=== de-facto_ is now known as de-facto === usbguy1 is now known as scrumdaddy === zbenjamin is now known as Guest68363 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:31] why is the snap store missing software? [01:33] Hello! After an update to my AVR and Ubuntu I am no longer able to use my AVR like a bluetooth speaker! Now I get a segfault in bluetoothd error 4 when I try to connect after pairing. [01:34] !details [01:34] Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. [02:11] hi, maybe have an "strace on processes may illuminate something" question. Running "strace ls" and other straightforward, resource-light commands. I get minutes and minutes of "mmap(NULL, 8388608, PROT_READ, MAP_SHARED, 18, 0xefa000), munmap(0x7fdaa86b5000, 8388608) = 0". Any idea what might be causing this, or is it an empty symptom -- say in a person, a tummy ache could be indigestion, could be cancer? [02:22] what, if anything, is the problem you're trying to solve? [02:22] fannagoganna: ^ [02:31] @tomreyn high level, why is my machine so slow (even for nominally resource-light processes), when running "top" or looking at syslog does not indicate obvious problems? [02:31] without more info we could only guess [02:31] I'll say hard drive, if it's not SSD [02:31] fannagoganna: show you screenshot of top [02:32] also yes disk writes or the disk dying [02:32] also what task is it exactly that becomes slow, and when [02:32] and for how long [02:32] see all of these may need very seperate tools [02:33] i miss truss in solaris [02:33] also solaris [02:43] hi [03:27] @netwolf here is a screenshot [03:27] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/WVR3e4Yc/Screen%20Shot%202020-06-20%20at%208.26.48%20PM.png [03:27] @bparker tasks like "ls", they become slow "randomly, whenever" [03:28] I suppose correct way to move forward is to diagnose why "ls" is slow, and fix. That's a priority zero issue for me. [03:36] fannagoganna: so you boot up your system fresh, you run 'ls' on a directory that doesn't have zillions of files, and it takes ages? [03:38] @matsaman that is correct. [03:39] when I do "strace ls" I get pairs of up to 80 "mmap..munmap". Sometimes machine takes a few seconds to go from one "mmap..munmap" to the next. [03:41] fannagoganna: what about 'find . -xdev -maxdepth 1 -mindepth 1' [03:46] what about a command that doesn't need to look at/hit the disk [03:46] like ping? [03:46] preferably a ping binary copied to a tmpfs [03:46] but yea [03:49] I haven't copied a binary to the tmpfs, but ping seems to work fine [03:49] as in, no network issues, runs smoothly [04:24] hmm, although I have an LVM setup over several disks, I have unmounted an LVM partition that largely covers a failing hard disk. Now operations are completely smooth. === dominic35 is now known as dominic34 [05:06] hi everyone [05:07] any suggestions to work out a networking issue where the link is up but all networking is not working [05:09] the issue is weird and hard to work back from... [05:09] so the phyiscal link is up [05:09] but all networking, incoming and outgoing stops working [05:13] IonTau: like you can't even reach your router? [05:15] matsaman, yes... [05:15] just waiting for it fail again to traceroute to make sure it's not a routing issue [05:15] nothing in dmesg [05:17] at this staging starting to take wild guesses what it might be [05:19] where are these mounts coming from: gvfsd-fuse on /run/user/1000/gvfs type fuse.gvfsd-fuse (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1000,group_id=1000) ? [05:19] I dont remember installing fuse/gvfs [05:19] I am getting these errors on updatedb -> /usr/bin/find: '/run/user/1000/gvfs': Permission denied [05:19] [06:31] oh... looks like the network driver is crashing [08:31] hi [08:36] how I can mount this sort of partition in ubuntu [08:36] https://pastebin.com/ycGAphi5 [08:36] it was not mounted automatically with ubuntu lts installation :-( [09:06] something is waking up my laptop from suspend. I cannot find anything online about this. When the laptop (T450s) is in suspend I can hear pidgin connecting every so often, and then when I do open the laptop lid after some hours I see all the Freenode connection messages in pidgin. [09:08] maybe this output from journalctl helps? https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/CYkTP2xZ4q/ [09:52] zetheroo: this log starts with the system being resumed, there's no indication on what happened before that, no pause on these logs. [09:53] (i.e. provide more logs, covering the point you initiated suspend to the point where it returned from suspend) [09:56] tomreyn: this? https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/ZZCCBYX7r9/ [09:58] I can see that ^ happening again and again [10:00] this, too, doesn't cover the full range, but it does cover a log gap. apparently it never fully entered suspend [10:00] !acpi_osi [10:00] If your system is unstable or power management does not work well and logs show ACPI issues, you can try to make the Linux kernel pretend it was Windows during boot (which can help on hardware which was only tested with Windows): http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html [10:00] other than that, a bios upgrade can help, too [10:03] I only experienced this right after doing the upgrade from 18.04 to 20.04 [10:05] this upgrade isn't supported, yet. maybe try a fresh install and see whether it also happens there. [10:07] and it seems I already have the latest BIOS for my laptop [10:07] yeah, I was really hoping not to have to do a