[09:20] <eoli3n_> Hi
[09:20] <eoli3n_> what replace icedtea-plugin which is deprecated ?
[15:14] <mason> eoli3n: Looks like there was a stable release two months ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icedtea
[15:48] <Odd_Bloke> vorlon: We've discovered that cloud-init opens its log on xenial with the encoding set to ANSI_X3.4-1968 (presumably because we're opening it quite early in boot; it is opened as UTF-8 later in boot); this means that we will silently discard log lines that have characters that couldn't be encoded in *checks notes* 1968.  Can you think of any reason for us not to just open the log file in UTF-8 (i.e.
[15:48] <Odd_Bloke> https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/427)?
[15:49] <Odd_Bloke> I can't think of any reason, but locales/encoding in the first stages of boot always make me nervous. :p
[15:54] <mdeslaur> I'm pretty sure I've been maintaining xenial since at least 1968
[15:54] <mdeslaur> maybe it just feels like it
[18:58] <ahasenack> juliank: around? (probably not, but here it goes anyway). I'm debugging a update-notifier message on trusty: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/xKstpcx9WT/
[18:58] <ahasenack>           # now check for security updates that are masked by a
[18:58] <ahasenack>             # canidate version from another repo (-proposed or -updates)
[18:59] <ahasenack> ^that is probably doing something incorrectly wrt esm security updates when esm is disabled
[19:22] <ahasenack> juliank: I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-notifier/+bug/1883315
[19:25] <vorlon> Odd_Bloke: I see no reason not to open it in utf8, no
[19:31] <Odd_Bloke> vorlon: Thanks!