derek-shnoshIts commented out in the file though.00:00
derek-shnoshRight now the nvidia driver version installed is 440.6200:00
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Are you abele to boot with the nouveau driver (maybe need to use nomodeset on the command line)?00:03
derek-shnoshCan you provide guidance on trying that?00:05
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> sudo apt purge nvidia-driver-44000:05
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> then try rebooting.  If black screen, then reboot again and go into grub.00:06
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> You might need to hit Esc to open the grub menu if not multi-boot  setup.00:06
derek-shnoshOk, standby00:06
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> will do.00:07
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> You might want to try the nvidia-driver-430 or 435 drivers until bug you encountered is fixed.00:08
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> FWIW, I have 2 NVidia systems here running fine with the 440.64.00 driver, and the 5.4.0-26 and 5.4.0-37 kernels.  (1080 and 960M models resp).00:12
derek-shnoshI've purged nvidia-driver-440, what whas the nomodeset ?00:13
derek-shnoshFor the record, I was running 440.82 with 5.4.0-33 kernel before this situation.00:14
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> try to reboot.  If you get a black screen, then reboot again and tap the Esc key until the grub menu appears.00:14
derek-shnoshI've rebooted, entered encryption pw, and now just the Lenovo image again... originally it'd just go to a black screen, this "lenovo image" thing has been prevalent since I did the `ubuntu-drivers install` command.00:16
derek-shnoshwill do the reboot now, and go to grub menu00:16
derek-shnoshOh, I read somewhere about `kstart5 plasmashell`, is this relevant? Because when I go to TTY2 and login and enter that command, it gives errors about `qt.qpa.xcb` and `qt.qpa.plugin`.00:17
derek-shnoshi'm at `grub>` prompt now00:18
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I think you are fighting graphic driver at the moment.  How did you install Kubuntu?00:18
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Select the top line00:18
derek-shnoshThere's nothing to select, its a prompt.00:19
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> just a "grub>" prompt?00:19
derek-shnoshyes i had the selectable menu before that but hitting ESC brought me to this prompt00:19
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> No text menu with kenerel selection options?00:19
derek-shnoshit was on screen before ESC, show sup every boot00:20
derek-shnoshcan i get back to that without rebooting, can i exit `grub>` prompt?00:20
derek-shnoshnvm, just rebooting00:20
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Oh, Ok on the selection menu, ensure the top line is selected and hit the "e" key to edit00:20
derek-shnosh1st option is "ubuntu", 2nd option is "Advanced options"00:20
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> yes00:20
derek-shnoshok done00:21
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> https://www.dell.com/support/article/en-us/sln306327/manual-nomodeset-kernel-boot-line-option-for-linux-booting?lang=en00:21
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Let me know if more explanation is needed.00:21
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derek-shnoshok put the `nomodeset`, reading00:21
derek-shnoshEYYY login screen!00:22
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> also remove the quiet option to enable the viewing of the boot steram00:22
derek-shnoshdidn't remove quiet, but i 'm on my desktop now00:22
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> cool!00:22
derek-shnoshso i presume this is a temp solution?00:23
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> no need to remove quiet00:23
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> that was just to reveal any monsters that may be preventing boot.00:23
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> yes, temp solution.  So now try installing the 430 or 435 driver.00:23
derek-shnoshhow about 440.82? i still have that DLed00:24
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Sure, git it a try.00:25
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> The steps above will restore you back to a system where you can try the other drivers if needed.00:25
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> So if 440.82 black screen, ctrl-alt-f2 for the tty, sudo apt purge nvidia-driver-*, boot with nomodeset via grub, and try another driver.00:27
derek-shnoshsays i'm missing nvidia-installer-cleanup when i run dpkg -i on the 440.82 driver00:27
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> is the  440.82 driver from the nvdia-ppa or downloaded from NVidia?00:30
derek-shnoshthe 440.82 driver is weird, says `nvidia-driver-440/focal 440.82+really.440.64-0ubuntu6 amd64`00:32
