[02:20] <SpeedrunnerG55> can somone help me, im using ubuntu 18.04, and whenever i open up any programs that use my mic, or plug in my phone or sometims nothing at all my headset audio device will apear and disapear every second for a minute
[02:26] <SpeedrunnerG55> is ther a way i can see a log for my devices?
[04:02] <xbfrog> i'm running ubuntu 20.04. at first install the show applications did. and when i installed enough apps it gave me a second screen with the rest. ubuntu has stopped showing all icons. i can type the app in the search box but have icons only from the a's to the k"s and nothing else, is this design? can i change it?
[04:03] <xbfrog> btw it is the same on both laptops
[04:03] <xbfrog> where it "did" show in the beginning but now does not
[04:03] <abhijit> Hi Guys. I installed libsdl-ttf-gst and libsdl2-ttf-dev and still getting error configure: error: SDL_ttf library not found on Ubunut 20.04
[05:04] <SpeedrunnerG55> how can i disable apindicator?
[05:20] <Mibix> any idea why im getting email alerts that say /bin/sh: 1: Cannot fork
[05:37] <bello> hi, i changed ubuntu server port from 22 to something else. but when i run sftp command,  it refuses connection.  also on error output says port 22 instead of my port. how can i fix error ?
[06:03] <poutine> bello: How are you specifying port for your ssh command?
[06:04] <poutine> sftp
[06:12] <bello> poutine: i can connect via ssh by ip:port but on ssh session that sftp ip or sftp ip:port command gives error like i mentioned.  by apk can't establish sftp connection too. im on phone.
[06:12] <poutine> bello: https://askubuntu.com/questions/944811/sftp-how-to-connect-to-non-default-port
[06:13] <Ben64> : doesn't mean the same thing on sftp
[06:28] <bello> Ben64: i see.  alright
[06:28] <bello> poutine: thanks you. i can sftp from ssh now. :)
[06:29] <daregap> Hello, I'm looking for a linux backup solution for Desktop PC -> Remote Server. Preferably I'd use something that doesn't just sync a folder to a remote location, overwriting everything in the process. So for example, if I accidentally erase everything in a local folder and it gets synced to the server then I'll lose data on both ends.
[06:36] <Jordan_U> daregap: rsync is the traditional solution for things like that. It can be configured to only add and never remove files when syncing to your backup server.
[06:36] <Jordan_U> !rsync | daregap
[06:49] <ducasse> daregap: if you want a gui solution, look at back-in-time, it uses rsync to do the work
[07:06] <daregap> Jordan_U: What, if a file changes locally?
[07:07] <daregap> can I access the current version and the previous version?
[07:10] <Ben64> where is the Gnome-PRO-1.2 theme at?
[07:11] <Ben64> it's in my 20.04 install on my laptop, but not in ~/.themes or /usr/share/themes
[07:19] <ducasse> daregap: if you use back-in-time, each backup run gets a separate folder. unchanged files are hardlinks, so you can access individual versions of files
[07:25] <daregap> ducasse: is there a command-line version available? I need something to run from command line (cron)
[07:42] <ducasse> daregap: you can set up cron jobs in the gui, and it will run the cli-based core
[07:48] <fairuz> Good day people
[07:48] <fairuz> I'm having problem with supervisord on Ubuntu 18.04
[07:50] <fairuz> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XjHqjtsdwk/
[07:50] <fairuz> where supervisord load a different file than the one in the conf.d folder
[07:51] <fairuz> I've already do a reread and update
[08:10] <kreyren> fairuz, there is also #supervisor in case ubunters are useless as usuall~
[08:10] <fairuz> kreyren thanks!
[08:35] <shangul> Hello. When I try to record a video using Kazam, it does not record sound from my microphone. here's the logs: https://termbin.com/5gjfk
[08:49] <OERIAS> hi
[08:49] <OERIAS> i need help with an issue that has been bothering me on ubuntu and it needs solving
[08:50] <OnceMe> is 20.04 stable? should I upgrade? I heatd from friend there's an issue with sound there
[08:51] <akem> OnceMe, You can try it with Live USB, It works all fine here.
[08:52] <quadrathoch2> OERIAS maybe? depends on the question?
[08:53] <OERIAS> quadrathoch2, I need help with setting up a screensaver
[08:53] <OERIAS> budgie auto starts something that prevents the launch of xscreensaver
[09:10] <quadrathoch2> OERIAS sorry, I never used budgie, so no idea :/
[09:17] <dunams> is there a way to enable trackpad gestures? I mostly need 2 fingers swipe left/right to navigate back/forward
[09:31] <Dirkos> I am trying to install 20.04 via a newly formatted and installed usb but i keep getting a crash
[09:31] <Dirkos> Its checking disk and at a step of squashfs (casper) it shows errors and shuts down
[09:31] <Dirkos> cant even ready the error
[09:32] <quadrathoch2> Dirkos please check if you download is corrupted or not
[09:38] <Dirkos> quadrathoch2 the download is ok
[09:38] <Dirkos> checksum is valid
[09:38] <pikapika> since when did gcc start requiring to explicitly link math.h related functions
[09:54] <Dirkos> Someone else an idea? I cant reinstall ubuntu or boot it via usb somehow this way
[09:55] <quadrathoch2> well something went wrong probably while copying the files over. idk maybe test it out again?
[09:55] <Dirkos> yeah im trying to format the usb again and really erease all data
[09:55] <Dirkos> maybe this makes a diff
[09:56] <ducasse> Dirkos: can you try another stick?
[09:56] <Dirkos> havent got one here atm thats the problem
[10:13] <michagogo> Am I missing something, or does pip for python 2 not exist in focal?
[10:21] <quadrathoch2> michagogo python2 is eol
[10:21] <quadrathoch2> but there is still python in universe
[10:38] <michagogo> Yes, I see that
[10:39] <michagogo> But it seems pip is missing?
[10:39] <michagogo> Or am I overlooking something?
[10:51] <quadrathoch2> michagogo i just told you that there is python2 in universe, but canonical deliberatly didn't package pip, but there are ways to get to it. their stance is, if you want it, you need to know how to get it
[10:53] <quadrathoch2> michagogo and if you really need python2 there are still other versions of ubuntu which support it (going up to 12.04)
[10:53] <michagogo> I see, thanks
[10:54] <michagogo> That last point was the clarification I was seeking - that python2 still exists as a package but pip intentionally doesn’t
[10:54] <quadrathoch2> michagogo oh sorry, then I misunderstood you first
[10:55] <michagogo> Np :-)
[11:28] <tribaal> I'd like to upgrade from bionic to focal, but would like to do so the "normal" way before I go ahead and edit my sources.list by hand. do-release-upgrade -d (with /etc/upgrade-mananger/release-upgrades set to "lts") fails to authenticate the release tar.gz however, is there a known problem/workaround?
[11:28] <tribaal> reinstalling e.g. ubuntu-keyring doesn't seem to help
[11:33] <cousteau> Hi!  Are Ubuntu versions intentionally named in a way that reflects their intent?  I've noticed that LTS versions are always named something synonymous with "stable" or "reliable" (hardy, lucid, precise, trusty, focal...) whereas the versions right after those are named in a way that suggests "adventurous" or "brave" (edgy, intrepid, maverick?, utopic, groovy...).  I assume this is intentional, right?
[11:34] <tribaal> cousteau: I think it is, but only Mark knows for sure :)
[11:35] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:35] <cousteau> Well yeah but the names are somewhat croudsourced, right?
