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chakravantiwhy is the snap store missing software?01:31
coffeecowHello! After an update to my AVR and Ubuntu I am no longer able to use my AVR like a bluetooth speaker! Now I get a segfault in bluetoothd error 4 when I try to connect after pairing.01:33
tomreyn!details01:34
ubottuPlease elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.01:34
fannagogannahi, maybe have an "strace on processes may illuminate something" question. Running "strace ls" and other straightforward, resource-light commands. I get minutes and minutes of "mmap(NULL, 8388608, PROT_READ, MAP_SHARED, 18, 0xefa000), munmap(0x7fdaa86b5000, 8388608)         = 0". Any idea what might be causing this, or is it an empty symptom -- say in a person, a tummy ache could be indigestion, could be cancer?02:11
tomreynwhat, if anything, is the problem you're trying to solve?02:22
tomreynfannagoganna: ^02:22
fannagoganna@tomreyn high level, why is my machine so slow (even for nominally resource-light processes), when running "top" or looking at syslog does not indicate obvious problems?02:31
bparkerwithout more info we could only guess02:31
bparkerI'll say hard drive, if it's not SSD02:31
Netwolffannagoganna: show you screenshot of top02:31
Netwolfalso yes disk writes or the disk dying02:32
bparkeralso what task is it exactly that becomes slow, and when02:32
bparkerand for how long02:32
Netwolfsee all of these may need very seperate tools02:32
Netwolfi miss truss in solaris02:33
Netwolfalso solaris02:33
Jaydenhi02:43
fannagoganna@netwolf here is a screenshot03:27
fannagogannahttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WVR3e4Yc/Screen%20Shot%202020-06-20%20at%208.26.48%20PM.png03:27
fannagoganna@bparker tasks like "ls", they become slow "randomly, whenever"03:27
fannagogannaI suppose correct way to move forward is to diagnose why "ls" is slow, and fix. That's a priority zero issue for me.03:28
matsamanfannagoganna: so you boot up your system fresh, you run 'ls' on a directory that doesn't have zillions of files, and it takes ages?03:36
fannagoganna@matsaman that is correct.03:38
fannagogannawhen I do "strace ls" I get pairs of up to 80 "mmap..munmap". Sometimes machine takes a few seconds to go from one "mmap..munmap" to the next.03:39
matsamanfannagoganna: what about 'find . -xdev -maxdepth 1 -mindepth 1'03:41
bparkerwhat about a command that doesn't need to look at/hit the disk03:46
fannagogannalike ping?03:46
bparkerpreferably a ping binary copied to a tmpfs03:46
bparkerbut yea03:46
fannagogannaI haven't copied a binary to the tmpfs, but ping seems to work fine03:49
fannagogannaas in, no network issues, runs smoothly03:49
fannagogannahmm, although I have an LVM setup over several disks, I have unmounted an LVM partition that largely covers a failing hard disk. Now operations are completely smooth.04:24
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IonTauhi everyone05:06
IonTauany suggestions to work out a networking issue where the link is up but all networking is not working05:07
IonTauthe issue is weird and hard to work back from...05:09
IonTauso the phyiscal link is up05:09
IonTaubut all networking, incoming and outgoing stops working05:09
matsamanIonTau: like you can't even reach your router?05:13
IonTaumatsaman, yes...05:15
IonTaujust waiting for it fail again to traceroute to make sure it's not a routing issue05:15
IonTaunothing in dmesg05:15
IonTauat this staging starting to take wild guesses what it might be05:17
pymagicwhere are these mounts coming from: gvfsd-fuse on /run/user/1000/gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=1000) ?05:19
pymagicI dont remember installing fuse/gvfs05:19
pymagicI am getting these errors on updatedb -> /usr/bin/find: '/run/user/1000/gvfs': Permission denied05:19
pymagic 05:19
IonTauoh... looks like the network driver is crashing06:31
dex1983hi08:31
dex1983how I can mount this sort of partition in ubuntu08:36
dex1983https://pastebin.com/ycGAphi508:36
dex1983it was not mounted automatically with ubuntu lts installation :-(08:36
zetheroosomething is waking up my laptop from suspend. I cannot find anything online about this. When the laptop (T450s) is in suspend I can hear pidgin connecting every so often, and then when I do open the laptop lid after some hours I see all the Freenode connection messages in pidgin.09:06
zetheroomaybe this output from journalctl helps? https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/CYkTP2xZ4q/09:08
tomreynzetheroo: this log starts with the system being resumed, there's no indication on what happened before that, no pause on these logs.09:52
tomreyn(i.e. provide more logs, covering the point you initiated suspend to the point where it returned from suspend)09:53
zetheroo tomreyn: this?  https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/ZZCCBYX7r9/09:56
zetherooI can see that ^ happening again and again09:58
tomreynthis, too, doesn't cover the full range, but it does cover a log gap. apparently it never fully entered suspend10:00
tomreyn!acpi_osi10:00
ubottuIf your system is unstable or power management does not work well and logs show ACPI issues, you can try to make the Linux kernel pretend it was Windows during boot (which can help on hardware which was only tested with Windows): http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html10:00
tomreynother than that, a bios upgrade can help, too10:00
zetherooI only experienced this right after doing the upgrade from 18.04 to 20.0410:03
tomreynthis upgrade isn't supported, yet. maybe try a fresh install and see whether it also happens there.10:05
zetherooand it seems I already have the latest BIOS for my laptop10:07
zetherooyeah, I was really hoping not to have to do a fresh install :/10:07
dex1983anyone has an idea?10:12
zap0my ubuntu machine for no reason just logged off, and now the user and password don't work anymore.10:13
zap0wtf is that about?10:13
