| teward | who spearheads the deb to snap stuff for chromium right now | 00:02 |
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| Laney | anyone know / has looked into what's going on with libsane1? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/485340393/buildlog_ubuntu_groovy_amd64_ubuntu_BUILDING.txt.gz | 08:17 |
| Laney | I remember something in Debian about this and a transitional package | 08:17 |
| seb128 | Laney, LocutusOfBorg was discussing that transition with RAOF the other day | 08:29 |
| seb128 | but I don't know what's missing at this point | 08:29 |
| Laney | thanks, hopefully those are enough highlights to get people who understand :> | 08:30 |
| seb128 | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=962936 | 08:30 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 962936 in src:sane-backends "sane-backends: please still keep libsane transitional package around" [Serious,Open] | 08:30 |
| Laney | I'll avoid digging into it for now :p | 08:31 |
| seb128 | right, same here | 08:31 |
| RAOF | I did the promotion of libsane1 to main, which resolved what we were talking about. | 08:31 |
| RAOF | So I think it's now all "LocutusOfBorg" (https://matrix.to/#/@freenode_LocutusOfBorg:matrix.org) 😉 | 08:32 |
| sich | Hi all ... first time joining this channel. I'm interested in helping out with ubuntu development and looking for a little direction if possible. | 08:58 |
| seb128 | sich, hey, unless you have specific things you want to contribute to you could start by reading https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers | 09:01 |
| sich | @seb128 I do have a few areas that I'd like to contribute in, but as I'm new I'll go through the steps one by one ... thank you | 09:12 |
| udevbot | Error: "seb128" is not a valid command. | 09:12 |
| LocutusOfBorg | Laney, it is installable here, not sure what are you talking about to be honest, can you please provide some more context? | 09:59 |
| Laney | LocutusOfBorg: see the build log I gave | 09:59 |
| LocutusOfBorg | Get:5 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu groovy/universe amd64 libsane1 amd64 1.0.30-1~experimental2ubuntu1 [2387 kB] | 10:00 |
| LocutusOfBorg | Get:6 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu groovy/main amd64 sane-utils amd64 1.0.30-1~experimental2ubuntu1 [202 kB] | 10:00 |
| LocutusOfBorg | Get:7 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu groovy/main amd64 libsane amd64 1.0.30-1~experimental2ubuntu1 [14.8 kB] | 10:00 |
| LocutusOfBorg | as said, it is installable here, not sure what is doing your build log | 10:00 |
| Laney | that's of an ubuntu desktop image | 10:01 |
| LocutusOfBorg | ah ok | 10:01 |
| LocutusOfBorg | so now I got it | 10:01 |
| LocutusOfBorg | will rebuild everything to pick up the new old libsane1 | 10:01 |
| Laney | ok cool, I didn't follow what's going on there - and I'm happy not to learn if you want to handle it | 10:01 |
| Laney | thanks :> | 10:01 |
| LocutusOfBorg | Laney, to be honest, instead of having an useless transition, you might want to add the transitional package libsane1 to main | 10:02 |
| LocutusOfBorg | it is just a transitional package I added to ensure smooth upgrades | 10:02 |
| seb128 | LocutusOfBorg, R_AOF said earlier that he did promote it? | 10:02 |
| LocutusOfBorg | it will save a ton of rebuilds, but I can do them anyway, as you wish (I know rebuilding helps to make transitional foo disappear) | 10:02 |
| Laney | it's not in main no | 10:03 |
| LocutusOfBorg | seb128, debian switched again from libsane1 to libsane, so I asked to promote the libsane again, and demote libsane1 that is now a transitional package | 10:03 |
| Laney | ah | 10:03 |
| LocutusOfBorg | but of course if you runtime-depend on transitional package but it is universe, nobody will teach you to move to the new one | 10:03 |
| Laney | yes component-mismatches asks for it to be promoted | 10:03 |
| Laney | maybe do both? promote and fix the archive too? | 10:04 |
| LocutusOfBorg | it won't ask again to be promoted when the reverse-deps are rebuilt ;) | 10:04 |
| LocutusOfBorg | I can do the rebuilds anyway, maybe just of main packages | 10:05 |
| seb128 | rebuild of main sounds like the best solution | 10:06 |
| Laney | as you wish | 10:06 |
