[04:36] <Curly> The Channel is quiet.
[04:37] <Curly> Covid-19 is still around.
[04:38] <diogenes_> Curly, it means we're weaker than bats.
[04:38] <Curly> :)
[04:38] <Curly> That's a good one.
[04:39] <Curly> How are you Diogenes?    Diogenes sounds Greek.
[04:39] <Curly> There is a Greek Diotrophes.
[04:39] <Curly> Or was also.
[04:40] <diogenes_> i'm fine thanks, yes it was a greek philosopher.
[04:40] <diogenes_> and how are you?
[04:40] <Curly> Yes in Bible days.
[04:40] <Curly> I'm not bad at all thanks.
[04:41] <Curly> I am from Massachusetts U.S.A.   And you?
[04:42] <diogenes_> from a small eastern european country and i see you're not sleepy at this late hour?
[04:43] <Curly> You are correct.
[04:43] <Curly> Late?
[04:43] <Curly> What is late for you?
[04:43] <Curly> What European Country are you from?
[04:44] <diogenes_> after 11pm my eyes get heavy.
[04:44] <Curly> I see.
[04:44] <Curly> I have been on one Linux Channel and the channelites thought I was an AI Bot.  :)
[04:45] <Curly> They asked me who was the President of U.S.A.
[04:45] <Curly> ?
[04:45] <Curly> ;)
[04:45] <diogenes_> the republic of moldova.
[04:45] <Curly> Moldove.  I don't know where that is.
[04:46] <Curly> Romania.
[04:46] <Curly> Eastern Europe.
[04:46] <diogenes_> that's expected, it's at the bottom of any list.
[04:47] <Curly> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Maldova&t=hk&atb=v215-1&ia=about&iax=about
[04:47] <Curly> I saw the red flag there.
[04:47] <Curly> Red, Yellow, Blue
[04:48] <diogenes_> yes
[04:48] <Curly> Interesting. My heritage is from the Roman Empire and the Indo-European line of discent.
[04:49] <diogenes_> we used to be a roman province too.
[04:50] <Curly> I see. My descendents came from Roman line of descent and traveled to Africa and became the first oceanic discoverers.
[04:50] <Curly> Portuguese.
[04:51] <Curly> My dad is Portuguese, my mom is English, British, and Newfoundland.
[04:51] <Curly> That is a strange combination.
[04:52] <diogenes_> hehe indeed diversity is good.
[04:53] <Curly> Well, when you see the world now in a state of chaos, due to hatred of blacks Versus whites, that is strange, because everyone breathing has a black descendant.
[04:53] <Curly> And white.
[04:54] <Curly> And if all of humanity came from Adam & Eve, then, does it matter what color we are?
[04:55] <diogenes_> well it was never differently, people always find a reason to hate.
[04:55] <Curly> Find or Look?
[04:56] <Curly> Some people try not to Find a "reason to hate."
[04:57] <Curly> What type of work do you do Diogenes?
[04:58] <diogenes_> Cain found the reason to hate but this is not for the support channel :)
[04:58] <diogenes_> !chat
[04:58] <Curly> Thanks for the advice.
[04:59] <Curly> Thank you  Ubotu.  ;)
[04:59] <diogenes_> you're welcome :)
[04:59] <Curly> The two smileys joined each other.   ;)
[05:00] <Curly> Diogenes, why did you choose Xubuntu over other distros?
[05:01] <diogenes_> i've tried the majority.
[05:01] <Curly> And?
[05:01] <diogenes_> and you?
[05:02] <diogenes_> and i'm dual booting.
[05:02] <Curly> Well! Me! I have tried so many distros, I got tired of the install and the rediculous divergency of all of the unnecessary off-based commands and formats of thought. No UNITY.
[05:03] <diogenes_> and you chose Xubuntu?
[05:04] <Curly> I like unity. Desultory distros from programmers that want to make a name for themselves is not my cup of tea.
[05:05] <Curly> Xubuntu has a lot of order and arrangement and a good support team, i.e. LTS. That should be key in determining factor.
[05:06] <Curly> The ease of use is paramount.
[05:06] <Curly> Ease of use I am used to.
[05:07] <diogenes_> you're right, Xubuntu is awesome, it ressurected so many machines.