tomreyndex1983: this is an LVM2 PV (a logical volume manager physical volume).10:18
dex1983ok how I could mount it?10:18
MrElendigzap0: error being?10:18
zap0i don't know, i turned away from it for ~90 secs.   when apt-get update  was running.   when i looked back it's logged out10:19
tomreyndex1983: it's not a file system you can mount directly. use lvm commands (pv*, vg*, lv*).10:20
dex1983oh ok10:21
tomreynzap0: if your password no longer works, you can reboot to recovery and login without password there.10:22
zap0ok, what is the magic keys for doing that?10:23
tomreyn!recovery10:23
ubottuIf your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode10:23
tomreynmake sure you note down the time when it roughly happened so you can review the logs around when it happened later10:23
tomreynsysstemctl -b -1   to view the logs from the previous kernel session (i.e. before last reboot)10:24
tomreynor e.g.    jounrnalctl --since "2020-06-20 23:00:00" --until "2020-06-21 10:00:00"     to limit output to a specific period.10:26
tomreynzetheroo: you can install to removable media instead, thus not touching your existing installation.10:27
dex1983hmm but how I can mount it getting only got this: mount: /media/storage: /dev/ubuntu-vg is not a block device.10:27
tomreyndex1983: vg is a collection of logicial volumes, which are the LVM equivalent of partitions.10:29
tomreynyou do not run the mount command against anything but file systems10:30
tomreynit's common that logical volumes will contain file systems (but theny don't need to, and not immediately, there could be more intermediate layers, such as dm-crypt/LUKS block device encyption)10:31
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dex1983hmm ok10:36
MrElendigdex1983: what was the exact mount command you ran?10:37
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BlueShark_Hi, I sometimes receive a "Ubuntu 20.04 has experienced an internal error" message. The Title is "gnome-control-centre crashed with SIGSEV". Is this a known bug?11:12
tomreynBlueShark_: this message will occur with many different errors, it's not yet enough to tell whether this is a known error. you can inspect the contents of the /var/crash/ directory (e.g. run apport-unpack against the recently created gnome-control-center crash log, if it's still there) to get more technical details (it's very technical, though).11:16
tomreynBlueShark_: if you chose to report the problem or it was reported automatically, this error will also show up on the list of errors your system reported. this list can be viewed in your web browser when you run    x-www-browser https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/$(sudo cat /var/lib/whoopsie/whoopsie-id)    in your terminal11:19
BlueShark_tomreyn: I did `apport-unpack /var/crash/_usr_bin_gnome-control-center.1000.crash /tmp/logx` - and it displayed an error: "ValueError: ['separator'] has no binary content"11:22
BlueShark_Is that expected?11:23
BlueShark_It created a bunch of files in the destination directory though.11:23
tomreynBlueShark_: if you'll share the url (which contans a key which has been generated to uniquely identify your ubuntu installation) i *may* be able to tell whether this bug was previously reported. alternatively (or in the meantime), you can search for existing bug reports on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center11:23
tomreynBlueShark_: i would think this is more of a non-critical warning11:23
BlueShark_tomreyn: I reported it as well.11:23
zetheroo tomreyn: here it is happening again. what other logs would be interesting? https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/DsC84mxMvw/11:27
tomreynBlueShark_: you seem to have sent me a PM, I drop those by default. i set a temporary exception for you now.11:27
lotuspsychjeBlueShark_: wich kernel are you on?11:37
tomreynBlueShark_: thanks for sending the url in private, i'll look into zetheroo's report now, then come back to yours, please stand by.11:37
tomreynzetheroo: do a full reboot, then enter suspend, wait for it to wake up by itself, then post a full kernel log: journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 999911:39
BluesKaj'Morning all11:39
tomreynBlueShark_: i see it's a fresh installation according to the report. so i guess the ID is rather machine specific, not installation specific. sorry, i wasn't aware of that.11:42
BlueShark_No worries.11:43
tomreynBlueShark_: the error situation failed to be recorded properly. this *may* be due to the proprietary nvidia driver (which can't be automatically debugged).11:44
BlueShark_My graphics card is AMD11:44
tomreynok, so this is a red herring, i guess. this message is pronted on top of the retrace report: "This problem failed to retrace because there was no crash signature after retracing. The following packages are missing debug symbols: libnvidia-gl-440."11:49
tomreynbut this probably just means as little as "for unknown reasons, these crash reports were incomplete."11:50
tomreynBlueShark_: if you'll review your systemd journal you'll notice that amdgpu (AMD graphics driver) specific errors were logged. i only see a small fraction of those, consider uploading a complete log: journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 999911:55
tomreynexample (from X startup):   (EE) client bug: timer event4 debounce short: scheduled expiry is in the past (-6ms), your system is too slow11:55
tomreynyour system is very current and not too slow in terms of hardware, so this will be some firmware / kernel / driver issue.11:56
tomreyntrying updated X + mesa + amdgpu + kernel (sometimes available from a !PPA) *may* help with stabiity issues with newer hardware.11:58
neildugancan I use sshfs to mount one directory on more than one machine?  if I dont edit the same file on both.12:04
dirtwashare some unbutu repos down? my apt update is hanging waiting for headers12:22
dirtwashdunno where its supposed to come from12:23