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Yes, the ppa website is equally mixed....00:32
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=focal00:32
derek-shnoshthere's still a considerable amount of nvidia things showing when I run `apt list -i | grep nvidia`00:33
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Try enabling the PPA and then run "sudo apt install nvidia-driver-440"00:33
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> grep for nvidia-driver-440 and report the version...00:34
derek-shnoshok.... that's where I see `nvidia-driver-440/focal 440.82+really.440.64-0ubuntu6 amd64`00:35
derek-shnoshI just installed it, since it came from PPA, i don't have to manually sign it fore secureboot do i?00:35
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> apt list nvidia-driver-440 -a00:35
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> correct, no manual signing will be necessary.00:36
derek-shnoshalright when I run that cmd, another one shows up00:36
derek-shnosh`nvidia-driver-440/focal 440.82-0ubuntu0- amd64`00:36
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> that's what I see here also.00:36
derek-shnoshi read a reddit threat discussing why the "really" one is there.00:37
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> And apt says:  nvidia-driver-440/focal,now 440.82+really.440.64-0ubuntu6 amd64 [installed]00:37
derek-shnoshis there a way to force the 440.82 (actual) install via apt since it shows up with `apt list -a`?00:38
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Oh, still have the link?  I do not know why we have 2 options.00:38
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> no idea...00:38
derek-shnoshis it a terrible idea to `apt purge *nvidia*` and start over?00:39
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> nope, apt purge should work fine.00:39
derek-shnoshfor *nvidia*... or just nvidia*?00:40
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I have used it myself several times before my hybrid laptop was properly supported.00:40
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> nvidia-* is fine00:40
derek_shnosh2Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/26c058fb2e3c3b37399c2a1106159f9e/pasted.txt00:41
derek-shnosh^ that's the output from `apt list -i | grep nvidia`00:41
derek-shnoshThere's a bunch of "libnivida-*" things in there00:41
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> yes, all of those will be cleaned up as they depends of the main driver...00:42
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Assuming the packages are setup properly.00:42
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> run the purge and check again.00:42
derek-shnoshahh ok00:42
derek-shnoshthis is weird, i type `sudo apt purge nvidia-*` and it says "unable to locate package nvidia-*"00:44
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> try sudo apt purge nvidia*00:45
derek-shnoshdoing the same thing00:45
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> sudo apt purge nvidia-driver-44000:46
derek-shnoshthat' worked.00:46
derek-shnoshguess you cant wildcard that00:46
derek-shnoshok, so the driver isn't in the `list -i` anymore... but everything else still is00:47
derek-shnoshahh, need to do `autoremove` i think00:47
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> do you have any nvidia files in you current directory?  I have seen where apt will try to act on any files in your current directory when the wild card is used (very strange and unexpected behavior).00:47
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> try sudo apt autoremove00:48
derek-shnoshI did that now there's only 4 left...00:48
derek_shnosh2Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/9612ed0994b4c465fcb1db792cdd9c08/pasted.txt00:48
derek_shnosh2should i purge those too?00:49
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> yes, I would00:49
derek-shnoshthe linux modules one too?00:49
derek-shnoshi presume i'm going to have to sign the 440.82 driver if i do it from .deb00:50
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Yes, if you use the deb route, I suspect manual signing may be required.00:50
derek-shnoshi've got the whole list nuked.00:51
derek-shnoshcan i force apt to use the "actual" 440.82 driver?00:51
derek-shnoshi think i can00:52
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I have no idea how to force the 440.82 only driver.00:52
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> How did you do it?00:52
derek-shnosh`apt install nvidia-driver-440=440.82-0ubuntu0-
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> cool!00:53
derek-shnoshgetting complaints about unmet dependencies though00:53
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> like what?00:53
derek_shnosh2Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/5f49a51e5e39a4c59db4eb21bc6a8a16/pasted.txt00:53
derek-shnoshi'm going to get castrated if i don't go eat dinner with the fam right now... lol i'll come back to this if you're still here. I greatly appreciate your help/guidance!00:54