fresh install :/ [10:12] anyone has an idea? [10:13] my ubuntu machine for no reason just logged off, and now the user and password don't work anymore. [10:13] wtf is that about? [10:18] dex1983: this is an LVM2 PV (a logical volume manager physical volume). [10:18] ok how I could mount it? [10:18] zap0: error being? [10:19] i don't know, i turned away from it for ~90 secs. when apt-get update was running. when i looked back it's logged out [10:20] dex1983: it's not a file system you can mount directly. use lvm commands (pv*, vg*, lv*). [10:21] oh ok [10:22] zap0: if your password no longer works, you can reboot to recovery and login without password there. [10:23] ok, what is the magic keys for doing that? [10:23] !recovery [10:23] If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode [10:23] make sure you note down the time when it roughly happened so you can review the logs around when it happened later [10:24] sysstemctl -b -1 to view the logs from the previous kernel session (i.e. before last reboot) [10:26] or e.g. jounrnalctl --since "2020-06-20 23:00:00" --until "2020-06-21 10:00:00" to limit output to a specific period. [10:27] zetheroo: you can install to removable media instead, thus not touching your existing installation. [10:27] hmm but how I can mount it getting only got this: mount: /media/storage: /dev/ubuntu-vg is not a block device. [10:29] dex1983: vg is a collection of logicial volumes, which are the LVM equivalent of partitions. [10:30] you do not run the mount command against anything but file systems [10:31] it's common that logical volumes will contain file systems (but theny don't need to, and not immediately, there could be more intermediate layers, such as dm-crypt/LUKS block device encyption) === LabMonkey is now known as Mechanismus [10:36] hmm ok [10:37] dex1983: what was the exact mount command you ran? === PowerTower_121 is now known as PowerTower_120 [11:12] Hi, I sometimes receive a "Ubuntu 20.04 has experienced an internal error" message. The Title is "gnome-control-centre crashed with SIGSEV". Is this a known bug? [11:16] BlueShark_: this message will occur with many different errors, it's not yet enough to tell whether this is a known error. you can inspect the contents of the /var/crash/ directory (e.g. run apport-unpack against the recently created gnome-control-center crash log, if it's still there) to get more technical details (it's very technical, though). [11:19] BlueShark_: if you chose to report the problem or it was reported automatically, this error will also show up on the list of errors your system reported. this list can be viewed in your web browser when you run x-www-browser https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/$(sudo cat /var/lib/whoopsie/whoopsie-id) in your terminal [11:22] tomreyn: I did `apport-unpack /var/crash/_usr_bin_gnome-control-center.1000.crash /tmp/logx` - and it displayed an error: "ValueError: ['separator'] has no binary content" [11:23] Is that expected? [11:23] It created a bunch of files in the destination directory though. [11:23] BlueShark_: if you'll share the url (which contans a key which has been generated to uniquely identify your ubuntu installation) i *may* be able to tell whether this bug was previously reported. alternatively (or in the meantime), you can search for existing bug reports on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center [11:23] BlueShark_: i would think this is more of a non-critical warning [11:23] tomreyn: I reported it as well. [11:27] tomreyn: here it is happening again. what other logs would be interesting? https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/DsC84mxMvw/ [11:27] BlueShark_: you seem to have sent me a PM, I drop those by default. i set a temporary exception for you now. [11:37] BlueShark_: wich kernel are you on? [11:37] BlueShark_: thanks for sending the url in private, i'll look into zetheroo's report now, then come back to yours, please stand by. [11:39] zetheroo: do a full reboot, then enter suspend, wait for it to wake up by itself, then post a full kernel log: journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999 [11:39] 'Morning all [11:42] BlueShark_: i see it's a fresh installation according to the report. so i guess the ID is rather machine specific, not installation specific. sorry, i wasn't aware of that. [11:43] No worries. [11:44] BlueShark_: the error situation failed to be recorded properly. this *may* be due to the proprietary nvidia driver (which can't be automatically debugged). [11:44] My graphics card is AMD [11:49] ok, so this is a red herring, i guess. this message is pronted on top of the retrace report: "This problem failed to retrace because there was no crash signature after retracing. The following packages are missing debug symbols: libnvidia-gl-440." [11:50] but this probably just means as little as "for unknown reasons, these crash reports were incomplete." [11:55] BlueShark_: if you'll review your systemd journal you'll notice that amdgpu (AMD graphics driver) specific errors were logged. i only see a small fraction of those, consider uploading a complete log: journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999 [11:55] example (from X startup): (EE) client bug: timer event4 debounce short: scheduled expiry is in the past (-6ms), your system is too slow [11:56] your system is very current and not too slow in terms of hardware, so this will be some firmware / kernel / driver issue. [11:58] trying updated X + mesa + amdgpu + kernel (sometimes