[11:35] <cousteau> Morning
[11:36] <cousteau> tribaal: btw, I don't know if things have changed a lot but last time I tried to upgrade via sources.list it was a disaster :) so I would advise against that if it can be avoided
[11:36] <quadrathoch2> tribaal did you make sure that your sources are correct?
[11:37] <tribaal> yeah, I think -updates was disabled for I don't know how long on this machine, so that's probably the source of the problem
[11:38] <tribaal> cousteau: no, I think names are Mark's exclusive privilege (although the community does maintain lists of possible/wished names :) )
[11:46] <tribaal> quadrathoch2: yep, that was it (no -updates enabled since god-knows-when) so of course ubuntu-keyring was at the release version... :)
[11:46] <quadrathoch2> have fun with the upgrade tribaal :)
[11:46] <tribaal> hehe thanks
[11:46]  * tribaal watches as the package install scrolls by
[12:08] <adrian_1908> I've tried the 20.04 server image for my notebook as base to build upon. So far this worked well. I noticed however that some cloud-related messages fly past during starting. I assume most of these are related to CloudInit. Does anyone know if I can simply get rid of that for my workstation, or it intertwined with crucial functionality?
[12:08] <cluelessperson> How do you disable cpu throttling?
[12:09] <cluelessperson> adrian_1908, find where they're coming from
[12:09] <cluelessperson> then you can address them
[12:12] <quadrathoch2> adrian_1908 no, you can delete it, as it's mostly just telling the right services how they should be configured. but make sure that you know how to get internet (especially with a laptop)
[12:12] <quadrathoch2> cluelessperson buy a better cooler? or what specifically do you mean? mitigations?
[12:13] <cluelessperson> quadrathoch2, My cpu keeps throttling constantly down to 800mhz from 1.6, so I manually configured my fan to run full blast and my temps are only around 56C
[12:13] <adrian_1908> quadrathoch2: Ok, thank you!
[12:13] <cluelessperson> quadrathoch2, so, I want to disable cpu throttling because it's obviously wrong somehow.
[12:13] <Ben64> how is it wrong?
[12:15] <quadrathoch2> cluelessperson look into cpu govenor, but as far as I understand what you want to do, it doesn't work, as all modern cpus clock down, to save energy not because of throttling
[12:15] <quadrathoch2> (in your case)
[12:16] <cluelessperson> quadrathoch2, well, I'm in chrome and everything gets freaking slow
[12:17] <Ben64> does cpu usage spike and everything kinda pauses for a second?
[12:17] <cluelessperson> Ben64, I believe so.
[12:17] <Ben64> seems to be a chrome bug
[12:17] <cluelessperson> is that the issue you were talking about before?
[12:17] <cluelessperson> Ben64, it occurs with other applications as well
[12:17] <Ben64> i've been using google-chrome-beta lately it's been great
[12:19] <Ben64> it's not gonna be your cpu scaling though unless you're stuck on powersave governor
[12:26] <alien-redfish> I want to use a hard drive across Linux (Kubuntu) and Windows, the drive needs to be encrypted but with only one partition - anyone any ideas of the best way to do this?
[12:27] <three> Well your single partition should be formatted ntfs but idk about the encryption
[12:28] <quadrathoch2> yeah and I am not sure about ext4 support on windows (in regards to encryption)
[12:28] <cluelessperson> quadrathoch2, well, it seems stuck now at 800Mhz
[12:28] <quadrathoch2> at what temps cluelessperson
[12:28] <Ben64> cluelessperson: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy0/scaling_governor
[12:29] <three> alien-redfish a better solution is to just go buy another drive and throw in in your computer
[12:29] <quadrathoch2> three that doesn't makes any sense :/
[12:30] <_BIGSHOT_> how to select fast mirros? my mirror is too slow
[12:30] <_BIGSHOT_> i can't download fast
[12:30] <three> quadrathoch2 youre right i was thinking he wanted to boot off this drive but that wouldnt make sense as he said it needs one partition
[12:30] <alien-redfish> @three I presume you're on about bootable drives / OS. I'm trying to share data back and forth but want to encrypt it.
[12:32] <cluelessperson> Ben64,  "performance"
[12:32] <cluelessperson> quadrathoch2, 56C ?
[12:32] <Ben64> then it's already at maximum
[12:32] <Ben64> and you've already messed with the governors
[12:32] <cluelessperson> make that 46C
[12:33] <quadrathoch2> what type of device are we talking about? desktop or laptop?
[12:33] <three> alien-redfish why dont you just separate the files into different directories (like windows and linux) and then have a shared directory and just encrypt the linux directory in linux and the windows one in windows and when you need to move files decrypt them and put them into the shared directory. You could also do this with partitions instead of directories but you said you only want one
[12:33] <_BIGSHOT_> anyone?
[12:33] <cluelessperson> Ben64, cpu usage is low, I don't think this is chrome
[12:33] <Ben64> cluelessperson: but you already have it at performance, you can't go higher
[12:33] <adrian_1908> alien-redfish: never used it, but I think VeraCrypt would work for both?
[12:36] <alien-redfish> adrian_1908 I'll take a look at that, thanks for the help.
[12:37] <quadrathoch2> _BIGSHOT_, hm you could select one closer to your location from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[12:37] <_BIGSHOT_> what's command line?
[12:38] <quadrathoch2> _BIGSHOT_ terminal
[12:39] <_BIGSHOT_> ?
[12:40] <quadrathoch2> _BIGSHOT_ when you search for terminal it should give you a programm which only has a textinput
[12:41] <_BIGSHOT_> shoul di copy past url in it?
[12:41] <quadrathoch2> _BIGSHOT_ you can just select also another mirror in the updates and packages program (i can't fully remember the name again)
[12:46] <tribaal> well, it worked :)
[12:46] <tribaal> unsurprisingly
[12:46] <_BIGSHOT_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend. It is held by process 6736 (apt-get) - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[12:47] <SpeedrunnerG55> how can i disable appindicator?
[12:47] <quadrathoch2> tribaal it could have gone wrong, and that's why it's still not pushed officially
[12:47] <_BIGSHOT_> : Unable to acquire the dpkg frontend lock (/var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend), is another process using it?
[12:47] <_BIGSHOT_> how to solve this?
[12:48] <Deano59> _BIGSHOT_: reboot then try.
[12:48] <quadrathoch2> SpeedrunnerG55 in gnome-tweaks or gnome-shell-extension-prefs
[12:50] <dex1983> hi
[12:52] <tribaal> exit
[12:52] <dex1983> I installed Ubuntu 20.04 LTS with this guide: https://support.us.ovhcloud.com/hc/en-us/articles/360006076940-How-to-Configure-Software-RAID-on-Ubuntu-18-04 until GRUB installation everything worked fine, then I got a "grub dummy installer" error how I can fix that manually that my ubuntu LTS installation will boot after reboot with grub?
[12:53] <quadrathoch2> dex1983 is there more to that error?
[12:53] <dex1983> no I only get this error message :-(
[12:54] <dex1983> EFI Partition exists
[12:55] <three> dex1983 when does this error occur? How did you install grub?
[12:56] <quadrathoch2> dex1983 is that system hosted? or is the guide just from ovh?
[12:56] <dex1983> with the ubuntu installer, local system not hosted anywhere
[12:57] <quadrathoch2> dex1983, at what step did the error occur?