lotuspsychjedirtwash: could you share a pastebin with your apt output please?12:23
lotuspsychjevolunteers can take a look for you12:24
dirtwashmight be DC mirror issue hm12:24
dirtwashlotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HNyNssfjW7/12:24
dirtwashi guess its the mirror12:24
dirtwashor where are headers coming from12:25
tomreynneildugan: i don't see why you could not. sshfs is a user space file system, though, and thus performance will always suffer. (it's also technically awkward.)12:26
lotuspsychjedirtwash: can you try a sudo apt update without mirror.hetzner.de as a test?12:27
dirtwashlotuspsychje: hm its working after all, ust takes a while12:27
dirtwashlotuspsychje: never mind! thanks anyway, you seem very helpful for people asking semi-silly questions ;)12:27
dirtwashanyone got an idea how to debug a hanging apt install, even though I am using -y and noninteractive mode?12:28
dirtwashunrelated to my update issue12:28
dirtwashif I run it manually it works fine, thats why I am confused12:28
tomreynfor http downloads: apt-get -o 'Debug::Acquire::http=1' update12:29
dirtwashhm but its  hanging right now, guess theres no way to see why12:30
dirtwashapt log doesnt show anything either12:30
dirtwashweird because im only installing base packages:  apt-get -y install apt-transport-https ca-certificates curl gnupg-agent software-properties-common12:31
tomreyni'm seeing problems with tu dresden mirrors currently. 141.30.62.2412:31
dirtwashif i run it manually again it works no issue12:31
dirtwashbut via ansible its hanging, the apt process, and I dont know why12:31
dirtwashor maybe the mirror is super slow hm12:32
tomreynde.archive.ubuntu.com points there12:32
tomreyndirtwash: mirror.hetzner.de resolves to both an IPv4 and an IPv6 address. it's possible that one of them is available why the other isn't12:41
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egraini need a little help. E: Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libe/libepsilon/libepsilon1_0.9.2+dfsg-4_amd64.deb  Connection failed [IP: 141.30.62.22 80]12:46
egraintrying to install blender.12:47
egrainthough sudo apt-get update also doesn't seem to work now that i checked.      0% [Waiting for headers]12:48
egrainisn't a resolv.conf issue. ping works. do i have to change the mirror list. is there a mirror list? how does this work12:49
egrain?12:49
tomreynegrain: try a different apt mirror for now, this one (de.archive.ubuntu.com) is currently broken. i just reported it following the instructions on the channel /topic of #ubuntu-mirrors12:49
tomreyn!mirrors12:49
ubottuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Focal, and help keeping the servers' load low!12:49
tomreynsorry, ignore this message by ubottu12:50
egrainnice of you guys to have a whole channel dedicated to this.12:50
tomreynhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors12:50
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tomreynthis lists mirror servers you can use. look for germany if that's topographically close to you.12:50
tomreynthe mirrors your system uses can be edited in software-properties-gtk (GUI) or using   sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list  (terminal)12:52
egraini have that one in there: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ focal main restricted   among others. lots of comments.12:52
egrainhm, there is no list. i guess i have to add one manually then?12:53
raddyHello12:55
raddyI am unable to import ssh keys in Gnome Keyring12:55
JFalkenGreets everyone. I'm trying to get the right nvidia drivers loaded for my laptop running 20.04. When I run 'ubuntu-drivers list' I get a warning ' has bad syntax: version number does not start with digit' Not sure if this is related. Can anyone help?12:55
raddyimport button is grayed out12:55
lotuspsychjeraddy: what gives: sudo lshw -C video ?12:56
lotuspsychjeJFalken: ^12:56
lotuspsychjeraddy: sorry not for you12:56
JFalkenlotuspsychje, Looking for something specific? Or should I pastebin the whole output?12:57
lotuspsychjeJFalken: yeah pastebin please12:57
JFalkenlotuspsychje, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GnzM5JVHzb/12:58
egrainanyway, worked. i used us.archive. thanks a bunch.12:59
JFalken2nd display is an external monitor12:59
lotuspsychjeJFalken: these are 2 seperate graphics or a hybrid card nvidia intel?13:00
tomreynegrain: thanks for reporting back. i've also pinged the mirror admin on irc13:00
JFalkenlotuspsychje, I believe 2 separate.  New laptop I didn't buy.  Not sure.13:00
lotuspsychjeJFalken: can you try software&sources tab adittional drivers, see if your drivers show up there?13:01
JFalkenlotuspsychje, it says it's using NVIDIA driver metapackage from nvidia-driver-440.  That means I should be good?13:03
lotuspsychjeJFalken: no, cause lshw says your nvidia is unclaimed, something makes it not load driver13:03
lotuspsychjeJFalken: can you share your dmesg in a pastebin please?13:04
JFalkenSure, one sec13:04
lotuspsychjeJFalken: also its just 440 showing or do you see other nvidia driver versions in additional drivers list?13:04
BluesKajlooks like optimus13:04
JFalkenlotuspsychje, it lists 435 and 390 as well.  Plus Nouveau13:06
lotuspsychjeJFalken: ok tnx13:06
JFalkenlotuspsychje, https://termbin.com/3mf313:07
JFalkenAnd yes.. I upgraded the kernel to fix a network driver issue =(13:08
kel_does ubuntu 20 support hdmi in so i can connect a ps4 to a laptop?13:08
lotuspsychjeJFalken: lets try to get you booted into 20.04 default kernel first13:08
lotuspsychjeJFalken: so we can rule out its kernel related13:08
lotuspsychje!info linux-image-generic13:08
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4.0.37.40 (focal), package size 2 kB, installed size 17 kB13:08
JFalkenlotuspsychje, I finally got my network card to stop dropping off the network with the kernel I'm on.  I'm a little reluctant to go back to 5.413:09
lotuspsychjeJFalken: its just as a test13:09