[05:07] <Curly> You can see the unanimity in the product of the programmers.
[05:08] <Curly> Team work is what it is all about.
[05:08] <Curly> #Xubuntu Channel on IRC is a TEAM of people who work together to enlighten those who what to be part of the team.
[05:10] <diogenes_> yes they're very friendly people.
[05:10] <Curly> True.
[05:10] <Curly> I have seem a lot of arrogance with other users of lots of software, hardware, you name it.
[05:11] <diogenes_> hehe fanboys.
[05:11] <Curly> Fanboys?
[05:11] <Curly> What is that?
[05:12] <Curly> Geisha Girls in drag?
[05:13] <diogenes_> a fanboy is a person who only likes 1 product and defends it and criticises the rivals.
[05:14] <Curly> What a wonderful sales/person that is!   <----------<     Narrow minded.
[05:15] <diogenes_> sales person?
[05:15] <Curly> That is the person who knows nothing about anything and gets hired for the first time and the boss tells that person to solicit this product and the person acts like a 50 year veteran  of the product. That is funny.
[05:16] <Curly> When I first started working I was that stupid.
[05:16] <Curly> I fianally leanred what stupid is.
[05:17] <Curly> Now I am not as stupid as I was.  hehe
[05:17] <Curly> Being honest is a good thing.
[05:19] <Curly> What is your favorite part of Xubuntu?
[05:20] <diogenes_> and self-criticism is a sign of intellect.
[05:20] <Curly> That was an intellectual observation. :)
[05:22] <Curly> To me with anything the enjoyment is being able after all of the setup and the hard work and the hours of research to enable one to be able to be on the IRC; I found that it is the ultimate joy in being able to type one's thoughts' on a channel and express oneself.
[05:22] <diogenes_> the most faorite part is that it has some magic in it so it can boot on any PC, i came across PCs where nothing could boot, not even stock Ubuntu, only Xubuntu could.
[05:23] <Curly> I appreciate that observation. You must have tried a multitude of versions.
[05:24] <diogenes_> yes i've tried tons, even CentOs.
[05:24] <Curly> Lots of Legacy machines will fail on installation.
[05:24] <Curly> CentOs is a Red Hat Would-be.
[05:25] <Curly> Or wanabe.
[05:25] <Curly> Too.
[05:26] <Curly> At the Academy where I taught, one of the students was a Network Administrator. He ruined his credibility when he said: "I only use Cent0s."
[05:26] <diogenes_> CentOS could boot too on that machine but there was no touchpad but with Xubuntu all worked great.
[05:27] <Curly> Xubuntu is a UNICES derivative.
[05:27] <Curly> Xubuntu is a sudo-clone of UNIX.
[05:28] <diogenes_> btw do you play any chess?
[05:28] <Curly> Xubuntu works excellent. UNIX is the father of Xubuntu and Linux.
[05:28] <Curly> Yes. There are online chess games.
[05:29] <Curly> I live with my brother and his sons always play chess with my brother. There is a chess game going on all day long. :)
[05:30] <Curly> Your queen is your King piece. Think about that.
[05:30] <diogenes_> ok when you have the desire we could play some games.
[05:30] <Curly> Sure. You name it. :)
[05:31] <diogenes_> ok you want to try?
[05:31] <Curly> Is this chess game on your server?
[05:31] <diogenes_> nope, lichess.
[05:31] <Curly> If so, I would like the source-code or a copy.
[05:31] <Curly> Paste please the URL?
[05:32] <diogenes_> ok
[05:32] <Curly> If I need to give email address and all of that forget it.
[05:33] <diogenes_> https://lichess.org/JYuP4sX3
[05:33] <Curly> By the way, look up on the internet the longest poker game.
[05:34] <Curly> I'm there. Nice.
[05:34] <diogenes_> there is chat too.
[05:39] <Curly> I didn't see the chat. Did you make your move?
[05:40] <Curly> I was distracted.
[05:40] <diogenes_> yes i did
[05:40] <Curly> Ok. You are pretty good.
[05:40] <Curly> Who do you think will win?
[05:40] <Curly> hehe
[05:41] <diogenes_> why not chatting there?
