[00:14] <pinheadmz1> I have quesiton about custom dns server using ubuntu 20
[00:14] <pinheadmz1> when i set my dns server ip in settings, it just doesnt work
[00:14] <pinheadmz1> i can manually force it in resolv.conf
[00:15] <pinheadmz1> but that gets overwritten onr estart now
[00:15] <tomreyn> !YY.MM
[00:15] <flyback> wtf good is documentation that does't work
[00:15] <tomreyn> wher ein settings do you set the dns server to use?
[00:15] <flyback> for building a kernel
[00:15] <tomreyn> pinheadmz1: this was to you.
[00:15] <Bashing-om> !netplan | pinheadmz1
[00:16] <pinheadmz1> tomreyn: in wifi settings, ipv4 dns tab (GUI)
[00:17] <flyback> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-z-systems/+bug/1863116
[00:17] <flyback> it affects all of them
[00:17] <flyback> x86 etc
[00:17] <tomreyn> pinheadmz1: hmm, usually this would be applied as soon as this connection is activated
[00:17] <pinheadmz1> exactly
[00:17] <pinheadmz1> i dont understand
[00:17] <pinheadmz1> there could be something wrong with my resovler
[00:17] <pinheadmz1> when i set 1.1.1.1 it works
[00:17] <pinheadmz1> or seems to
[00:17] <pinheadmz1> but when i set to ip of resolver i run it doesnt
[00:17] <pinheadmz1> but i know that resolver works
[00:17] <pinheadmz1> bc i can dig @ it
[00:17] <pinheadmz1> and when i manually set in resolv.conf it works, until restart
[00:18] <pinheadmz1> so i wonder if ubuntu does some kind of check against a DNS server
[00:18] <pinheadmz1> mayube i dont have something configured quite right and ubuntu just ignores my custom dns setting
[00:19] <tomreyn> when you set it in the network manager GUI (the one you discussed above) and activate the link, what does "systemd-resolve --status" report for this link's "DNS Servers:" and what's logged in the system journal?
[00:20] <pinheadmz1> it reports the correct IP, the one i set
[00:20] <tomreyn> and how do you tell that "it does not work"?
[00:21] <pinheadmz1> because i cant get any dns results :-P
[00:21] <pinheadmz1> all dig returns empty and browser doesnt work
[00:21] <pinheadmz1> until i manually set the resolver ip in resolv.conf
[00:21] <tomreyn> and "systemd-resolve example.org" reports?
[00:22] <pinheadmz1> recieved invalid reply
[00:23] <tomreyn> i bet it says more than that
[00:23] <pinheadmz1> google.com: resolve call failed: Received invalid reply
[00:23] <pinheadmz1> jsut that, no verbost
[00:23] <pinheadmz1> *verbose error message
[00:23] <pinheadmz1> and i can dig example.org no problem
[00:24] <pinheadmz1> example.org.  86351 IN A 93.184.216.34
[00:24] <tomreyn> so back to my previous question: what's logged to the journal?
[00:24] <pinheadmz1> journalctl systemd-resolve ?
[00:25] <filifunky> hellooooo!  I upgraded to ubuntu 20.04 which apparently likes python 3.  I had problems so I made my python default to python 3.  However when I ran this program i like rednotebook it gives me problems.  What I found online is that I should learn to do virtualenv.  So I did that but even though i setup a virtualenv where I say hey use python 2.7, when i do a python --version it still gives me python 3.  Any ideas of what I should do?
[00:25] <tomreyn> generally, when you activate the connection and try to resolve something using systemd-resolve
[00:25] <tomreyn> pinheadmz1: also which dns server are you using, configured how?
[00:26] <bparker> filifunky: run python2 instead of python
[00:26] <pinheadmz1> tomreyn: so no new lines in journal when i systemd-resolve, or dig
[00:26] <pinheadmz1> tomreyn: its not Bind, its something else... Handshake. A blockcahin based alternative root zone :-)
[00:26] <pinheadmz1> but it works just like any recursive resolver
[00:27] <pinheadmz1> and it works on my windows and mac machines fine. and on linux servers
[00:27] <filifunky> bparker ahhh, well yeah when i do python2 --version it gives me the right version
[00:27] <pinheadmz1> but trying to get it working on ubntu dektop, facing this issue
[00:27] <tomreyn> pinheadmz1: well, apparently it doesn't work in a way that systemd-resolve would expect.
[00:27] <filifunky> ok maybe that's all i need to figure out what my next problem is
[00:27] <pinheadmz1> tomreyn: yup.
[00:27] <pinheadmz1> wish i could get better errors
[00:28] <pinheadmz1> id also be happy with disabling systemd-resolve and just using a static resolv.conf
[00:28] <pinheadmz1> or network manager or whatever it is that overwrites resolv.conf on startup
[00:29] <blackhawk101> filifunky try update-alternatives
[00:29] <pinheadmz1> tomreyn: oh actually there is another message back in the log
[00:29] <pinheadmz1> Server returned error NXDOMAIN, mitigating potential DNS violation DVE-2018-0001, retrying transaction with reduced feature level UDP.
[00:29] <pinheadmz1> thats interesting
[00:31] <filifunky> blackhawk101 how do I use that, when i use update-alternatives I need to add something else to do something.  a bunch of commands
[00:31] <blackhawk101> filifunky: update-alternatives --list python
[00:32] <filifunky> blackhawk101 i get an error, no alternatives for python
[00:32] <tomreyn> pinheadmz1: i suggest you bring it up in #handshake, you won't be the first to run into this interoperability issue with systemd-resolve
[00:32] <pinheadmz1> tomreyn: haha, i run #handshake :-) im a core contirbutor
[00:32] <pinheadmz1> just not that used to ubuntu desktop
[00:33] <blogten> Jordan_U : verifying another hypothesis... I'm just seeing downgrades because of power management, and these are harmless
[00:33] <oerheks> filifunky, tons of guides about python 2.7 on 20.04 .. https://linuxconfig.org/install-python-2-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux
[00:33] <tomreyn> oh, well i don't think it's ubuntu *desktop* specific.