JFalkenOk, cool13:09
lotuspsychjeJFalken: if it doesnt fix, id reccomend going to driver 43513:09
JFalkenI still have it installed, I can just change it in grub?13:09
lotuspsychjeJFalken: yeah, just one time boot into 5.4 with holding shift at boot, enter grub, pick13:10
JFalkenUgh, I'm on the laptop now.. Let me reboot and I'll be back!13:11
JFalkenlotuspsychje, sorry took a couple tries (and used esc key)13:17
JFalken$ uname -r13:17
JFalken5.4.0-37-generic13:17
lotuspsychjeJFalken: check if driver loaded again with sudo lshw -C video13:17
JFalkenStill says UNCLAIMED13:18
lotuspsychjeJFalken: allrighty, lets try a switch to driver version 435 then13:18
JFalkenlotuspsychje, and then another reboot?13:19
lotuspsychjeyes13:19
BlueShark_`lsmod | grep amd` - this shows some output. Does that mean I don't need to install proprietary drivers from AMD website?13:19
lotuspsychjeBlueShark_: sudo lshw -C video13:20
JFalkenlotuspsychje, 5.4 kernel again?13:20
BlueShark_lotuspsychje: https://termbin.com/shqv13:20
lotuspsychjeBlueShark_: driver=amdgpu is loaded13:21
lotuspsychjeJFalken: well we proved its also happening on kernel 5.4 now, so you can choose now13:21
BlueShark_lotuspsychje: I didn't install it manually, so it auto-installed?13:21
lotuspsychjeBlueShark_: ubuntu driver modules always try to auto install at booting13:21
lotuspsychjeauto load13:22
lotuspsychjeif possible/available13:22
JFalkenlotuspsychje, I got an error applying changes: pk-client-error-quark: Error while installing package13:22
lotuspsychjeJFalken: you have external ppa's that could interfere with the install?13:22
JFalkenlotuspsychje, I think the only external ppa is for network card backports13:23
lotuspsychjeJFalken: wich command did you use?13:23
JFalkenlotuspsychje, someone walked me through it.. I git it from kernel.org github13:25
lotuspsychjesorry?13:25
lotuspsychjei mean wich command did you use to switch nvidia drivers13:26
JFalkenSorry, still on my first cup of coffee.. I did it via software & updates13:26
lotuspsychjeah13:26
lotuspsychjedoes it show loaded?13:26
JFalkenIt says installed nvidia-dkms-435 package post-installation script returned an error13:26
JFalkenBut no, it still has 440 selected13:27
lotuspsychjeJFalken: ok lets try: sudo apt purge nvidia*13:27
JFalkenE: Unable to locate package nvidia*13:28
lotuspsychjeJFalken: this will make you fallback to nouveau, then reboot and !nomodeset (if needed) to get in your system and try installing 435 again13:28
lotuspsychjeyikes13:28
JFalkenThat can't be right tho.. apt list shows they are installed13:28
lotuspsychjeJFalken: is your system up to date?13:29
JFalkenYessir13:29
JFalkenAlso, fwiw.. apt list shows: nvidia-driver-435/focal,now 435.21-0ubuntu7 amd64 [installed]13:30
lotuspsychjeJFalken: try a reboot, lets see what happens13:30
JFalkenok, brb13:30
JFalkenlotuspsychje, when I logged in I got an error saying system program problem detected13:32
lotuspsychjeJFalken: what does it say when you unfold details?13:33
JFalkenI only had an option to report errors or cancel13:33
JFalkenHowever software & updates shows 435 driver now13:34
lotuspsychjeJFalken: sudo lshw -C video13:34
JFalkenStill unclaimed =(13:34
lotuspsychjenot good13:34
JFalkenI'm telling you, this laptop has been a huge pain in the ass13:35
JFalkenEven with a fresh install, I had tons of network card issues as well13:35
JFalkenAny other suggestions?13:36
lotuspsychjeJFalken: well, some brands have a major pain with intel wifi/realtek combo's13:36
lotuspsychjeJFalken: what was the last time you recall nvidia graphics were working on this system?13:36
JFalkenI don't know if they ever have.  This all started from trying to figure out why the fans are still running during suspend.  That's how I noticed the issue.13:37
lotuspsychjewich brand of laptop is this?13:37
JFalkenMSI13:37
lotuspsychjeright, bios version doesnt seem that old neither hmmz13:38
JFalkenYeah, pretty new BIOS, new OS, new kernel.. I'm out of ideas =(13:39
lotuspsychjeJFalken: could try the 390 too, but might get into same dkms issue13:39
lotuspsychjealso your GTX card should get more pleased with higher nvidia versions13:40
JFalkenIs there something newer than 440?13:40
JFalkenI guess I can google that13:41
lotuspsychjeJFalken: well there is the ubuntu graphics ppa, wich provides the latest driver versions13:41
lotuspsychje!nvidia13:41
ubottuFor nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing » For the latest Nvidia drivers see https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa13:41
lotuspsychjeJFalken: but i would not reccomend, until we find the root reason of why your nvidia modules doesnt load13:41
JFalkenLooks like 440 is the latest in that PPA anyway13:42
lotuspsychjeppa one is .2613:42
lotuspsychjethe one from ubuntu repos is .21 so it seems13:42
JFalkenAh13:43
JFalkenThink it would make any difference?13:43
lotuspsychjeJFalken: no, as i say, we need to find the reason why first13:44
JFalkenGot it13:44
lotuspsychjeJFalken: what happens when you pick nouveau in additional drivers?13:44
JaydenHello13:44
JaydenI wish I didnt have to log in every time I use hexchat13:44
lotuspsychjeJayden: use the SASL method13:45
JFalkenlotuspsychje, I can give it a try, but I think I disabled it in grub.  I assume I'll have to remove that modset?13:45
JaydenWtf is SASL?13:45
JaydenJFalken I try to set a grub theme but it never applies... Even a background picture doesnt work13:46
JaydenI have been troubleshooting for days13:46
JFalkenJayden, I used to have it on an old dual boot machine.  Currently trying to figure out nvidia driver issues =(13:47
MrElendigJayden: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/hexchat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Authentication_and_Security_Layer13:47
JFalkenBut lotuspsychje has been super helpful and patient so far :)13:47
neilduganhow do I find out why a nfs server is not exporting a directory.  "exportfs -a" list the directory at the correct IP range.13:47
