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 @MenmuirMark [USB camera (and microscope) now working on the Raspberry Pi running Ubuntu Touch …], awesome!
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[04:56] <hallyn> played around a bit with ubports on the pinephone again.  (the nexus 4 is physically dead and unsalvageable).
[04:56] <hallyn> It seems like there might be a redraw bug.
[04:56] <hallyn> well, the first thing i noticed was that the 'updates' system settings page doesn't have a 'channel's option.
[04:56] <hallyn> that seemed odd.
[04:57] <hallyn> but when i was trying to set up an account in dekko 2, updates never show up unless i do the short swipe from right edge to switch apps,
[04:58] <hallyn> so for instance i click the 'new account' button, nothing seems to happen. but in fact there's a new window, it just didn't redraw.  until i switch apps.  likeiwse, as i'm hitting any button, typing any chars on the keyboard, etc,
[04:58] <hallyn> nothing shows up until i switch back to the main dekko page and then back to the popup
[04:59] <hallyn> SO I'd tap on 'name', and blindly type my name, then switch and switch back, then my name would show up :)  it could be a dekko bug, but mayb eit explains weirdness i'd seen with other apps, which i thought had frozen or just didn't react to buttons
 @hallyn [well, the first thing i noticed was that the 'updates' system settings page does …], are you sure you are using the factory image? you might have rhe old image which don't support OTA yet
 @hallyn [SO I'd tap on 'name', and blindly type my name, then switch and switch back, the …], this is a knonw bug for all apps with separate windows like dekko and terminal
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/yTq1Z7S0.png
 I have that problem :\
[06:23] <hallyn> @Javacookies - (known bug) oh, interesting.  This is new?  I ran ubports fo rquite a while on the nexus 4 and did not see it.
[06:25] <hallyn> no i'm not sure it's the factory image.  let's see, it was an image called ubuntu-touch-pinephone.img,
 @hallyn [@Javacookies - (known bug) oh, interesting.  This is new?  I ran ubports fo rqui …], the pinephone is using wayland now and I believe a newer mir so it's really not stable at the moment with many bugs. It's the pioneer for wayland and I think all devices will eventually use wayland.
[06:26] <hallyn> i see
[06:26] <hallyn> thanks
 @hallyn [no i'm not sure it's the factory image.  let's see, it was an image called ubunt …], you might have downloaded the image from the disabled system job. You
 should be this now … https://ci.ubports.com/job/rootfs/job/rootfs-pinephone-systemimage/
[06:27] <hallyn> ooh.  maybe that'll give me better battery life :)
[06:28] <hallyn> hm, but i have a feeling that is where i got it...  anyway i'll fetch the new one i guess
 @hallyn [ooh.  maybe that'll give me better battery life :)], not yet since crust hasn't really landed in the devel channel yet … the tweet about it might be inaccurate 😅
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[06:50] <ubptgbot> <Stewart Agarwal> https://i.imgur.com/zzdED8p.png
 I opened YouTube,After I watched Ubuntu touch on braveheart edition and saw that guy using it like a boss from the phone ui to desktop mode.i since then wish Ubuntu touch was a finish product.God bless all developers the most intelligent people on earth.
 Please they should never lose track on the multitasking.android multitasking became shitty with time(even 3gb ram is a mess)only symbian was the real multitasking king.please Ubuntu touch should have a very good multitasking even with (1gb of ram)
 [Edit] Please they should never lose track on the multitasking .Android multitasking became shitty with time(even 3gb ram is a mess)only symbian was the real multitasking king.please Ubuntu touch should have a very good multitasking even with (1gb of ram)
 @Obinna [Please they should never lose track on the multitasking .Android multitasking be …], it's pretty easy to multitask on UT because of the edge swipes which makes it really quick to swicth and open apps but in terms of opened apps, 1 GB of RAm can only do much 😅
 @Javacookies [it's pretty easy to multitask on UT because of the edge swipes which makes it re …], But how did symbian did it?
 haven't really used symbian that much but I assume apps were much lighter on that platform. Was it able to open many apps at the same time without closing them?
 @Javacookies [haven't really used symbian that much but I assume apps were much lighter on tha …], I believe it was lighter,but the most astonishing thing is that you can keep  apps running in the background for days without even knowing
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 @hallyn [hm, but i have a feeling that is where i got it...  anyway i'll fetch the new on …], You might have full memory, i can see many updates and dowmoads on your screenshot, you should delete
 sudo mount -t tmpfs tmpfs /var/cache/apt/archives
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[10:00] <Mac101> hey anyone running ubports on a uk nexus 5?