[00:33] <blackhawk101> filifunky: update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/python python /usr/bin/python2.7 1
[00:33] <JellyIsAwesome> noob question, but is it possible to setup a bouncer using an Ubuntu server?
[00:36] <oerheks> JellyIsAwesome, sure, znc
[00:36] <JellyIsAwesome> thanks oerheks
[00:37] <oerheks> there is a snap too https://snapcraft.io/install/znc-ondra/ubuntu
[00:38] <flyback> ./debian/rules editconfigs
[00:38] <flyback> make: *** No rule to make target 'editconfigs'.  Stop.
[00:38] <flyback> I am not the only one running into this
[00:40] <tomreyn> pinheadmz1: i guess i'd read the available freedesktop.org documentation, capture the traffic generated by systemd-resolve and compare it to other queries (e.g. by dig), and ensure handshakes' responses comply with with the relevant RFCs. if that's the case, you could probably file a bug against systemd-resolve (after investigating existing reports).
[00:40] <pinheadmz1> tomreyn: ty
[00:42] <oerheks> maybe a typo ? ./debian/rules editconfig
[00:42] <oerheks> -s
[00:42] <flyback> no
[00:42] <flyback> everyone else is runnin ginto the same problem
[00:43] <oerheks> This bug affects 1 person
[00:44] <flyback> not accordinf to google
[00:45] <flyback> ubuntu even acknowledged an issue
[00:46] <filifunky> hmmm...maybe I should go to my original problem.  When I run rednotebook I get this: https://pastebin.com/1b0ssugh
[00:46] <filifunky> when I try to install gi it says I'm already on the latest version
[00:46] <filifunky> is this even a python issue to begin with?
[00:49] <blackhawk101> filifunky: try reinstall pygobject3
[00:50] <filifunky> blackhawk101 ok
[00:51] <flyback> cut and paste right from the uCUNTu page on how to compile a kernel
[00:51] <bparker> ouch
[00:51] <tomreyn> !language | flyback
[00:55] <filifunky> I'm really showing my lack of knowledge here, but if I do sudo apt remove PyGObject3 it says it's unable to locate it...how do I do this? lol
 This bug affects 1 person
[00:55] <flyback> yeah Im sure that's in line with guidelines too
[00:56] <blackhawk101> filifunky maybe not installed!!
[00:57] <flyback> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[00:57] <flyback> Modifying the configuration
[00:57] <filifunky> blackhawk101, but when I do a pip list I can see it there?
[00:57] <flyback> so tell me genuius what does it say on that page
[00:59] <blackhawk101> filifunky : try this and see the result sudo apt-get install python3-gi
[00:59] <filifunky> blackhawk101 "python3-gi is already the newest version (3.36.0-1)"
[01:00] <filifunky> nothing installed to upgraded
[01:00] <filifunky> *or upgraded
[01:01] <blackhawk101> try this sudo apt-get install pkg-config libcairo2-dev gcc python3-dev libgirepository1.0-dev
[01:02] <blackhawk101> and after this pip install gobject PyGObject
[01:03] <filifunky> blackhawk101 did all of that and tried to run rednotebook and I get the same error
[01:03] <tomreyn> https://launchpad.net/~rednotebook/+archive/ubuntu/stable?field.series_filter=focal
[01:03] <filifunky> pygobject could not be imported: "cannot import name '_gi' from 'gi' (/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gi/__init__.py)". Please install it (python3-gi).
[01:04] <tomreyn> (as seen on https://rednotebook.app )
[01:07] <blackhawk101> filifunky rednotebook use PyYaml to?
[01:07] <filifunky> blackhawk101 hmmm I don't know what that is, how do I find out?
[01:09] <blackhawk101> filifunky : google it ,there is issue !
[01:10] <filifunky> blackhawk101 ok
[01:12] <farcas1982regreg> hello
[01:14] <farcas1982regreg> how do i open a wine executable by double clicking in latest ubuntu? i have installed wine but i have to manually open a terminal window. when i open in the file manager i can't seem to select a custom launcher. it presents a rather limited list of gui applications and i'm forced to select one of them
[01:49] <filifunky> hi so I try pip install gobject PyGObject and I get this error:  AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute '_home'
[01:49] <filifunky> anyone know what to do here?
[01:52] <matsaman> filifunky: you get that from the pip install output?
[01:52] <filifunky> matsaman yep
[01:53] <matsaman> filifunky: pip --version
[01:53] <filifunky> https://pastebin.com/5RC4xmDv
[01:53] <filifunky> matsaman ok
[01:53] <filifunky> same error!
[01:53] <filifunky> i have no home :(
[01:54] <filifunky> going to live on the stret
[01:54] <filifunky> street
[01:54] <matsaman> heh
[01:54] <matsaman> filifunky: you get _that_ error just from 'pip --version'?
[01:54] <filifunky> yep no attribute '_home' matsaman
[01:54] <matsaman> filifunky: what does 'type pip' say?
[01:55] <filifunky> pip is hashed (/home/pete/Environments/py2_env/bin/pip)
[01:55] <matsaman> okay
[01:55] <matsaman> could be that env is just boned
[01:55] <matsaman> know how to remake it?
[01:55] <filifunky> matsaman i know how to remove it and make a new one
[01:55] <filifunky> matsaman i'll give it a shot
[01:55] <matsaman> decent chance that will take care of it
[01:55] <matsaman> annoying to not know exactly why it broke, but these things happen
[01:55] <matsaman> with updates and the like
[01:57] <filifunky> matsaman wooo it works
[01:58] <matsaman> cool cool
[01:58] <filifunky> but now i get these errors when trying to install gobject PyGObject
[01:58] <matsaman> the way those environments work, of course, is that they're self contained, but they obviously still rely on your system-level python things ultimately
[01:58] <filifunky> ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement gobject (from versions: none)
[01:58] <filifunky> ERROR: No matching distribution found for gobject
[01:58] <matsaman> sometimes those system-level things change and break the envs
[01:58] <matsaman> filifunky: okay what's 'pip --version' now?