[12:58] <Random_User> After upgrading from 18.04 to 20.04 i have run into issues using btcarmory software. The software no longer installs due to dependencies (qt4 python stuff) that are not met. I am not able to find an installation candidate for pyqt4-dev-tools for instance - that is stopping me from compiling from source. the .deb pkg refuses to install due to missing package python-qt4. Is this software too old to run
[12:58] <Random_User> on ubuntu 20.04?
[12:58] <dex1983> after finishing the setup I finished the hdd raid the rest installaton began and failed then
[12:59] <quadrathoch2> Random_User yes, qt4 is way end of life
[12:59] <quadrathoch2> dex1983 software raid1?
[12:59] <three> dex1983 the arch wiki had extensive documentation on grub and installing/re-installing. If youre certain its grub thats mucking up after an install I'd just reinstall it https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB
[12:59] <dex1983> and raid 5 like ovh tutorial
[13:00] <Random_User> that is unfortunate :( i liked this ubuntu alot. thanks
[13:01] <three> wait dex1983 the installation failed or grub failed? You're going to need to be more specific about your issue
[13:01] <dex1983> grub failed the rest of ubuntu 20.04 lts installer works
[13:01] <quadrathoch2> dex1983 still software raid or?
[13:02] <dex1983> software raid
[13:02] <three> try chrooting into your installation and installing grub manually
[13:02] <dex1983> reboot and with which live cd?
[13:04] <three> dex1983 boot into the live cd and mount your root partition on /mnt and your boot partition to /mnt/boot and the run chroot /mnt and you should be able to run the grub installation. This page goes into detail on how to do that https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB
[13:04] <quadrathoch2> dex1983 there should be an option for entering a shell (in the installer)
[13:04] <dex1983> yeah quadrathoch2 right but with the installer shell no grub etc. is working :-(
[13:05] <quadrathoch2> dex1983 but you should be able to chroot into the installed system
[13:06] <dex1983> ah and n the chrooted path grub should work
[13:07] <three> dex1983 you should be able to press ctrl+alt+f5 to get to a tty
[13:07] <quadrathoch2> three hope you can take over ;) need to take a call
[13:08] <three> dont worry I could install grub in my sleep
[13:10] <dex1983> ok thanks please help three so changing to tty5 should work and then
[13:10] <dex1983> ?
[13:11] <three> mount the root partition of the installed OS to /mnt and if you have an efi partition mount it to /mnt/boot
[13:11] <dex1983> on ctrl + F2 I get an console
[13:12] <three> should be able to do this with like (mount /dev/sdx# /mnt)
[13:12] <dex1983> ok in my case it was/is /dev/md1 that worked
[13:12] <dex1983> and now the efi part
[13:13] <three> do you know if you are booting with uefi or legacy
[13:14] <three> you can do fdisk -l to see if the installer made you a boot partition it should have either a label like "efi boot" or "boot"
[13:14] <dex1983> not working with ubuntu shell from installer I will try to boot a live cd :-)
[13:15] <dex1983> which one is good archlinux?
[13:15] <dex1983> I booted with UEFI
[13:15] <three> no do this from the ubuntu live cd
[13:15] <dex1983> can I restart?
[13:15] <three> what isnt working?
[13:15] <dex1983> reboot?
[13:15] <three> yes go ahaead reboot if you wish
[13:15] <dex1983> fidsk command is not working
[13:15] <three> fdisk -l
[13:15] <dex1983> ok I try it with ubuntu live cd I think it is better
[13:16] <three> what were you using before?
[13:16] <rudeguy> hi, does a mini .iso for 20.04 exist? is there an equivalent?
[13:16] <three> rudeguy the server version of ubuntu is the smallest
[13:17] <rudeguy> i see
[13:17] <three> you can install the desktop environment after the installation but it requires very basic terminal usage
[13:17] <dex1983> only the ubuntu lts stick
[13:17] <rudeguy> terminal usage is no problem
[13:17] <rudeguy> as long i can install a desktop
[13:18] <three> dex1983 boot into a live usb of ubuntu even if its the server version it should work
[13:18] <three> rudeguy there are packages that include the desktop environment and the included software for all of the different flavors of ubuntu
[13:19] <three> so you can just install the server version and sudo apt-get install whatever-ubuntu-flavor-iforget-what-theyre-called
[13:21] <dex1983> ah ok i exit and try it maybe repair mode of ubuntu lts iso?
[13:23] <dex1983> ok rescue is starting
[13:23] <tatertots> rudeguy: if you're going to depend on a GUI/desktop, you may as well just install desktop edition of ubuntu
[13:28] <rudeguy> i know, but i'd like to stay minimal and only install the packages i want
[13:29] <touil76> Hello. I have a question about using ubuntu 20.04 with an old graphics card.
[13:30] <three> rudeguy go with something like arch then sound like exactly what you want
[13:30] <three> touili76 whats your question
[13:30] <touil76> I installed ubuntu 20.04 on my old Dell E520, with radeon X1300 graphics card,
[13:31] <touil76> and whenever I boot, after the normal grub with text and all, when it comes to the login screen, all I can see are a bunch of diagonal lines that change somehow when I hover the mouse over them.
[13:31] <Deano59> touil76: shoot the question.
[13:31] <oerheks> touil76, pretty old card, radeon is good supported from 4xxx and up.
[13:32] <oerheks> not a youtube card, i say./
[13:32] <touil76> All works perfectly with my old ubuntu 16.04 installation.
[13:32] <three> could be the card do you have another lying around you could try
[13:34] <touil76> What should I try to get it work ?
[13:34] <touil76> Maybe, from login screen on, it's wayland that is in use, and my old card only supports Xorg ?
[13:34] <three> was it artifacting with the green lines in the installation usb too?
[13:35] <touil76> No, all went well with the usb installation. The screen worked and everything.
[13:35] <touil76> That is why I find it so weird.
[13:35] <three> that is strange. I know this is a simple suggestion but did you try reseating the card?
[13:36] <touil76> All is still working good with 16.04 so the card health is not the culprit.
[13:37] <three> is this 20.04 gnome youre on or a different DE?
[13:37] <touil76> It's a vanilla install.
[13:37] <touil76> I don't remember trying to uninstall gnome.
[13:39] <three> I'm not sure what could be causing it but I'd bet a desktop environment like xfce probably wouldn't experience this issue. The issue could just be with gnome as 16.04 used unity not gnome
[13:41] <three> consider trying to install xubuntu. xfce is great anyway
[13:42] <three> plus a DE like gnome will run like sh*t on your Dell e520 its a very heavy piece of software
[13:45] <touil76> I know, I was hoping to customize a unity installation.
[13:46] <touil76> dmesg shows an error trying to load radeon module 'No UMS support in radeon module'
[13:49] <oerheks> yeah, too low end card for gnome desktop.
[13:49] <oerheks> not sure it would perform any better on xubuntu/mate ..
[13:53] <three> just only use the cli :P
[14:00] <lapion> there is a problem with the fwupd, it won't update if fwupd-signed is installed.
[14:04] <tekk> hi all, what does charmed offer that vanilla k8's clusters don't?
[14:04] <tekk> just evaluating it now and new to k8's
[14:04] <jonfen> How can I install x11-apps:i386 on 20.04?