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> what if you try  sudo apt install —fix-broken00:55
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> very good :)00:55
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> this should fix the issue: sudo apt install nvidia-driver-440=440.82-0ubuntu0- xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-44000:56
derek-shnoshooh pizza night, have a few mins before its ready00:56
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I have had to explicitly specify the xorg server version when installing bleeding edge drivers.00:57
derek-shnoshI typed that and got the same output... about dependencies.00:57
derek-shnoshis `--fix-broken` cmd by itself, or add to apt install?00:58
derek-shnoshi'm going to install from .deb and sign it.00:58
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> keep adding the files in the depends....00:58
derek-shnoshi don't want it installing this "really440.64" stuff00:58
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> ok00:58
derek-shnoshi have quick scripts to generate and sign for kernel updates... have to do it for vmware workstation too00:59
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> my  packages seem to be the 82 version even though the 64 package is installed: https://pastebin.com/7FZKfeie01:00
derek-shnoshthat's how mine was, i interpret that as saying the 440.64 driver is actually installed01:01
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> nm, yes i agree.. seems to be the 64 packages.01:02
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> what's in 82 that you need?01:02
derek-shnoshWell installing the 440-82(really440.64) drivers i don't get login screen remember?01:04
derek-shnoshwe had to do `nomodeset`01:04
derek-shnoshso i think reinstalling this won't do much good01:04
derek-shnoshi mean, i can try01:04
derek-shnoshyeah i'm going to let that rip01:05
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I am not sure if the deb installed all the necessary deps.  But at least you know how to recover now to try other stuff.01:05
derek-shnoshi do, thank you! I can tinker around and if I come up with a solution i'll chime in.01:05
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Excellent, yes please let me know what works.01:06
derek-shnoshgoing to copy the install log01:06
derek_shnosh2Yikes.. yeah errors...01:07
derek_shnosh2Uploaded file: https://uploads.kiwiirc.com/files/8745b6ab3e2fb6aa8c28e8230eab7433/pasted.txt01:07
derek-shnoshnote sure why it says secureboot not enabled, it absolutely is01:08
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> hmmm, that is strange....01:09
derek-shnoshhmm, errors might be nothing... says things are already found in kernel01:21
derek-shnoshDarinMiller oddly enough I'm even getting the issue with all nvidia drivers purged02:47
derek-shnosh... but now my tty2 was flashing too... tf02:48
derek-shnosh@DarinMiller - I'm up and running with `nvidia-driver-435` and kernel 5.4.0-37. Over the 440 driver for now, haha too much time lost.03:41
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> test complete?03:42
derek-shnoshSeems so. ;)03:43
thescthis works03:43
thescdidnt know if this worked as this is my firt time using IRC03:43
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> <derek-shnosh>   did you succeed with your driver install?03:46
derek-shnoshI'm up and running with `nvidia-driver-435` and kernel 5.4.0-37. Over the 440 driver for now, haha too much time lost03:47
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> understood.03:47
derek-shnoshI purged all things nvidia again and rebooted, was able to get on both .33 and .37 kernels with nouveau03:47
derek-shnoshused app to install 435 and here i am.03:47
derek-shnoshi'd like to get up to 440 but i think i'll wait for the ppa version of "actual" 440.8203:48
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Yes, I agree.  If you discover another solution please post here.  And I will do likewise.03:48
derek-shnoshi def will, but might be better to contact direct since i don't idle here on IRC or telegram03:49
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> that would be fine also03:49
derek-shnoshLooks like IRC bot can't do /msg between IRC and telegram, sec03:50
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I opened konversation03:50
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IrcsomeBot<AlejandroCastro> Hi, I am having a problem triyng to run hexter on Kubuntu 20.04 … I update and upgrade packages … After runnning "jack-dssi-host /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dssi/hexter" in a terminal I got the error "Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: 'adwaita'" so I installed gnome-themes-standard and gnome-themes-extra. Now hexter starts and even I can se it in qjackctl connections panels, but ui does not show. 04:52
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I have never run hexter.  Look like it needs a jack server to run...04:58
