[06:16] <ducasse> good morning
[06:17] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:21] <mesaboogie> morning
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-20.10-Restrict-dmesg
[15:08] <asdfgh> hello
[15:09] <asdfgh> are the softwares installed via the default software-tool of ubuntu 20.04 coming from SNAP?
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> asdfgh: its the users choice nowadays to install from apt or snaps
[15:09] <asdfgh> lotuspsychje, sure ok, but as i wrote i did not install it via snap
[15:09] <asdfgh> just via the default ubuntu software tool
[15:09] <asdfgh> are those packages coming from snap ?
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> asdfgh: before you install the software, you can check at bottom: snap-store
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> asdfgh: 20.04 uses the snap store by default, that does mean yes it holds also snaps by default too
[15:10] <asdfgh> lotuspsychje, at bootm where exactly?
[15:10] <asdfgh> i did not find snap-stopre
[15:11] <asdfgh> or really? i thought we were moving forward to Flatpak
[15:11] <asdfgh> so canonical is going to replace apt in the next relases?
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> asdfgh: source: snapcraft.io
[15:12] <asdfgh> interesting...yes but why this? i mean...we are moving to snap 100% in the next releases?
[15:12] <asdfgh> i heard about flatpak too, because snap is ubuntu-centric
[15:13] <asdfgh> no true?
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> asdfgh: no decision yet like that for the future
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> but the snaps are growing...
[15:13] <asdfgh> lotuspsychje, ok so where i can exactly select snap store from the software tool
[15:14] <lotuspsychje> asdfgh: ubuntu-software is the snap store on 20.04, it just colors orange like the old ubuntu software centre
[15:15] <asdfgh> ooh ok
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> asdfgh: df -h
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> asdfgh: you see snap-store? under /dev/loop ?
[15:19] <asdfgh> oh yes
[15:19] <asdfgh> lotuspsychje, yes
[15:30] <jnewsome> Hi, I'm working on a research project and am trying to compile the "glibc-source" package. Closest docs I could find are for compiling "source packages" but this seems to be a slightly different beast
[15:31] <Ussat> Personally, I rip snap* out of every server install
[15:31] <jnewsome> It's not a "source package" for glibc, but a regular package that happens to contain the glibc sources + patches
[15:32] <Ussat> IMHO snaps that decide when to update themselvs outside of my controll have no place in an enterprise server
[15:32] <jnewsome> it's not clear how to use the contents to configure + compile the glibc source in a way consistent with the system's glibc
[15:33] <Ussat> and TBH if that gets to the point whee I cant, I wont use Ubuntu
[15:33] <jnewsome> (I tried #ubuntu first; they suggested I try here)
[15:33] <daftykins> strange since it sounds like a support query
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> i suggested jnewsome he discuss here as we dont really support own compiles
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> but oh well, ioria is already helping
[15:52] <daftykins> oh i knew it was you ;)
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> its a real user this time daftykins :p
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> Ussat: lxd was default snap on -server now right?