslash, what error do you get?
[00:49] <devslash> even after adding single to the grub line
[00:49] <devslash> none
[00:49] <devslash> it just boots normally
[00:50] <devslash> how do you boot into recoverty mode ?
[00:50] <devslash> I thought that you add single to the linux line in the grub menu but that doesnt work
[00:51] <Bashing-om> devslash: At the grub boot menu is "advanced" in that selection is the option "recovery".
[00:52] <devslash> getting to grub is tricky on my computer
[00:52] <devslash> it weorks maybe 10% of the time when I press esc
[00:54] <Bashing-om> devslash: There is but a 3 second window of opportunity for grub to see escape - keep trying to find that sweet spot :P
[00:55] <devslash> its like 0.5 seconds
[00:56] <quadrathoch2> devslash, if you want you could increase that window (and I'm sure it's not 0.5 seconds) :)
[00:56] <devslash> not without being able to sudo
[00:56] <quadrathoch2> welp, yeah that's an issue
[00:56] <devslash> i think im gonna have to reformat
[00:57] <devslash> i cant get in
[00:57] <devslash> not even to grub
[00:57] <devslash> it goes straight to thre grub prompt not the grub menu
[00:57] <devslash> but the grub command line
[00:58] <quadrathoch2> devslash, what specifically did you do?
[00:58] <devslash> logged in via ssh which uses pub key auth
[00:58] <devslash> did sudo -i to do some admin stuff
[00:59] <devslash> it said password is not correct
[00:59] <devslash> thats it
[00:59] <devslash> havent changed it recently
[00:59] <quadrathoch2> can you change the password?
[00:59] <devslash> i changed it 6 days ago and have logged in many times since then
[00:59] <devslash> no
[00:59] <devslash> im trying to get into recovery mode
[00:59] <devslash> so i can do that
[00:59] <devslash> i just got to recovery
[01:00] <devslash> if i choose root it asks for root password
[01:00] <devslash> but i dunno ehat that is
[01:00] <quadrathoch2> well if you never changed that, there is no root password
[01:00] <devslash> is there anything else i can do before i reformat and start over
[01:00] <devslash> well it says that its incorrect if i dont enter one
[01:01] <quadrathoch2> devslash, yeah because empty means you can't login
[01:01] <quadrathoch2> but single should work
[01:01] <devslash> it doesnt
[01:01] <devslash> it does the same thing
[01:01] <devslash> asks for root password or ctrl d to continue
[01:01] <devslash> ctrl d boots up normally
[01:01] <devslash> which i dont want to do
[01:01] <Sven_vB> is SSH configured to accept 1. interactive passwords 2. empty passwords?
[01:02] <devslash> no
[01:02] <devslash> only pub key
[01:03] <Sven_vB> have you tried "2" as a boot argument? instead of "single"
[01:03] <devslash> no
[01:03] <Sven_vB> if you can't even get into grub, the SuperGrub Disk might help
[01:03] <devslash> what does that do
[01:03] <sarnold> devslash: boot with "init=/bin/bash" or "init=/usr/bin/bash"
[01:04] <Sven_vB> "2" is the old way of giving a runlevel as target. I'll see what the modern way is, too.
[01:04] <devslash> with single ir without ?
[01:04] <devslash> sarnold, do i use single or not when using init ?
[01:04] <Sven_vB> my custom revovery has "systemd.unit=multi-user.target", maybe there's single-user also
[01:05] <devslash> ahh that did the trick
[01:05] <Jordan_U> devslash: init=/bin/bash should do it, but if it doesn't then booting from a LiveUSB and chrooting in is another way to change passwords.
[01:05] <sarnold> devslash: 'single' will probably go through systemd's rescue target, and that will prompt you for a root password if you set one. init=/bin/bash will just run bash, and not ask for any passwords at all
[01:05] <devslash> yea thats what i needed thanks
[01:06] <devslash> i still dont know why I couldnt log in with my existing password
[01:06] <sarnold> devslash: once you're in, run passwd, set a new one, sync ; sync ; sync ; kill $$  --- it should reboot then
[01:07] <devslash> ok. I forgot to run sync. need to do it again :p
[01:07] <Kam> Is copying over the public/priv ssh key onto a new host fine?
[01:07] <devslash> yea you can as long as you set the right perms
[01:08] <sarnold> Kam: some folks prefer making new identities on every host, so if one host is compromised, you can just yank that one pubkey from all the other systems
[01:08] <Kam> How would I set the right perms? I just copied over the .ssh folder onto my hdd
[01:08] <devslash> 644 on .ssh and 600 on the key
[01:08] <Kam> Its just I have my public key stored on a school computer which I can't access anymore
[01:08] <Kam> So I really need that key xD
[01:08] <devslash> doh
[01:09] <Sven_vB> sarnold, why many syncs? what determines how many are appropriate?
[01:10] <sarnold> Kam: 700 on ~/.ssh 600 on ~/.ssh/id_rsa   (or whichever type)
[01:10] <devslash> oh ok yea sorry my bad
[01:10] <Sven_vB> actually that w-bit seems useless
[01:11] <sarnold> Sven_vB: probably one sync would do; three syncs has been tradition for decades, though. the sync syscall just *queues* data to be written, and when disks were spinning metal and slow, it was common to have to wait several seconds for everything to be written
[01:11] <sarnold> Sven_vB: and, of course, any pages in memory that were dirtied after that first sync wouldn't be queued to be flushed -- so that's the second sync
[01:11] <Sven_vB> sarnold, I see. then I should probably put some sleeps between them, too.
[01:11] <sarnold> Sven_vB: and the third sync is the pick up whatever might have been dirtied while typing the second sync command :)
[01:12] <sarnold> well the idea was that humans would't type sync<enter> super-quick..
[01:12] <devslash> if i change the password for 2 different user accounts do i need to run sync afer each pw change or just once ?
[01:12] <Sven_vB> sarnold, yeah, the sleep would only be required when you use ; as above
[01:13] <sarnold> yeah
[01:13] <Sven_vB> devslash, you need the syncs after you're done with all your changes
[01:13] <sarnold> devslash: just once, before rebootring
[01:13] <devslash> just so you know kill $$ doesnt do anything
[01:14] <Sven_vB> or just reboot cleanly with the "reboot" command, then you don't need to sync.
[01:14] <devslash> ctrl alt del does the trick too ;)
[01:15] <Sven_vB> yes when you have a keyboard connected, that's one way to do it.
[01:16] <Sven_vB> (as opposed to, e.g. a nullmodem link)
[01:17] <SpeedrunnerG55> the comunitheme-dark is missing for me
[01:18] <SpeedrunnerG55> how do i reinstall it?
[01:19] <sarnold> devslash: aw bugger, thanks
[01:22] <leftyfb> SpeedrunnerG55: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/07/yaru-ubuntu-theme
[01:23] <SpeedrunnerG55> how do i install it?