available from a !PPA) *may* help with stabiity issues with newer hardware. [12:04] can I use sshfs to mount one directory on more than one machine? if I dont edit the same file on both. [12:22] are some unbutu repos down? my apt update is hanging waiting for headers [12:23] dunno where its supposed to come from [12:23] dirtwash: could you share a pastebin with your apt output please? [12:24] volunteers can take a look for you [12:24] might be DC mirror issue hm [12:24] lotuspsychje: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HNyNssfjW7/ [12:24] i guess its the mirror [12:25] or where are headers coming from [12:26] neildugan: i don't see why you could not. sshfs is a user space file system, though, and thus performance will always suffer. (it's also technically awkward.) [12:27] dirtwash: can you try a sudo apt update without mirror.hetzner.de as a test? [12:27] lotuspsychje: hm its working after all, ust takes a while [12:27] lotuspsychje: never mind! thanks anyway, you seem very helpful for people asking semi-silly questions ;) [12:28] anyone got an idea how to debug a hanging apt install, even though I am using -y and noninteractive mode? [12:28] unrelated to my update issue [12:28] if I run it manually it works fine, thats why I am confused [12:29] for http downloads: apt-get -o 'Debug::Acquire::http=1' update [12:30] hm but its hanging right now, guess theres no way to see why [12:30] apt log doesnt show anything either [12:31] weird because im only installing base packages: apt-get -y install apt-transport-https ca-certificates curl gnupg-agent software-properties-common [12:31] i'm seeing problems with tu dresden mirrors currently. 141.30.62.24 [12:31] if i run it manually again it works no issue [12:31] but via ansible its hanging, the apt process, and I dont know why [12:32] or maybe the mirror is super slow hm [12:32] de.archive.ubuntu.com points there [12:41] dirtwash: mirror.hetzner.de resolves to both an IPv4 and an IPv6 address. it's possible that one of them is available why the other isn't === pmacdonnell_ is now known as pmacdonnell [12:46] i need a little help. E: Failed to fetch http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libe/libepsilon/libepsilon1_0.9.2+dfsg-4_amd64.deb Connection failed [IP: 141.30.62.22 80] [12:47] trying to install blender. [12:48] though sudo apt-get update also doesn't seem to work now that i checked. 0% [Waiting for headers] [12:49] isn't a resolv.conf issue. ping works. do i have to change the mirror list. is there a mirror list? how does this work [12:49] ? [12:49] egrain: try a different apt mirror for now, this one (de.archive.ubuntu.com) is currently broken. i just reported it following the instructions on the channel /topic of #ubuntu-mirrors [12:49] !mirrors [12:49] Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Focal, and help keeping the servers' load low! [12:50] sorry, ignore this message by ubottu [12:50] nice of you guys to have a whole channel dedicated to this. [12:50] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors === skookum1 is now known as skookum [12:50] this lists mirror servers you can use. look for germany if that's topographically close to you. [12:52] the mirrors your system uses can be edited in software-properties-gtk (GUI) or using sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list (terminal) [12:52] i have that one in there: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ focal main restricted among others. lots of comments. [12:53] hm, there is no list. i guess i have to add one manually then? [12:55] Hello [12:55] I am unable to import ssh keys in Gnome Keyring [12:55] Greets everyone. I'm trying to get the right nvidia drivers loaded for my laptop running 20.04. When I run 'ubuntu-drivers list' I get a warning ' has bad syntax: version number does not start with digit' Not sure if this is related. Can anyone help? [12:55] import button is grayed out [12:56] raddy: what gives: sudo lshw -C video ? [12:56] JFalken: ^ [12:56] raddy: sorry not for you [12:57] lotuspsychje, Looking for something specific? Or should I pastebin the whole output? [12:57] JFalken: yeah pastebin please [12:58] lotuspsychje, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GnzM5JVHzb/ [12:59] anyway, worked. i used us.archive. thanks a bunch. [12:59] 2nd display is an external monitor [13:00] JFalken: these are 2 seperate graphics or a hybrid card nvidia intel? [13:00] egrain: thanks for reporting back. i've also pinged the mirror admin on irc [13:00] lotuspsychje, I believe 2 separate. New laptop I didn't buy. Not sure. [13:01] JFalken: can you try software&sources tab adittional drivers, see if your drivers show up there? [13:03] lotuspsychje, it says it's using NVIDIA driver metapackage from nvidia-driver-440. That means I should be good? [13:03] JFalken: no, cause lshw says your nvidia is unclaimed, something makes it not load driver [13:04] JFalken: can you share your dmesg in a pastebin please? [13:04] Sure, one sec [13:04] JFalken: also its just 440 showing or do you see other nvidia driver versions in additional drivers list? [13:04] looks like optimus [13:06] lotuspsychje, it lists 435 and 390 as well. Plus Nouveau [13:06] JFalken: ok tnx [13:07] lotuspsychje, https://termbin.com/3mf3 [13:08] And yes.. I upgraded the kernel to fix a network driver issue =( [13:08] does ubuntu 20 support hdmi in so i can connect a ps4 to a laptop? [13:08] JFalken: lets try to get you booted into 20.04 default kernel first [13:08] JFalken: so we can rule out its