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[10:39] <ubptgbot> <DMR Yuliya> (Photo, 599x898) https://irc.ubports.com/WF0M4R0V.png
 @Mac101 [hey anyone running ubports on a uk nexus 5?], Why os an uk nexus 5 diferent from others nexus 5?
[11:59] <Mac101> i dont know if it is, i know samsung usually has different processors for uk+euro & us
[11:59] <Mac101> thought worth an ask
 you will have no issues
 just be careful with the prices
 and buy a new battery
[12:05] <Mac101> hey what platform are you talking through?
[12:06] <Mac101> like a linked discord or something?
 This is the official TG Supergroup
[12:08] <Mac101> TG?
 Telegram
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 any port for xiaomi devices?
 @pramudika [any port for xiaomi devices?], devices.ubuntu-touch.io
 Pinephone version 48,icons real small ,as if for a tablet
 yeah, it'll be fixed dont worry
[13:54] <ubptgbot> <Justine Smithies> Just got dev version 48 and now the unity dock and the top bar is really tiny on my BH Pinephone. Everything else is the correct size if I open apps.
 @vtsoft [devices.ubuntu-touch.io], thx bro
[14:16] <hallyn> @milkor73 - "on your screenshot" I don't think I posted a screenshot?
 I see now, I am sorry it was Manuel, my eyes mistake
 Port for lenovo note 3
 @Prshkr [Port for lenovo note 3], Search xda ?
 @pramudika [any port for xiaomi devices?], I am using an unofficial port for mido (Redmi Note 4), the latest version is so damn stable!
 But some apps aren't working
 But it is still in alpha
 Yet still it's stable, not sure for those new Xiaomi devices though
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/oMSgkLuX.png Also
 There are also some official builds
 I didn't know
 @Justine Smithies [Just got dev version 48 and now the unity dock and the top bar is really tiny on …], Tweak tool change scaling to 8
[14:55] <ubptgbot> <Sam Hanna> I have playback issues on my oneplus one. Is that a known issue?
[14:55] <ubptgbot> <Sam Hanna> On youtube I mean
[14:55] <ubptgbot> <Justine Smithies> @Marathon2422 [Tweak tool change scaling to 8], Thanks for that. 👍🏻
 @Marathon2422 [Tweak tool change scaling to 8], actually no, it's still 14. it's just lonmiri that has the wrong scaoing
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 @Javacookies [actually no, it's still 14. it's just lonmiri that has the wrong scaoing], Thanks , I will wait for the next version
 @milkor73 [I see now, I am sorry it was Manuel, my eyes mistake], Thank you, unfortunately doesn't work
 I'll try to reinstakl the system, is there a way to reinstall without wipe any app or data?
 [Edit] I'll try to reinstall the system, is there a way to reinstall without wipe any app or data?
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 @pramudika [any port for xiaomi devices?], Which device in particular?
 How do I delete an app created with Webber on the PinePhone? Going to my apps in the open store does not work. Going to local-share-applications and deleting the file does not work.
 @nefariousNIFFIN [How do I delete an app created with Webber on the PinePhone? Going to my apps in …], either via Tweak tool or long press in the app drawer
 Long press in the app Georges opens open store. Once I’m there I cannot interact with the apps I created using Weber. Touching them does not bring up an interaction menu.
 How do I do it using the tweak tool?
 Menu -> Apps & Scopes for a list of apps
 @nefariousNIFFIN [Long press in the app Georges opens open store. Once I’m there I cannot interact …], it should open a page in the openstore where you can delete it … anywau, in Tweak tool there's an apps and cscopes tab
 Again, I cannot interact with apps made through Webber in the open store. Long pressing just opens the store and then when I go to my apps it shows them but doesn’t allow me to interact with them.
 The tweak tool worked though. Thank you!
 @nefariousNIFFIN [Again, I cannot interact with apps made through Webber in the open store. Long p …], let me try that ob my pinephone, haven't seen that issue
 The tweak tool is proving very useful. That needs to be installed by default.
 it is helpful but I think ideally some of its functions should be implemnted into the core of the system. UTTT is like a testbed of some unofficial features and maybe you can call it a stop gap
 Hey I’m all for baking those features in.
 well in this case it is simply a matter of openstore having an issue that needs fixing, it sounds like
 Do I need to report this somewhere? I’ve never been an early adopter of anything before.
 https://gitlab.com/theopenstore i guess
 Yes, that seems to be a Pinephone only problem. On my "normal" phone I can delete Webber webapps in OpenStore app.
 @nefariousNIFFIN [Do I need to report this somewhere? I’ve never been an early adopter of anything …], I just tried on my pinephone though and the open store opens fine and responsive
 Then maybe clear cache as standard solution for all problems?