[01:23] <leftyfb> SpeedrunnerG55: you read the article
[01:25] <SpeedrunnerG55> it says comuniotheme is alreaddy installed
[01:25] <SpeedrunnerG55> but i dont see comunithyeme-dark
[01:26] <leftyfb> SpeedrunnerG55: reboot
[01:29] <SpeedrunnerG55> it is still not there
[01:30] <leftyfb> SpeedrunnerG55: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[01:31] <leftyfb> SpeedrunnerG55: use gnome tweak to change the theme
[01:33] <SpeedrunnerG55> im on ubuntu 18.04
[01:33] <SpeedrunnerG55> im trying to use gnome tweaks, but comunitheme dark isnt there
[01:36] <leftyfb> SpeedrunnerG55: it's under cursor and icons
[01:38] <leftyfb> SpeedrunnerG55: to use it for he entire session please read https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-community-theme/
[01:38] <leftyfb> don't use the ppa, you already have it installe.d Just sk..... nevermind
[01:43] <SpeedrunnerG55> i tried switching  the shellt he comunitheme on GTK and its still not there
[01:44] <leftyfb> SpeedrunnerG55: https://youtu.be/cwERjNBEbiw?t=108
[01:46] <SpeedrunnerG55> comunitheme dark is missing for him too
[01:47] <leftyfb> then there is no dark version
[01:48] <SpeedrunnerG55> i had it earlyer today
[01:48] <SpeedrunnerG55> then it just went missiong for no reason
[01:50] <SpeedrunnerG55> i found it
[01:50] <SpeedrunnerG55> i had to use comunitheme on snap
[01:51] <SpeedrunnerG55> then it showed up,
[01:51] <SpeedrunnerG55> thnx tho
[01:52] <leftyfb> :/
[01:52] <leftyfb> isn't that what the article I sent him originally said to do?
[02:21] <golden_ticket> Is there any software which I can run as a transparent proxy that supports udp?
[02:32] <Sven_vB> golden_ticket, maybe socat. depends on what you're trying to do
[02:33] <golden_ticket> Sven_vB, I'm trying to forward all udp traffic to an external proxy I purchased and then return that traffic to the application which requested the data.
[02:33] <Sven_vB> golden_ticket, how would the proxy know which packet is a reply to which earlier packet?
[02:34] <golden_ticket> watermarking
[02:34] <Sven_vB> golden_ticket, the first part, relaying outbound, is easy
[02:34] <Sven_vB> what kind of watermark?
[02:34] <golden_ticket> Sven_vB, I've heard of some kind of iptables extension which watermarks packets being relayed for udp...I can't remember the name of it though
[02:36] <Sven_vB> golden_ticket, if you get iptables (i.e. netfilter) to identify the replies, you could re-route them to another port that's reserved for forwarding "back" to you.
[02:36] <golden_ticket> hm
[02:36] <Sven_vB> then 2 socats should suffice to forward UDP packets in each direction respectively.
[02:37] <Sven_vB> my gut suspects this would have a lot of overlap with STUN.
[02:37] <golden_ticket> I don't know what STUN is
[02:37] <Sven_vB> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STUN
[03:11] <davido_> I had a broken apt upgrade: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Yk4Rz5H2YS/  .... any ideas?
[03:17] <davido_> Seems like a rather bad thing to have break.
[03:20] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic focal
[03:23] <davido_> I appreciate the reference, just not sure what the suggested course of action it implies.
[03:26] <Bashing-om> davido_: Just checking that the correct kernel was attempting to install - I have no idea now as to why there is " operation not permittted" :(
[03:27] <davido_> yeah, that's not cool. maybe a reboot.
[03:28] <davido_> first i'm confirming it on a separate system.
[03:31] <pi0> how do i troubleshoot when an app does not load
[03:31] <pi0> i install arduino ide
[03:31] <pi0> i get the splash logo but it does not load up
[03:31] <pi0> ubuntu 18.04
[03:33] <quadrathoch2> pi0, did you try to start it from terminal, normally errors are being thrown out on terminal
[03:33] <pi0> i can try that way
[03:34] <pi0> failed to load module
[03:34] <pi0> !paste
[03:35] <pi0> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vmTGWrdZJw/
[03:36] <quadrathoch2> is there more to it pi0?
[03:37] <pi0> that would be it
[03:37] <pi0> when i ran from cli
[03:37] <pi0> i do have 2 versions of java installed
[03:37] <pi0> 11 and 8
[03:38] <quadrathoch2> maybe that's a reason for the hiccup, sorry don't know java at all :/
[03:43] <davido_> A reboot followed by an apt --fix-broken install followed by a regular apt upgrade && apt update fixed my issue.
[03:46] <pi0> hmm
[03:46] <pi0> with arduino
[05:47] <sanav> PDF reader with annotation /marking feature?
[05:48] <sanav> for ubuntu 20.04 (gnome), i don't want KDE tools
[06:18] <Kam> Where can I get the mtdev-dev package?
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> !info mtdev-dev
[06:19] <Kam> I also get unable to locate mtdev-dev
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> !info libmtdev-dev
[06:20] <Kam> Thanks!
[06:23] <Kam> I'm trying to install mtrack and make the program
[06:24] <Monotoko> Anyone know how I can force an SSH to keepalive through a proxy? Even with tmux open on the remote side it still dies
[06:24] <Kam> I get 'usr/bin/ld: src/mtrack_test-hwstate.o: in function `hwstate_modify':'
[06:24] <Monotoko> ProxyCommand /bin/nc -X 5 -x 127.0.0.1:7891 -I 10 %h %p is what I have in my SSH config right now
[06:25] <Monotoko> right now it seems to be a choice of it dying every few minutes but being reasonably fast... or dealing with very slow SSH connections without the VPN (I'm in China)
[06:26] <Sakara> Hi folks I've completed a new installation using ZFS. I'm curious about the layout of the datasets. Is there any documentation about it? I'm specifically interested in where I should be creating my own datasets?
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> !zfs | Sakara
[06:27] <Sakara> Thanks lotuspsychje I'll check it out
[06:28] <Sakara> lotuspsychje, I'm quite familiar with ZFS and that documentation is an introduction to ZFS by the looks of things.
[06:28] <Kam> What should I add to deb-src if I wanna get xserver-xorg-input-mtrack
[06:29] <Kam> to sources.list*
[06:29] <blogten> hello... is anyone running Ubuntu on a MacPro1,1 here?
[06:38] <guiverc> Kam, it's found in 'universe' so you'll need universe... https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&searchon=names&keywords=xserver-xorg-input-mtrac
[06:39] <Kam> guiverc How would I add that to my sources.list? I'm quite new to this
[06:39] <ducasse> Kam: 'sudo add-apt-repository universe
[06:39] <ducasse> Kam: 'sudo add-apt-repository universe'
[06:40] <Kam> 'universe' distribution component is already enabled for all source
[06:40] <guiverc> Kam, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu  provides clues [beyond ducasse's easy fix :) ]
[06:40] <anonymip> anyone else having issues browsing mounted cifs shares with midnight commander under Ubuntu 20.04? I get "CIFS VFS: Close unmatched open
[06:40] <anonymip> any ideas what that mean?