kernel related [13:08] !info linux-image-generic [13:08] linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4.0.37.40 (focal), package size 2 kB, installed size 17 kB [13:09] lotuspsychje, I finally got my network card to stop dropping off the network with the kernel I'm on. I'm a little reluctant to go back to 5.4 [13:09] JFalken: its just as a test [13:09] Ok, cool [13:09] JFalken: if it doesnt fix, id reccomend going to driver 435 [13:09] I still have it installed, I can just change it in grub? [13:10] JFalken: yeah, just one time boot into 5.4 with holding shift at boot, enter grub, pick [13:11] Ugh, I'm on the laptop now.. Let me reboot and I'll be back! [13:17] lotuspsychje, sorry took a couple tries (and used esc key) [13:17] $ uname -r [13:17] 5.4.0-37-generic [13:17] JFalken: check if driver loaded again with sudo lshw -C video [13:18] Still says UNCLAIMED [13:18] JFalken: allrighty, lets try a switch to driver version 435 then [13:19] lotuspsychje, and then another reboot? [13:19] yes [13:19] `lsmod | grep amd` - this shows some output. Does that mean I don't need to install proprietary drivers from AMD website? [13:20] BlueShark_: sudo lshw -C video [13:20] lotuspsychje, 5.4 kernel again? [13:20] lotuspsychje: https://termbin.com/shqv [13:21] BlueShark_: driver=amdgpu is loaded [13:21] JFalken: well we proved its also happening on kernel 5.4 now, so you can choose now [13:21] lotuspsychje: I didn't install it manually, so it auto-installed? [13:21] BlueShark_: ubuntu driver modules always try to auto install at booting [13:22] auto load [13:22] if possible/available [13:22] lotuspsychje, I got an error applying changes: pk-client-error-quark: Error while installing package [13:22] JFalken: you have external ppa's that could interfere with the install? [13:23] lotuspsychje, I think the only external ppa is for network card backports [13:23] JFalken: wich command did you use? [13:25] lotuspsychje, someone walked me through it.. I git it from kernel.org github [13:25] sorry? [13:26] i mean wich command did you use to switch nvidia drivers [13:26] Sorry, still on my first cup of coffee.. I did it via software & updates [13:26] ah [13:26] does it show loaded? [13:26] It says installed nvidia-dkms-435 package post-installation script returned an error [13:27] But no, it still has 440 selected [13:27] JFalken: ok lets try: sudo apt purge nvidia* [13:28] E: Unable to locate package nvidia* [13:28] JFalken: this will make you fallback to nouveau, then reboot and !nomodeset (if needed) to get in your system and try installing 435 again [13:28] yikes [13:28] That can't be right tho.. apt list shows they are installed [13:29] JFalken: is your system up to date? [13:29] Yessir [13:30] Also, fwiw.. apt list shows: nvidia-driver-435/focal,now 435.21-0ubuntu7 amd64 [installed] [13:30] JFalken: try a reboot, lets see what happens [13:30] ok, brb [13:32] lotuspsychje, when I logged in I got an error saying system program problem detected [13:33] JFalken: what does it say when you unfold details? [13:33] I only had an option to report errors or cancel [13:34] However software & updates shows 435 driver now [13:34] JFalken: sudo lshw -C video [13:34] Still unclaimed =( [13:34] not good [13:35] I'm telling you, this laptop has been a huge pain in the ass [13:35] Even with a fresh install, I had tons of network card issues as well [13:36] Any other suggestions? [13:36] JFalken: well, some brands have a major pain with intel wifi/realtek combo's [13:36] JFalken: what was the last time you recall nvidia graphics were working on this system? [13:37] I don't know if they ever have. This all started from trying to figure out why the fans are still running during suspend. That's how I noticed the issue. [13:37] wich brand of laptop is this? [13:37] MSI [13:38] right, bios version doesnt seem that old neither hmmz [13:39] Yeah, pretty new BIOS, new OS, new kernel.. I'm out of ideas =( [13:39] JFalken: could try the 390 too, but might get into same dkms issue [13:40] also your GTX card should get more pleased with higher nvidia versions [13:40] Is there something newer than 440? [13:41] I guess I can google that [13:41] JFalken: well there is the ubuntu graphics ppa, wich provides the latest driver versions [13:41] !nvidia [13:41] For nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing » For the latest Nvidia drivers see https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [13:41] JFalken: but i would not reccomend, until we find the root reason of why your nvidia modules doesnt load [13:42] Looks like 440 is the latest in that PPA anyway [13:42] ppa one is .26 [13:42] the one from ubuntu repos is .21 so it seems [13:43] Ah [13:43] Think it would make any difference? [13:44] JFalken: no, as i say, we need to find the reason why first [13:44] Got it [13:44] JFalken: what happens when you pick nouveau in additional drivers? [13:44] Hello [13:44] I wish I didnt have to log in every time I use hexchat [13:45] Jayden: use the SASL method [13:45] lotuspsychje, I can give it a try, but I think I disabled it in grub. I assume I'll have to remove that modset? [13:45] Wtf is SASL? [13:46] JFalken I try to set a grub theme but it never applies... Even a background picture doesnt work [13:46] I have been troubleshooting for days [13:47] Jayden, I used to have it on an old dual boot machine. Currently trying to figure out nvidia driver issues =( [13:47] Jayden: https://freenode.net/kb/answer/hexchat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Authentication_and_Security_Layer [13:47] But lotuspsychje has been super helpful and patient so far :) [13:47] how do I find out why a nfs server is not exporting a directory. "exportfs -a" list the directory at the correct IP range. [13:47] I dont have driver issues [13:48] I am not that advanced [13:48] I only know few terminal commands [13:48] This new laptop has driver issues =( [13:48] Took so long to find out how to run a bin file [13:48] (Among other issues) [13:48] This laptop has integrated graphics :( [13:49] and a 1 TB 5k RPM hard drive [13:49] Intel core i3 [13:49] Its always loud [13:49] JFalken: can you pastebin the whole output after: sudo apt install nvidia-driver-390 [13:49] Jayden: please only ubuntu issues here [13:49] lotuspsychje, sure. Please hold [13:50] Whats the keyboard shortcut for terminal [13:50] lotuspsychje, "nvidia-driver-390 : Depends: xserver-xorg-video-nvidia-390 (= 390.132-0ubuntu2) but it is not going to be installed" [13:50] Jayden, T [13:50] Jfalken, Let me remind you that Drivers arent REQUIRED [13:51] JFalken: pastebin your sources.list and sources.list.d [13:51] My dad told me linux didnt need drivers [13:53] Jayden: all hardware requires drivers [13:53] lotuspsychje, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HvmYctxMYK/ [13:53] I use TunnelBear VPN [13:53] Jayden: do you have a support question? [13:54] Yeah [13:54] Why is it that when I try to connect to my VPN it asks me for password a thousand times and fails to connect [13:54] Jayden: does it connect one of those thousand times? [13:54] nope [13:55] fails at the end [13:55] Jayden: did it ever work? [13:55] It used to work [13:55] how do I find out why a nfs server is not exporting a directory (permission denied). "exportfs -a" list the directory at the correct IP range. [13:55] But after shutting off and turning back on it never worked [13:55] Jayden: are you typing the password correct? Do you have if configured correctly? Did you try contacting TunnelBear support? [13:55] JFalken: please lets try disable all external ppa's and try again with nvidia drivers [13:56] I am putting that password in [13:56] lotuspsychje, how do I do that? =) [13:56] I tried connecting to other countries also that didnt work [13:56] !ppapurge | JFalken [13:56] JFalken: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:/ » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html [13:56] lotuspsychje, this won't remove my network drivers? [13:57] Also, should I remove each one by one? [13:58] I know I definitely don't need the first one. I'll remove that now [13:59] JFalken: perhaps leave your network tweak enabled [14:00] lotuspsychje, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/gMynwrDQrC/ =( [14:01] JFalken: ERROR (dkms apport): kernel package linux-headers-5.6.17-050617-generic is not s [14:01] upported [14:01] Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 5.6.17-050617-generic (x86_ [14:01] 64) [14:03] JFalken: try to ppapurge all your external ppa's and boot back into 5.4 and try there installing nvidia drivers [14:04] lotuspsychje, says it can't find the package list for the first one [14:04] I'll try to go back to the 5.4 kernel and try? [14:05] JFalken: yeah i would play on 5.4 as things conflict on your 5.6 so it seems [14:05] Can you remind me how to make 5.4 default so I don't have to keep going through grub to pick? [14:06] JFalken: well if you messing with !mainline, it will always try to pick latest kernel as default [14:06] Ah [14:07] JFalken: but in your case your wifi gets fixed in 5.6, if you purge 5.6 you dont get online anymore [14:07] so choices.. [14:07] My digital ocean box suddenly become unresponsive. The tcp connections are setup and nmap shows e.g. port 80 and 443 open, but communication on those connections times out. SSH also times out. help? [14:08] lotuspsychje, tbh.. I don't care that much about the drivers if I can just get the fans to stop while in suspend. But I'm not sure if they are related issues [14:08] Having fans off when suspended is a bad idea [14:09] Having the fans on is useful because your computer will be nice and cool next time you hop on [14:09] JFalken: my approach would be working systematicly, playing on the default kernel as base, if something doesnt work, file a bug about it [14:09] lotuspsychje, fair enough. I'll roll back to 5.4 and go from there. What's the easiest way to do that? [14:10] Just with mainline? [14:10] How do I create a Freenode channel [14:11] JFalken: you got 5.4 installed already, so if you want it default again, think purging all higher kernels will set you back [14:11] lotuspsychje, ok.. I'll boot back to 5.4, remove 5.6, see if I can remove PPAs. Anything else? [14:12] JFalken: no, we need to fix that dkms conflict first [14:12] Ok, lemme start there. Are you going to be around? [14:12] sure [14:12] Excellent. Back in a few. [14:12] I wrote this in #lubuntu but nobody is alive. Can someone explain to me why Lubuntu is not supporting firmware for older computers, when old computers are their main useage [14:12] >.