 I'm using FP2 on RC channel and after the last update my phone doesn't charge. So I powered it off and try to charge it this way but when it gets to 1% it starts, the battery gets to 0% and it shutdowns again.
 (Video, 46s) https://irc.ubports.com/fAmkiO5d.mp4
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 First, I'd recommend updating the OpenStore
 @dikelito [I'm using FP2 on RC channel and after the last update my phone doesn't charge. S …], Use a higher power charger and leave it for a bit
 It says I am up to date when I search for updates
 @nefariousNIFFIN [It says I am up to date when I search for updates], Go to My Apps in the OpenStore. The updated apps are available at the top.
 @dikelito [I'm using FP2 on RC channel and after the last update my phone doesn't charge. S …], tried adjusting the battery module? perhaps it's just that something came a bit loose
 FP2 issues often come down to just things coming a bit loose
 @amyosx [Use a higher power charger and leave it for a bit], I'm charging it from the wall. I don't have more powerful charger. I left it for about 5 hours but no luck
 Oh no
 Put it in recovery?
 i highly doubt anything in the UT update would affect the charging capability of the hardware
 @amyosx [Put it in recovery?], What was the key combination? Both volume buttons?
 @dikelito [What was the key combination? Both volume buttons?], Idk
 @dohbee [i highly doubt anything in the UT update would affect the charging capability of …], Me too, but it is the only thing that was changed
 @dikelito [Me too, but it is the only thing that was changed], did you take the battery out, and reinstall it, to reseat everything?
 poor contact == poor charging
 @UniversalSuperBox [Go to My Apps in the OpenStore. The updated apps are available at the top.], That did it. So apps have to be updated through the open store not through system updates? System updates did not show that I needed to update the store, but the store did.
 @nefariousNIFFIN [That did it. So apps have to be updated through the open store not through syste …], if you're on pinephone i think there's an issue with app udpates in system updates
 Yes, pp
 Thanks everybody
 @dohbee [did you take the battery out, and reinstall it, to reseat everything?], yes I tried different charges and different contacts
 @dikelito [yes I tried different charges and different contacts], i don't mean the charger. i mean the battery module of the phone itself
 I removed it and put it in again
 and well, maybe the battery just died, too
 :(
 the thing is it is showing that it is charging when the phone is off but when it starts it shows it is not charging
 probably when it tries to boot it consumes more energy than is going into the device
 so it discharges too fast
 or maybe some other part of the hardware came loose or such. but it's basically impossible for us to know, really. you just have to fiddle with it, since it's your phone :)
 @dikelito [I'm charging it from the wall. I don't have more powerful charger. I left it for …], If you want to rule out UT: Install TWRP recovery, and see if it charges there. Thats the easiest way to verify it
 I once dropped my phone and one of the cables got loose. After opening and reseating all of them it was clear why charging stopped. Additionally also I lost USB and sound, so that was one cable carrying all of this ^^
 Does someone know how to install codecs for mp3 and mp4 in ubuntu touch (RPI)?
[21:57] <ubptgbot> <Justine Smithies> I noticed an issue with Dev 47 haven't tested yet with 48. But if I leave the phone to go flat it actually doesn't switch off leaving enough to power it back on. The phone just gets to the Pinephone logo and dies and is stuck in this cycle. To fix I remove the SD card and let it boot to pmos test mode and charge for a while. Then
[21:57] <ubptgbot>  it'll boot UB once the card is put back in. Pinephone BH.
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 @wouter182 [Does someone know how to install codecs for mp3 and mp4 in ubuntu touch (RPI)?], i guess you'd have to install the debs for software decoding with gstreamer
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 @wouter182 [Does someone know how to install codecs for mp3 and mp4 in ubuntu touch (RPI)?], Probably the wrong thing to do but I installed ffmpg and that lets me play mp3 files from the terminal with the `-nodisp` option.
 @dohbee [i guess you'd have to install the debs for software decoding with gstreamer], Thanks, if it is gstreamer based, than I know enough to solve it.
 @nefariousNIFFIN [That did it. So apps have to be updated through the open store not through syste …], actually it's not an update per se in this case, some preinstalled apps on the pinephone apparently have versions that the store can't recognize so what you there is it offers you to install current version of that app in the store.
[23:13] <ubptgbot> This function is not available in the system settings app.
 @wouter182 [Thanks, if it is gstreamer based, than I know enough to solve it.], it is, and i suppose there isn't a gstreamer plug-in that uses hardware decoding on pi (assuming it has any hardware codec support)
 (Video, 61s) https://irc.ubports.com/BnDBBIKN.mp4 Sam
 (Video, 61s) https://irc.ubports.com/ZM752d4e.mp4 Sam
[23:32] <ubptgbot> <Sam Hanna> Does anyone know a terminal that works on libertine?