[06:41] <ducasse> Kam: you need to enable source repos, you can do that from the 'software and updates' gui
[06:42] <anonymip> I can access the files via cli, so the issue seems to be related to midnight commande
[06:42] <skyliner_369> I'm trying to figure out how to tell cmake to build for windows, since I'm trying to build a game for my wandows frens to play with me
[06:44] <skyliner_369> there's plenty of links to "Here's how to build for linux on windows" when I try to search, but... not inverse.
[06:47] <akko> how do i see what programs are consuming ram on the terminal
[06:48] <skyliner_369> top or htop
[06:48] <coconut> akko, htop ?
[06:48] <akko> tanks
[06:48] <akko> tahnks*
[07:11] <golden_ticket> So I configured iptables to forward outbound traffic to an external IP address..but how do I accept incoming traffic and redirect it back to the source address?
[07:11] <golden_ticket> This is udp btw
[07:13] <zmagii> On Xubuntu, if I use CompressHandler, then Firefox asks to open a compressed file rather than decompress and display the website. Is this normal?
[07:23] <alazred> Hi there! Is there a special place to ask help regarding snaps on other distro then ubuntu ?
[07:24] <alazred> I have a snap that break at every reboot of the system. Not sure how to proceed to pin point the problem.
[07:31] <zamba> i'm attempting to use ctrl+alt+shift+r to start a screen recording, but nothing happens
[07:32] <`mist> Hey guys, i tried installing a pihole in a docker contained and followed various guides and i eventually gave up
[07:32] <`mist> however now i've completely messed up name resolution on this host... any chance anyone has the time to help me sort it out?
[07:36] <`mist> it seems i've installed resolvconf but it doesn't look like it's being used somewhow...
[07:38] <skyliner_369> it's a terminal screenshot... what programs am I missing that's causing make to spit out several hundreds of errors like this? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/bkXM72V9/image.png
[07:42] <`mist> problem solved, the symlink to /etc/resolv.conf was missing
[07:43] <skyliner_369> were there any changes to make 3 days ago?
[07:43] <golden_ticket>  I've got a strange problem with a rule for iptables that I wrote. iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p udp -i ens3 -j DNAT --to-destination proxy-ip shows that packets are being intercepted, but when I look at the source ip address on the server it is not from the --to-destination ip address
[07:43] <golden_ticket> ...what am I doing wrong?
[08:58] <zeripath> Hi! Could anyone help with making libreoffice allow me to set my gpg key?
[08:59] <zeripath> I go to Tools/Options and look at the Cryptography settings and there is no openpgp signing key in the dropdown.
[08:59] <zeripath> If I open keys separately from libreoffice I have a personal keyring with two keys in it
[09:00] <zeripath> but if I somehow get the keys management software to open through clicking in libreoffice there's no personal keyrings.
[09:01] <zeripath> It's very weird and I don't know where to look to begin debugging
[09:52] <pikapika> kinda annoying how apt sometimes starts up on its own and starts downloading shit
[09:52] <pikapika> Gonna have to see how to disable this
[09:59] <pikapika> bt
[09:59] <pikapika> bt
[09:59] <pikapika> btw
[10:00] <pikapika> What happens when a particular package has been manually put on hold, but the upgrade of other packages depend on getting a new version of it?
[10:34] <Ranc1d> cant for the life of me get root login to work via ssh on ubuntu 20.04. i have permitted Root in the sshd conf
[10:34] <nikolam> what is the best way to acquire debug info , when VLC is constatnly fails to exit and can be only killed with kill -9 pid . It is the same bug as were on 19.10 and now on 20.04 is the same thing again. I use AMD 7850 graphics with drivers from inside Ubuntu
[10:36] <EriC^^> Ranc1d: try with 'ssh -vvv root@host' to see what's happening
[10:36] <thiras> hello what is the user equvilant of /usr/local/bin?
[10:36] <Ranc1d> thanks EriC^^ will do
[10:36] <EriC^^> thiras: ~/.local/bin ?
[10:36] <thiras> thanks
[10:37] <EriC^^> Ranc1d: no problem
[10:37] <EriC^^> thiras: no problem
[10:37] <Ranc1d> debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password, then PermissionDenied
[10:37] <Ranc1d> i am certain its the correct password
[10:37] <EriC^^> nikolam: are you starting vlc from the terminal?
[10:38] <EriC^^> Ranc1d: can you upload your sshd config to a pastebin?
[10:38] <EriC^^> Ranc1d: just remove the port from it, just in case
[10:38] <thiras> is there any equivalent of /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/ for a user like ~/.local/bin for /usr/local/bin?
[10:40] <EriC^^> thiras: there is a ~/.local/share dir if that helps?
[10:40] <Ranc1d> https://pastebin.com/vR0wsL18
[10:40] <thiras> i see. i'll give it a try thanks
[10:41] <nikolam> EriC^^, no, I start VLC jus with double-click on .mkv or other h264 video
[10:42] <nikolam> but I could and see the output
[10:43] <metbsd> ubuntu can only install with efi?
[10:43] <Ranc1d> EriC^^ i know its right password since i can use "su root" with that password
[10:43] <EriC^^> metbsd: no, also legacy/msdos
[10:43] <nikolam> https://pastebin.com/ny7U86e6
[10:45] <EriC^^> Ranc1d: that's the ssh client side config, what's in /etc/ssh/sshd_config on the server?
[10:46] <nikolam> When I start vlc from CLI, I can exit it with Ctrl+C
[10:46] <Ranc1d> EriC^^ you just solved the problem :)
[10:47] <Ranc1d> i was editing the client config when i should have edited the server conf
[10:47] <Ranc1d> haha
[10:47] <EriC^^> Ranc1d: ah great, yup it happens, very common
[10:47] <ne2k> anyone know of a simple way to get up-to-date ca-certificates on trusty? (please don't tell me it's ancient and out of support; I know, I'm making plans to upgrade, I'd just like to get something working briefly to plug a hole)
[10:49] <EriC^^> nikolam: literally just running 'vlc' in the terminal gives those output in it?
[10:49] <ne2k> the latest package depends on a version of openssl not available on trusty https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/ca-certificates
[10:50] <luc4> Hello! I’m looking for the debug symbols of xserver-xorg-core. It seems that the package xserver-xorg-core-dbg is not there in 20.04. Anyone who knows if I can find debug symbols somewhere else?
[10:50] <ne2k> ah, looks like the xenial one doesn't
[10:51] <nikolam> EriC^^, $ vlc
[10:51] <nikolam> VLC media player 3.0.9.2 Vetinari (revision 3.0.9.2-0-gd4c1aefe4d)
[10:51] <nikolam> [00005613ec85f5b0] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
[10:51] <nikolam> [00005613ec8f3280] main playlist: playlist is empty
[10:51] <nikolam> sorry for long paste, uh
[10:54] <adamczi> Hi everyone! I have a question about cloudimages. I noticed that Focal Fossa 20.04 server is distributed with a GUI by default. Why is that so? Is it a development-thing or it will remain like that?