[01:59] <filifunky> pip 20.1.1 from /home/pete/Environments/py2_env/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pip (python 2.7)
[01:59] <matsaman> you mean to be using python 2?
[01:59] <filifunky> yeah
[01:59] <filifunky> I updated to the latest ubuntu which uses python 3...but then I couldn't run rednotebook...so trying to run python 2 and see if it works
[02:00] <matsaman> filifunky: I think that's a python2 issue
[02:00] <filifunky> so I learned today about these virtual environments
[02:00] <matsaman> like maybe there are no more py2 packages for gobject/etc., or maybe there never were, or maybe they have different names, etc.
[02:00] <matsaman> in the most former case, you could probably track them down
[02:01] <filifunky> matsaman, hmmm oh ok
[02:01] <matsaman> filifunky: I get a deprecation notice along with those two error msgs
[02:02] <filifunky> yeah I got that too
[02:02] <matsaman> looks like gobject only, though, not PyGObject
[02:03] <matsaman> so I'm wondering if 'gobject' was ever a package for python2
[02:05] <tomreyn> rednotebook is python3 nowadays. i posted a PPA link which contains builds for focal (which filifunky is running) a while ago here. the build logs confirm it.
[02:05] <matsaman> pypi is case insenstive, btw, so 'pygobject' should work fine
[02:05] <filifunky> tomreyn oh ok, i looked at that briefly but will try harder
[02:16] <filifunky> tomreyn ok, I added those ppa entries to my sources.list.  That didn't change anything I still get the error when trying to run it.  I did the install of rednotebook at the top of that page and it said I already have it.  I don't know what to do
[02:17] <filifunky> any pointers?
[02:18] <filifunky> tomreyn should i get rid of it and reinstall it?
[02:18] <tomreyn> filifunky: the PPA provides a pre-built  rednotebook package. after adding the PPA as documented on the page i pointed you to you'd install the package using    sudo apt install rednotebook
[02:19] <filifunky> tomreyn ok it says i already have it so maybe its just screwed in a way that I should just remove it then reinstall?
[02:19] <tomreyn> filifunky: if you still prefer building this software, which is not part of ubuntu, and thus not really a support topic here, yourself, you could try to understand how thie packaghe in this PPa is being built by inspecting its build log at https://launchpadlibrarian.net/478204585/buildlog_ubuntu-focal-amd64.rednotebook_2.19-0~202005040933~ubuntu20.04.1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[02:19] <tomreyn> filifunky: i don't know what you have or don't have and what "it" is
[02:21] <tomreyn> if you can't install a package successfully using apt, then please provide the full output
[02:21] <tomreyn> !paste
[03:05] <thongpv87> I can not get bluetooth working on my laptop. When I run `scan on` in bluetoothctl shell, it show me `No default controller available`
[03:12] <flyback> dmesg | grep -i bluetooth
[03:12] <flyback> to start with
[03:12] <flyback> make sure a actual controller was picked u p
[03:13] <flyback> oh he left bah
[03:22] <metbsd> ubuntu too many bugs
[03:22] <metbsd> always crash
[03:23] <tomreyn> do you have a support question?
[03:23] <metbsd> yes
[03:24] <tomreyn> then asking this is preferred over the above
[03:24] <metbsd> blueman crashes
[03:24] <metbsd> all the time
[03:24] <metbsd> blueman-manager
[03:24] <tomreyn> i don't see a question, nor !details
[03:25] <metbsd> ProblemType is crash
[03:36] <chaotix> hi.  im using ubuntu 16.04.  I am using a samsung TX-T2793H SlimFit - 27" CRT  as my monitor via hdmi.  there is too much overscan and none of the supplied display resolutions work.  after all day, trying several solutions, mostly involving xrandr, including trying to manually add resolutions, i am finally very close. ..  i have found that the
[03:36] <chaotix> transfor4m property in xrandr is what works, but im having troubnle with what to set it as...  here is the heplful tutorial i am using from the arch wiki
[03:36] <chaotix> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xrandr#Correction_of_overscan_tv_resolutions_via_--transform
[03:37] <chaotix> can someone help me figure out the right numbers to put in?  i dont really understand what they do
[03:39] <chaotix> can someone herte who is fmailliar with xrandr command and the --transform feature help? thtere are 3 valies, the x, the y and the w or width.  i need to know what to set them to to make it fit on this tv
[04:18] <astropirate> I have a Lenovo Thinkpad X1 gen2  and I (stupidly) clicked on the update button for the Lenovo firmware in the ubuntu software center. Ubuntu can't detect my wifi device any longer
[04:18] <astropirate> I'm running the laptop off the Ubuntu flashdrive, and that too is unable to detect the wifi device
[04:19] <astropirate> This happened after i succesfully restarted the laptop and the firmware/bios updates went through
[04:36] <astropirate> wtf.... it just started workin
[04:51] <kinghat> df -h says / is using 100% but ncdu says the system is using 8gb
[04:51] <kinghat> (out of 20)
[04:52] <kinghat> my file manager says  theres only 100mb left as well
[04:52] <kinghat> not sure whats up
[04:55] <kinghat> /dev/sda1        19G   18G  163M 100% /
[07:10] <blogten> lotuspsychje hi, are you available for a few questions?
[07:12] <matsaman> lotus|NUC: four max
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> blogten matsaman nop :p
[07:34] <matsaman> I'm gonna take advantage of my typo and say: yop
[07:34] <matsaman> oh you're one of those multi-nick people!
[07:35] <blogten> hi lotuspsychje, I'm trying to track down an error message during boot.  I can't find it in any logs, I was wondering if you could give me a hint as to where to look?
