=== JanC_ is now known as JanC === mIk3_09 is now known as mIk3_08 [14:30] hiho [14:31] #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status [14:31] Meeting started Tue Jun 23 14:31:12 2020 UTC. The chair is cpaelzer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [14:31] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status Meeting | Current topic: [14:31] ddstreet: jamespage: doko: didrocks: sarnold: joeubuntu: - hi [14:31] o/ [14:31] hi [14:31] o/ [14:31] did I miss anybody, I feel like I count one too few [14:31] anyway lets get started, you poitn out in case I missed someone [14:31] #topic Review of previous action items === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status Meeting | Current topic: Review of previous action items [14:32] o/ [14:32] no actions of last week, so - done [14:32] #topic current component mismatches === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status Meeting | Current topic: current component mismatches [14:32] #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg [14:32] #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg [14:32] Mostly usual suspects we know from last time - we still have: [14:32] - jeepney for jamespage [14:32] - uboot for waveform [14:32] One actual new entry rsync -> xxhash [14:32] Does anyone have context on this one? [14:32] It was in main in D&E, so it mist have been pre-MIRed right? [14:33] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/teckit/+bug/1803230 [14:33] Launchpad bug 1803230 in xxhash (Ubuntu) "[MIR] teckit & xxhash, new rdeps of texlive-bin" [High,Incomplete] [14:33] that included xxhash [14:34] (hey) [14:34] didrocks: is desktop still subscribed and if so are you ok re-promoting it under the old bug? [14:34] cpaelzer: I can pass the message on, but being on holidays in a couple of hours, I can’t sign up for tracking [14:35] but apparently would need a new subscriber [14:35] or another [14:35] IIRC there has been some discussions about the whole tex stack [14:35] like, not being very desktopish [14:35] or the newly added dependency in rsync has to be dropped [14:36] yeah [14:36] didrocks: as a suggestion, would you mind passing this on to the desktop team so that next week someone else is here to answer if you would take it (again) or not? [14:36] cpaelzer: sure, doing it [14:36] ok - from there we can go on then [14:36] thanks [14:36] cpaelzer: the better solution is to subscribe server or foundations to it [14:37] good morning [14:37] doko: if we want to keep it in I agree, but more often than not in such cases it end up no team wanting to own it [14:37] doko: but if you ask around and next week know if "you'd take it if desktop passes" then that would be ok as well [14:39] doko: we can sort out next week who of us will take a look after the desktop team is back with a clear answer on their state of it [14:39] #topic New MIRs === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status Meeting | Current topic: New MIRs [14:39] this week we have a few [14:39] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir [14:39] jeepney is known and in process by security [14:40] totally new we seem to have [14:40] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libinih/+bug/1883890 [14:40] Launchpad bug 1883890 in libinih (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libinih" [Undecided,New] [14:40] a lib for "not invented here" nice [14:41] :) [14:41] further we have https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libjcat/+bug/1884003 [14:41] Launchpad bug 1884003 in libjcat (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libjcat" [Undecided,New] [14:41] a security lib for fwupd [14:41] and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fonts-teluguvijayam/+bug/1877134 [14:41] Launchpad bug 1877134 in fonts-teluguvijayam (Ubuntu) "[MIR] fonts-teluguvijayam" [Undecided,New] [14:41] those three need to be assigned [14:41] I at least have a friedn speaking telugu in case we need to check the real font [14:41] so I'd volunteer for the last one [14:42] others for nig and jcat ? [14:42] nih and jcat [14:42] 3/3 fonts packages I looked at in the past where very awkward - I hop ethis one is better [14:43] i can volunteer for one of them [14:43] cpaelzer, note that the font got promoted already so I was unsure if the MIR was needed but I still filed it [14:44] oh really, maybe it was MIRed in the past already then [14:44] fonts-teluguvijayam | 1.0-3 | groovy | source, all [14:44] indeed seb128 [14:44] thanks [14:44] the 'libinih' name will probably confuse people, since upstart used 'libnih' which i