[10:54] <adamczi> I'm using an official vagrant box, which is up to date (yesterday's build)
[10:54] <EriC^^> nikolam: no worries, according to the manpage it says environment variables, VLC_VERBOSE=3 should give debug info
[10:54] <EriC^^> nikolam: try setting that in the shell then run vlc
[10:56] <nikolam> I think it could be something with VDPAU , it defaults to it, when I select xvideo/x11 output it then exits fine, even spits out errors on CLI.
[10:56] <EriC^^> doesn't seem to do much for me though *shrug*
[10:56] <nikolam> ok, let me do that EriC^^
[10:57] <ne2k> adamczi server has a GUI?! you mean the installer is GUI based, or it actually installs a GUI by default? that would a U-turn from many years of how things have been done, not to mention completely INSANE
[10:57] <nikolam> EriC^^, this is just starting and stopping vlc : https://pastebin.com/bZ5WVFGG
[10:58] <adamczi> @ne2k - the server after importing the cloudimage has GUI enabled, as if it was a desktop version
[11:01] <nikolam> EriC^^, And this is VLC with automatic output (7850 graphics) while playing Video and then fails to exit (until Ctrl+C) https://pastebin.com/2CraBFjD
[11:05] <nikolam> EriC^^, And this is when XCB/Xvideo output is forced, vlc exits after playing: https://pastebin.com/bEKsDFxS
[11:05] <ne2k> adamczi, sorry, I missed the bit about cloudimage. I've never used that
[11:05] <jurajb0b0> Hi can somebody make me an recommendation how to install ubuntu20.04 on smallest disk. Currently there is no pressed/kickstart. Durring the install I want to skip all usb device as well. Is there any possibility to run an script during install phase to select disk candidate ?
[11:06] <adamczi> @ne2k sure, no problem
[11:06] <nikolam> My conclusion is that 7850/amdgpu and when VDPAU is used, have a problem with exiting vlc , I dunno if I am right.
[11:27] <EriC^^> nikolam: wish i could help, i really have no clue on media stuff, maybe upload the debug info to the devs? ps if you run 'xkill' it might be easier to kill it when you need to
[11:28] <zmagii> Does gzip compression in Firefox on Ubuntu (I'm on Xubuntu) work differently than other OSs?
[11:29] <zmagii> I'm trying to open a web app, but it asks to download a gzip file, which the browser is supposed to unzip and display the page.
[11:29] <zmagii> It works on Firefox on macOS...
[11:30] <nikolam> EriC^^, it closes the window, but leaves the process, that can only be killed with -9
[11:30] <EriC^^> ah
[11:31] <EriC^^> zmagii: what happens on ubuntu? maybe there's an option with what to open the file (archive manager) or something?
[11:42] <zmagii> It shows a popup "You have chosen to open..." and then "...which is a gzip file" and then asks for you to choose the program
[11:42] <zmagii> EriC^^
[11:46] <EriC^^> zmagii: maybe related? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/35406474/gzipped-javascript-wont-work-on-firefox-on-ubuntu-centos
[11:47] <EriC^^> zmagii: does the file/app have a .gz extension?
[11:49] <zmagii> EriC^^: Let me check
[11:50] <thiras> hello again. there was some env vars to force ubuntu 20.04 to pick nvidia gpu instead of intel. I've found them in stackexchange answer but cannot find them anymore. They were like __NVblablabla
[11:50] <thiras> anyone remember those vars?
[11:51] <zmagii> EriC^^: I can't see that there are any .gz extensions
[11:51] <thiras> ah found it; https://askubuntu.com/a/1240082/587720
[11:56] <zmagii> EriC^^: What seems to fix it is to use other middleware. I am still not sure why this happens.
[11:57] <EriC^^> aha, same here
[12:10] <Severs> anyone around whos good with networking issues?
[12:12] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:12] <Severs> morning
[12:13] <quadrathoch2> Severs, just ask, somebody may answer
[12:14] <Severs> im having issues getting hexchat and thunderbird to connect properly, thunderbird is taking 3 to 5 minutes to pull new messages, and hexchat wont connect at all
[12:14] <Severs> im currently here via the kiwi browser chat
[12:15] <Severs> sadly networking is something i never got the hang of
[12:16] <quadrathoch2> Severs, do you have a firewall active?
[12:17] <Severs> not on my PC, and i disabled the xfi advanced security that comcrap put on me
[12:17] <quadrathoch2> what is the xfi advanced security? sorry i am not from the US
[12:17] <Severs> i do think its something do to with the new router they made me install though
[12:18] <Severs> its some thing theyve added on to "protect" customers that tend to block file sharing applications
[12:19] <quadrathoch2> ahh kk. I mean it really sounds like there are issues with something port wise, which means normally firewall or router
[12:19] <Severs> yeah im not sure what's going on because i even set this thing into DMZ mode to open everything, and hexchat still wont open any networks
[12:19] <thiras> i have fresh install ubuntu 20.04 and i couldn't find .local/bin at my path
[12:20] <thiras> has it changed recently?
[12:21] <quadrathoch2> thiras, I think, it's not created before you mkdir it yourself ;)
[12:21] <thiras> oh that might be the reason
[12:21] <thiras> because i've found relevant .local/bin lines at my .profile
[12:21] <thiras> so that must the reason
[12:22] <thiras> thanks. i'll create it and give it a try
[12:23] <quadrathoch2> Severs, any other services that don't work?
[12:23] <Severs> not that i know of
[12:23] <quadrathoch2> eh I meant, trying it out if it works
[12:25] <Severs> i finally got ahold of one of comcast's agents, gonna see if they can fix it
[12:34] <severs_> well i got hexchat to connect finally
[12:34] <zmagii> I have another question, how does one configure fswatch on Ubuntu?
[12:59] <MBoard> hi all, I am attempting to install ubuntu 18.04 Desktop.  I have 3 SSD drives and an external HDD in a dock.  Is it possible to set these hard drives so that the 3 internal SSD drives are 1 partition and the remote HDD is a system drive as well so all users can access it?
[13:00] <quadrathoch2> MBoard, yes, but you have to be more specific about how you want to setup your 3 internal ones
[13:01] <MBoard> quadrathoch2, the 3 internal drives I just want a simple 1 storage device.  256GB + 256GB + 512GB as 1TB on the system
[13:01] <MBoard> not sure what specifics are needed?
[13:02] <quadrathoch2> MBoard, well with that setup you know when 1 drive 'explodes' that you don't have any data anymore?
[13:02] <MBoard> yes, this is why I have the other drive in the dock
[13:02] <MBoard> I want that drive to basically mirror the 3 internal drives
[13:02] <quadrathoch2> MBoard, okay, just wanted to make sure
[13:03] <MBoard> ok
[13:06] <quadrathoch2> MBoard, well first you would need to create a raid0 spanning all 3 disks, after that you can create your normal partitions. ping me if you need help with that
[13:06] <tortal> why how does WSL handle inode and windows folders really? I successfully rm -rf a content of directory (which had files in use). But the folder remained.....