JaydenI dont have driver issues13:47
JaydenI am not that advanced13:48
JaydenI only know few terminal commands13:48
JFalkenThis new laptop has driver issues =(13:48
JaydenTook so long to find out how to run a bin file13:48
JFalken(Among other issues)13:48
JaydenThis laptop has integrated graphics :(13:48
Jaydenand a 1 TB 5k RPM hard drive13:49
JaydenIntel core i313:49
JaydenIts always loud13:49
lotuspsychjeJFalken: can you pastebin the whole output after: sudo apt install nvidia-driver-39013:49
lotuspsychjeJayden: please only ubuntu issues here13:49
JFalkenlotuspsychje, sure.  Please hold13:49
JaydenWhats the keyboard shortcut for terminal13:50
JFalkenlotuspsychje, "nvidia-driver-390 : Depends: xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-390 (= 390.132-0ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed"13:50
neilduganJayden, <ctrl><alt>T13:50
JaydenJfalken, Let me remind you that Drivers arent REQUIRED13:50
lotuspsychjeJFalken: pastebin your sources.list and sources.list.d13:51
JaydenMy dad told me linux didnt need drivers13:51
leftyfbJayden: all hardware requires drivers13:53
JFalkenlotuspsychje, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HvmYctxMYK/13:53
JaydenI use TunnelBear VPN13:53
leftyfbJayden: do you have a support question?13:53
JaydenYeah13:54
JaydenWhy is it that when I try to connect to my VPN it asks me for password a thousand times and fails to connect13:54
leftyfbJayden: does it connect one of those thousand times?13:54
Jaydennope13:54
Jaydenfails at the end13:55
leftyfbJayden: did it ever work?13:55
JaydenIt used to work13:55
neilduganhow do I find out why a nfs server is not exporting a directory (permission denied).  "exportfs -a" list the directory at the correct IP range.13:55
JaydenBut after shutting off and turning back on it never worked13:55
leftyfbJayden: are you typing the password correct? Do you have if configured correctly? Did you try contacting TunnelBear support?13:55
lotuspsychjeJFalken: please lets try disable all external ppa's and try again with nvidia drivers13:55
JaydenI am putting that password in13:56
JFalkenlotuspsychje, how do I do that? =)13:56
JaydenI tried connecting to other countries also that didnt work13:56
lotuspsychje!ppapurge | JFalken13:56
ubottuJFalken: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html13:56
JFalkenlotuspsychje, this won't remove my network drivers?13:56
JFalkenAlso, should I remove each one by one?13:57
JFalkenI know I definitely don't need the first one. I'll remove that now13:58
lotuspsychjeJFalken: perhaps leave your network tweak enabled13:59
JFalkenlotuspsychje, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gMynwrDQrC/ =(14:00
lotuspsychjeJFalken: ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-5.6.17-050617-generic is not s14:01
lotuspsychjeupported14:01
lotuspsychjeError! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 5.6.17-050617-generic (x86_14:01
lotuspsychje64)14:01
lotuspsychjeJFalken: try to ppapurge all your external ppa's and boot back into 5.4 and try there installing nvidia drivers14:03
JFalkenlotuspsychje, says it can't find the package list for the first one14:04
JFalkenI'll try to go back to the 5.4 kernel and try?14:04
lotuspsychjeJFalken: yeah i would play on 5.4 as things conflict on your 5.6 so it seems14:05
JFalkenCan you remind me how to make 5.4 default so I don't have to keep going through grub to pick?14:05
lotuspsychjeJFalken: well if you messing with !mainline, it will always try to pick latest kernel as default14:06
JFalkenAh14:06
lotuspsychjeJFalken: but in your case your wifi gets fixed in 5.6, if you purge 5.6 you dont get online anymore14:07
lotuspsychjeso choices..14:07
bjarne333My digital ocean box suddenly become unresponsive. The tcp connections are setup and nmap shows e.g. port 80 and 443 open, but communication on those connections times out. SSH also times out. help?14:07
JFalkenlotuspsychje, tbh.. I don't care that much about the drivers if I can just get the fans to stop while in suspend.  But I'm not sure if they are related issues14:08
JaydenHaving fans off when suspended is a bad idea14:08
JaydenHaving the fans on is useful because your computer will be nice and cool next time you hop on14:09
lotuspsychjeJFalken: my approach would be working systematicly, playing on the default kernel as base, if something doesnt work, file a bug about it14:09
JFalkenlotuspsychje, fair enough.  I'll roll back to 5.4 and go from there.  What's the easiest way to do that?14:09
JFalkenJust with mainline?14:10
JaydenHow do I create a Freenode channel14:10
lotuspsychjeJFalken: you got 5.4 installed already, so if you want it default again, think purging all higher kernels will set you back14:11
JFalkenlotuspsychje, ok.. I'll boot back to 5.4, remove 5.6, see if I can remove PPAs.  Anything else?14:11
lotuspsychjeJFalken: no, we need to fix that dkms conflict first14:12
JFalkenOk, lemme start there. Are you going to be around?14:12
lotuspsychjesure14:12
JFalkenExcellent. Back in a few.14:12
ActualI wrote this in #lubuntu but nobody is alive. Can someone explain to me why Lubuntu is not supporting firmware for older computers, when old computers are their main useage14:12
Actual>.<14:12
lotuspsychjeActual: its sunday today, things get a little bit slower in response14:13
Actual=Gotcha14:13
lotuspsychjeActual: whats not working exactly?14:13
ActualWorship the world or just taking a note from Judeochristians and using it as a day off?14:14
lotuspsychjeActual: lets not14:14
ActualMy fucking WiFi, of all the things14:14
ActualNo problem. Dropped.14:14
ActualLuckily Parrot, in its infinite wisdom is kicking lubuntu's ass.14:17
Jaydenhttps://pastebin.com/103f6zax14:18
Actuallol!14:18
ActualMoo.14:18
JaydenLol14:18
JFalkenlotuspsychje, I got rid of 5.6.. back to running on 5.414:24
JFalkenAnd I removed the PPA I know I didn't need14:24
JFalkenlshw still shows unclaimed14:25
