[00:22] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-eyes-plugin 4.5.1 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-eyes-plugin-4-5-1-released-tp59233.html (by Andre Miranda) [00:47] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::platform:: Installer guide is now published on ubuntu.com/server/docs @ http://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/platform/commit/?id=89a97b62d304772d5ee08716451183d76c8f49f1 (by Dimitri John Ledkov) === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash === TheMaster is now known as Unit193 [10:23] Unit193: thanks. Are you able to test ayatana things? Working on https://github.com/Xubuntu/lightdm-gtk-greeter/issues/74, but making either indicator backend optional at build-time. [10:23] Issue 74 in Xubuntu/lightdm-gtk-greeter "Support Ayatana Indicators" [Open] [11:28] bluesabre: I can absolutely try to build it of course, but last time I tried running with either I couldn't get a indicator to show up. [11:29] Unit193: cool, I'll ping you when I have something to test :) [11:34] Got any pointers on making indicators show up? Will we be using the Ayatana or other backend? [11:35] If it's a configure switch rather than just auto detection, we can add both and make an ifdef Ubuntu thing, thus syncing the package still. \o/ [15:00] Unit193: https://github.com/Xubuntu/lightdm-gtk-greeter/commit/9c50d93d3c52623183e3562ed3f033533a672fbc - Supports both backends, prefers ayatana, if ayatana libraries aren't present it falls back to unity, can be overridden with configure flag `--with-libindicator=ayatana|unity` [15:01] (at build time) [15:02] For making indicators show up... it's been a while :D [15:05] Looks like it's just the indicator name, without any extras, so messages is `messages`: [15:05] $ cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf [15:05] [greeter] [15:05] indicators = ~host;~spacer;~session;~language;~a11y;~clock;~power;messages [19:08] Unit193: so, I'm not able to get indicators of either type to load... and I think it might be because the greeter has a hard dependency on upstart for starting the indicators :o [19:37] bluesabre: reminder about these https://github.com/Xubuntu/xubuntu-default-settings/pulls [20:00] Unit193: seems like its been broken for a while :\ [20:08] bluesabre: if the greeter isnt used as lockscreen thats probably less of a problem though [20:27] Hey devs and devils [20:28] I've settled for a window instead of GtkPopover [20:28] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82bCIkLWsd0 [20:29] Popover needs a window to display [20:29] and menu is ussualy too small [20:29] imean panel is too small [20:35] misko_: i think i [20:35] 've never seen this plugin before [20:35] so it's supposed to be a shortcut for certain xfdesktop settings? [20:36] Yes [20:36] a-ha [20:36] https://github.com/Misko-2083/desktop-icons-applet [20:37] generally speaking this made me think that i could add an entry for desktop settings to the "show desktop" plugin [20:37] uses libxfconf-0 [20:37] that comes with the panel (depending on whether xfdesktop-settings is found in path) [20:38] but i think i don [20:38] 't personally buy into exposing those other settings [20:38] but that's just me :) [20:44] One setting to "hide desktop" in the "show desktop" plugin would be nice :) [20:45] ochosi have you seen a jgmenu xfce panel plugin? [20:49] hide desktop? [20:50] what does that mean? [20:50] no, what's jgmenu? [20:52] jgmenu is a X11 menu that uses cairo and pango written by Johan Malm [20:52] no gtk or qt whatsoever [20:53] what would i use it for? [20:54] I've written a plugin that sets some TINT2 variables that jgmenu reads and positions itself next to the panel button [20:54] or: what's the selling point over using gtkmenu? [20:54] https://youtu.be/rsK-H7seyJw?t=49 [20:54] Sorry about the video slow VM [20:55] jgmenu can also read from stdin [20:57] no worries about the slow vm [20:58] i maybe still don't get what sets this apart from other menus - is it that you have some layouting things you can trigger with the "templating"? [21:03] Well it's designed for scripting, ricing and tweaking. [21:14] ochosi https://jgmenu.github.io/jgmenututorial.7.html [21:54] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: libxfce4util 4.15.1 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-libxfce4util-4-15-1-released-tp59234.html (by Simon Steinbeiss) [23:05] bluesabre: That's how it worked for me too, glad I'm not the only one. Should I still try that? [23:08] enable_indicator_services_command="upstart --user --startup-event indicator-services-start" ah, right.