[13:23] <zmagii> OK, so finally I can ask a better question. On macOS, if I use fswatch, then --exclude ".*" binds less strongly than --include. However, on Ubuntu (Xubuntu 20.04) it seems like --exclude ".*" stops everything. In other words, fswatch just excludes everything in the folder.
[13:23] <zmagii> My question is: How do I include just a few files in fswatch and exclude the rest? If I throw away --exclude, then it still picks up too many events.
[13:24] <zmagii> The idea is that it only picks up development files and then knows to refresh.
[13:49] <zamba> how do i stop the discord snap?
[13:49] <zamba> i've attempted snap stop discord and then i get back that discord has no service
[13:49] <zamba> i've also tried stopping snap altogether, with systemctl stop snapd, but to no avail
[13:53] <Munsko> what about kill the process in task manager?
[13:53] <Munsko> or you mean ust the service
[13:53] <Munsko> just*
[13:53] <xbfrog> are you wanting to disable or uninstall?
[13:53] <zamba> stop it
[13:54] <zamba> windows is more stable than linux (ubuntu) these days
[13:54] <zamba> now gnome just crashed on me
[13:55] <Munsko> lol
[13:55] <alazred> zamba: as Munsko said just kill the process
[13:55] <Munsko> you could use discord in firefox browser
[13:55] <Munsko> and skip all those troubles
[13:55] <zamba> i just get the desktop background and nothing else.. if i switch the viewport i get prompted for my password, as if i want to log in
[13:55] <zamba> but afterwards nothing happens
[13:56] <Munsko> try restart
[13:56] <zamba> ... d'oh
[13:56] <leftyfb> zamba: sudo killall discord
[13:56] <zamba> it's a reason i'm running linux
[13:56] <Munsko> discord?
[13:56] <jhass> Does the ARM ISO image not support kickstart or did I just not find the magic virt-install invocation yet?
[13:56] <zamba> Munsko: well, the X session was still completely br0ken
[13:57] <leftyfb> zamba: the issue is, discord has been configured to hide itself instead of close and probably hasn't been updated to properly show it's indicator when hidden.
[13:57] <zamba> and what has happened to the good old ctrl+alt+f1 to get to console?
[13:57] <Munsko> looks like you have some broken things there
[13:57] <leftyfb> zamba: 1 problem at a time.
[13:59] <zamba> i have rebooted now, so all the other problems are now "gone"
[14:02] <Munsko> discord still on?
[14:26] <xyha> exit
[14:46] <rangergord> why is "apt update" on my 64-bit system pulling 32-bit package lists? "Get:5 http://mirror.it.ubc.ca/ubuntu bionic-updates/main i386 Packages [694 kB]
[14:46] <rangergord> "  (it also pulled amd64 beforehand, just curious why it does both)
[14:58] <mason> rangergord: dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[14:59] <rangergord> says i386...is that a default? I don't recall adding this. It's a fresh server install.
[15:00] <rangergord> i did install xubuntu-core yesterday
[15:00] <mason> rangergord: If you have something like Steam or Wine, it might add that.
[15:00] <mason> s/might/will/
[15:01] <rangergord> just checked my history, only packages I installed were xfce4, then xubuntu-core. Must have been one of them, if it's not a default
[15:02] <mason> Doesn't seem to be a default. A couple new boxes I installed yesterday don't have it.
[15:02] <mason> That said, looking at what i386 packages you have installed might shed some light on what wanted it.
[15:03] <mason> dpkg -l *:i386 seems like valid syntax
[15:05] <rangergord> no packages matching that
[15:06] <rangergord> but dkpg -l | grep 386 shows libc6-i386
[15:06] <mason> rangergord: Notable thing about that is that it's not an i386-architecture package. :)
[15:07] <rangergord> "ii  libc6-i386                            2.27-3ubuntu1                                    amd64        GNU C Library: 32-bit shared libraries for AMD64
[15:07] <rangergord> "  you're right
[15:08] <mason> Hm, you know, it could be a default actually. I just realized the two test systems I queried here were built up from scratch with debootstrap. A normal installer-derived install might have i386 there by default.
[15:08] <rangergord> oh well
[15:11] <mason> rangergord: PM?
[15:11] <mason> (Just curious if your nick comes from the Gygax character.)
[15:12] <ioria> rangergord, multiarch-support is installed by default afaik
[15:16] <devslash> I had a problem yesterday (which I've already fixed). I log into my ubuntu server over SSH using a pub key. Yesterday, when I did sudo -i when I pasted my users' password, it suddenly started saying that the password is not correct. I was able to reset it. What could cause your password to stop working ? Should I be worried about a breach/hack ?
[15:20] <tortal> did you enter your private key pwd ?
[15:21] <murthy> Is the icecast2 package compiled with ssl support in 20.04?
[16:02] <jurajb0b0> I want to install ubuntu 20.04 from cdrom without asking questions. I try to use in boot kernel line: append initrd.... autoinstall  ds=nocloud-net;s=file:///autoinstall-user-data and I have as well try ds=nocloud-net;s=file:///cdrom/autoinstall-user-data . is there any way how to force ubuntu to install base on autoinstall-user-data.   Thx
[16:11] <ingmalin> Hey guys, I want to install the Ubuntu 18.04 mini.iso for an old laptop I have.Should I download the mini.iso from bionic or bionic-updates and what's the difference between
[16:11] <ingmalin> them?http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.isohttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-updates/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[16:17] <jurajb0b0> @ingmalin: I would probably look on the has of the file and if they are not ~ then compare package version. probably deb-changelog etc ... . But maybe you get more proper answer from somebody which deals more with ubuntu :) then myself
[16:44] <jurajb0b0> :-D Maybe stupid question, but I have really think that #ubuntu is for discussion and a little support. But so far the people are coming and going and no discussion at all. Productive and unproductive ")
[16:50] <oerheks> jurajb0b0, there is #ubuntu-discuss too
[17:06] <CoDeAmRo> hey guys i have a question
[17:07] <BluesKaj> CoDeAmRo, ask away
[17:10] <CoDeAmRo> i am ubuntu user for many years and i love it is there an app that i can watch tv channels
[17:13] <Antoine-> Hello, would you guys know how long it usually takes between when a new version of Blender is realeased and when it is available in the repositories?
[17:15] <makara> this new default mouse/touchpad behaviour is weird. Why invert vertical scrolling but leave the horizontal?
[17:15] <makara> what real world physics is this trying to mimic?
[17:18] <BluesKaj> CoDeAmRo, just use the m3u playlist titles like fluxus or ccloud for example and load it in VLC>Media>Open network stream ...this one works well on for me, https://pastebin.com/raw/ZzGTySZE
[17:18] <Jordan_U> Antoine-: Unless Blender starts shipping in snaps, then the usual answer is "definitely not before the next version of Ubuntu is released".
[17:18] <BluesKaj> on vlc that is
[17:19] <Antoine-> Jordan_U: Next version as in 20.10?