[14:05] <jonfen> sudo apt install libsm6:i386 libice6:i386 libuuid1:i386 libbsd0:i386 libpng12-0:i386 libx11-6:i386 libxaw7:i386 libxcursor1:i386 libxext6:i386 libxft2:i386 libxkbfile1:i386 libxmu6:i386 libxmuu1:i386 libxrender1:i386 libxt6:i386 libxcb1:i386 libxpm4:i386 libxau6:i386 libxdmcp6:i386 libxfixes3:i386 libfontconfig1:i386 libfreetype6:i386 gcc-9-base:i386 libgmp10:i386 libisl22:i386 libmpc3:i386
[14:05] <jonfen> libmpfr6:i386 libexpat1:i386 libpng16-16:i386 cpp:i386 cpp-9:i386
[14:05] <jonfen> Reading package lists... Done
[14:05] <jonfen> Building dependency tree
[14:05] <jonfen> Reading state information... Done
[14:05] <jonfen> You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these.
[14:05] <jonfen> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[14:05] <jonfen>  cpp : Conflicts: cpp:i386 but 4:9.3.0-1ubuntu2 is to be installed
[14:07] <oerheks> jonfen, did you add i386 archtecture?
[14:07] <jonfen> yes
[14:07] <oerheks> and run proper updates, sudo apt dist-upgrade?
[14:07] <jonfen> yes
[14:07] <jonfen> the issue comes down to those cpp conflicts
[14:07] <jonfen> but i am not sure how to resolve them
[14:08] <quadrathoch2> well it literally says: You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these.
[14:09] <oerheks> looking at cpp:i386, it is part of gcc-defaults
[14:09] <oerheks> what guide are you following?
[14:09] <jonfen> quadrathoch2: but if I try --fix-broken, it just uninstalls i386 for the latest
[14:09] <jonfen> oerheks: i am not following a guide
[14:10] <jonfen> i am trying to install a 32 bit app
[14:10] <oerheks> care to share what 'a 32 bit app' ??
[14:10] <Deano59> oerheks: an app that is 32bit?
[14:10] <jonfen> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5mqcDRP3vN/
[14:11] <jonfen> mxie by zultys
[14:11] <jonfen> https://www.zultys.com/products/unified-communications/mxie-software/
[14:12] <jonfen> i was able to get it working on 18.04
[14:13] <jonfen> but 20.04 has dropped more 32 bit support
[14:13] <jonfen> x11-apps:i386 is the last dependency i need to resolve, but its dependencies (cpp) have me stuck
[14:14] <jonfen> is there a way to do a --fix-broken that forces an architecture?
[14:15] <oerheks> cpp is part of gcc-defaults; try installing gcc-defaults:i386
[14:15] <jonfen> oerheks: will do
[14:15] <oerheks> good luck with that prop paid software
[14:16] <jonfen> no kidding
[14:16] <jonfen> we had to take apart an rpm package to even get it working on 18.04
[14:17] <PCatinean> Does anyone here use pulseaudio-equalizer in 20.04 ?
[14:19] <jonfen> looks like gcc-defaults isn't in 20.04
[14:20] <oerheks> sure it is ... https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-defaults/1.185.1ubuntu2
[14:21] <oerheks> Builds Focal: amd64 arm64  i386 ....
[14:22] <jonfen> hmmmm Unable to locate package gcc-defaults:i386
[14:23] <ioria> jonfen, i  guess it's a source package not a binary
[14:24] <jonfen> i will have to try that.
[14:34] <dex1983> Hmm how I can delete my whole disks with mdadm to reformat/delete it with gparted :-(
[14:40] <quadrathoch2> dex1983 just create a new partition table, so it didn't work out?
[14:49] <dex1983> no its locked also live cd with gparted does not work :-(
[14:50] <quadrathoch2> did you encrypt it dex1983?
[14:50] <dex1983> nope
[14:52] <quadrathoch2> dex1983 hm, could you also test with gnome-disks?
[14:53] <jwr> I know that I can use a tool like `top` to examine system load with process-level granularity in real time. Is there any tool which provides process-level granularity retroactively? Like if a system was under high load two hours ago, is there a tool which can tell me that PID 1234 caused that high load? I've looked at `sar` but I don't think that works at a per-process level.
[14:53] <jStefan> Hello, How could I check the last update date of an apt repository I'm using? The idea being, to check if it might have gone stale.
[14:55] <knstn> "apt-cache showpkg nfs-kernel-server" -----> <various output>....1:1.3.4.2....<various output>. Does that mean on 18.04 LTS the NFS version is 3?
[14:55] <jStefan> maybe even compare it to an official repo to see how many hours behind it is. I know some websites have this information, but I would like to script it and detect it myself.
[14:57] <quadrathoch2> knstn no, it's just a package version number
[14:58] <dex1983> quadrathoch2 strange with cfdisk it seems to work
[14:58] <quadrathoch2> dex1983 oO kay... let's move on :)
[15:00] <jStefan> knstn, this website seems more relevant to what you are asking: https://linoxide.com/linux-how-to/example-linux-command-to-find-nfs-version/
[15:05] <JellyIsAwesome> why does my ethernet adapter say that it has 2 ipv4 addresses?
[15:09] <jStefan> JellyIsAwesome, is the other the loopback address? try the command: ip addr
[15:28] <SpeedrunnerG55> how can i disable appindicator?
[15:28] <SpeedrunnerG55> i switched it off in gnome tweaks but i can still see it running and printing error messages in syslog
[15:28] <fassl> is it still possible to upgrade from 19.04 ?
[15:29] <quadrathoch2> fassl it is possible, is it recommended? no
[15:29] <abtm_> need the apt upgrade command to force an upgrade....
[15:29] <oerheks> fassl, follow the eolupgrade factoid, 19.04 is dead for some time now
[15:30] <oerheks> !eolupgrade
[15:30] <abtm_> seeing the following error when I try to update
[15:30] <abtm_> fwupd-signed: Depends: fwupd (= 1.3.9-4) but 1.3.9-4ubuntu0.1 is to be installed
[15:30] <fassl> thanks quadrathoch2 oerheks
[15:31] <quadrathoch2> fassl make sure to have backups ;)
[15:34] <fassl> quadrathoch2 hm i might just reinstall as oerheks suggests, as zfs on root is now possible from the installer right? i already had issues with this in a previous upgrade iirc
[15:34] <oerheks> abtm_, reload the lists with sudo apt update, then try upgrade again or upgrade -f
[15:35] <quadrathoch2> fassl imho, makes more sense. and (at least for me) it doesn't take that much longer to configure everything + install the programs i need (have it all written down)
[15:35] <abtm_> imes
[15:35] <abtm_> will try upgrade -f
[15:35] <abtm_> is the f before or after upgrade
[15:36] <oerheks> after, sudo apt upgrade -f
[15:36] <abtm_> didnt work
[15:36] <abtm_> The following packages have been kept back:
[15:36] <abtm_>   fwupd
[15:37] <ioria> abtm_,  sudo apt full-upgrade
[15:37] <abtm_> doesnt that upgrade to next OS release?
[15:37] <ioria> nope
[15:38] <oerheks> !distupdgrade
[15:38] <oerheks> !distupgrade
[15:38] <oerheks> dist-upgrade and full-upgrade do not bring the next 'buntu
[15:39] <abtm_> ok thanks
[15:41] <fassl> quadrathoch2 agreed.
[15:44] <fassl> oerheks yeah i kinda missed that, just came back the first time to office since some months
[15:45] <fassl> but i guess thats what you deserve not being on LTS ;)
[15:50] <Guest43863> Hi,
[15:52] <Guest43863> I am running ubuntu 18.04 on metebook d 14 ( 2nd edition ). I am trying to figure out how to interact with fan speed. Lm-sensors doesn't report any RPM. Can I find something in /sys ? How does the OS interacts with fan?
