EickmeyerOvenWerks: A while back, you mentioned GNOME Terminal being unable to run processes in real-time?15:24
OvenWerksEickmeyer: I don't remember 15:36
OvenWerksI remember that some people have had trouble getting RT with "ubunutu"15:37
EickmeyerOk, well, the GNOME devs, with my Fedora Jam role, are wondering about that. 15:38
EickmeyerThey want to work with me on improving GNOME for RT audio, including pipewire and what-not.15:39
OvenWerksEickmeyer: all I can do is point at the Ardour thread on problems... let me see if I can find it (them?)16:16
EickmeyerOvenWerks: Ok, awesome.16:17
OvenWerksEickmeyer: by the way there has been some activity with jack_mixer in the past months. The changes here: https://github.com/dsheeler/jack_mixer are slowly making there way into upstream. The parts upstreamed do not yet include the python3 bits but those are under consideration by upstream over the past week.16:19
OvenWerksOh, and of course the upstream for jack_mixer has changed too.16:31
OvenWerksbut my guess is that the packaging will end up starting from scratch as jack_mixer has been dropped in debian too.18:18
EickmeyerOvenWerks: RE: Jack Mixer, yep.18:24
EickmeyerOvenWerks: RE: that Ardour thread: I'm facepalming through the whole thing. This is exactly WHY Ubuntu Studio (and installer) exists, but apparently is ignored by the Ardour community???? 😡18:26
OvenWerksSo it appears to be installation trouble then., OK18:27
EickmeyerShould we add cgred and cgconfig though?18:27
OvenWerksI don't know18:27
EickmeyerI mean, one person: "Installing linux-lowlatency solved the problem." *facepalm*18:27
OvenWerksI don't understand cgroups well enough to know.18:28
EickmeyerHere's the thing: Installing Ubuntu (or Xubuntu as one person did) doesn't install our defaults *unless* they use -installer after the fact. It's just frustrating to see a thread like that when the solution is right under their noses.18:29
OvenWerksI do have some work I need to do on Ardour though. Two bugs and one feature that is part done. So between that and the few controls bits I feel need to be finished by FF... I'm not ready to study on it18:29
OvenWerks(it neing cgroups)18:30
EickmeyerYeah. ugh...18:30
OvenWerksubuntustudio is just now regaining credibility... one step at a time18:32
EickmeyerSo, how did it lose credibility? Was it when it almost died?18:33
OvenWerksand maybe two years before that too18:34
EickmeyerOk. Well, we're on the right track. I see holstein singing our praises constantly, so there's that, and that speaks volumes.18:34
OvenWerksA stick in the mud :) but a nice guy otherwise18:35
EickmeyerI just wish we could get Filipe back on the team rather than fragmenting into KXStudio.18:36
OvenWerksThe one thing I do miss is that he uses a FW device and makes a good tester18:39
OvenWerksFilipe is splitting Catia off of Cadence so it would be good to have that.18:40
OvenWerksI do not think he is able to work within the debian/ubuntu world and do what he wants to do.18:41
OvenWerkshe distributes binary blobs18:42
EickmeyerHe does, and he doesn't. I think the only binary blob he distributed was waf, but there's other things that I have to skip over in the plugins area.18:43
OvenWerksArdour is a binary too18:43
OvenWerksnot from src18:44
OvenWerksthis means it includes the gtk2 patches ardour uses18:44
EickmeyerPeople have complained about how slow his build is to launch compared to ours and/or Ardour's binary.18:47
OvenWerkswierd, it is Ardour's binary18:50
OvenWerksI don't know if he installs it on opt though18:50
EickmeyerI don't know either.18:51

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