< [14:13] Actual: its sunday today, things get a little bit slower in response [14:13] =Gotcha [14:13] Actual: whats not working exactly? [14:14] Worship the world or just taking a note from Judeochristians and using it as a day off? [14:14] Actual: lets not [14:14] My fucking WiFi, of all the things [14:14] No problem. Dropped. [14:17] Luckily Parrot, in its infinite wisdom is kicking lubuntu's ass. [14:18] https://pastebin.com/103f6zax [14:18] lol! [14:18] Moo. [14:18] Lol [14:24] lotuspsychje, I got rid of 5.6.. back to running on 5.4 [14:24] And I removed the PPA I know I didn't need [14:25] lshw still shows unclaimed [14:25] JFalken: ok try to switch/purge/install nvidia drivers now [14:25] From additional drivers? [14:26] (additional drivers shows it's using 435) [14:27] lotuspsychje, or should I just try to switch back to 440 now? [14:28] JFalken: lets try to 435 first [14:28] lotuspsychje, 435 is already selected. Also, fwiw, ubuntu-drivers list now shows all three [14:28] https://pastebin.com/103f6zax [14:29] Jayden: stop that [14:29] Linux in NTFS [14:30] Linux is secretly in NTFS [14:31] Jayden: dont random chitchat in here, use another channel for that [14:32] lotuspsychje, addtional drivers has 435 already selected. Should I apt purge and start from scratch? [14:35] JFalken: yeah nvidia drivers switch/install should go smoothly...if not something still blocking it [14:35] lotuspsychje, still says unable to locate package nvidia* [14:36] Maybe I can switch to 440 and try and then back to 435? [14:39] JFalken: sure [14:42] lotuspsychje, switched to 440, no errors applying changes [14:42] aha! [14:42] Although, still unclaimed in lshw [14:43] I need to reboot? [14:44] I'll reboot.. brb [14:47] lotuspsychje, still no dice =( [14:47] JFalken: lets have a look at your current dmesg plz? [14:47] sure [14:48] lotuspsychje, https://termbin.com/wc9k [14:52] JFalken: this is a weird puzzle, its like your dmesg skips nvidia output [14:52] JFalken: you are not using kvm or virtualizing things? [14:53] I do have vmware installed for other VMs, but this isn't in a VM [14:54] allright [14:56] JFalken: ok 3 other things to wonder, iwlwifi dkms git interfere? vmware dkms conflict? nouveau blacklist take off and try purge nvidia* [14:58] lotuspsychje, Not sure about the other 2, but I can try purging the nvidia drivers.. although nvidia* doesn't seem to work [14:59] JFalken: yeah, but maybe if you take off the nouveau blacklist, we could switch succesfully to nouveau [14:59] Yeah, that's what I was thinking [14:59] JFalken: and hopefully install to nvidia properly [15:00] lotuspsychje, so.. update grub, and switch to nouveau? [15:00] think ive seen dmks conflicts with vmware/virtualbox in the past aswell [15:01] yeah take the line off, sudo update-grub reboot switch to nouveau try nvidia install [15:02] lotuspsychje, roger [15:04] Seeing some sort of DKMS nvidia failures here too. Anytime a new kernel gets installed, just need to force a reinstall of the nvidia drivers to have them work. Nouveau wasn't working at the desired resolution for the old nvidia ... [15:05] can someone help me with mounting an lvm volume please [15:05] so splurged for a new GPU - 1030. [15:05] dex1983, sure [15:05] great thansk [15:06] https://pastebin.com/2NE0D6qy [15:06] I want to mount the 10T /dev/sda3 partition [15:06] How I could made it [15:06] have to step away ... baking ready [15:08] lotuspsychje, I can't seem to remove the nvidia drivers apt purge nvidia* says it can't locate them [15:09] JFalken: what happens GUI on additional drivers when picking nouveau now? [15:10] lotuspsychje, I was able to switch to nouveau. No issues [15:10] (and I've also rebooted after switching) [15:10] JFalken: sudo lshw -C video to verify [15:11] lotuspsychje, it doesn't show unclaimed now [15:11] allrighty [15:11] dex1983, how about some LVM output? sudo vgs; sudo lvs ; please [15:11] ok [15:11] lotuspsychje, progress? [15:11] JFalken: ok lets try sudo apt install your-nvidia-driver from terminal now [15:12] lotuspsychje, ubuntu-drivers still show they are all installed [15:12] nvidia-driver-435, (kernel modules provided by linux-modules-nvidia-435-generic-hwe-20.04) [15:12] https://pastebin.com/9JiBxEZC [15:13] (and also 390 and 440 [15:13] ) [15:13] JFalken: what ubuntu-driver shows, it doesnt mean its installed, but available for your card [15:13] Ah [15:14] Apt list doesn't show any installed [15:14] yeah, manual install one JFalken [15:14] lotuspsychje, which driver should I try? 435 or 440? [15:14] maybe the lvm outputs helps TheFu [15:14] 50/50 guess =) [15:15] JFalken: 435 to avoid the 440 bug on 20.04 (in case) [15:15] Don't see any LV that can be mounted w/ 10T. Have you created the LV? [15:16] lotuspsychje, nvidia-utils? [15:16] sorry? [15:17] lotuspsychje, there are quite a few nvidia packages. Trying to figure out which to install [15:17] hmm do not think so [15:17] how I could create the 10T volume? [15:17] JFalken: sudo apt install nvidia-driver-435 [15:18] lotuspsychje, thanks.. installing now [15:18] Then a reboot? [15:18] yeah [15:18] kk [15:19] The VG doesn't have quite 10T. if you need 10T, then more storage needs to be added to the system either all new or to the VG. [15:19] does nvidia still need dkms to build the driver? [15:21] lotuspsychje, installed without issue, but lshw is back to unclaimed now [15:21] hmm ok [15:21] dex1983, use lvcreate to make an LV. i wouldn't use the entire available storage because then we lose out on many of the capabilites that make LVM so great. [15:21] hmm ok [15:21] maybe I create it new [15:21] it is virtualized with proxmox :-( [15:22] and reinstall ubuntu server [15:22] should I use then lvm or is ext4 also ok? [15:22] i'd only put the storage needed for the next 4-6 months into an LV. [15:22] JFalken: going for food first bbl [15:22] lotuspsychje, ok, thanks for the help! [15:23] can I add it later a bigger storage with lvm and proxmox? [15:23] Having 10-20% unused means we can do snapshots for backups and some