[15:53] <quadrathoch2> Guest43863 is that a amd laptop?
[15:55] <hofer> Huawei MateBook D 14
[15:59] <quadrathoch2> https://gitlab.com/cscs/linux-on-huawei-matebook-d-14-amd#lm_sensors maybe it helps Guest43863
[16:01] <JellyIsAwesome> would you recommend using plex? if not, what should i use?
[16:04] <oerheks> plex is paid, we recommend opensource and freedom, tons of mediaplayers to choose from
[16:05] <Ether_Man> oerheks, plex is free for the vast majority of the uses. It is however closed source
[16:06] <Guest43863> quadrathoch2: yup. It's Ryzen 5 3500U.
[16:07] <knstn> jStefan: thanks for the link. This one though looks better "https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-install-and-configure-an-nfs-server-on-ubuntu-18-04/"
[16:07] <Piraty> i see a lot of "testing the buffer" in dmesg, 5.6.3-050603-generic
[16:09] <Piraty> i used ukuu before to install newer kernels, how can i find out which would be the default for 20.4 ? so i can stay on stock kernel from now on
[16:10] <Guest43863> quadrathoch2: ah, thanks! Haven't noticed the link. Checking it out.
[16:10] <quadrathoch2> Piraty, the stock kernel is 5.4 and then the latest ;)
[16:11] <Piraty> i was hoping 5.6
[16:12] <Piraty> LTSkernel for LTS OS i guess
[16:13] <Guest43863> quadrathoch2: that's acutally a older generation model. Do you belive that kind of tweeks can be compatibile between generations?
[16:13] <quadrathoch2> Guest43863 give me a sec
[16:13] <Guest43863> quadrathoch2: sure, thanks. No rush.
[16:25] <quadrathoch2> Guest43863, do you want to read the fanspeed or also control it?
[16:39] <Guest43863> quadrathoch2: would be sweet but reading to for the starters would be nice too.
[16:42] <quadrathoch2> hm Guest43863 as far as I could glimpse into the topic, https://github.com/ocerman/zenpower seems to be one of the better solutions. no idea how much you ca do with that
[16:45] <Guest43863> Thanks quadrathoch2. Appreciate the input.
[16:46] <quadrathoch2> Guest43863, yw :)
[17:13] <dex1983> I think quadrathoch2 I discovered my error while installing ubuntu lts :-(
[17:13] <dex1983> oh man
[17:13] <quadrathoch2> dex1983 and?
[17:14] <dex1983> I think it was my failure when creating an md0 with 6 disks with RAID 6 I will need a seperate disk/stick for boot or is it possible without it and boot from md0?
[17:15] <Inge-> I think my synology disktation boots from md0 in a raid
[17:15] <chaotix> Hi i need help.  I am using ubuntu 16.04 and my internet is working,m i have a wired ethernet connection.  browsing the web is fine but i am uname to use apt to install or update anything, or use the software center or update manager.  it hangs at 0 percent...  i tried using different mirrors, and i found a tutorial that said the problem was ipv6
[17:15] <chaotix> but that didnt work...  cna someone help me please?  thanks in advance
[17:18] <pavlos> chaotix: cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:18] <chaotix> pavlos ok thanks
[17:19] <quadrathoch2> dex1983 well you don't need to, but it's probably easier because of the efi partition
[17:19] <dex1983> ok thans bah so annoying :-(
[17:19] <dex1983> damn EFI
[17:19] <pavlos> chaotix: this will provide a link to show the contents of that file
[17:19] <chaotix> pavlos  https://termbin.com/4z3c
[17:21] <dex1983> Do not know what I have done wrong
[17:21] <dex1983> with EFI
[17:22] <pavlos> chaotix: maybe the mirror.cc.columbia.edu is down?
[17:22] <chaotix> pavlos i just changed to that mirroir
[17:22] <chaotix> but ill try the next one now
[17:23] <oerheks> mirror should be oke, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/mirror.cc.columbia.edu
[17:23] <oerheks> change to main,
[17:24] <chaotix> ok
[17:25] <chaotix> changed it to duke it might be working now...  still slopw though
[17:25] <chaotix> sorry i did that before you said to try main
[17:25] <chaotix> thank you guys for helping, hope we can fix it.  i love the ubuntu community
[17:28] <pavlos> chaotix: this is the default sources.list ... https://gist.github.com/rohitrawat/60a04e6ebe4a9ec1203eac3a11d4afc1
[17:28] <chaotix> pavlos do you want me to replace the contents of my sources.list with that?
[17:30] <chaotix> after this, can you guys try to help me with another problem i have been stuck on all week?
[17:30] <pavlos> chaotix: copy your existing sources.list to sources.list.backup and then use the default ... sudo apt update/upgrade should work
[17:30] <chaotix> k
[17:30] <chaotix> pavlos ok will do now
[17:33] <chaotix> pavlos that did it
[17:33] <chaotix> i think
[17:33] <chaotix> oh yeah!
[17:34] <pavlos> chaotix: is update clean, no errors?
[17:34] <chaotix> its still going...  this is a fresh install so it hasnt been updated yet
[17:35] <chaotix> not showing any errors yet though pavlos
[17:35] <chaotix> while this goes, can i ask about my other probnlem?
[17:35] <pavlos> chaotix: sure
[17:35] <chaotix> havent been able to find anby help with it and its been days of trying to figure it out
[17:35] <chaotix> thank you
[17:37] <pavlos> chaotix: there are many people in this channel to help
[17:37] <chaotix> for a monitor, i am using a 27", HD CRT television connected via HDMI.  It is a 4:3 display but thinks it is 16:9...  the only opeions in displays are 1920x1080 and 1280x720
[17:37] <chaotix> i did try adding new resolutions using xrandr, but the tv went black and then said it wasnt supported...  i tried adding 1024x768 but it didnt work
[17:37] <quadrathoch2> dex1983 somehow when they designed the efi partition nobody cared about software raid somehow
[17:38] <dex1983> ah ok, do you have a solution for it?
[17:38] <chaotix> maybe theres a resolution i can try?  i also tried xrandr --transform but icouldnt find the exactr coordinate i needed and besides the whole system got super buggy when i tried that
[17:38] <pavlos> chaotix: xrandr --query | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:38] <chaotix> pavlos ok
[17:39] <chaotix> https://termbin.com/dprn
[17:39] <kyle__> Anyone know of a good way of tracking the per-application active time on desktop?  Most of what I'm finding are time-trackers that the user interacts with, but in this case it's more about monitoring how much time my kids are using on their machines.
[17:40] <chaotix> pavlos oh wow should i try adding one of the last two resolutiuons?
[17:40] <pavlos> chaotix: these seems the resolutions supported on TV ... I dont know much about this, maybe someone can help
[17:40] <chaotix> i am gonna try to add the last two resolutions listed there first i think....  i hadnt tried this yet
[17:40] <chaotix> only the first two show upo in the gui as of now
[17:45] <pavlos> chaotix: maybe there is a setting on TV (using the TV remote) to set up resolution
[17:46] <chaotix> pavlos there isnt unfortunately
[17:46] <chaotix> pavlos ill let you know how adding the 720x480 worked
[17:48] <quadrathoch2> dex1983 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=925591
[17:51] <chaotix> pavlos 720x480 is a 4:3 display and the output of xrandr  --query says it is supported, right?  so i just have to try to set my pc to that resolution and maybe it will fit
[17:52] <pavlos> chaotix: well, 480 is rather low res, the windows will be really big. Is that want you want?