[07:36] <viktor_> does anybody know why i fail to mount my samba share in the home server?
[07:36] <viktor_> Password for viktor@//192.168.1.35/mnt/md/backuparray/backupviktor:  ***********
[07:36] <viktor_> mount error(13): Permission denied
[07:36] <viktor_> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
[07:42] <matsaman> if your password is a traditional dumb password with all sorts of dumb special chars, you might need to escape certain chars in it
[07:45] <blogten> so, during boot time, I see in passing a message about ln failing to do something about an lvm volume.  this does not result in any observable issue with the volume, which later mounts automatically (because it's listed in fstab by UUID).  strangely, the error message is not anywhere I can see (e.g. grep through /var/log does not find anything).
[07:45] <blogten> the message is on the screen for just a moment, it seems to point to somewhere in /run or /tmp (of course, grep finds nothing there either).  the problem seems to be that ln for some reason tries a path with two consecutive slashes, '//', in something related to a hook script for the volume.  where should I look for this?
[07:46] <viktor_> matsaman: on being prompted?
[07:47] <matsaman> blogten: https://askubuntu.com/questions/64612/where-can-i-find-a-log-of-the-information-shown-at-boot-splash
[07:49] <blogten> matsaman: there's nothing interesting in /var/log/boot.log (the article is 8 years old, there is no /etc/default/bootlogd, and yet boot.log is getting updated)
[07:50] <matsaman> pause/break key might work
[07:51] <blogten> there's also the phone, for sure.  I'd just like to figure out where that reference might be coming from anyway.  where would LVM hook scripts live?
[07:52] <blogten> (tried duckduckgo, no luck yet)
[07:52] <matsaman> blogten: like this? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1235344/boot-error-with-lvm-no-such-file-or-directory
[07:53] <blogten> if it's not identical, it's very very close
[07:53] <blogten> thanks, will look
[07:54] <blogten> ... wrong partition, huh?...
[07:56] <matsaman> blogten: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/479534077/0001-Use-specified-target-name-for-mountroot-failure-hook.patch ?
[07:58] <blogten> oh yeah, look at that
[07:59] <blogten> just noted a month ago
[07:59] <blogten> thanks for the link matsaman , it looks like Ubuntu should pick that up soon
[08:01] <blogten> yeah, I couldn't find anything about a wrong partition in /etc/fstab
[08:06]  * matsaman shrugs
[08:11] <SirNapkin1334> hello. i came from #lubuntu as i was recommended here by a guy who ran out of ideas (he did help me make some progress though). i have a live & persistent lubuntu usb, and i checked the iso, it's fine. used rufus to install. check disc in the lubuntu installer also says that everything is good. however, when I try to "try lubuntu" it only shows the lubuntu gui loading screen for a moment,...
[08:11] <SirNapkin1334> ...then it kicks me to a shel
[08:11] <SirNapkin1334> ash shell i think
[08:11] <SirNapkin1334> also, the shell is extremely bugged; ctrl+c doesn't work
[08:12] <SirNapkin1334> exit also doesn't work; the first time you run it it fails and the second time you run it it crashes the pc with a kernal panic
[08:12] <SirNapkin1334> this is a pc with no gpu btw, just using integrated / onboard graphics. no internal disk either, which is why i'm doing persistence
[08:12] <matsaman> SirNapkin1334: what's your overall goal? Installing Lubuntu?
[08:13] <SirNapkin1334> well, using it from persistent storage
[08:13] <SirNapkin1334> this is not a permanent setup. i'm just testing something
[08:13] <SirNapkin1334> *some stuff
[08:13] <matsaman> ok
[08:13] <SirNapkin1334> also i have nothing to install lubuntu to, lol. no spare external drives that aren't sd/usb flash
[08:14] <CQ2> SirNapkin1334, if oyu want to experiement, install it to a VirtualBox VM maybe?
[08:14] <SirNapkin1334> no, i'm testing it on the hardware
[08:14] <SirNapkin1334> it's just that lubuntu is the most lightweight thing I can find that has a GUI
[08:14] <blogten> nvidia card?
[08:14] <SirNapkin1334> no card
[08:14] <matsaman> you can install to USB
[08:14] <matsaman> all storage is just storage to GNU/Linux
[08:15] <SirNapkin1334> yes but i heard installing to USB was not very good
[08:15] <matsaman> it's fine
[08:15] <matsaman> anyway what version of Lubuntu?
[08:15] <SirNapkin1334> hmm. so i would just put lubuntu installer on ad rive, and plug in another usb and install it onto that?
[08:15] <SirNapkin1334> 18.04.4-desktop
[08:16] <matsaman> you could, yes, although that would still require the installer to work
[08:16] <matsaman> however
[08:16] <matsaman> you can get a Lubuntu install from almost any Ubuntu installer
[08:16] <SirNapkin1334> yeah, the installer was bugging out too
[08:16] <matsaman> it's basically just a package set
[08:16] <SirNapkin1334> hm.
[08:16] <matsaman> 'lubuntu-desktop', IIRC
[08:16] <SirNapkin1334> my computer only has 1024MB of ram though, so an install would have to be mindful of that
[08:16] <matsaman> probably easier to consume if you install Ubuntu with no DE, then install lubuntu-desktop, rather than installing Ubuntu with a desktop and replacing it
[08:17] <matsaman> I don't think the installer will care how much ram you have
[08:17] <SirNapkin1334> how would i go about doing that? just get an ubuntu server installer and then install the dekstop packages?
[08:17] <matsaman> you could try lubuntu-19
[08:17] <matsaman> for an easy trial of simply another version
[08:18] <matsaman> SirNapkin1334: maybe, let's see...
