| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: A while back, you mentioned GNOME Terminal being unable to run processes in real-time? | 15:24 |
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| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: I don't remember | 15:36 |
| OvenWerks | I remember that some people have had trouble getting RT with "ubunutu" | 15:37 |
| Eickmeyer | Ok, well, the GNOME devs, with my Fedora Jam role, are wondering about that. | 15:38 |
| Eickmeyer | They want to work with me on improving GNOME for RT audio, including pipewire and what-not. | 15:39 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: all I can do is point at the Ardour thread on problems... let me see if I can find it (them?) | 16:16 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: Ok, awesome. | 16:17 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: by the way there has been some activity with jack_mixer in the past months. The changes here: https://github.com/dsheeler/jack_mixer are slowly making there way into upstream. The parts upstreamed do not yet include the python3 bits but those are under consideration by upstream over the past week. | 16:19 |
| OvenWerks | https://discourse.ardour.org/t/anyone-encountering-rt-jack-issues-after-upgrading-to-ubuntu-20-04-lts/103477 | 16:23 |
| OvenWerks | Oh, and of course the upstream for jack_mixer has changed too. | 16:31 |
| OvenWerks | but my guess is that the packaging will end up starting from scratch as jack_mixer has been dropped in debian too. | 18:18 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: RE: Jack Mixer, yep. | 18:24 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: RE: that Ardour thread: I'm facepalming through the whole thing. This is exactly WHY Ubuntu Studio (and installer) exists, but apparently is ignored by the Ardour community???? 😡 | 18:26 |
| OvenWerks | So it appears to be installation trouble then., OK | 18:27 |
| Eickmeyer | Should we add cgred and cgconfig though? | 18:27 |
| OvenWerks | I don't know | 18:27 |
| Eickmeyer | I mean, one person: "Installing linux-lowlatency solved the problem." *facepalm* | 18:27 |
| OvenWerks | I don't understand cgroups well enough to know. | 18:28 |
| Eickmeyer | Here's the thing: Installing Ubuntu (or Xubuntu as one person did) doesn't install our defaults *unless* they use -installer after the fact. It's just frustrating to see a thread like that when the solution is right under their noses. | 18:29 |
| OvenWerks | I do have some work I need to do on Ardour though. Two bugs and one feature that is part done. So between that and the few controls bits I feel need to be finished by FF... I'm not ready to study on it | 18:29 |
| OvenWerks | (it neing cgroups) | 18:30 |
| Eickmeyer | Yeah. ugh... | 18:30 |
| OvenWerks | ubuntustudio is just now regaining credibility... one step at a time | 18:32 |
| Eickmeyer | So, how did it lose credibility? Was it when it almost died? | 18:33 |
| OvenWerks | yes | 18:33 |
| OvenWerks | and maybe two years before that too | 18:34 |
| Eickmeyer | Ok. Well, we're on the right track. I see holstein singing our praises constantly, so there's that, and that speaks volumes. | 18:34 |
| OvenWerks | :) | 18:34 |
| OvenWerks | A stick in the mud :) but a nice guy otherwise | 18:35 |
| Eickmeyer | I just wish we could get Filipe back on the team rather than fragmenting into KXStudio. | 18:36 |
| OvenWerks | The one thing I do miss is that he uses a FW device and makes a good tester | 18:39 |
| OvenWerks | Filipe is splitting Catia off of Cadence so it would be good to have that. | 18:40 |
| OvenWerks | I do not think he is able to work within the debian/ubuntu world and do what he wants to do. | 18:41 |
| OvenWerks | he distributes binary blobs | 18:42 |
| Eickmeyer | He does, and he doesn't. I think the only binary blob he distributed was waf, but there's other things that I have to skip over in the plugins area. | 18:43 |
| OvenWerks | Ardour is a binary too | 18:43 |
| OvenWerks | not from src | 18:44 |
| OvenWerks | this means it includes the gtk2 patches ardour uses | 18:44 |
| Eickmeyer | People have complained about how slow his build is to launch compared to ours and/or Ardour's binary. | 18:47 |
| OvenWerks | wierd, it is Ardour's binary | 18:50 |
| OvenWerks | I don't know if he installs it on opt though | 18:50 |
| Eickmeyer | I don't know either. | 18:51 |
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