[17:19] <Antoine-> There is a snap: https://snapcraft.io/blender
[17:24] <luc4> Hello! Anyone who knows what package is providing debug symbols for xserver in 20.04?
[17:24] <Jordan_U> Andrio: Correct. Most packages don't get major version upgrades (as opposed to bug / security fixes) within a given release of Ubuntu. If you want newer major releases of any apps then you generally need to install from a snap or a ppa.
[17:29] <Antoine-> Jordan_U: Ok thanks
[17:33] <rajivmars> is it safe to use dconf-editor to modify some changes in 20.04?
[18:31] <SunOS> i have a 100 000 jpeg file in dir, but how can i move the to another dir
[18:31] <SunOS> i try with mv dir/*.jpg source but gives me a error
[18:31] <abtm_> where is the other dir?
[18:32] <SunOS> on the same mashine
[18:33] <quadrathoch2> SunOS, where is the target? because you only specified which files mv should move
[18:34] <SunOS> quadrathoch2, i have a folder 06/
[18:34] <abtm_> try cp -r <source dir> <destination>
[18:35] <SunOS> Argument list too long
[18:35] <quadrathoch2> SunOS, could you give us the full command?
[18:36] <abtm_> also are there spaces in the directory name/path?
[18:36] <SunOS> mv  05/*.jpg  06/
[18:36] <abtm_> you want to move not copy?
[18:37] <SunOS> yeah
[18:37] <SunOS> i  to move the from folder 05 to 06
[18:38] <Jordan_U> SunOS: Here's a high level view of the problem. If you'd like more help applying it to your situation I'm happy to: https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/095
[19:10] <EriC^^> SunOS: find ./05 -name '*.jpg' -exec mv {} 06/ +
[19:10] <SunOS> EriC^^, 10x
[19:11] <EriC^^> np
[19:12] <EriC^^> SunOS: actually add "-maxdepth 1" if there are subdirs in 05 so it doesnt go into them
[19:17] <stroll> Hi
[19:25] <Zewwy> Hello, trying Ubuntu LiveCD 20.04, got connected to my guest network, internet works just fine
[19:25] <Zewwy> but apt-get install dislocker
[19:25] <Zewwy> says no app of name dislocker found
[19:25] <Zewwy> what I miss?
[19:26] <ioria> universe
[19:27] <ioria> Zewwy, i mean, do you have universe enabled ?
[19:27] <climbpg> are you guys on ubuntu 20.04 lts?
[19:27] <Zewwy> Sorry i don't know what "having universe enabvled" means, I just grabbed Ubuntu Desktop 20.04, ran it, connected network, did apt-get update, worked just fine, then wanted to install dislocker
[19:28] <ioria> Zewwy,  apt-cache policy dislocker
[19:28] <quadrathoch2> climbpg, probably not all of us, but probably most
[19:28] <Zewwy> unable to locate package dislocker
[19:29] <ioria> !info dislocker focal
[19:29] <climbpg> by the way I'm kinda new to using IRC, how do you exit the server and rejoin (log in) later on?
[19:29] <climbpg> exit channel*
[19:29] <quadrathoch2> climbpg, you can just close the window, then you are disconnected. just join later on again the way you did right now
[19:29] <Zewwy>  you can use "/wc" as far as I know to leave a channel
[19:30] <ioria> Zewwy,  ^ you can see that the pkg is in the focal universe repo
[19:30] <climbpg> will I not be able to see the messages that was said while I was gone?
[19:30] <leftyfb> !universe | Zewwy
[19:30] <Zewwy> if you want to leave but retain old messages use something like screen?
[19:30] <climbpg> what do you mean by "screen"?
[19:31] <climbpg> If I rejoin later on, do I miss all the messages that was being sent while I was gone?
[19:31] <Kam> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bdJsKfvgNb/
[19:31] <Zewwy> ok, thanks maybe you could help me a bit more direct? which repos do I need, why can't it just be as simple as "apt-get install diislocker"?
[19:31] <quadrathoch2> climbpg, yes
[19:31] <Kam> I'm having trouble fixing broken packages
[19:31] <Zewwy> I have to manually add the "universe focal repo"?
[19:32] <leftyfb> Zewwy: yes
[19:32] <Zewwy> what a nice delight
[19:32] <leftyfb> Zewwy: can I ask, why are you doing this on a liveCD?
[19:32] <climbpg> oh wait. not being able to see messages while logged off sucks...??
[19:33] <Zewwy> I want to just recover a few simple files behind a bitlockered drive, it shouldn't be that hard
[19:33] <Zewwy> but sure enough... it is
[19:33] <Zewwy> climbpg: Use tmux/screen
[19:33] <leftyfb> Zewwy: the liveCD is meant to be an installer first and an option to try out some of the basic features of ubuntu second.
[19:34] <Zewwy> and why not boot a live Linux so i can read teh required HDD on a special controller it is M.2 NVMe
[19:34] <Zewwy> I don't exactly have a USB based NVMe reader, I have my reasons
[19:34] <Zewwy> thanks for critzing
[19:34] <ioria> Kam, sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cuda-repo-ubuntu1804-11-0-local/./libnvidia-compute-450_450.36.06-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[19:35] <leftyfb> Zewwy: there's no need for an attitude. Good luck recovering your data
[19:35] <Zewwy> Ferdora live it was as easy as "yum install dislocker" the problem was it was a buggy version I figured I'd try Ubunttu in hopes it was more stable
[19:35] <Zewwy> I didn't expect to jump through additional repo adding hoops
[19:35] <Kam> ioria, Thanks so much!!
[19:35] <Zewwy> ioria: Indeed thanks
[19:36] <ioria> Kam, no prob Zewwy  both
[19:43] <tommy``> i'm sending a file through my network with scp but seems really slow (3mb/s) there is a way to increase speed?
[19:45] <quadrathoch2> tommy``, are you sure it's not a network issue?
[19:46] <Zewwy> Click MultiDots on Desktop bottom Left -> Type "Software" Click Software & Updates (No longer Software Center) -> Under Software Source check the one checbox for the Universe Repo. apt-get install dislocker worked without issue
[19:46] <Zewwy> Thanks Zewwy, no problem buddy
[19:47] <tommy``> yes no problem with network, the command i use is: scp file user@host:"path/of/file"
[19:49] <ELFrederich> So I'm on a new install of 20.04 and in gimp I don't see "Heal Selection" any more under Filters -> Enhance.
[19:51] <Zewwy> ELFrederich: Version difference from another Gimp you used?
[19:52] <ELFrederich> Zewwy: I was coming from Linux Mint 19.3 which was based on Ubuntu 18.04 and has gimp 2.8
[19:53] <ELFrederich> But it seems Heal Selection should still be under Filters -> Enhance when I look for "Heal Selection gimp 2.10" on Google
[19:53] <ELFrederich> Also, the liquid rescale plugins aren't working but at least I get an error message about that when starting gimp from command line.
[19:54] <sarnold> tommy``: wow that sounds really slow; finding the cause may not be fun.. you could try running nstat a few times on both machines, and see if there are error counts that are growing..