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IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> You might want to ask on the ubuntu studio channel as they should more audio experience then the general audience here.04:59
IrcsomeBot<AlejandroCastro> yes, I tryed running jack before. Nothing change. … If i do not that then jackd starts anyway04:59
IrcsomeBot<AlejandroCastro> ok, I thought it is a problem related to GTK apps in Kubuntu.05:00
IrcsomeBot<AlejandroCastro> Is there a popular GTK app that I can test in Kubuntu to limit the problem?05:01
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> studio is in the process of converting to KDE, so they may have encountered and possibly solved the problem.  In fact, quite a few of the Devs already run KDE.05:01
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> gimp?05:02
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> but its gtk 2.xx05:02
IrcsomeBot<AlejandroCastro> well, I am going to test Gimp. I am a Kubuntu user since ~2016 I think. Hexter works fine in plasma for 17.04 and 19.10 version of Kubuntu05:06
IrcsomeBot<AlejandroCastro> Thanks05:06
IrcsomeBot<AlejandroCastro> This channel is great05:06
IrcsomeBot<AlejandroCastro> Gimp works perfectly 😩05:08
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I wonder if it runs on regular ubuntu.....  have you asked if anyone in the Ubuntu channel is successfully running on 20.04?05:08
IrcsomeBot<AlejandroCastro> That is a good idea. Let me check05:11
IrcsomeBot<AlejandroCastro> "Hi i am an user of another distro but i need your help" … hahahaha05:13
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> :)05:13
IrcsomeBot<nash_g5> Morning everyone.05:23
IrcsomeBot<nash_g5> (Photo, 800x536) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/gPdyIIjN/file_31972.jpg Every time I install a flatpak from discover - I get this crash notification:05:23
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> @AlejandroCastro, This should solve the adwaita issue: sudo apt install gnome-themes-standard05:40
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Then run hexter as follows: pasuspender jack-dssi-host /usr/lib/*/dssi/hexter.so05:41
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> you may need to manually kill any residual jack sessions.05:41
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> however, on my system, I see this error: Cannot use real-time scheduling (RR/10)(1: Operation not permitted)05:42
IrcsomeBot<AlejandroCastro> @DarinMiller, this is due you must add your user name to audio group, and allow audio group to run in real-time05:44
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Did the above fix hextor for you?05:44
IrcsomeBot<AlejandroCastro> however, I think this is a problem in my system, There are a weird behaviour with hexter deamon. It shows the message: … jack-dssi-host: OSC URL is: … osc.udp://abc:16301/dssi//usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dssi/hexter/hexter/chan00 … but abc does not mean nothing in my system … dismiss my request for now, I will tell what is happening if I let it work05:47
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> ok, thanks!05:47
IrcsomeBot<AlejandroCastro> pffff, thanks to you05:48
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> More fun stuff on the way: https://pointieststick.com/2020/06/12/this-week-in-kde-plasma-5-20-features-start-landing/05:52
DakeiizsigAIO: I don't know if you're online, but I managed (without doing anything) to get the same speed as I did before... I now have 890Mbps on Fast.com08:30
DakeiizAlso performed a test on Speedtest.net: https://www.speedtest.net/result/959827178608:30
DakeiizI removed the connection from the list, and perhaps a reboot is what solved it.08:31
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BluesKaj'Morning folks11:29
ertsHi there, from time I get disconnected from wifi and prompted for the password, however my router is stable and not going down, signal is strong and good quality and the password is stored on the system (for all users, non encrypted). My battery is not low and I disabled wifi power management for good measure. This has been happening with Kubuntu (and any other KDE Plasma based systems), but not with other DEs, using the same setup and also11:30
ertsnetworkmanager. Does anybody have this same problem or know why this is happening? Running 20.04 but happening since 18.04.11:30
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ertsThis is happening on my three laptops with different wifi chips, by the way - so I would rule out drivers or hardware failures...11:32
BluesKajerts, one thing to check is your wifi channel on your router and check the auto option if there is one, if not change the default wifi channel from 6 to one which is less busy. Most wifi users on windows don't do this, but channel 6 can get very crowded in some environments that have alot of users nearby which can cause dropouts.11:38