other nice things. [15:23] i know very little about proxmox. [15:24] There is 9.8TB in the VG [15:25] ah, I used proxmox in my last job [15:26] i use lvm to directly provide storage to VMs. each VM gets a separate LV from the host storage. [15:27] Ah ok so you are using vmware? [15:27] Needed to extend a LV last week on a running VM. Added a new vDisk to a running VM, extended the VG usng that new storage and extended the LV - all while the VM was running. [15:28] dex1983, i use KVM+libvirt on Ubuntu Server [15:29] ah ok [15:30] Been doing VMs since the 1990s on many different platforms. [15:30] wow cool [15:31] dex1983, did you create the LV yet or are you re-thinking storage for VMs? [15:32] hmm I am using proxmox ve with ZFS partitioning [15:32] if using ZFS, don't use LVM. [15:32] yep I thought so [15:32] not a good idea [15:33] But you've already got LVM. [15:33] vgs shows 10T [15:33] and in the virtual machine installation of ubuntu server which partition I should use [15:34] ? [15:34] Think we've gone OT for this channel. Best to ask "why" and "design" questions elsewhere. [15:35] OT? [15:35] off topic [15:35] ok because not so ubuntu related? [15:35] They want Q --> answers (command) here. [15:36] ok [17:07] hello. sorry to intrude your virtual homes with this question, but how can i check whether a software is in the repository when i dont have ubuntu installed yet? [17:25] check https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/ [17:28] and/or snapcraft.io [18:05] hi [18:06] did someone upgrade 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS lately? [18:06] i read in this channel that the bug should have been resolved by now, but I upgraded six 18.04 LTS machines to 20.04 and each of them encountered the same bug [18:07] libcrypt.so.1 bug that is [18:09] seven-eleven: just came here to ask how to upgrade ubuntu 18.04 LTS -> 20.04 LTS, saw your messages and now I think I'll wait a few months more [18:10] !ltsupgrade | seven-eleven FreeBDSM [18:10] seven-eleven FreeBDSM: Regular upgrades from 18.04 LTS to 20.04 LTS will be enabled once 20.04.1 is released in late July. This delay helps to ensure that any lingering issues are resolved before people upgrade production systems. If you'd prefer to upgrade now, use sudo do-release-upgrade -d [18:10] FreeBDSM, you can upgrade now but you should take note how [18:11] FreeBDSM, open two terminals, one where you do the upgrade and the second should be logged in as root [18:11] now when the first terminal where you do the upgrade fails you run following commands from the root terminal [18:12] https://dpaste.org/dZQM [18:12] then switch back to the window where the upgrade failed and run `apt install --fix-broken` [18:12] seven-eleven: no, thanks [18:12] after that continue the upgrade with `apt full-upgrade` [18:13] lotuspsychje, yeah, I guess I started a month too early, but it sounded like the issue from march was fixed for the -d switch too [18:19] last two machines are in the middle of the upgrade, then I will have 5 years no worries about any upgrades \o/ [18:19] riiight [18:39] I've been having some issues lately. After 12+ hours the whole system becomes very slow, to a point where it's visually noticable when scrolling down a webpage, or looking at other UI stuff. A ps ax shows the a few Wine apps are running that I did not start, but killing these processes doesn't speed things back up. Also some pxgsetting is running in multiple instances, but killing those doesn't speed things back up either. [18:44] Looking for a new laptop and I see on on eBay that is a fantastic deal. It's BIOS locked though. I want to know if I would be able to install Ubuntu on it. Any idea? https://www.ebay.com/itm/P-R-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T470s-BIOS-LOCK-Intel-i5-6300U-20GB-DDR4-Win-10-TL0135/333626616473?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1431.l2649 [18:45] The description says it has Windows 10 on it and boots to the OS, so I imagine that if I were to find a way to load linux onto that OS and put it back in the system it'd work even if it couldn't boot from USB [18:45] "Device is wiped to factory defaults and ready for use. Device is BIOS LOCKED and being sold as is. It can run Windows 10 and most applications." Would it be a bad idea to buy it? [18:47] Or would something like this be a better bet even though it has 12GB less RAM? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T470s-i5-6300U-8GB-ram-256GB-SSD-1080p-warranty/193524688871?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1431.l2649 [18:47] unless you can figure out how to reset the bios i would leave it alone [18:49] Yeah, I figured :( It's such a shame though as the bios locked one is considerably less expensive [19:04] There are tons of like new systems with BIOS passwords on ebay for some reason. I saw like 4 or 5 X280s [19:27] mr_lou: [19:27] !find pxgsettings [19:27] Found: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 11608 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=pxgsettings&searchon=names&suite=focal§ion=all [19:28] okay, that didnb't help. but package libproxy1-plugin-gsettings contains a file /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libproxy/0.4.14/pxgsettings on amd64 [19:28] package description: "automatic proxy configuration management library (GSettings plugin)" [19:30] it's normal to have this running on the default gnome desktop, but usually just one process tree. and it shouldn't conisume many resources. [19:36] apt autoremove wants to