[08:18] <matsaman> SirNapkin1334: maybe the 'minimal' version: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[08:18] <matsaman> I'm sure using the server version would also work, but you might have to do a fair amount of reconfiguring
[08:18] <SirNapkin1334> ah okay i'm not up for that lol
[08:19] <matsaman> probably you can do the minimal, and
[08:19] <matsaman> either don't install a DE, then install lubuntu-desktop
[08:19] <matsaman> or if it offers Lubuntu as an option, you could try that and it might work
[08:19] <SirNapkin1334> okay so i can just install that to a usb or somthing and then install it to another usb plugged into the computer?
[08:19] <matsaman> if it's what I think it is, it's a cli/TUI installer, so it likely won't encounter the graphics problem you're encountering now
[08:20] <matsaman> yeah if you've got two
[08:20] <matsaman> technically you can do it with one USB stick and install to the same one, but that's a little less straightforward
[08:20] <SirNapkin1334> oh dear, should i pick PC or PowerPC installer?
[08:20] <matsaman> um, probably amd64
[08:20] <matsaman> SirNapkin1334: what's the processor?
[08:20] <SirNapkin1334> this computer has a pentium m 770 from 2005
[08:20] <SirNapkin1334> i'm not picking x64
[08:21] <matsaman> good call
[08:21] <matsaman> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[08:21] <SirNapkin1334> where can i find the sha?
[08:21] <matsaman> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[08:21] <matsaman> under 32-bit PC
[08:22] <matsaman> a2a3b9c952ffa774ef77974e4e98ed5a9cdba2c8
[08:24] <seven-eleven> hi
[08:24] <matsaman> heyo
[08:24] <seven-eleven> is it a bad idea to use unattended-upgrades? should I better do this manually?
[08:24]  * matsaman shrugs
[08:24] <CQ2> seven-eleven, I would definitely do it for security updates.
[08:25] <seven-eleven> hmmm
[08:25] <CQ2> More depends on if you are running a critical server or a simple desktp
[08:25] <matsaman> if your manual upgrade process involves testing that the system will work after the upgrade but before you execute the upgrade (that is, with a secondary copy of the install)
[08:25] <matsaman> then that's pretty cool
[08:25] <matsaman> but most people don't do that
[08:25] <CQ2> for a critical server you probably want to do it manually, for a desktop you can do it automatically
[08:25] <matsaman> so the only question is whether you're going to feel bad if something breaks with an unattended upgrade while you're not readily available
[08:25] <matsaman> or not
[08:26] <seven-eleven> i see, so maybe i should remove it from my critical server then
[08:26] <seven-eleven> because i noticed my computer reboots sometimes out of nowhere and reading the logs i suspect unattended-upgrade to cause the reboot
[08:26] <matsaman> hrmm, not familiar with it enough
[08:27] <matsaman> wouldn't use for critical server, no
[08:27] <seven-eleven> there's an option to disable it "Unattended-Upgrade::Automatic-Reboot "false";" but if I disable i need a notification to know when I should reboot or maybe I should reboot every month, but then I can also do upgrades manually
[08:28] <matsaman> you need to keep track of available upgrades, yes
[08:28] <seven-eleven> best option would be to keep using it but get a notification when a reboot has been done :-)
[08:28] <matsaman> sounds like something that would be in an Ubuntu server faq
[08:29] <seven-eleven> yeah im gonna go dig in their then
[08:29] <seven-eleven> because my computer can't reboot automatically due to LUKS passphrases
[08:33] <matsaman> well you wouldn't want it to on a server regardless
[08:33] <seven-eleven> matsaman, i found a solution https://askubuntu.com/a/540973
[08:34] <seven-eleven> if it's only security upgrades I'm fine with having it automatically
[08:34] <matsaman> gj
[08:41] <SirNapkin1334> alright
[08:41] <SirNapkin1334> i finally wrote mini.iso
[08:41] <SirNapkin1334> so, that will install no gui by default?
[08:43] <SirNapkin1334> ah wait cmd install
[08:44] <SirNapkin1334> hmm
[08:44] <SirNapkin1334> wtf
[08:44] <SirNapkin1334> whenever i put in the network password
[08:44] <SirNapkin1334> it just goes back to the select network menu
[08:44] <SirNapkin1334> of the installer
[08:47] <SirNapkin1334_> matsaman: alright, i got it workig
[08:48] <SirNapkin1334_> sorry about the disonnection, windows randomly disconnected my wifi
[08:48] <SirNapkin1334_> i'm suspecting that maybe the wifi card is broken
[08:48] <SirNapkin1334_> it's 1:48, i think i will continue this endeavor in the morning
[10:36] <OERIAS> hi peeps
[10:37] <OERIAS> I need help with a screen saver issue
[11:24] <OERIAS> hello?
[11:26] <iLogic> sup OERIAS
[11:26] <oerheks> who uses screensavers these days?
[11:26] <OERIAS> oerheks, I do
[11:27] <iLogic> whose screen needs saving?
[11:27] <OERIAS> someone who is using a CRT
[11:27] <iLogic> dayum dats og
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> do we have an ubuntu question?
[11:28] <iLogic> lotuspsychje: do you know what ubuntu means?
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> iLogic: lets discuss that in #ubuntu-discuss
[11:28] <admin0> anyone here uses vagrant/virtualbox on ubuntu ?
[11:29] <admin0> i want to know how to specify a bridge name in vagrantfile
[11:30] <admin0> if my bridge is br0, node.vm.network "public_network", bridge: [ "br0: br0"], or just [ "br0"] does not seem to work
[11:39] <kreyren> What is the onion mirror for ubuntu sources?
[11:40] <oerheks> i hope there is not.
[11:40] <kreyren> oerheks, why
[11:41] <oerheks> what have you found sofar?
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> download anonym packages :p
[12:17] <fabbo> https://developer.gnome.org/glib/stable/glib-running.html says "GLib ships with a set of Python macros for the GDB debugger". Is there a way to have them on Focal?
[12:17] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:20] <Severs> morning
[12:28] <frad> if I open a terminal and execute any command that requires my password, it now takes 5 seconds for the command to prompt me for the password. This happens only after I upgraded to 20.04. I fstrimmed yesterday after moving a ton of files and this issue still occurs. What other factors could explain it?
