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| provolik | Hello, I have Xubutnu 18.04.4 on a laptop and since yesterday the keycap double-u is not vvorking. I vvas vvondering if there is a vvay to associate the double-u to a keystroke. Is it possible? | 06:51 |
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| xubuntu_liveuser | Good day everyone, best wishes from sunny germany | 08:42 |
| xubuntu_liveuser | i recently had an hardware breakdown, so i am right now using a replacement PC with an Xubuntu 14 Live DVD | 08:52 |
| xubuntu_liveuser | i would like to get your suggestions for an good way to a current system while keeping the classic look and old programs that seem to be no more in favour | 08:55 |
| pmjdebruijn | "old programs" | 08:55 |
| pmjdebruijn | "classic look" | 08:55 |
| pmjdebruijn | please be a little more specific | 08:55 |
| xubuntu_liveuser | is there a simple and clean way to first install Xubuntu 14 from the DVD plus the old programs, followed a kind of update to Xubuntu 18 or 20 (64 Bit) ? | 08:56 |
| xubuntu_liveuser | yes, still typing | 08:56 |
| xubuntu_liveuser | i meant, the PC that i previously used began with 14 and was over the years upgraded to 18 | 08:57 |
| xubuntu_liveuser | i would like to restart with somethign that looks and feels like 14 (or like Windows NT), an user interface that looks not too "Fancy" with simple elements and decorations everywhere | 08:58 |
| xubuntu_liveuser | and i would like to reinstall several amateur radio programs, like NEC, also QUCS, X-Chat, Geany, Freebasic, SoX and some other stuff that i did not obviously see on todays distributions | 09:01 |
| xubuntu_liveuser | should i describe something morei n detail? | 09:02 |
| pmjdebruijn | no clue | 09:02 |
| pmjdebruijn | sox is still in 20.04 | 09:02 |
| pmjdebruijn | x-chat in the form of hexchat | 09:02 |
| pmjdebruijn | geany is still there | 09:02 |
| xubuntu_liveuser | ok, core question, if i install Xubuntu14 that i have on DVD running right now, can i then cross in some way to 64bit ? | 09:03 |
| pmjdebruijn | probably not in a way that won't be painful | 09:03 |
| pmjdebruijn | why would you want to do that | 09:03 |
| pmjdebruijn | just dl the 64bit version in the first place and install that | 09:03 |
| pmjdebruijn | afaik, xubuntu 20.04 isn't much more fancy than 14.04 | 09:04 |
| xubuntu_liveuser | well, because i have only this DVD right now running here | 09:04 |
| pmjdebruijn | but that's been a long whiel ago | 09:04 |
| xubuntu_liveuser | ok | 09:04 |
| pmjdebruijn | xubuntu_liveuser: and you don't have a usb drive to download to or something? | 09:04 |
| pmjdebruijn | wrt the old software, no clue, if it's no longer maintained it's probably time to say goodbye | 09:05 |
| pmjdebruijn | trying to find well maintained alternatives is probably a better use of your time | 09:05 |
| xubuntu_liveuser | most stuff is currently in a doubtful state and needs to be checked and backed up, got a kind of waterdamage to the previous pc | 09:05 |
| pmjdebruijn | but, i'm not familiar with the radio amateur scene so... | 09:05 |
| xubuntu_liveuser | or i need to drive out to the next town to buy more stuff | 09:05 |
| pmjdebruijn | you'd save yourself a lot of grief probably | 09:06 |
| pmjdebruijn | but stick around, maybe someone else has a better idea | 09:06 |
| xubuntu_liveuser | yes, i am already doing other house work in paralell, just wanted to get right here into the chat and hear some opnions | 09:07 |
| xubuntu_liveuser | no hectic | 09:07 |
| xubuntu_liveuser | hmm, looks like i could make a spare CF card in my camera bootable | 09:16 |
| xubuntu_liveuser | ok, 30 minutes to download the Xubuntu20 image | 09:17 |
| xubuntu_liveuser | soo, seems to be finished in 10 minutes, then i wil ldisappear again | 09:48 |
| xubuntu_liveuser | thank you for your conversation | 09:48 |
| azagaya | Hi! is there anyway to achieve fractional hidpi scaling on xubuntu? | 14:39 |
| pmjdebruijn | azagaya: isn't that default? | 14:56 |
| pmjdebruijn | ah it's not | 14:57 |
| azagaya | pmjdebruijn: not apparently. I have a 1920x1080 screen.. everything obviosuly is too small, but the hidpi options only lets me scale it 2x and everithing is just to big. Nos i just increased font dpi size, but its not ideal as some things still are too small | 14:58 |
| azagaya | * pmjdebruijn: not apparently. I have a 1920x1080 screen.. everything obviosuly is too small, but the hidpi options only lets me scale it 2x and everithing is just to big. Now i just increased font dpi size, but its not ideal as some things still are too small | 14:58 |
| pmjdebruijn | you can still hcange the DPI settings to any random value though | 14:59 |
| pmjdebruijn | but that mostly affects font rendering | 14:59 |
| pmjdebruijn | IIRC | 14:59 |
| azagaya | only for fonts i can use any value | 14:59 |
| pmjdebruijn | you have 1920x1080 on how many inches? | 15:00 |
| azagaya | 15, is a laptop | 15:00 |
| azagaya | and im a bit blind i think hehe | 15:01 |
| pmjdebruijn | ok | 15:01 |
| pmjdebruijn | presumably only changing font dpi, is probably the least worst solution in the meanwhile, but stick around, someone else might have a better suggestion | 15:02 |
| pmjdebruijn | I've specifically avoided hidpi screens because of this up until now | 15:02 |
| pmjdebruijn | so I haven't had to deal with this | 15:02 |
| azagaya | pmjdebruijn: ok thanks! | 15:25 |
| brainwash | azagaya: it's a feature which is being added in Xfce 4.16 | 17:02 |
| azagaya | oh great! | 17:03 |
| azagaya | brainwash: thanks! | 17:03 |
| coconut | Is there any work being done on HiDPI support for new xubuntu release ? | 17:04 |
| pmjdebruijn | presumably that will trickle down into whatever is the next xubuntu release when xfce 4.16 has been released | 17:05 |
| pmjdebruijn | it's shame it missed 20.04 | 17:05 |
| coconut | i see (i now have to use ubuntu mate, which does scale my laptop well) | 17:06 |
| pmjdebruijn | what I just said there is basically true for any random software release relating to any random linux distro release | 17:07 |
| pmjdebruijn | few exception are browsers like firefox which are actually backported onto old releases | 17:07 |
| pmjdebruijn | given their significance in modern use | 17:07 |
| brainwash | coconut: you can set scaling to 2x via the settings GUI | 17:07 |
| coconut | brainwash, yeah i think i tried that.... it resulted into bad graphics and a window border WAY too small for resizing windows by mouse. | 17:10 |
| pmjdebruijn | coconut: brainwash doesn't mean doubling your dpi value | 17:10 |
| brainwash | you'll have to select the hidpi window borders too | 17:10 |
| pmjdebruijn | ooooh | 17:11 |
| pmjdebruijn | that's seperate? | 17:11 |
| brainwash | window borders were always separate | 17:11 |
| brainwash | in the Xfce universe | 17:11 |
| pmjdebruijn | would be rather nice if xfwm could pick that up magically though | 17:12 |
| pmjdebruijn | but oh well :) | 17:12 |
| brainwash | it does to some degree | 17:12 |
| brainwash | at least I saw a commit addressing this | 17:13 |
| Celso | Good afternoon everyone! | 17:21 |
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