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callmepkgood morning01:14
dufluMorning callmepk 01:37
callmepkmorning duflu , how is your weekend going?01:41
duflucallmepk, it's Monday but the weekend was good. You?01:41
callmepkPretty good01:42
jibelmorning all03:37
dufluHi jibel (!?)03:43
jibelHello duflu 03:57
seb128goood morning desktopers05:51
dufluHi seb128 05:51
jibelsalut seb128 05:51
dufluI can see you more clearly in 4K now05:52
dufluPity everything is stuttering, but I will figure that out...05:53
seb128hey duflu, ricotz, jibel, how are you? had a good w.e?05:56
dufluseb128, still pretty quiet and isolated. Only saw family. You?05:57
jibelit's been a nice w-e. My daughter's birthday party on Saturday, bicycle ride yesterday and still unboxing and mounting furniture.05:58
jibelI'd enjoy a bit more sleep though05:58
seb128duflu, saturday was nice, great weather and we walked around for a bit, yesterday was grey and a bit borring, we are still not seeing much people nor doing much outside :/05:59
seb128jibel, ah nice :)05:59
jibelseb128, are coworking spaces open in NL? I'm starting to really miss it. 06:01
seb128I think they can reopen if they respect the 1.5m rule etc but I didn't go check if the local one is reopen yet06:03
seb128but yeah, that has been long enough, I would welcome going outside; seeing people and not be day and nights in the same place06:05
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers, happy Monday!06:18
dufluHi oSoMoN 06:22
oSoMoNhey duflu 06:22
ricotzhey oSoMoN duflu seb128 jibel 06:28
dufluMorning ricotz 06:29
didrocksgood morning07:13
marcustomlinsonmorning desktoppers07:18
dufluHi didrocks and marcustomlinson 07:19
didrockshey marcustomlinson, duflu 07:21
marcustomlinsonjibel: you’re in NL now?07:22
oSoMoNgood morning ricotz, didrocks, marcustomlinson 07:23
marcustomlinsonhey duflu didrocks oSoMoN07:25
didrockssalut oSoMoN 07:27
* duflu just discovered you can set high DPI console fonts in VTs. That's nice07:44
jibelmarcustomlinson, no, I'm still in France in Brittany07:46
seb128lut didrocks, oSoMoN, hey marcustomlinson, how are you? good w.e?07:52
seb128didrocks, thx for the libnma mir review!07:54
didrocksseb128: yw :)07:59
marcustomlinsonhey seb128, pretty good thanks. looks like the restrictions will be eased enough this week for me to visit my parents next week :)08:01
marcustomlinsonthe grandparents are really missing their new grandchild!08:02
Laneymoin08:03
marcustomlinsonhey Laney08:03
Laneywhat up MT08:04
didrockshey Laney 08:04
dufluHi Laney08:05
Laneyhttps://twitter.com/BBCNottingham/status/1272439418792673281 😳08:06
Laneymoin didrocks & duflu!08:06
seb128hey Laney, how was the long w.e?08:16
WimpressMorning desktoppers08:33
marcustomlinsonhi Wimpress08:33
WimpressHey marcustomlinson o/08:34
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dufluHi Wimpress 08:45
oSoMoNhey seb128, Laney, Wimpress 08:48
didrocksHEY Wimpress 08:50
didrockswithout capslock works as well :p08:50
Laneysup seb128 Wimpress 08:51
Laneyweekend was nice, went and explored a hidden abandoned tunnel https://photos.app.goo.gl/iarczD2hDyUv2Q57A08:52
Laneytoo scared to go in though, will have to come back not alone08:52
seb128hehe; wise choice09:06
luna_i was on a boat: https://imgur.com/a/b7rn9O109:08
xnoxLaney:  jibel: https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/385566 https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/385607 https://code.launchpad.net/~xnox/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/385614 I'd appreciate for your input on which way ubiquity should be managed going forward. I think over focal/groovy cycles you are the top two committers, so the new style workflow12:21
xnoxshould be easy for you two. Whichever one we pick.12:21
Laneyok I will try building it and see how it goes12:24
Laney(subtrees if possible)12:24
oSoMoNseb128, I filed a bug for the blobandconquer ppc64el FTBFS, and attached a debdiff to it: bug #188352212:44
ubot5bug 1883522 in blobandconquer (Ubuntu) "FTBFS on ppc64el" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188352212:44