[17:53] <luckylinux> Hi. Did anybody have success setting up ubuntu 20.04 LTS with ZFS on LUKS? I am struggling (install using debootstrap) and it basically cannot resolve rpool/ROOT/ubuntu during update-initramfs. There was a patch on launchpad bug tracker by one user, but it didn't work for me :(. Could it be due to the fact that I created the pool from Debian (ZFS 0.8.4) while ubuntu has only ZFS 0.8.3 ?
[17:53] <chaotix> pavlos no
[17:53] <chaotix> i just tried it using xrandr --size 480x720...  its way too big and too much overscan
[17:53] <pavlos> chaotix: so use 1080 or 720 for your res ... settings>Displays
[17:56] <chaotix> pavlos i am not sure what you mean
[17:56] <chaotix> pavlos
[17:57] <chaotix> pavlos sorry...  anyway there were only two initial resolutions available and they were both 16:9 resolutions...  thje other ones i am ading in the terminal...   but no matter what i try there is overscan
[17:57] <chaotix> a ton of it
[17:58] <chaotix> at least in kodi you can just resize the screen, same with android tv...  but i
[17:58] <chaotix> cant figure out what to do in linux
[17:59] <pavlos> chaotix: you wrote, "in displays are 1920x1080 and 1280x720" (I drop the 1st number) so settings>Displays let you use either 1080 or 720. You dont want either of those res?
[18:00] <chaotix> pavlos i would but there is overscan
[18:00] <chaotix> it's way too big for the tv
[18:00] <doomlist3> hi
[18:01] <doomlist3> i want to find out which disk type - ssd or hdd and their more details
[18:01] <pavlos> chaotix: 1080 is too big for a 27" TV?
[18:01] <doomlist3> which cmd for that
[18:01] <chaotix> its a 4:3 tv, and a CRT not a flatscreen.  dont know if that matters
[18:02] <chaotix> this is the tv
[18:02] <chaotix> https://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-tx-t2793h-slimfit-27-crt-tv/
[18:03] <pavlos> chaotix: well, I dont know much about TV, sorry (I use a 24" monitor with hdmi and 1080 is fine)
[18:03] <chaotix> pavlos i appreciate you trying
[18:03] <kyle__> chaotix: What connection? The connection type will dictate the resolutions available.
[18:03] <pavlos> chaotix: no worries, at least update/upgrade works now
[18:04] <chaotix> pavlos i really appreciate all the help
[18:04] <kyle__> chaotix: And the more modern ones like DP/HDMI should always list available resolutions to the OS, and many of the older ones /usually/ do as well.
[18:04] <chaotix> kyle__ it's HDMI
[18:04] <chaotix> there were only two available res, both showing up bigger than the tv so there was a ton of oversdcan
[18:05] <kyle__> xrandr should tell you.
[18:05] <kyle__> Ohh.  You can fix the overscan to some extent.  arch wiki is often helpful.  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xrandr
[18:05] <kyle__> But I don't know how much.
[18:06] <chaotix> kyle__ i have been trying...  the closest i ever got with it was with xrandr --trnasform but i couldnt get it to fit right and it also made everything really buggy on the system
[18:06] <kyle__> Damn.  Well there goes all my good ideas :)
[18:07] <chaotix> it's ok i took up enough of everyones time....  i really appreciare all the ideas and help.  pavlos thank you for tryingf and for fixing my updates
[18:07] <chaotix> later everyone
[18:08] <pavlos> doomlist3: sudo hdparm -I /dev/sdX (where X is your drive
[18:12] <pavlos> doomlist3: lsblk -o model,size,name -d
[18:33] <jStefan> How could I check the last update date of an apt repository I'm using? The idea being, to check if it might have gone stale.
[18:33] <jStefan> ...maybe even compare it to an official repo to see how many hours behind it is. I know some websites have this information, but I would like to script it and detect it myself.
[18:34] <oerheks> one check; https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[18:35] <oerheks> err https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[18:35] <sarnold> jStefan: on the repo itself, ubuntu/dists/focal-updates/InRelease Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 14:31:19 UTC
[18:36] <jStefan> sarnold, so curl the inrelease file for a date?
[18:37] <sarnold> jStefan: yeah -- consider also checking the signature on that file, since it's the Source Of Truth for udpates
[19:06] <xbfrog> anyone here now how to set a custom shorcut key? i cant find out how. searching the net gives me spurious info
[19:06] <xbfrog> ubuntu 20.04
[19:07] <xbfrog> seems like it should be easy
[19:07] <oerheks> systemsettings > devices> keyboard is the place to be
[19:07] <xbfrog> ok, i dont have devices
[19:07] <xbfrog> i have keybord and mouse
[19:07] <xbfrog> just for curiosity lemme look again
[19:09] <xbfrog> there is no devices, but excuse me there is keyboard shortcuts not kboard and mouse
[19:09] <xbfrog> but no way i can see to change anything
[19:09] <xbfrog> or add
[19:09] <oerheks> scroll down in the list, '+'
[19:10] <xbfrog> well shoot, it was off screen
[19:10] <xbfrog> thanks, found it
[19:10] <xbfrog> geezaloo
[19:12] <xbfrog> well, that was stupid simple, thanks again
[19:12] <oerheks> have fun!
[19:41] <Eryn_1983_FL> hi guys..
[19:41] <Eryn_1983_FL> so im trying to tftp boot ubuntu server,
[19:41] <Eryn_1983_FL> and there is an option for a nic id, what should i put? em1 doesnt work eth0, ens?
[19:46] <Eryn_1983_FL> i already got a pxe server working fine
[19:46] <Eryn_1983_FL> i just dont want to use nfs, i want to use http,
[19:47] <Eryn_1983_FL> atm i am getting nic error and no /dev/sr0
[19:47] <Eryn_1983_FL> i think that cause i use the initrid and stuff from the iso
[19:51] <three> run "ip a" it'll show your network config and the names of your network adapters
[19:52] <Eryn_1983_FL> mmm
[19:52] <Eryn_1983_FL> its a vm
[19:52] <three> it sill will have network adapters
[19:52] <three> where do you need the nic id?
[19:52] <pavlos> could be vbr0
[19:53] <three> btw what kind of tftp boot service are you setting up?
[19:53] <oerheks> a vm, interesting.
[19:53] <Eryn_1983_FL> i just want it to install ubuntu
[19:54] <Eryn_1983_FL> for our centos we use kickstart,
[19:54] <Eryn_1983_FL> i dont really want that part i just want it to load ubuntu install and i can manually set it up
[19:54] <Eryn_1983_FL> i just cant attach an iso in the current env,
[19:54] <oerheks> .. without nfs ofcourse
[19:54] <Eryn_1983_FL> yeah that would be nice,,
[19:55] <Eryn_1983_FL> i got http already setup..
[19:55] <three> what hypervisor are you using?
[19:55] <Eryn_1983_FL> its ovirt,
[19:55] <Eryn_1983_FL> but the iso add bs is broken and i cant get it working
[19:56] <three> i've never heard of it. but thats really dumb that you cant mount an iso
[19:56] <three> you could just dd the iso to whatever format it uses for the virtual disks and then boot to that lol. that would be a very roundabout solution
[19:57] <Eryn_1983_FL> im tempted...