| Laney | I assume it's not so many | 10:06 |
| LocutusOfBorg | the only problem is that since this morning reverse-depends is not working :) | 10:06 |
| LocutusOfBorg | but I can steal from there https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/auto-sane-backends.html | 10:07 |
| * LocutusOfBorg does them | 10:07 | |
| Laney | cheers | 10:08 |
| LocutusOfBorg | thanks fro the prod | 10:09 |
| soren | What's the preferred way to get a package upload (to main) sponsored these days? | 10:25 |
| juliank | soren: same as always https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess | 10:26 |
| seb128 | soren, easiest is probably debdiff to a launchpad but with ubuntu-sponsors subscribed | 10:29 |
| soren | juliank: So debdiff on Launchpad, not .changes (etc). on a web server somewhere? | 10:29 |
| soren | seb128: Right. Got it. Thanks :) | 10:29 |
| seb128 | np | 10:29 |
| seb128 | LocutusOfBorg, the rebuilds you did depends on the versioned lib, which isn't what is expected from what you said this morning? | 13:07 |
| ahasenack | LocutusOfBorg: hi, you uploaded https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libguestfs/1:1.42.0-5ubuntu2, did debian drop the erlang package from it? | 13:15 |
| LocutusOfBorg | seb128, libsane-dev depends on libsane1 and both should be in main | 14:01 |
| LocutusOfBorg | libsane is transitional and should be moved to universe and possibly die in a fire or be "Provided:" by libsane1 | 14:02 |
| LocutusOfBorg | can you please do the magic promote again? | 14:02 |
| seb128 | LocutusOfBorg, that's the opposite of what you wrote this morning? | 14:02 |
| seb128 | <LocutusOfBorg> seb128, debian switched again from libsane1 to libsane, so I asked to promote the libsane again, and demote libsane1 that is now a transitional package | 14:02 |
| LocutusOfBorg | yes sorry, I had no coffee at that time, and everything that has "sane" in the sentence gives me headaches | 14:03 |
| LocutusOfBorg | the bug report I filed in Debian is good | 14:03 |
| seb128 | k | 14:04 |
| LocutusOfBorg | do you have power to fix them up? they should migrate in a run or two, they all looks ok | 14:04 |
| seb128 | LocutusOfBorg, yes | 14:06 |
| LocutusOfBorg | seb128, also, somebody should MIR src:libnma? | 14:33 |
| seb128 | LocutusOfBorg, I guess? | 14:40 |
| rafaeldtinoco | there was an old bug from cyphermox related to adding support for netplan into netcf: | 14:41 |
| rafaeldtinoco | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netcf/+bug/1688345 | 14:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1688345 in netcf (Ubuntu) "add netplan support or RM package from archive" [Undecided,New] | 14:41 |
| rafaeldtinoco | I was wondering, should we keep it opened or just request netcf removal from the archive ? | 14:42 |
| rafaeldtinoco | (it seems that netcf isn't much "maintained" lately, and our strategy is to support netplan with backends only, no ?) | 14:42 |
| * rafaeldtinoco waits feedback to continue or not with [RM] bug to AA | 14:42 | |
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| ahasenack | question, how are translations updated if an SRU changes the text of some package? Or are they not? | 20:49 |
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| sarnold | I've seen sru uploader making changes where that's possible | 20:58 |
| ahasenack | you mean also uploading an updated locales package? | 20:59 |
| ahasenack | language-pack-$lanf | 21:00 |
| sarnold | ahasenack: no, just the .po files in the package; a recent example I noticed https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/2.0.2ubuntu0.1 | 21:03 |
| ahasenack | sarnold: oh, I guess I'm not sure how lp translations work then | 21:38 |
| ahasenack | I thought translations were separate from the package and that that was one of the big ubuntu differences | 21:38 |
| seb128 | ahasenack, sarnold, the normal 'cycle' is that the source package generates a template during the build, which is imported by launchpad | 21:44 |
| seb128 | then translators do their work | 21:44 |
| ahasenack | when does it get back into the package? | 21:44 |
| seb128 | and translations are exported to build langpacks on a regular cadence | 21:44 |
| seb128 | we do langpack refreshes, at least in the LTS cycles | 21:44 |