believe is a totally different lib [14:44] I haven't done a mir from the side of the mir team yet; libjcat feels likely to be a good, small, starting point [14:44] it is INI parsing [14:45] sarnold: if you want that would be great, otherwise I'll do it as my fonts package just got cancelled [14:45] ddstreet: jcat for you then [14:45] sarnold: and you let me know if you run into any trouble [14:45] sounds good :) [14:46] assigned [14:46] #topic Incomplete bugs / questions === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status Meeting | Current topic: Incomplete bugs / questions [14:46] cpaelzer, no, it was not MIRed in the past [14:46] Last update on incomplete bugs was on 2020-05-12, no need to bring this subtopic up in more detail [14:46] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir [14:46] oh - interesting seb128 [14:46] lets continue that in the next topic then [14:46] which is ... [14:46] #topic Any other business? === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice | Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status Meeting | Current topic: Any other business? [14:46] doko: do we have any tracking who promoted something and why? [14:47] from the archive admin POV I mean? [14:47] seb128: ^^ ? [14:47] I think everyone can see this, no? [14:47] cpaelzer, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fonts-teluguvijayam/+publishinghistory [14:47] in the publishing hist [14:47] cpaelzer: see the publishing history [14:47] vorlon did it [14:47] but no reason recorded there though [14:47] so best to check with Steve [14:48] well let me do the review then and either retrofit the Ack - or mention in case I don't agree [14:48] right [14:48] it made me wodner if there was an unstated policy that fonts don't need a MIR anymore [14:48] would be nice :) [14:48] ok, this is on my plate to sort out then [14:49] vorlon: ^^ in case you see this feel free to contact me as well if you have bonus info :-) [14:49] we done with the meeting then, unless there is "other other business" [14:49] is there ? [14:49] ok we count out to 42 todady with Catalan numbers [14:50] 1 [14:50] 1 [14:50] 2 [14:50] 5 [14:50] 14 [14:50] 42 [14:50] ok thanks everyone [14:50] nice, thanks cpaelzer, all :) [14:50] #endmeeting === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | be nice [14:50] Meeting ended Tue Jun 23 14:50:22 2020 UTC. [14:50] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2020/ubuntu-meeting.2020-06-23-14.31.moin.txt [14:50] o/ [14:50] bye all [14:51] thanks cpaelzer :) [14:52] cpaelzer, I'm unsure to understand why https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.html lists xxhash in the desktop section? [14:52] if rsync is what pulls it in [14:53] according to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsync the subscribed teams are foundations and server [14:57] seb128: xxhash was subscribed by desktop before [14:57] and actually still has to be for it being in eoan main [14:57] seb128: because it's still desktop responsibilty for the release version [14:57] I ahve linked the old MIR above [14:57] released [14:59] cpaelzer, doko, desktop-packages are still subscribed but I don't think it's fair for that package to fall of us only going forward, we do work to reduce our maintainance load and got dropped things back because they used to be on our set [15:00] which is exactly what was mentioned above [15:00] also 19.10 is out of support [15:00] I don't understand seb128: because it's still desktop responsibilty for the release version [15:00] see "[16:36] cpaelzer: the better solution is to subscribe server or foundations to it" [15:00] it's not in main for any supported serie [15:00] there is no automatic unsubscribtion seb128 [15:00] right [15:01] cpaelzer, sorry I joined mid meeting and saw your [15:01] doko: we can sort out next week who of us will take a look after the desktop team is back with a clear answer on their state of it [15:01] I was just stating that we are not interested to be listed for it [15:01] seb128: at the end there is the link to the log [15:01] so you can recover the rest [15:01] :-) [15:02] right, I did now, it takes some time for the logs to update [15:02] seb128: if no release is left you might unsubscribe and if you want to be kind state so on the MIR bug why [15:02] cpaelzer, ack, I will do that [15:04] cpaelzer, commented [17:34] cpaelzer, seb128: was that a case of a font being promoted because it had been split out into a separate source package? Those wouldn't normally need to go through MIR. Or, yes, I could've assumed it didn't need an MIR because it was a font