[19:57] <three> like just make a blank raw file and dd the iso over it then just mount and boot and boom
[19:57] <Eryn_1983_FL> i even tried to upgrade over the weekend and it wont let me connect new nodes cause there is not python2
[19:58] <Eryn_1983_FL> ok
[19:58] <three> whats the reason for that hypervisor. does it have some specific use case
[19:58] <Dr_Coke> Hi Eryn_1983_FL
[20:00] <Eryn_1983_FL> hello
[20:00] <Eryn_1983_FL> the reason?
[20:00] <Eryn_1983_FL> not sure, its prod atm,
[20:00] <three> hey, thats a fine answer
[20:00] <Eryn_1983_FL> we are trying to move off the openstack, but juju keep messing up
[20:01] <Eryn_1983_FL> im trying to appease the Devs with a new ubuntu server for docker,
[20:02] <three> i mean if its only one server just dd to a raw or something and see if that will do the trick. if its multiple servers you have to create on this hypervisor id stick with the pxe booting. cant you also like install ubuntu some other wacky way over a network
[20:03] <Eryn_1983_FL> its just one but they been wanting a few for openstack and stuff so i was thinking long term
[20:03] <Eryn_1983_FL> its a virtio disk not sure what that mean
[20:04] <oerheks> maybe #ovirt is a help, grinn
[20:05] <Eryn_1983_FL> lolol
[20:05] <Eryn_1983_FL> not really
[20:05] <Eryn_1983_FL> i been fighting with it for weeks,
[20:08] <Eryn_1983_FL> my nfs server is great for that, yet i cant get ovirt to connect to it, i can manually
[20:08] <Eryn_1983_FL> sigh
[20:08] <Eryn_1983_FL> so im dding it to a second hdd
[20:08] <Eryn_1983_FL> now
[20:08] <kyle__> Anyone know of a good way of tracking the per-application active time on desktop?  Most of what I'm finding are time-trackers that the user interacts with, but in this case it's more about monitoring how much time my kids are using on their machines.
[20:19] <Eryn_1983_FL> thanks three
[20:19] <Eryn_1983_FL> its installing now
[20:19] <Eryn_1983_FL> ty was easier then the other bs
[20:19] <rjb> hi, in some earlier ubuntu releases i think the validity fingerprint sensor worked out of the box (not sure though). in 20.04's settings manager i just got an error message when trying to setup fingerprint login. lspci and lsusb don't show anything related to validity fingerprint sensor. how can i make it working (if at all)?
[20:25] <oerheks> fingerprint never worked OOTB, without the fingerprint gui ppa, with 20.04 it is build-in. still, check the ppa page for supported deviced IDs
[20:25] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui and https://fprint.freedesktop.org/supported-devices.html
[20:29] <rjb> oerheks: ok, thanks. then there's probably a hardware issue with the fingerprint reader as it won't show up in lsusb at all :(
[20:29] <oerheks> i think you want lspci, for internal devices
[20:30] <matsaman> as far as security, I can only imagine using a fingerprint reader as a red herring
[20:31] <rjb> oerheks: it's neither listed there :/
[20:35] <rjb> matsaman: since there's no encryption on the disk it doesn't really make a difference.
[20:38] <matsaman> rjb: heh, even better
[20:39] <tomreyn> and fprint just stores RAW images of your fingertips on disk, convenient.
[20:42] <oerheks> yeah, there is encryption between device and port in progress..
[20:42] <rjb> either way it's good enough to keep noobs or little children out. fprint would however speed up logins :)
[20:43] <tomreyn> or you can have it even faster, just remove the logins!
[20:45] <dex1983> Hmm I have no ideas :-( why I cannot install Ubuntu LTS with software RAID :-(
[20:48] <matsaman> dex1983: what kind of raid setup were you thinking of?
[20:49] <dex1983> like this one https://support.us.ovhcloud.com/hc/en-us/articles/360006076940-How-to-Configure-Software-RAID-on-Ubuntu-18-04
[20:49] <dex1983> does not work with ubuntu 20.04 lts
[20:49] <dex1983> Also in Debian I cannot make it
[20:49] <dex1983> EFI sucks but UEFI boot is enabled
[20:50] <matsaman> which part doesn't work?
[20:51] <dex1983> the grub install fails
[20:52] <dex1983> or seems to work after rebot grub command line appears thats all :-( when I try to install on usb stick
[20:59] <tomreyn> dex1983: did you partition manually?
[20:59] <dex1983> yep
[21:00] <tomreyn> do you still have the logs?
[21:00] <dex1983> nope :-(
[21:01] <dex1983> I'm about to give up. :-(
[21:01] <Jordan_U> daregap: You might also be interested in using btrfs. The combination of snapshots and btrfs send / receive allows incremental backups that are CPU efficient, Time efficient (snapshots are almost instant), and Network efficient (like rsync, only changes are sent. But unlike rsync, btrfs send can actually calculate the diff to send itself, without needing to check what the backup server has / timestamps
[21:01] <Jordan_U> on files on the backup server).
[21:02] <Jordan_U> daregap: All of the above is equally true of zfs, but I like btrfs because it's upstream, has no licensing issues, and is IMHO more flexible and well suited to consumer needs.
[21:09] <edoceo> I've got this odd issue on T420s Lenovo -- usuall xrandr shows one DVI output -- but after I come back from Hibernate it shows TWO there is a new phantom VGA-1 device added
[21:09] <edoceo> it's not real
[21:12] <edoceo> How can I force the system to not enable that phantom device?
[21:15] <matsaman> edoceo: could you just say xrandr --output VGA-1 --off?
[21:19] <edoceo> Yea, but how to make that run on every boot, and on ever time I come back from hibernate
[21:19] <edoceo> Cause somehow, this new thing gets added when we go into hibernate.
[21:19] <edoceo> Maybe it's this nvidia drviver?
[21:19] <matsaman> there are some filesystem spots you can drop scripts to run on wake
[21:19] <oerheks> i am sure that 520 has a vga port too, left side
[21:20] <matsaman> edoceo: which Ubuntu version?
[21:20] <edoceo> Then then after the failed restore from hibernate, which addes this phantom VGA-1 then next proper boot has the resultion all to heck.
[21:20] <edoceo> Latest xubuntu w/Xfce 4.12
[21:20] <oerheks> oops 420
[21:20] <edoceo> It's a fresh install
[21:20] <matsaman> edoceo: latest isn't a version
[21:21] <edoceo> matsaman: but you know which version I mean right?  Latest version; which is Xubuntu 20.04 LTS
[21:22] <edoceo> The docs call it "Latest LTS release: 20.04, Focal Fossa"
[21:22] <matsaman> I do now
[21:22] <matsaman> 'latest' is an English word that is arbitrary, it's unfortunate if they use it against versions on download sites
[21:23] <edoceo> I'll let the folks who operate xubuntu.org know
[21:23]  * matsaman shrugs
[21:23] <matsaman> edoceo: https://askubuntu.com/questions/92218/how-to-execute-a-command-after-resume-from-suspend
[21:26] <edoceo> Ok, that's good - but how can I fix the ubuntu display detection issue for-real, rather than an on/boot/resume/hibernate/thaw process.
[21:27] <edoceo> Like, why is the machine adding "VGA-1 connected" when no-such thing is happening?  Then adding DP-1,2,3 too (after a reboot).  Shouldn't this display configuration be pretty static and not change each boot?