erts__And it happened again...11:41
erts__BluesKaj: yep I tested that but didn't notice a difference. Still, even if I get micro-cuts I shouldn't be asked for a password every single time...there's something going on with Plasma11:42
erts__Every time I get prompted, I hit cancel and then connect manually through the NM plasmoid and I don't get the password prompt11:42
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Dakeiizerts, so if I understand correctly you're having issues with WiFi on Kubuntu 20.04? If so, you're not alone... I also had issues since 18.04. Had no issues with Linux Mint but they appeared when I installed Kubuntu.11:54
ertsDakeiiz: nice to hear I'm not alone, and I'm sorry to hear that...this is so annoying... :P11:55
ertsDid you do any troubleshooting or have any findings so far?11:55
ertsI've experienced these problems with any distro using Plasma, actually...11:56
DakeiizI'm afraid to say that I've given up using WiFi whatsoever... It's not a big deal for me because I have easy access to wired ethernet.11:56
DakeiizAh I see. It's always a bit hard to say whether it comes from the kernel, the distro or the DE11:56
ertsSmart decision, not an option for me though.... :(11:57
ertsYeah checking the logs it just seems like the connection drops and that's it. I do expect micro-cuts, or in some environments to have unstable wifi and have to re-connect (not at home, but in other places). However it doesn't make sense to me that I keep being prompted for the password!11:58
ertsIt's like Plasma itself forgets it has the password stored in NM, and when I click cancel and re-connect manually, it gets it fine11:59
cojackwhere I can search for code related to the System Settings -> Online Accounts?11:59
DakeiizMaybe it's because the connection is getting "reset" (removed/re-added), so Plasma thinks it's a new connection.11:59
ertsAccording to the logs, no sign of that... NM does try to reconnect several times in a row though, so maybe the router is doing some kind of throttling and Plasma thinks the stored password is incorrect...12:00
ertsI wonder if there's a way to slow down the re-connection attempts12:00
ertsThen I could go on to troubleshoot the stability of my router, maybe I was wrong about that. Still very weird behaviour to annoy me asking for passwords that are stored12:01
DakeiizYou've said you had the same problem with all distro running Plasma, so I assume you've tried with a completely different DE? Did it work as expected?12:08
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luc4Hello! Anyone running nvidia drivers on nvidia Quadro by any chance?12:29
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magic_ninjadoes kubuntu have anything that will display hardware info, kind of like everest? Kinfocenter doesn't display any hardware information.14:10
magic_ninjaAnd it seems like my cpu fans are running at 100%. This wasn't an issue on 19.0414:10
magic_ninjaor 19.1014:10
BluesKajmadeti_, run lspci in the konsole14:20
BluesKajno patience14:21
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IrcsomeBot<RandomPaulTelegram> How is it possible to install the latest Plasma on Kubuntu 20.10 beta?15:24
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franzocan someone help me with clonezilla? I asked on their IRC channel but it seems it's dead18:10
franzoMaybe is also related with Kubuntu because it can't find my NIC when I try to use it to create an image via ssh18:10
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IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/mD100z07/file_32045.jpg Please can anyone help me with this error in kdenlive? It's unable to export..21:04
IrcsomeBot<Terminator_99> My 6 hours wasted 🤦 can't even export now .. any help please21:05
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IrcsomeBot<AlejandroCastro> (Photo, 800x600) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/NYok0v0b/file_32050.jpg Same problem on Ubuntu liveUSB. I will keep looking.22:55
valorie@AlejandroCastro that sounds like a failing drive22:58
valorieI would back up NOW everything you want to keep22:58
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Valorie, Alejandro is trying to run hexter.  I can reproduce the problem on my machine.  He was testing regular Ubuntu to bisect the issue.  Apparently its a packaging problem in 20.04 not specific to KDE.23:01
valorieah, OK23:01
valoriethanks @DarinMiller23:01
valorieHow are things out your way?23:02
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> I am very well, thanks. :)23:02
valoriecool and damp here23:02
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> And you?23:02
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Same here.23:02
valoriepeople are calling it Junauary23:02
valorieI don't mind it a bit23:02
valorieoops, Junuary23:02
IrcsomeBot<DarinMiller> Perfect23:03
valorieI'm good, got my gardening in when it was less damp23:03
valorieand the flowers don't mind cool and damp one bit23:03
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