[12:40] <tomreyn> frad: bad configurations or broken resolvers configured in /etc/resolv.conf, /bad records in /etc/hosts
[12:46] <frad> lazing on a sunday afternoon...
[12:47] <BluesKaj> frad, check your DNS with sudo resolvectl status
[13:13] <nbusrone> Anyone install gnome tweak on 20.04 ? did anyone notice there a some option missing ? and error ?
[13:16] <matsaman> nbusrone: what?
[13:17] <nbusrone> matsaman : https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/CD7phfqCHS/
[13:18] <matsaman> nbusrone: is that stopping you from accomplishing something?
[13:21] <nbusrone> matsaman : I can't select anything , except I full screen , some option are missing like extension even I install gnome-tweak-extension
[13:22] <nbusrone> GNOME Shell 3.36.2
[13:24] <tomreyn> post a screenshot showing something that's missing
[13:25] <tomreyn> and discuss which gnome extensions and other potentially relevant customizations you made. also, whether this system was upgraded from an earlier ubuntu release (or is a fresh install).
[13:25] <nbusrone> tomreyn : which screen shot website is suitable ?
[13:31] <pavlos> https://imgur.com/a/KAaunFq
[13:34] <nbusrone> tomreyn : https://imgur.com/sPLlnfO compare to https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-gnome-shell-extensions-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[13:37] <CoDeAmRo> hey guys i am connecting my computer via hotspot with my phone but when i use vpn it dont connect
[13:38] <CoDeAmRo> i want to hide my ip address can anyone help
[13:39] <nbusrone> tomreyn : I do not get the result showing extensions  https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-gnome-shell-extensions-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux-desktop
[13:46] <tomreyn> nbusrone: try with a new user account
[13:48] <matsaman> CodeLyoko: on which device are you trying to use the vpn client?
[13:50] <mnabid> nbusrone: There is an "Extensions" app from where u can enable extensions.
[13:51] <seven-eleven> how can I set XDG RUNTIME DIR variable automatically on login in ubuntu?
[13:52] <seven-eleven> for some ubuntus im running it's set automatically, but for others it isn't, and I don't know why :|
[14:00] <nbusrone> mnabid , tomreyn : fix it , i install gnome flashback which cause the extension missing but the gtk error still present.
[14:03] <nbusrone> mnabid , tomreyn : Gnome flashback still have bug , i can't right click to copy or create a new folder at desktop. Anyway thanks :)
[14:08] <nbusrone> Does anyone about this instruction after doing Cmake means ?  " Restart ubuntu, open "tweaks" to customize. "  https://askubuntu.com/questions/1232539/how-to-install-netspeed-in-ubuntu-20-04 I can't find the tweak
[14:12] <BluesKaj> nbusrone, install gnome-tweak-tools if you use gnome desktop
[14:13] <mnabid> *gnome-tweak-tool
[14:13] <BluesKaj> yeah
[14:13] <chull> how can i get rid of the sidebar in gedit?
[14:14] <mnabid> chull: from "Preferences"
[14:14] <chull> mnabid, oh thanks let me look
[14:17] <mnabid> nbusrone: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pc-freak.net/blog/linux-gnome-flashback-missing-desktop-icons-howto-fix/amp/
[14:19] <chull> mnabid, thank you :)
[14:20] <mnabid> chull: glad to help :)
[14:47] <nbusrone> mnabid : thanks for the Link, my problem really related with gnome flashback , desktop unable to arrange create files and gtk error on gnome tweak.Hopefully i request is  the same as the link hoping it will be solve and fix. How do I report for error ?
[15:07] <StupidLikeAFox> So, having an issue trying to use xubuntu 18.04.3 LTS LiveUSB to image a windows machine and not sure why it isn't working
[15:09] <ikonia> give details then
[15:09] <StupidLikeAFox> "sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=/media/xubuntu/<uuid>/foo.img" returns the error "dd: failed to open '/media/xubuntu/<uuid>/foo.img': Read-only file system"
[15:09] <ikonia> can you write to that mount point ?
[15:11] <StupidLikeAFox> sda is a drive with misc partitions as windows saw fit to make for itself, the drive I listed just has a large BTRFS partition on it, made with gparted from this usb stick earlier
[15:11] <ikonia> no
[15:11] <ikonia> can you mount to /media/xubuntu/$uuid
[15:12] <StupidLikeAFox> I don't think I follow then- I made the parition myself, and that's where it showed up when I mounted it
[15:13] <StupidLikeAFox> I'm sure I'm overlooking something basic here.
[15:13] <ikonia> so there is the problem
[15:13] <ikonia> you can't write to the target....why ?
[15:13] <ikonia> whatis' mount there, what is the file system, what is the permissions on that file system, why can't you write to the target file system
[15:15] <StupidLikeAFox> it looks like live user, the group xubuntu, and others all have read/write access- and in thunar I can copy one of the meta files off it, but not paste a file in
[15:15] <Sergiu> ubuntu-server
[15:15] <ikonia> what do you mean it looks like the live user
[15:16] <ikonia> you're using sudo to act as the root user
[15:16] <ikonia> so I ask again a.) what is mounted on that mount point b.) what is the file system c.) what is the permisions
[15:17] <StupidLikeAFox> the drive with a btfrs partion on it, read+write for all users it looks like
[15:23] <pavlos> mount | grep media
[15:29] <nael_n> A very old laptop of mine cannot boot from USB, PXE, and its optical drive is dead. I'm trying to install 20.04 on it. Since it can only boot from its internal HDD, I've removed its HDD, prepared a partition with the 20.04 ISO on it, and now I'm trying to install GRUB on the HDD, so that when I boot with the disk back into the old laptop, I can
[15:29] <nael_n> point GRUB to the 20.04 ISO, and GRUB will boot it. But I'm not sure how to install GRUB on a disk... Right now it's connected to my newer laptop over a USB-to-SATA adapter. Is it just "sudo grub-install /dev/sdb"?