lotuspsychjeJFalken: ok try to switch/purge/install nvidia drivers now14:25
JFalkenFrom additional drivers?14:25
JFalken(additional drivers shows it's using 435)14:26
JFalkenlotuspsychje, or should I just try to switch back to 440 now?14:27
lotuspsychjeJFalken: lets try to 435 first14:28
JFalkenlotuspsychje, 435 is already selected. Also, fwiw, ubuntu-drivers list now shows all three14:28
Jaydenhttps://pastebin.com/103f6zax14:28
lotuspsychjeJayden: stop that14:29
JaydenLinux in NTFS14:29
JaydenLinux is secretly in NTFS14:30
lotuspsychjeJayden: dont random chitchat in here, use another channel for that14:31
JFalkenlotuspsychje, addtional drivers has 435 already selected.  Should I apt purge and start from scratch?14:32
lotuspsychjeJFalken: yeah nvidia drivers switch/install should go smoothly...if not something still blocking it14:35
JFalkenlotuspsychje, still says unable to locate package nvidia*14:35
JFalkenMaybe I can switch to 440 and try and then back to 435?14:36
lotuspsychjeJFalken: sure14:39
JFalkenlotuspsychje, switched to 440, no errors applying changes14:42
lotuspsychjeaha!14:42
JFalkenAlthough, still unclaimed in lshw14:42
JFalkenI need to reboot?14:43
JFalkenI'll reboot.. brb14:44
JFalkenlotuspsychje, still no dice =(14:47
lotuspsychjeJFalken: lets have a look at your current dmesg plz?14:47
JFalkensure14:47
JFalkenlotuspsychje, https://termbin.com/wc9k14:48
lotuspsychjeJFalken: this is a weird puzzle, its like your dmesg skips nvidia output14:52
lotuspsychjeJFalken: you are not using kvm or virtualizing things?14:52
JFalkenI do have vmware installed for other VMs, but this isn't in a VM14:53
lotuspsychjeallright14:54
lotuspsychjeJFalken: ok 3 other things to wonder, iwlwifi dkms git interfere? vmware dkms conflict? nouveau blacklist take off and try purge nvidia*14:56
JFalkenlotuspsychje, Not sure about the other 2, but I can try purging the nvidia drivers.. although nvidia* doesn't seem to work14:58
lotuspsychjeJFalken: yeah, but maybe if you take off the nouveau blacklist, we could switch succesfully to nouveau14:59
JFalkenYeah, that's what I was thinking14:59
lotuspsychjeJFalken: and hopefully install to nvidia properly14:59
JFalkenlotuspsychje, so.. update grub, and switch to nouveau?15:00
lotuspsychjethink ive seen dmks conflicts with vmware/virtualbox in the past aswell15:00
lotuspsychjeyeah take the line off, sudo update-grub reboot switch to nouveau try nvidia install15:01
JFalkenlotuspsychje, roger15:02
TheFuSeeing some sort of DKMS nvidia failures here too.  Anytime a new kernel gets installed, just need to force a reinstall of the nvidia drivers to have them work. Nouveau wasn't working at the desired resolution for the old nvidia ...15:04
dex1983can someone help me with mounting an lvm volume please15:05
TheFuso splurged for a new GPU - 1030.15:05
TheFudex1983, sure15:05
dex1983great thansk15:05
dex1983https://pastebin.com/2NE0D6qy15:06
dex1983I want to mount the 10T /dev/sda3 partition15:06
dex1983How I could made it15:06
TheFuhave to step away ... baking ready15:06
JFalkenlotuspsychje, I can't seem to remove the nvidia drivers apt purge nvidia* says it can't locate them15:08
lotuspsychjeJFalken: what happens GUI on additional drivers when picking nouveau now?15:09
JFalkenlotuspsychje, I was able to switch to nouveau.  No issues15:10
JFalken(and I've also rebooted after switching)15:10
lotuspsychjeJFalken: sudo lshw -C video to verify15:10
JFalkenlotuspsychje, it doesn't show unclaimed now15:11
lotuspsychjeallrighty15:11
TheFudex1983, how about some LVM output? sudo vgs; sudo lvs ; please15:11
dex1983ok15:11
JFalkenlotuspsychje, progress?15:11
lotuspsychjeJFalken: ok lets try sudo apt install your-nvidia-driver from terminal now15:11
JFalkenlotuspsychje, ubuntu-drivers still show they are all installed15:12
JFalkennvidia-driver-435, (kernel modules provided by linux-modules-nvidia-435-generic-hwe-20.04)15:12
dex1983https://pastebin.com/9JiBxEZC15:12
JFalken(and also 390 and 44015:13
JFalken)15:13
lotuspsychjeJFalken: what ubuntu-driver shows, it doesnt mean its installed, but available for your card15:13
JFalkenAh15:13
JFalkenApt list doesn't show any installed15:14
lotuspsychjeyeah, manual install one JFalken15:14
JFalkenlotuspsychje, which driver should I try? 435 or 440?15:14
dex1983maybe the lvm outputs helps TheFu15:14
JFalken50/50 guess =)15:14
lotuspsychjeJFalken: 435 to avoid the 440 bug on 20.04 (in case)15:15
TheFuDon't see any LV that can be mounted w/ 10T.  Have you created the LV?15:15
JFalkenlotuspsychje, nvidia-utils?15:16
lotuspsychjesorry?15:16
JFalkenlotuspsychje, there are quite a few nvidia packages.  Trying to figure out which to install15:17
dex1983hmm do not think so15:17
dex1983how I could create the 10T volume?15:17
lotuspsychjeJFalken: sudo apt install nvidia-driver-43515:17
JFalkenlotuspsychje, thanks.. installing now15:18
JFalkenThen a reboot?15:18
lotuspsychjeyeah15:18
JFalkenkk15:18
TheFuThe VG doesn't have quite 10T.  if you need 10T, then more storage needs to be added to the system either all new or to the VG.15:19
BluesKajdoes nvidia still need dkms to build the driver?15:19
JFalkenlotuspsychje, installed without issue, but lshw is back to unclaimed now15:21
dex1983hmm ok15:21
TheFudex1983, use lvcreate to make an LV.  i wouldn't use the entire available storage because then we lose out on many of the capabilites that make LVM so great.15:21
dex1983hmm ok15:21
dex1983maybe I create it new15:21
dex1983it is virtualized with proxmox :-(15:21
dex1983and reinstall ubuntu server15:22
dex1983should I use then lvm or is ext4 also ok?15:22
TheFui'd only put the storage needed for the next 4-6 months into an LV.15:22
lotuspsychjeJFalken: going for food first bbl15:22
JFalkenlotuspsychje, ok, thanks for the help!15:22
dex1983can I add it later a bigger storage with lvm and proxmox?15:23
TheFuHaving 10-20% unused means we can do snapshots for backups and some other nice things.15:23