[19:54] <Zewwy> Not sure, figured maybe you could install the same partiuclar version of Gimp you knew it was working on, else I'd think its a seperate plugin?
[19:58] <tommy``> sarnold: i'm trying with sftp now and it's 5mb/s
[19:58] <tommy``> still too slow
[19:59] <tommy``> also nstat not present on the box
[20:00] <Zewwy> Could be multiple factors, if you are using USB controllers, the FileSystem in which the file is on, and the detination, could be CPU bottle necked, use top/htop to check CPU usage while the transfer is going
[20:01] <tommy``> no im sftp-ing a file from my pc to an android box with kodi installed. that box is connected to the router through wifi
[20:01] <Zewwy> I'm also assuming a sequential single large file transfer
[20:02] <Zewwy> could be wirelss interfierence
[20:02] <sarnold> tommy``: try ifconfig then?
[20:02] <tommy``> Zewwy: yes file is around 2gB
[20:02] <sarnold> iwconfig, too, perhaps you've got terrible connection..
[20:02] <Zewwy> if the Kodi box has a eth port, at least can rule out wireless
[20:03] <Zewwy> cut out possible causes one b y one till you filter out the root cause
[20:03] <tommy``> yes it has eth
[20:03] <tommy``> let'see if i have a cable
[20:10] <stevessss> I have a nice amp and spekaers on my linux desktop and everyone in familly has a bluetooth enabled phone.. is there a way I can use software tomake my ubuntu desktop pretend to be a bluetooth headset so I can make calls and listen to my phones music collection using my desktops mic+speakers?
[20:10] <stevessss> (every page I found on linux bluetooth headset is how to connect to a pre-made headset, not how to turn your linux desktop into a headset)
[20:12] <climbpg> Hello
[20:13] <stevessss> https://www.ostechnix.com/turn-your-linux-pc-into-bluetooth-speakers-for-your-phone/
[20:14] <tommy``> Zewwy: with eth sftp send i got 10mb/s
[20:15] <tiox> Hey. Just wanted to ask something for all of the OEMs and business peoples here — Does Ubuntu cost to ship with a system?
[20:15] <tommy``> down to 7mb/s
[20:15] <tommy``> bettter than wifi but slow
[20:16] <tiox> I know it's free for personal use, but for establishments who are performing installations on systems and shipping with Ubuntu pre-supplied, ala Microsoft Windows does that cost per-system or similarly to a volume license key?
[20:17] <quadrathoch2> tiox, I think that's a question for canonical directly. but imho it should be free (no guarantee)
[20:17] <tomreyn> !discuss | tiox
[20:19] <Zewwy> tommy``: and all your switches and ports are higher than 10/100 at 1gbps?
[20:20] <tommy``> Zewwy how i can check?
[20:21] <Zewwy> it's your equipment, you should know? :P I can't tell how to verify that for each piece in your network stack
[20:22] <tommy``> mmh wait a sec, Zewwy, when i'm doing sftp i upload file in an hdd connected to the device with kodi through usb
[20:24] <tommy``> that's my eth 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller according lshw
[20:27] <climbpg> How can I take a screen shot on ubuntu?
[20:27] <rud0lf> PrintScreen key usually
[20:30] <climbpg> thanks
[20:44] <reallymemorable> i snap installed mailspring
[20:44] <reallymemorable> but I dont know how to start
[20:45] <MisterT> Hey Guys :) whats the best way to contact a repo maintainer ? Using one package causing segfaults on ubuntu 20.04 with current package version - the newer version fixed that on 12/2019 but its still not on ubuntu repos :(
[20:48] <quadrathoch2> MisterT, probably report a bug to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu for that package.
[20:48] <reallymemorable> I managed to run it with /snap/bin/mailspring
[20:48] <ikonia> how do you know the segfault is down to the version
[20:48] <reallymemorable> but is it really the case that you cannot access it from the GUI?
[20:49] <MisterT> quadrathoch2 ty :)
[20:51] <MisterT> ikonia coz I found it on devs project page ;) segfaults caused by umount.davfs  - See line 4-6 and thats the reason: http://cvs.savannah.nongnu.org/viewvc/davfs2/davfs2/ChangeLog?revision=1.156&view=markup&pathrev=MAIN
[20:52] <MisterT> on ubuntu its 1.5.5-1 from davfs2
[20:55] <reallymemorable> is it really the case that you can only run programs from the CLI if they are installed via snap?
[20:56] <quadrathoch2> reallymemorable, no, it really depends on what you install
[20:56] <reallymemorable> mailspring
[20:56] <reallymemorable> its surprising that it doesnt end up in the GUI
[20:56] <quadrathoch2> reallymemorable, normally a shortcut should be created in your menu, weird
[20:57] <reallymemorable> I cant even search for it from the start menu
[20:57] <quadrathoch2> reallymemorable, can you start the program with mailspring in cli?
[20:58] <reallymemorable> yes
[20:58] <reallymemorable> the GUI boots from the CLI
[20:58] <quadrathoch2> okay at least the path is workign
[21:03] <reallymemorable> Is there another way to install it?
[21:03] <reallymemorable> or some way to resolve this?
[21:05] <oerheks> mailspring should make a starter in your software menu.
[21:06] <reallymemorable> it does not
[21:06] <oerheks> and it is Proprietary stuff, contact the maintainer :-P
[21:07] <reallymemorable> what mail client do you guys use
[21:07] <reallymemorable> mailspring looks so beautiful
[21:08] <sarnold> if this is the first snap you've installed, you may need to restart or reboot or similar before getting icons
[21:08] <reallymemorable> ok
[21:08] <reallymemorable> brb :P
[21:09] <oerheks> no need to reboot.. is he running mint or something?
[21:10] <ubuntutr> hi
[21:10] <Paul_65536> Hi.  Are there any reports of boot problems after the kernel updates today?
[21:11] <oerheks> 'any reports'?? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/focal/+bugs
[21:11] <oerheks> no idea, what is your issue?
[21:13] <Paul_65536> I have a laptop with secure boot and an encrypted hard drive.  I applied the updates as normal and rebooted.  Now it just sits at the "loading into ram" stage and never progresses.  Selecting the older kernel does the same.
[21:16] <Paul_65536> I've booked from a live USB and I can mount the partitions fine.  Check all show fine too.
[21:17] <tomreyn> Paul_65536: boot with !kernelparm dis_ucode_ldr and, if it helps, file a !bug report against intel-microcode
[21:17] <ubuntutr> anybody from usa ?
[21:17] <tomreyn> !chat | ubuntutr
[21:17] <joshh> i rebooted for the new kernel earlier but not the  microcode yet
[21:17] <tomreyn> !kernelparm | Paul_65536
[21:17] <tomreyn> !bug | Paul_65536
[21:18] <Paul_65536> OK, thanks tomreyn.  What does that parameter do?
[21:18] <pjs>  /7
[21:18] <tomreyn> Paul_65536: disable the code which loads cpu microcode updates during early boot.