[15:31] <nael_n> I really don't want to mess up my laptop's GRUB by mistake. I just want to install GRUB to what is an external HDD, from the point of view of my laptop.
[15:42] <floogy> Hi, I got a device which may gets too old and therefor unreliable. What do you think on clearing errors in zpool status? Will they get avoided in zfs despite one will clear the errors? https://bpa.st/S6IA
[15:42] <hyppaface> how can i become an admin of a (different) channel on freenode? is it possible?
[15:43] <akem> hyppaface, Ask on #freenode instead.
[15:43] <hyppaface> ty
[15:45] <floogy> smartmontools are not working good on the SAMSUNG hd400ld (targa, lidl, jmicron prolific PL2507)  external usb drive. https://bpa.st/VKXA
[15:48] <floogy> I currently try to get the bad blocks on that drive and eventually try to do a btrfsck on the btrfs pool. floogy@ubuntu-SSD1:~$ time sudo badblocks -n /dev/sdk
[15:48] <nael_n> Do I need an EFI manager on my external hard disk's EFI System Partition before I install GRUB to that external hard disk? I didn't think about that
[16:09] <INSANU> is there any official ppa for lunarg (vulkan, etc) packages?
[16:10] <ikonia> define official
[16:10] <INSANU> https://packages.lunarg.com/ <- this mentions ubuntu 18 and 16. I am hoping there is a ubuntu 20 as well
[16:11] <ikonia> INSANU: so talk to the maintainers
[16:12] <INSANU> I don't know exactly how can I contact them. I tought would be easier asking here haha. Do you have this packages yourself?
[16:12] <ikonia> why would it be easier here
[16:12] <ikonia> people in here have nothing to do with that repo
[16:13] <ikonia> https://www.lunarg.com/contact/
[16:14] <sonicwind> join #lotuscomputers
[16:14] <INSANU> there is 1268 people in the channel, which I believe a part of it play games in linux. Why wouldn't be a good place to ask this?
[16:14] <sonicwind> oops
[16:14] <Deano59> lol
[16:14] <ikonia> INSANU: because even if they play games, they won't be the maintainer/developer of that repo
[16:15] <INSANU> but people may know about it anyways, since they may have installed the package on their system in order to play games =D
[16:15] <ikonia> just contact the maintainer, ask them when the Ubuntu 20.X packages will be offered
[16:16] <INSANU> so, let me ask a different question. Hey guys, do you guys use any other ppa than the lunarg one to get the vulkan sdk?
[16:17] <ikonia> no
[16:17] <INSANU> not talking to you bud
[16:17] <ikonia> you're asking the channel
[16:17] <ikonia> I'm responding telling you I don't
[16:17] <ikonia> why don't you just contact the maintainer
[16:35] <tatertots> lol
[16:36] <Deano59> XD funny.
[17:17] <frad> can I use htop to know what process is running 10 MiB of my ram?
[18:18] <electricityZZZZ> having trouble copying photos from my iphone to my ubuntu 20 machine, any advice?
[18:19] <pavlos> frad: top 5 memory processes ... ps -eo pmem,pcpu,vsize,pid,cmd | sort -k 1 -nr | head -5
[18:19] <quadrathoch2> electricityZZZZ make sure you have a mtp package installed
[18:19] <electricityZZZZ> what is the precise package name?
[18:20] <electricityZZZZ> is it mtp-tools?
[18:22] <tomreyn> this may be libmtp9
[18:22] <nael_n> OK I think I've got the command to install GRUB and the EFI binary to an external hard drive, wish me luck, I'm going all in: sudo grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/mnt/efi-system-partition --boot-directory=/mnt/system/boot --removable. I've got a good feeling about it. What could possibly go wrong?
[18:23] <frad> pavlos, is 'ps -eo pmem,pcpu,vsize,pid,cmd | sort -k 1 -nr | head -5' a command?
[18:24] <pavlos> frad, yes, from a terminal, htop has sort by and filter
[18:24] <frad> thanks
[18:24] <electricityZZZZ> Unhandled error: The name 1.265 was not handled by any .service files
[18:24] <quadrathoch2> nael_n when your other system is as old as you meantioned, it shouldn't be using efi
[18:24] <electricityZZZZ> i installed mpt-tools
[18:25] <electricityZZZZ> mtp-tools, pardon
[18:25] <quadrathoch2> hm did you test as tomreyn suggested libmtp9?
[18:26] <electricityZZZZ> i installed gmtp. i'll try libmtp9 now.
[18:26] <tomreyn> mtp-tools depends on the library, so this should be fine
[18:26] <nael_n> quadrathoch2: it does, it was one of the first ones, as a matter of fact. 2008. But it's a wonky, incomplete implementation, not UEFI 2.x. I expect my efforts to be in vain, and have to revert to BIOS compatibility mode
[18:27] <electricityZZZZ> libmtp9 is already installed and the newest version, 1.1.17-3
[18:27] <electricityZZZZ> it was "working better" before i installed mtp stuff. i managed to transfer one file,... and then got problems after that
[18:30] <tomreyn> and those problems are?
[18:30] <coffeecow> After updates on my AVR and updates in Ubuntu I come back home to find that I can no longer connect to my AVR without bluetoothd segfault'ing. .. i can trust, pair in bluetoothctl, but when i connect it leads to a segfault. :(
[18:31] <coffeecow> i was gone for a few months not sure if there was a major update that drastically changed things between then
[18:34] <stan_man_can> Hi. I installed 20.04 and used the "experimental ZFS on root partition" option. I installed it to a 120GB SSD. I have plugged another 250GB SSD into the system. Is there any way for me to add it so it's one big storage block?
[18:35] <quadrathoch2> stan_man_can with zfs that's not possible
[18:35] <quadrathoch2> except you add another vdev, but then it's not in the same block
[18:35] <quadrathoch2> (as far as I understand you)
[18:35] <stan_man_can> so I can't just expand the main "drive" ?