remove linux-generic, should I be careful here, linux-generic sounds important [19:37] look at the version .. [19:37] it shows no version, that's why im a bit worried [19:38] if you're running an LTS release and have moved to linux-generic-hwe-YY.MM then it'll be fine. [19:38] oh? share in paste.ubuntu.com please? [19:38] https://dpaste.org/jaMa [19:38] tomreyn, yep running LTS, let me check if I have that *hwe* package [19:38] add -V to apt(-get) to see the package versions [19:39] not having generic [19:39] got a linux-image-generic [19:39] linux-generic 5.4.0.37.40 [19:40] i think i should be careful now, 5.4.0 sounds like the newest version for 20.04 [19:41] uname -a gives 5.4.0-37.41 ?? [19:41] i guess you want to keep linux-image-generic if you're on focal [19:41] i run this command before which lead to the autoremove: https://dpaste.org/OuAE [19:42] yes 5.4.0-37-generic [19:42] it doesn't say 41 or 40 just 37-generic [19:42] oh sorry, i used uname -r. uname -a shows 5.4.0-37-generic #41-Ubuntu [19:42] !info linux-generic focal-updates [19:42] 'focal-updates' is not a valid distribution: bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, cosmic, cosmic-backports, cosmic-proposed, disco, disco-backports, disco-proposed, eoan, eoan-backports, eoan-proposed, focal, focal-backports, focal-proposed, groovy, groovy-backports, groovy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-propo [19:42] !info linux-generic focal [19:42] linux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4.0.37.40 (focal), package size 1 kB, installed size 17 kB [19:43] tomreyn, oh thanks, i got bit worried :-) [19:45] i meant to write: i think you want to keep linux-generic if you're on focal (there is no HWE for it, yet) [19:47] ok reinstalled it [19:48] i wonder why it appeared in autoremove, thats not a good sign [20:27] Hi all, when using LVM I am getting this error: "Unable to merge invalidated snapshot LV "ci-snap"." [20:53] has anyone seen ubuntu software app disappear and then reappear a few days later on a fresh 20.04 install? [20:53] happened to me and im not sure why? [20:57] Hello [20:57] melatonina, hi [20:58] Are there official instructions on how to fix the issues caused by upgrading to Ubuntu 20.04? [21:00] My system asks me to do a partial update and fails, regularly. Then it takes time to perform an "unattended upgrade" each time I shut down or restart, without doing anything, apparently. And the window manager often becomes irresponsive. [21:02] sudo apt install -f # sudo dpkg --configure -a # sudo apt dist-upgrade [21:11] oerheks: I'll try that. Thanks [21:18] hi [21:18] im currently on a live usb and I wonder how I can install linux kernel? i tried apt install linux-image-5.4.0-37-generic [21:19] my focal upgrade failed apparently [21:19] eh [21:21] i think i needed linux-generic, looks better now [21:22] why is grub only generating initrd.img-5.4.0-37-generic [21:22] not vmlinuz hmm [21:22] installing a kernel on liveusb session? [21:23] why? [21:24] oerheks, i rebooted after the focal upgrade but grub had only the old 4.X kernel and failed to boot therefore. now im trying to fix it here [21:26] oerheks: "dist-upgrade" is doing lots of stuff. I'll report back when it finishes [21:28] bewees, boot in recoverymode and try to fix it with sudo apt install -f [21:28] !recovery [21:28] If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode [21:33] oerheks, i will try that next boot [21:38] oerheks, how can i boot without kernel though? [21:45] "but grub had only the old 4.X kernel" .. weird claim you have no kernel [21:45] and 4.x seems from a previous release? [21:47] i tried booting from 4.x [21:47] but then i saw a black screen with one dot blinking [21:48] i dont understand why apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic is not installing vmlinuz to boot hmm [22:20] rebooting [22:46] Had a 20.04 mate upgrade make an unbootable system yesterday. Wasn't paying close attenton as 10 other systems were also beng patched. Most needed a reboot, so i did. Rescue-grub was it w/ no file systems found on any storage. Booted from Try Ubuntu flash and found /boot empty of files. [22:48] Did a chroot w/ bind mounts to install a kernel and update grub. That failed and i could just do a reinstall and backup restore in about 30min to be back. [22:51] "I: The initramfs will attempt to resume from /dev/dm-1" was the message when it stopped upgrading. [22:52] LVM install. === fo0bar_ is now known as fo0bar [23:00] W: GPG error: http://vpn.simsushare.com/apt Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: [23:01] why would i be getting this error after i manually added the key with apt-key add? [23:01] how on earth is the "public key not available" ? [23:01] i just added the damn thing [23:05] interesting, what guide do you follow? [23:06] oerheks, what do you mean? [23:06] i added the key with apt-key add which from what i understand is the way to manually add a gpg key. this seemed to have been working with ubuntu 18 but now bombs out with ubuntu 20 [23:07] how do they tell you to install? [23:07] there's no "they". i'm the one making the repo [23:07] it's my repo with my own key [23:07] Hi [23:07] How can i install vmlinuz zo boot [23:08] Im now booted in my old kernel without de just temrinal [23:09] I tried reinstalling linux-generix and linux-image-generix but thats not installing anything to /boot [23:27] ghlfrunb: Show us the state of the installed kernels ' dpkg -l | grep linux- ' in a pastebin. === HerVonW is now known as mariusvw