TheFui know very little about proxmox.15:23
TheFuThere is 9.8TB in the VG15:24
bjarne333ah, I used proxmox in my last job15:25
TheFui use lvm to directly provide storage to VMs. each VM gets a separate LV from the host storage.15:26
dex1983Ah ok so you are using vmware?15:27
TheFuNeeded to extend a LV last week on a running VM. Added a new vDisk to a running VM, extended the VG usng that new storage and extended the LV - all while the VM was running.15:27
TheFudex1983, i use KVM+libvirt on Ubuntu Server15:28
dex1983ah ok15:29
TheFuBeen doing VMs since the 1990s on many different platforms.15:30
dex1983wow cool15:30
TheFudex1983, did you create the LV yet or are you re-thinking storage for VMs?15:31
dex1983hmm I am using proxmox ve with ZFS partitioning15:32
TheFuif using ZFS, don't use LVM.15:32
dex1983yep I thought so15:32
dex1983not a good idea15:32
TheFuBut you've already got LVM.15:33
TheFuvgs shows 10T15:33
dex1983and in the virtual machine installation of ubuntu server which partition I should use15:33
dex1983?15:34
TheFuThink we've gone OT for this channel. Best to ask "why" and "design" questions elsewhere.15:34
dex1983OT?15:35
TheFuoff topic15:35
dex1983ok because not so ubuntu related?15:35
TheFuThey want Q --> answers (command) here.15:35
dex1983ok15:36
PaddyFhello. sorry to intrude your virtual homes with this question, but how can i check whether a software is in the repository when i dont have ubuntu installed yet?17:07
tieinvcheck https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/17:25
oerheksand/or snapcraft.io17:28
seven-elevenhi18:05
seven-elevendid someone upgrade 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS lately?18:06
seven-eleveni read in this channel that the bug should have been resolved by now, but I upgraded six 18.04 LTS machines to 20.04 and each of them encountered the same bug18:06
seven-elevenlibcrypt.so.1 bug that is18:07
FreeBDSMseven-eleven: just came here to ask how to upgrade ubuntu 18.04 LTS -> 20.04 LTS, saw your messages and now I think I'll wait a few months more18:09
lotuspsychje!ltsupgrade | seven-eleven FreeBDSM18:10
ubottuseven-eleven FreeBDSM: Regular upgrades from 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS will be enabled once 20.04.1 is released in late July. This delay helps to ensure that any lingering issues are resolved before people upgrade production systems. If you'd prefer to upgrade now, use sudo do-release-upgrade -d18:10
seven-elevenFreeBDSM, you can upgrade now but you should take note how18:10
seven-elevenFreeBDSM, open two terminals, one where you do the upgrade and the second should be logged in as root18:11
seven-elevennow when the first terminal where you do the upgrade fails you run following commands from the root terminal18:11
seven-elevenhttps://dpaste.org/dZQM18:12
seven-eleventhen switch back to the window where the upgrade failed and run `apt install --fix-broken`18:12
FreeBDSMseven-eleven: no, thanks18:12
seven-elevenafter that continue the upgrade with `apt full-upgrade`18:12
seven-elevenlotuspsychje, yeah, I guess I started a month too early, but it sounded like the issue from march was fixed for the -d switch too18:13
seven-elevenlast two machines are in the middle of the upgrade, then I will have 5 years no worries about any upgrades \o/18:19
FreeBDSMriiight18:19
mr_louI've been having some issues lately. After 12+ hours the whole system becomes very slow, to a point where it's visually noticable when scrolling down a webpage, or looking at other UI stuff. A ps ax shows the a few Wine apps are running that I did not start, but killing these processes doesn't speed things back up. Also some pxgsetting is running in multiple instances, but killing those doesn't speed things back up either.18:39
aliendude5300Looking for a new laptop and I see on on eBay that is a fantastic deal. It's BIOS locked though. I want to know if I would be able to install Ubuntu on it. Any idea? https://www.ebay.com/itm/P-R-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T470s-BIOS-LOCK-Intel-i5-6300U-20GB-DDR4-Win-10-TL0135/333626616473?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1431.l264918:44
aliendude5300The description says it has Windows 10 on it and boots to the OS, so I imagine that if I were to find a way to load linux onto that OS and put it back in the system it'd work even if it couldn't boot from USB18:45
aliendude5300"Device is wiped to factory defaults and ready for use. Device is BIOS LOCKED and being sold as is. It can run Windows 10 and most applications." Would it be a bad idea to buy it?18:45
aliendude5300Or would something like this be a better bet even though it has 12GB less RAM? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T470s-i5-6300U-8GB-ram-256GB-SSD-1080p-warranty/193524688871?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1431.l264918:47
kk4ewtunless you can figure out how to reset the bios i would leave it alone18:47
aliendude5300Yeah, I figured :( It's such a shame though as the bios locked one is considerably less expensive18:49
aliendude5300There are tons of like new systems with BIOS passwords on ebay for some reason. I saw like 4 or 5 X280s19:04
tomreynmr_lou:19:27
tomreyn!find pxgsettings19:27
ubottuFound: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 11608 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=pxgsettings&searchon=names&suite=focal&section=all19:27
tomreynokay, that didnb't help. but package libproxy1-plugin-gsettings contains a file /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libproxy/0.4.14/pxgsettings on amd6419:28
tomreynpackage description: "automatic proxy configuration management library (GSettings plugin)"19:28
tomreynit's normal to have this running on the default gnome desktop, but usually just one process tree. and it shouldn't conisume many resources.19:30
seven-elevenapt autoremove wants to remove linux-generic, should I be careful here, linux-generic sounds important19:36