[18:35] <quadrathoch2> no
[18:36] <quadrathoch2> that's one of the big negatives about zfs
[18:36] <stan_man_can> i kinda thought that was the purpse of ZFS
[18:36] <stan_man_can> lol
[18:36] <stan_man_can> guess i should have checked first
[18:37] <stan_man_can> so once a vdev is setup it can't be expanded?
[18:40] <quadrathoch2> stan_man_can yes
[18:44] <electricityZZZZ> ok so i installed ifuse and libimobiledevice, generally following this guide, and everything worked: https://evanwill.github.io/_drafts/notes/iphone-transfer.html
[18:48] <quadrathoch2> electricityZZZZ thanks for coming back and explaining :) hope other people are helped that way
[19:09] <CoolerX> E: Unable to locate package gcsfuse
[19:10] <CoolerX> on ubuntu 18.04
[19:10] <CoolerX> help
[19:10] <CoolerX> oh I found it
[19:10] <CoolerX> https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/gcsfuse/blob/master/docs/installing.md#linux
[19:42] <ice9> when I live booting ubuntu 20.04, the keyboard works only in the "activities" search but doesn't work at all in the gnome-terminal/gedit/firefox etc..; any idea?
[19:44] <KSK_Nico> Can someone help me out? I upgraded from Ubuntu 18 to Ubuntu 20.04, now I don't have a working gnome enviroment when I boot.
[20:20] <brillopad> Hi all! Just installed Ubuntu 20.04 on my MacBook Pro 15" (has a GeForce 750 GT) When I tried to change the display scaling in the Display options, the screen went off. Restarting the laptop, as soon as I log in the screen goes completely black. I could get to the recovery console but that was it. Couldn't even get to a TTY console with CTRL + ALT + F1-F4
[20:20] <brillopad> Reinstalled Ubuntu and about to change the setting again. Any way to reset from the recovery console if it goes badly wrong? Thanks!
[20:20] <cow0w> Hi:) you think nexus is a good solution to host an ubuntu apt mirror ?
[20:27] <xbfrog> who in this room said i was not a beginner? no bone to pick, just curious?
[20:27] <xbfrog> sorry forgot to add a smile:)
[20:31] <oerheks> cow0w, sure, put in a 2 Tb sdcard .. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[20:32] <oerheks> 1.1TB of disk space for the Ubuntu package archive. 23GB for Ubuntu release CD images.
[20:33] <cow0w> cool:) just wondering if sonatype nexus is a good place to use this. (will be used to mirror for "offline" network)
[20:41] <relipse> why is this happening https://i.imgur.com/aOqkP9h.png
[20:44] <JellyIsAwesome> hi, i'm new to ubuntu, does anyone have any resources for ubuntu server?
[20:49] <oerheks> https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/tutorial-install-ubuntu-server & https://ubuntu.com/server/docs are a good start
[20:52] <Bashing-om> JellyIsAwesome: Have you seen: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/git.html ? Also there are extensive guides on https://community.ubuntu.com/ .
[21:00] <Guest43863> Hi,
[21:01] <Guest43863> I am running 18.04 on matebook d 14 and I don't see any fan info in 'sensors' output. Any idea how to get some info on fan activity?
[21:17] <sorcerer> is there an option somewhere to re-add the default desktop icons instead of a blank desktop or do i have to create new application links to everything?
[21:19] <Bashing-om> sorcerer: Which release and desktop environment do you have ?
[21:20] <sorcerer> plasma, 20.04
[21:21] <Bashing-om> sorcerer: Not real sure about KDE, but, try sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop .
[21:27] <davido_> On my laptop, my touchpad requires a mechanical click to make selections before I'm logged in. Once I log in, a finger tap works. How can I resolve making my setting global?
[21:30] <danilom> hI, anyone can tell how to fix a pause printing in cups? i have a p3015 HP LaserJet, and when printing a pdf, make a pause every 2 pages, no error log showed, printing is fine, so the pause is the issue, didnt see any thing related to spool, any clue?
[21:42] <JellyIsAwesome> .
[21:46] <mnabid> davido_: see if this works http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2019/04/enable-tap-clicking-ubuntu-19-04-gnome-login-screen/
[22:16] <Sven_vB> What's the default graphical text editor in the Xubuntu and Lubuntu live DVDs?
[22:16] <Sven_vB> +current
[22:17] <JoeBk> I reinstalled ubuntu now ubuntu software won't open from my account but will from other accounts.  any clue?
[22:19] <Bashing-om> Sven_vB: xubuntu: mousepad ; lubuntu: leafpad .
[22:19] <Sven_vB> Bashing-om, thanks!
[22:20] <Sven_vB> Bashing-om, do you know if Lubuntu uses the snap edition of leafpad, or to they still provide traditional deb repos?
[22:21] <Sven_vB> *do
[22:22] <Bashing-om> Sven_vB: Yep ! see: snap find leafpad .
[22:22] <Sven_vB> Bashing-om, thanks again!
[22:23] <krytarik> Sven_vB, Bashing-om: Since the switch to LXQt, that's currently FeatherPad for Lubuntu though.
[22:23] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Thanks for that update! Sven_vB ^^,
[22:24] <Sven_vB> then I'll have a look at featherpad, too. :) thanks!
[22:27] <transhumanist> hi! anyone can suggest a way to access your own webserver I used to use hidemyass.com but seems they no longer offer you to access a url from their site. This problem has to do with NAT reflection. thanks
[22:30] <catharsis> #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:32] <catharsis> LoL I won't leave the channel out of embarrasment :-/ I'm learning! :)
[22:36] <Bashing-om> catharsis: ^ reason why this channel exists - we are all "learning" :D
[22:40] <catharsis> Bashing-om: That's true! It's a great place to learn for sure!
[22:53] <davido_> how do I make my touchpad settings work for all users?