[21:19] <oerheks> we did have a intel-microcode and kernel update recently, indeed
[21:19] <tomreyn> Paul_65536: my working theory here is that the latest intel microcode update you installed does not work for your computer
[21:20] <littlebit> hi people, I have installed ubuntu server os and along with it nextcloud. It is my first time that I'm using ubuntu server, and wanted to know where the logs for the webserver is located??
[21:20] <Paul_65536> With !kernelparm dis_ucode_ldr, it now boots.  A few errors flashed by, I'll see if I can retrieve them.
[21:21] <joshh> Paul_65536: what cpu/etc?
[21:21] <Paul_65536> My CPI is an i5-6200U
[21:22] <tomreyn> Paul_65536: once booted, please post the output of     journalctl -b | grep DMI:     and file the bug report (ubuntu-bug intel-microcode)
[21:23] <Paul_65536> OK, thanks again.  Post the output here or in the bug?
[21:23] <joshh> both
[21:23] <joshh> or at least paste the bug here, im curious
[21:23] <tomreyn> here, if you don't mind, it should be just a single line
[21:23] <tomreyn> it will be in the bug report anyways
[21:24] <Paul_65536> Jun 10 22:19:56 padfoot kernel: DMI: LENOVO 20F6CT01WW/20F6CT01WW, BIOS R02ET71W (1.44 ) 05/08/2019
[21:25] <joshh> i just rebooted a i5-8600 with the new microcode
[21:26] <tomreyn> Paul_65536: there are "critical" bios updates for this system: https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/thinkpad-x-series-laptops/thinkpad-x260/downloads/driver-list/component?name=BIOS%2FUEFI
[21:26] <Paul_65536> Interesting, I have a micrcode update to install now.
[21:26] <sarnold> hold off
[21:27] <sarnold> there were problems with intel's update, one of the cpu classes doesn't do well with the new microcode
[21:27] <sarnold> we're in the process of publishing something to revert the fix for that family
[21:28] <tomreyn> Paul_65536: ^
[21:30] <tomreyn> Paul_65536: doing the bios update should be safe (at least regarding this recent microcode update flaw) since it clearly predates it.
[21:31] <tomreyn> (and hasn't been pulled since)
[21:31] <sarnold> maaaaybe; intel gives hardware vendors microcode before they give it to us..
[21:32] <sarnold> and we didn't notice this problem in our tests, it's possible the hardware vendors didn't notice it either
[21:32] <joshh> sarnold: what cpu class?
[21:33] <Paul_65536> So the new intel-microcode update I have now that I can boot, is that the reverted version?
[21:33] <tomreyn> latest bios update is from february
[21:34] <tomreyn> Paul_65536: maybe what really happened is that you only installed the kernel update last time, or the kernel update and an old microcode update, and the latest microcode update you only installed now? hard to tell unless you can provide version numbers.
[21:35] <tomreyn> see /var/log/apt/history.log and term.log
[21:35] <Paul_65536> Hmm, fwupdmngr says I have the latest updates
[21:35] <sarnold> joshh: iucode-tool -S  0x000406e3
[21:36] <tomreyn> Paul_65536: you have the latest that is available via fwupd
[21:36] <Paul_65536> apt show intel-microcode gives 3.20200609.0ubuntu0.20.04.1
[21:37] <tomreyn> the relevant thing to find out is what kernel package version and intel-microcode version you were running when you were unable to boot
[21:38] <Paul_65536> Linux padfoot 5.4.0-37-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 3 18:57:02 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:40] <sarnold> if you're having troubles booting due to the microcode loading, add kernel parameter dis_ucode_ldr to the grub kernel boot line
[21:40] <Paul_65536> I have not update anything since I was unable to boot.  I'm booted now with the  !kernelparm dis_ucode_ldr
[21:40] <tomreyn> i understand that Paul_65536 IS asble to boot fine with all the latest package updates installed (and without dis_ucode_ldr)
 So the new intel-microcode update I have now that I can boot, is that the reverted version?
[21:41] <tomreyn> Paul_65536: can you confirm this?
[21:43] <tomreyn> [ ] with all the latest updates installed, i can boot fine without having to use the dis_ucode_ldr boot parameter
[21:43] <tomreyn> ^ please tick if it applies
[21:43] <sarnold> 3.20200609.0ubuntu0.20.04.1 reverted the bad microcode for processors in the 0x000406e3 family -- 3.20200609.0ubuntu0.20.04.2 has another fix to disable late-microcode-loading but no further microcode updates
[21:43] <Paul_65536> Currently, I have booted with " !kernelparm dis_ucode_ldr" added in grub.  Without that I cannot boot.  I have not installed anything since.  My kernel is 5.4.0-37-generic  and my microcode is 3.20200609.0ubuntu0.20.04.1.  I have a pending update for the microcode.
[21:44] <tomreyn> so i misinterpreted you, thanks.
[21:44] <sarnold> Paul_65536: install that .2 update, try again... keep that dis_ucode_ldr thing handy in case it still fails.. if it fails to boot again, please do report back
[21:45] <Paul_65536> OK, thanks.  Its a different machine so I'll still be here....
[21:45] <sarnold> ah good
[21:46] <sarnold> I'm not sure intel realized just how important it is for these things to be *perfect* ... when they go wrong, it takes a lot of effort to bring a machine back online :(
[21:46] <sarnold> this keeps happening
[21:46] <joshh> does the lts/stable get all microcode updates or just security and bugs?
[21:47] <sarnold> we publish whatever blobs intel give us -- historically they've done a very poor job of saying what they changed in the microcodes, but now they're at least saying roughly what the updates do..
[21:47] <tomreyn> it's be a lot less of an end user support effort if someone implemented bug 1831789
[21:48] <sarnold> thanks tomreyn
[21:50] <Paul_65536> OK, I installed the microcode update and rebooted as normal, without "kernelparm dis_ucode_ldr" added to grub.  The machine booted fine.
[21:50] <tomreyn> Thanks Jeroen, i think he came up with the idea.
[21:51] <tomreyn> Paul_65536: good to hear that rolling it back solved it for you.
[21:52] <Paul_65536> Yes, thank you very much for the help.  As this is a known issues and a fix has been released already (amazingly), I guess there is no need to file a bug?
[21:53] <tomreyn> joshh: i don't think there are non-security non-bug microcode updates.
[21:53] <joshh> ok
[21:53] <sarnold> Paul_65536: yeah, if you're back up and running with a new package, then it's probably all good :)
[21:53] <sarnold> Paul_65536: thanks for reporting back; I'm sorry for the trouble
[21:54] <oerheks> :-)
[21:54] <Paul_65536> Absolutely no need to be me sorry, I'm really grateful or the help!
[21:56] <Paul_65536> The good thing is I finally registered on IRC:)
[21:57] <tomreyn> now's a good time to also install an actual irc client
[21:58] <Paul_65536> Yes, I'll look see what's available now.  Its been a while.
[21:59] <joshh> nothing new
[21:59] <joshh> just use irssi
[22:26] <xyha> exit