[05:41] <Curly> I was just kidding. I will go back to the game.  :)
[05:47] <Curly> Why do you have two Kngs?
[05:47] <Curly> I see two kings. Is that a fault of the game?
[05:48] <diogenes_> those are 2 queens :)
[05:48] <Curly> I am not in check.
[05:48] <Curly> You have two queens?
[05:48] <Curly> What kind of a game is that?
[05:49] <diogenes_> i promoted my pawn to a queen.
[05:49] <Curly> Does that mean you quit?
[05:49] <Curly> You are funny.
[05:50] <diogenes_> no, that means i have 2 queens now.
[05:50] <diogenes_> each player can have 9 queens.
[05:52] <Curly> 9 queens, that is cheating. Hey!
[05:53] <Curly> This game is a free-for-all. hehe
[05:53] <Curly> What is the URL so I can tell my friends to log-in?
[05:54] <Curly> I like chess but not like that 9 queens. That is absured.   hehe
[05:54] <diogenes_> https://lichess.org/JYuP4sX3
[05:55] <diogenes_> yes ask your friend how many queens a player can have.
[05:57] <Curly> You are funny. Is this something you created?
[05:58] <Curly> I love the game. Does the game timeout after a while?
[05:58] <Curly> I think you cheated because you lost the game. hehe
[05:58] <diogenes_> i set unlimited time.
[05:59] <Curly> Good.
[05:59] <Curly> Why on Earth would you have 9 queens?
[05:59] <diogenes_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_of_chess#Pawn_promotion
[06:00] <Curly> That is like having all queens or all kings.
[06:01] <Curly> By the way, with chess, you have to specify the rules before you play. Not tell what the rules are afterwards. <----<
[06:01] <Curly> It is like poker.
[06:02] <Curly> By the way is there an online poker game like that?   I don't play poker but my brother does.
[06:04] <Curly> You know I won that game because you started adding more queens. That was cheating.
[06:04] <Curly> You are funny.
[06:04] <diogenes_> heh you said you can play chess so why would i give you the rules? no clue about pocker and i'll be away for awhile, thanks for chat and game, take care.
[06:04] <Curly> That is dirty.   :)
[06:04] <Curly> Cheat and run.
[06:05] <diogenes_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_of_chess#Pawn_promotion
[06:05] <Curly> Only in the world of Xubuntu.
[06:05] <diogenes_> see the rules again before you call someone a cheater.
[06:06] <Curly> Hey! I am bantering you. That is the nature of the game. I did have fun beating you. I am going to rub it in.  :)
[06:06]  * diogenes_ is away
[06:06] <Curly> :)
[06:07] <Curly> I think it is an excellent web game. Bravo.
[11:35] <pmjdebruijn> hey, is xfwm 4.14.2 somewhere in the pipeline?
[11:41] <pmjdebruijn> Oh isee there's a package in groovy, which I just backported locally
[14:13] <xubuntu49i> i would like to install xbuntu on a usb (not live) and the boot-loader will be on the usb drive separate from the normal bootloader on the computer , the computer has a mint linux not wondows
[16:06] <afyo> hey guys!
[16:07] <afyo> I got an interesting error, curious if any of you have seen it before.
[16:08] <afyo> Trying to log in this morning, I was login-looped, and I did some googling and they told me to rename the .Xauthority file and try again. So I did, and it worked. Just looked at my logs and it says permission denied trynig to read/write it
[20:13] <Curly> Here is some good reading of Xubuntu:  In the Press.    https://xubuntu.org/press/
[20:18] <Curly> Afyo perhaps the .Xauthority file renamed; the error message was there before you renamed it because of the loop.
[20:19] <Curly> Did you look at the error log before or after you renamed it?
[20:29] <Curly> https://www.maketecheasier.com/fix-ubuntu-login-loop/
[22:57] <Curly> Afyo, did you fix your problem?
[23:13] <Curly> Are there any musicians here on this Channel?
[23:15] <Curly> I haven't done any research on music and programs in Xubuntu but I play Lead Guitar. I found an old Windows program called: "Hendrix"  Which you can watch each note on the fretboard and hear the notes. Also have used MIDI too.
[23:17] <Curly> Most of the software out there is cookie-cutter software. There must be a studio version.