oerhekslook at the version ..19:37
seven-elevenit shows no version, that's why im a bit worried19:37
tomreynif you're running an LTS release and have moved to linux-generic-hwe-YY.MM then it'll be fine.19:38
oerheksoh? share in paste.ubuntu.com please?19:38
seven-elevenhttps://dpaste.org/jaMa19:38
seven-eleventomreyn, yep running LTS, let me check if I have that *hwe* package19:38
tomreynadd -V to apt(-get) to see the package versions19:38
seven-elevennot having generic19:39
seven-elevengot a linux-image-generic19:39
seven-elevenlinux-generic                          5.4.0.37.4019:39
seven-eleveni think i should be careful now, 5.4.0 sounds like the newest version for 20.0419:40
oerheksuname -a gives 5.4.0-37.41 ??19:41
tomreyni guess you want to keep linux-image-generic if you're on focal19:41
seven-eleveni run this command before which lead to the autoremove: https://dpaste.org/OuAE19:41
seven-elevenyes 5.4.0-37-generic19:42
seven-elevenit doesn't say 41 or 40 just 37-generic19:42
seven-elevenoh sorry, i used uname -r. uname -a shows 5.4.0-37-generic #41-Ubuntu19:42
tomreyn!info linux-generic focal-updates19:42
ubottu'focal-updates' is not a valid distribution: bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, cosmic, cosmic-backports, cosmic-proposed, disco, disco-backports, disco-proposed, eoan, eoan-backports, eoan-proposed, focal, focal-backports, focal-proposed, groovy, groovy-backports, groovy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-propo19:42
tomreyn!info linux-generic focal19:42
ubottulinux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4.0.37.40 (focal), package size 1 kB, installed size 17 kB19:42
seven-eleventomreyn, oh thanks, i got bit worried :-)19:43
tomreyni meant to write: i think you want to keep linux-generic if you're on focal (there is no HWE for it, yet)19:45
seven-elevenok reinstalled it19:47
seven-eleveni wonder why it appeared in autoremove, thats not a good sign19:48
ironpillowHi all, when using LVM I am getting this error: "Unable to merge invalidated snapshot LV "ci-snap"."20:27
tarriehas anyone seen ubuntu software app disappear and then reappear a few days later on a fresh 20.04 install?20:53
tarriehappened to me and im not sure why?20:53
melatoninaHello20:57
kostkonmelatonina, hi20:57
melatoninaAre there official instructions on how to fix the issues caused by upgrading to Ubuntu 20.04?20:58
melatoninaMy system asks me to do a partial update and fails, regularly. Then it takes time to perform an "unattended upgrade" each time I shut down or restart, without doing anything, apparently. And the window manager often becomes irresponsive.21:00
oerhekssudo apt install -f # sudo dpkg --configure -a # sudo apt dist-upgrade21:02
melatoninaoerheks: I'll try that. Thanks21:11
beweeshi21:18
beweesim currently on a live usb and I wonder how I can install linux kernel? i tried apt install linux-image-5.4.0-37-generic21:18
beweesmy focal upgrade failed apparently21:19
melatoninaeh21:19
beweesi think i needed linux-generic, looks better now21:21
beweeswhy is grub only generating initrd.img-5.4.0-37-generic21:22
beweesnot vmlinuz hmm21:22
oerheksinstalling a kernel on liveusb session?21:22
oerhekswhy?21:23
beweesoerheks, i rebooted after the focal upgrade but grub had only the old 4.X kernel and failed to boot therefore. now im trying to fix it here21:24
melatoninaoerheks: "dist-upgrade" is doing lots of stuff. I'll report back when it finishes21:26
oerheksbewees, boot in recoverymode and try to fix it with sudo apt install -f21:28
oerheks!recovery21:28
ubottuIf your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode21:28
beweesoerheks, i will try that next boot21:33
beweesoerheks, how can i boot without kernel though?21:38
oerheks"but grub had only the old 4.X kernel" .. weird claim you have no kernel21:45
oerheksand 4.x seems from a previous release?21:45
beweesi tried booting from 4.x21:47
beweesbut then i saw a black screen with one dot blinking21:47
beweesi dont understand why apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic is not installing vmlinuz to boot hmm21:48
melatoninarebooting22:20
TheFuHad a 20.04 mate upgrade make an unbootable system yesterday.  Wasn't paying close attenton as 10 other systems were also beng patched.  Most needed a reboot, so i did.  Rescue-grub was it w/ no file systems found on any storage.  Booted from Try Ubuntu flash and found /boot empty of files.22:46
TheFuDid a chroot w/ bind mounts to install a kernel and update grub. That failed and i could just do a reinstall and backup restore in about 30min to be back.22:48
TheFu"I: The initramfs will attempt to resume from /dev/dm-1" was the message when it stopped upgrading.22:51
TheFuLVM install.22:52
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swine_W: GPG error: http://vpn.simsushare.com/apt  Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available:23:00
swine_why would i be getting this error after i manually added the key with apt-key add?23:01
swine_how on earth is the "public key not available" ?23:01
swine_i just added the damn thing23:01
oerheksinteresting, what guide do you follow?23:05
swine_oerheks, what do you mean?23:06
swine_i added the key with apt-key add which from what i understand is the way to manually add a gpg key. this seemed to have been working with ubuntu 18 but now bombs out with ubuntu 2023:06
oerhekshow do they tell you to install?23:07
swine_there's no "they". i'm the one making the repo23:07
swine_it's my repo with my own key23:07
ghlfrunbHi23:07
ghlfrunbHow can i install vmlinuz zo boot23:07
ghlfrunbIm now booted in my old kernel without de just temrinal23:08
ghlfrunbI tried reinstalling linux-generix and linux-image-generix but thats not installing anything to /boot23:09
Bashing-omghlfrunb: Show us the state of the installed kernels ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' in a pastebin.23:27
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