xnoxoSoMoN:  if this is -O3 vs -O2 triggered failure, normally, we simply change DEB_CFLAGS_APPEND_MAINT=-O212:54
xnoxin debian/rules12:54
xnoxrather than patching the build system.12:54
oSoMoNxnox, that would result in building the entire project with -O2, whereas in that case the build only chokes on one specific file12:55
xnoxoSoMoN:  like this:12:55
xnoxhttps://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?att=1;bug=942609;filename=pspp_1.2.0-3ubuntu1.debdiff;msg=512:55
xnoxoSoMoN:  true.12:55
xnoxoSoMoN:  i also wonder if we should notify IBM about that specific file, thing, too. For them to fix toolchain there.12:55
oSoMoNxnox, happy to do that if you have a contact there who cares12:56
xnoxnormally i open a fresh bug, and ask fjh to reverse proxy it12:57
xnoxoSoMoN:  i had to run "update-maintainer" on that package, such that Maintainer fields in debian/control are correct13:00
xnox(this was also missing fromt he ubuntu1 upload)13:00
oSoMoNright, I forgot that13:07
oSoMoNthanks for sponsoring!13:07
xnoxopened https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-power-systems/+bug/188353113:16
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1883531 in gcc-9 (Ubuntu) "build hangs for 2 hours with -03, yet succeeds with -O2 very quickly" [Undecided,New]13:16
xnoxand will ask to proxy that back to IBM13:16
seb128oSoMoN, xnox, thx13:16
hellsworthgood morning desktopers14:04
Laneyyo hellsworth 14:09
hellsworthhey Laney 14:11
oSoMoNgood morning hellsworth 14:18
hellsworthhi there oSoMoN 14:18
oSoMoNhellsworth, I re-ran the libreoffice groovy/armhf autopkgtests that failed, it's currently running (http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running#pkg-libreoffice), fingers crossed it passes and migrates14:23
hellsworthok thanks. i'm looking at the update_excuses now. there are more tests that i think need running (because they say regression and not test running)14:24
hellsworthi'm putting together a lsit now14:24
hellsworthalso, oSoMoN thank you so so much for responding to Steve Langasek on the sru14:24
hellsworthi had no idea how to answer him..14:24
oSoMoNhellsworth, you're welcome, I'm not really sure why he picked on that one, there's nothing new in SRUing libreoffice minor updates… anyway it would be good if you could look into that API/ABI stability question14:27
hellsworthoSoMoN: would you mind please rerunning these autopkgtests too? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nCbT8R5RW9/14:27
hellsworththose were the remaining failed tests in update_excuses14:28
hellsworthand yes i'll take a look at the API/ABI stability and also respond about the importance of #186956114:28
oSoMoNhellsworth, looking14:33
hellsworththanks14:34
oSoMoNhellsworth, all re-triggered, except for the last one which was already running14:38
hellsworthah ok thanks14:38
hellsworthoSoMoN: do you have any suggestion on how to go about the API stability test research? there aren't many tests in core/test or testtools.. i went and introduced myself to #libreoffice-qa and asked for a pointer and waiting on a reply..14:39
hellsworthof course as soon as i say this, i find a bulk of tests in uitests14:40
oSoMoNI guess that's your best bet, if you can't find anything related at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA14:41
hellsworthok thanks :)14:41
oSoMoNhellsworth, also, rico_tz may be familiar with the LO tests14:42
hellsworthi'll poke around the wiki link a bit but hope someone responds in irc14:42
hellsworthgreat suggestion!! ricotz I'm looking for LO tests around API/ABI stability.. are you familiar with the tests enough to point to where these would be?14:43
ricotzhellsworth, such things are scattered in the source tree, e.g. located in "*/qa/*" subfolders15:15
hellsworthright.. i didn't see anything obvious in qa/ so i went and asked in the lo irc channels and was pointed to ./solenv/gbuild/UnoApiTarget.mk that tests ./offapi/type_reference/offapi.idl15:17
hellsworthit's those buildtime tests that are not in qa/ and not obvious15:18
hellsworththank you oSoMoN, ricotz :)15:23
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