[21:31] <matsaman> edoceo: I assume a deep dive into xrandr source might help you figure that out
[21:36] <quadrathoch2> dex1983 still not working :/
[21:36] <quadrathoch2> ?
[21:42] <aum> Does the server version of Ubuntu 20.03 not have boot-from-zfs option?
[21:45] <sarnold> aum: it does not; that'll probably come later, but afaik there's no timetable for it
[21:57] <mason> aum: It's entirely possible to do a debootstrap install that'll get you a ZFS root.
[22:00] <Severs> what would be a reason that PDFs are printing properly, do i need a different PDF reader than the default that comes with ubuntu?
[22:01] <matsaman> Severs: are or aren't printing properly?
[22:03] <Severs> arent, the first couple ive tried have had none of the fill in information on the print, and then another one printed blank pages
[22:04] <Severs> for instance, one of the things i am attempting to print out right now is a filled in form 1040 regarding my taxes... and its just printing a unused form 1040
[22:05] <matsaman> Severs: talking about for fillable forms?
[22:05] <Severs> yeah
[22:05] <matsaman> Severs: that's all Adobe proprietary BS, IME
[22:05] <Severs> so theres no good way to print it from linux?
[22:06] <matsaman> Severs: I've heard okular might do better
[22:06] <matsaman> Severs: pdfedit obviously, but that's more editing than filling
[22:06] <matsaman> Severs: what you really "want" is adobe's actual acroread
[22:06] <matsaman> Severs: actually I've read evince can do it under _some_ circumstances
[22:06] <Severs> i installed that off the Ubuntu store, when i go to print it just brings up a blank error box
[22:07] <Severs> ill try evince
[22:08] <matsaman> what I usually do
[22:08] <matsaman> and I usually do this even for fillable forms when I have acroread
[22:08] <matsaman> (because usually fillable forms reformat things terribly fugly)
[22:08] <matsaman> is open the PDF in Inkscape and put in my digital text however I like
[22:08] <matsaman> it's more time consuming, but the finished product can be as perfect as I want
[22:08] <oerheks> how about libreoffice?
[22:08] <matsaman> and you even eliminate certain restrictions
[22:09] <Severs> everything is already filled in, its not printing the filled in info when i click print
[22:10] <matsaman> fastest way would be to take a screenshot & print it
[22:21] <Walex> LibreOffice can edit PDFs too
[22:22] <Severs> editing isnt the issue, printing is
[22:22] <Severs> thanks for the help guys
[22:22] <matsaman> Severs: take a screen shot & print it, or seek out acroread, or edit it
[22:23] <matsaman> those are your straightforward options
[22:23] <Severs> yeah i converted them to images
[22:23] <matsaman> or print it out and fill it in by hand =)
[22:23] <matsaman> PDFs on websites always sucked, for forms too
[22:23] <Severs> problem with that is one of the PDFs wouldnt even print out any of the document whatsoever, it would print completely blank pages
[22:24] <matsaman> yeah there are at least a couple different form standards in adobe's proprietary bs
[22:25] <Severs> all i can say is... its just so dumb
[22:32] <carcamovski> puedes en 15 min?
[22:34] <Severs> but again, thanks for helpin me out guys i appreciate it
[22:35] <forgotmynick> hello. i followed this guide to create a notification for when a user logs in and it works great (https://askubuntu.com/a/448602). i'm now using putty on windows and adding an environmental variable (acceptenv set in sshd config) which is available in the shell when logged in but not with the script. is there something i need to change?
[22:40] <sarnold> forgotmynick: the PAM module pam_env is often configured for services and may cause the environment variable set by the remote client to be discarded during the authenticatino process
[22:41] <sarnold> forgotmynick: eg https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/920749
[22:44] <forgotmynick> i was hoping to add an variable and if present, skips the login notification :(
[22:55] <giaco> I have 2 ubuntu machines. In one I write an utf8 encoded txt file with vim, and it works correctly. When I rsync that file to second ubuntu machine, when I open it with vim I see special characters replaced with _
[22:57] <giaco> the hash of the 2 files is identical so it must be a local problem
[23:10] <giaco> solved, it was a locale problem
[23:19] <miu5> hi, Im looking for this version of crontab in the Ubuntu Manpages, specifically for the MAILFROM that is used in here: https://linux.die.net/man/5/crontab .  Anyone can help?
[23:20] <matsaman> man 5 crontab ?
[23:22] <miu5> matsaman, man 5 crontab does not have MAILFROM inside the pages.
[23:23] <pavlos> matsaman: there is a MAILTO
[23:24] <matsaman> miu5: what's your cron implementation?
[23:25] <miu5> yes i know theres MAILTO.   i want to set MAILFROM. My question is, why is MAILFROM discussed on https://linux.die.net/man/5/crontab, but its nowhere to be found in the Ubuntu manpages?
[23:25] <matsaman> maybe the particular single cron implementation you're using
[23:26] <matsaman> doesn't support it, or doesn't mention it in _its_ man pages
[23:26] <matsaman> there are tons of cron implementations
[23:26] <sarnold> miu5: there's a bunch of different cron implementations: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DKCGNjtrs6/
[23:26] <matsaman> try cronie
[23:26] <sarnold> miu5: try some of the other packages
[23:26] <sarnold> miu5: there's a chance that debian/ubuntu doesn't have *that* cron implementatino packaged
[23:26] <sarnold> miu5: if you find out whast implementation it *is*, you can check if we have a package for it, or package it yourself if we don't
[23:27] <miu5> sarnold, how can i find out the exact version of cron i am using?  and how do i find out what implementation it is?
[23:27] <matsaman> dpkg -l | grep -i cron
[23:27] <pavlos> if MAILFROM is defined, it will be used else "root" will be used
[23:28] <sarnold> miu5: man cron, scroll to the end. it *probably* says author, paul vixie..
[23:28] <matsaman> vixie's man page covers MAILFROM, IME
[23:29] <matsaman> I doubt Ubuntu would ship vixie by default though
[23:31] <miu5> sarnold, scrolled to the end but doesnt say version. i found it with dpkg from matsaman.   its 2.3-24
[23:32] <matsaman> miu5: okay 2.3-24 but what package?
[23:32] <miu5> and 3.0pl1-128.1ubuntu1
[23:32] <matsaman> just 'cron'?
[23:32] <miu5> anacron
[23:32] <miu5> anacron 2.3-24
[23:32] <miu5> cron 3.0pl1-128.1ubuntu1
[23:33] <matsaman> it's probably bcron, then
[23:33] <pavlos> apt list cron
[23:33] <matsaman> I think Debian is moving to cronie, so that should happen in Ubuntu after a while, too
[23:34] <matsaman> and of course systemd has some kind of thing
[23:34] <miu5> cron/bionic,now 3.0pl1-128.1ubuntu1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
[23:35] <miu5> so what implementation is MAILFROM in then? matsaman
[23:36] <matsaman> more than one implementation supports it
[23:36] <matsaman> I would suggest 'cronie' if it's available
[23:37] <matsaman> not sure it is
[23:37] <matsaman> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cron/+bug/1750051
[23:38] <miu5> hmm interesting
[23:39] <miu5> no wonder its not there.
[23:41] <matsaman> bit weird the commentors are trying to patch the existing cron instead of just making the version that supports it available =P
[23:42] <miu5> yea. thanks matsaman
[23:48] <matsaman> commenters* I guess