| seb128 | we will have one for .1 for sure | 21:44 |
| ahasenack | seb128: but the package also installs its own .mo file | 21:45 |
| ahasenack | apt installs 43 of those | 21:46 |
| seb128 | ahasenack, if you have a package shipping its own translations then it's a special case | 21:46 |
| seb128 | ahasenack, pkgbinarymangler/striptranslations.blacklist | 21:49 |
| seb128 | ahasenack, basically things that impact the installer don't use langpacks | 21:50 |
| ahasenack | I see | 21:50 |
| seb128 | so we cover all languages for the installer | 21:50 |
| seb128 | for those to update translations you need a source upload | 21:50 |
| ahasenack | seb128: does lp "ingest" changed translation templates when an SRU is done? | 21:51 |
| seb128 | ahasenack, yes | 21:51 |
| ahasenack | seb128: also for esm releases? like trusty? | 21:51 |
| seb128 | I guess, I don't see a reason why they would be special | 21:51 |
| ahasenack | I assume we just don't update langpacks for those | 21:51 |
| seb128 | afaik we don't no | 21:52 |
| ahasenack | ok, thanks | 21:52 |
| seb128 | np | 21:52 |
| seb128 | you can see if there a new template in the launchpad queue | 21:52 |
| ahasenack | I checked https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/update-notifier/+pots/update-notifier/pt_BR and it doesn't have new strings already updated in update-notifier in trusty | 21:53 |
| seb128 | https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/<serie>/+source/<source>/+imports | 21:53 |
| ahasenack | https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/update-notifier/+imports is empty | 21:53 |
| seb128 | I think the records don't stay long there so you would need to look soon after an upload | 21:54 |
| seb128 | ahasenack, for launchpad to have a template to import the package build must generate one | 21:56 |
| seb128 | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/444456802/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-amd64.update-notifier_0.154.1ubuntu8_BUILDING.txt.gz | 21:56 |
| seb128 | which is the most recent trusty upload doesn't have one | 21:56 |
| seb128 | compared to e.g focal | 21:57 |
| seb128 | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/472635894/buildlog_ubuntu-focal-amd64.update-notifier_3.192.30_BUILDING.txt.gz | 21:57 |
| seb128 | Building update-notifier.pot... | 21:57 |
| seb128 | Removing generated header (.h) files...done. | 21:57 |
| seb128 | Wrote update-notifier.pot | 21:57 |
| seb128 | 21:57 | |
| ahasenack | interesting, why would it have been removed, if the release package has one (as it has translations in lp) | 21:57 |
| seb128 | ahasenack, the package has one but did you check that it has been updated to include the new strings you are after? | 21:58 |
| ahasenack | all the ESM stuff, as far as I can tell, is not available for translation in lp | 21:58 |
| ahasenack | I need to inspect this further, at least the LP side seems ok and will do its job once the pot file is generated | 21:59 |
| seb128 | ahasenack, right, looking at e.g http://launchpadlibrarian.net/440218814/update-notifier_0.154.1ubuntu6_0.154.1ubuntu7.diff.gz the .pot isn't updated/part of the diff | 22:00 |
| seb128 | and since the build doesn't do an update/use dh_translations or such, launchpad probably just has an outdated template | 22:00 |
| ahasenack | yeah | 22:01 |
| seb128 | ahasenack, it's late here and I need to call it a day but feel free to Cc me on an email/bug/whatever or just ping me tomorrow, I'm having to look at resolving that with you | 22:01 |
| ahasenack | seb128: thank you, good night | 22:01 |
| seb128 | I'm happy* | 22:01 |
| ahasenack | I'm also dropping off | 22:01 |
| seb128 | np! | 22:01 |
| seb128 | night | 22:01 |
| kanashiro | mwhudson: when you have some time could you please check this bug and provide some feedback? LP #1884663 | 22:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1884663 in containerd (Ubuntu) "cadvisor/0.35.0+ds1-4 FTBFS in Groovy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1884663 | 22:02 |
| kanashiro | it is containerd related | 22:02 |
| mwhudson | kanashiro: can we just make everything a snap? :) | 22:03 |
| kanashiro | :) | 22:03 |
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