[06:51] <provolik> Hello, I have Xubutnu 18.04.4 on a laptop and since yesterday the keycap double-u is not vvorking. I vvas vvondering if there is a vvay to associate the double-u to a keystroke. Is it possible?
[08:42] <xubuntu_liveuser> Good day everyone, best wishes from sunny germany
[08:52] <xubuntu_liveuser> i recently had an hardware breakdown, so i am right now using a replacement PC with an Xubuntu 14 Live DVD
[08:55] <xubuntu_liveuser> i would like to get your suggestions for an good way to a current system while keeping the classic look and old programs that seem to be no more in favour
[08:55] <pmjdebruijn> "old programs"
[08:55] <pmjdebruijn> "classic look"
[08:55] <pmjdebruijn> please be a little more specific
[08:56] <xubuntu_liveuser> is there a simple and clean way to first install Xubuntu 14 from the DVD plus the old programs, followed a kind of update to Xubuntu 18 or 20 (64 Bit) ?
[08:56] <xubuntu_liveuser> yes, still typing
[08:57] <xubuntu_liveuser> i meant, the PC that i previously used began with 14 and was over the years upgraded to 18
[08:58] <xubuntu_liveuser> i would like to restart with somethign that looks and feels like 14 (or like Windows NT), an user interface that looks not too "Fancy" with simple elements and decorations everywhere
[09:01] <xubuntu_liveuser> and i would like to reinstall several amateur radio programs, like NEC, also  QUCS, X-Chat, Geany, Freebasic, SoX and some other stuff that i did not obviously see on todays distributions
[09:02] <xubuntu_liveuser> should i describe something morei n detail?
[09:02] <pmjdebruijn> no clue
[09:02] <pmjdebruijn> sox is still in 20.04
[09:02] <pmjdebruijn> x-chat in the form of hexchat
[09:02] <pmjdebruijn> geany is still there
[09:03] <xubuntu_liveuser> ok, core question, if i install Xubuntu14 that i have on DVD running right now, can i then cross in some way to 64bit ?
[09:03] <pmjdebruijn> probably not in a way that won't  be painful
[09:03] <pmjdebruijn> why would you want to do that
[09:03] <pmjdebruijn> just dl the 64bit version in the first place and install that
[09:04] <pmjdebruijn> afaik, xubuntu 20.04 isn't much more fancy than 14.04
[09:04] <xubuntu_liveuser> well, because i have only this DVD right now running here
[09:04] <pmjdebruijn> but that's been a long whiel ago
[09:04] <xubuntu_liveuser> ok
[09:04] <pmjdebruijn> xubuntu_liveuser: and you don't have a usb drive to download to or something?
[09:05] <pmjdebruijn> wrt the old software, no clue, if it's no longer maintained it's probably time to say goodbye
[09:05] <pmjdebruijn> trying to find well maintained alternatives is probably a better use of your time
[09:05] <xubuntu_liveuser> most stuff is currently in a doubtful state and needs to be checked and backed up, got a kind of waterdamage to the previous pc
[09:05] <pmjdebruijn> but, i'm not familiar with the radio amateur scene so...
[09:05] <xubuntu_liveuser> or i need to drive out to the next town to buy more stuff
[09:06] <pmjdebruijn> you'd save yourself a lot of grief probably
[09:06] <pmjdebruijn> but stick around, maybe someone else has a better idea
[09:07] <xubuntu_liveuser> yes, i am already doing other house work in paralell, just wanted to get right here into the chat and hear some opnions
[09:07] <xubuntu_liveuser> no hectic
[09:16] <xubuntu_liveuser> hmm, looks like i could make a spare CF card in my camera bootable
[09:17] <xubuntu_liveuser> ok, 30 minutes to download the Xubuntu20 image
[09:48] <xubuntu_liveuser> soo, seems to be finished in 10 minutes, then i wil ldisappear again
[09:48] <xubuntu_liveuser> thank you for your conversation
[14:39] <azagaya> Hi! is there anyway to achieve fractional hidpi scaling on xubuntu?
[14:56] <pmjdebruijn> azagaya: isn't that default?
[14:57] <pmjdebruijn> ah it's not
[14:58] <azagaya> pmjdebruijn: not apparently. I have a 1920x1080 screen.. everything obviosuly is too small, but the hidpi options only lets me scale it 2x and everithing is just to big. Nos i just increased font dpi size, but its not ideal as some things still are too small
[14:58] <azagaya>  * pmjdebruijn: not apparently. I have a 1920x1080 screen.. everything obviosuly is too small, but the hidpi options only lets me scale it 2x and everithing is just to big. Now i just increased font dpi size, but its not ideal as some things still are too small
[14:59] <pmjdebruijn> you can still hcange the DPI settings to any random value though
[14:59] <pmjdebruijn> but that mostly affects font rendering
[14:59] <pmjdebruijn> IIRC
[14:59] <azagaya> only for fonts i can use any value
[15:00] <pmjdebruijn> you have 1920x1080 on how many inches?
[15:00] <azagaya> 15, is a laptop
[15:01] <azagaya> and im a bit blind i think hehe
[15:01] <pmjdebruijn> ok
[15:02] <pmjdebruijn> presumably only changing font dpi, is probably the least worst solution in the meanwhile, but stick around, someone else might have a better suggestion
[15:02] <pmjdebruijn> I've specifically avoided hidpi screens because of this up until now
[15:02] <pmjdebruijn> so I haven't had to deal with this
[15:25] <azagaya> pmjdebruijn: ok thanks!
[17:02] <brainwash> azagaya: it's a feature which is being added in Xfce 4.16
[17:03] <azagaya> oh great!
[17:03] <azagaya> brainwash: thanks!
[17:04] <coconut> Is there any work being done on HiDPI support for new xubuntu release ?
[17:05] <pmjdebruijn> presumably that will trickle down into whatever is the next xubuntu release when xfce 4.16 has been released
[17:05] <pmjdebruijn> it's shame it missed 20.04
[17:06] <coconut> i see (i now have to use ubuntu mate, which does scale my laptop well)
[17:07] <pmjdebruijn> what I just said there is basically true for any random software release relating to any random linux distro release
[17:07] <pmjdebruijn> few exception are browsers like firefox which are actually backported onto old releases
[17:07] <pmjdebruijn> given their significance in modern use
[17:07] <brainwash> coconut: you can set scaling to 2x via the settings GUI
[17:10] <coconut> brainwash, yeah i think i tried that.... it resulted into bad graphics and a window border WAY too small for resizing windows by mouse.
[17:10] <pmjdebruijn> coconut: brainwash doesn't mean doubling your dpi value
[17:10] <brainwash> you'll have to select the hidpi window borders too
[17:11] <pmjdebruijn> ooooh
[17:11] <pmjdebruijn> that's seperate?
[17:11] <brainwash> window borders were always separate
[17:11] <brainwash> in the Xfce universe
[17:12] <pmjdebruijn> would be rather nice if xfwm could pick that up magically though
[17:12] <pmjdebruijn> but oh well :)
[17:12] <brainwash> it does to some degree
[17:13] <brainwash> at least I saw a commit addressing this
[17:21] <Celso> Good afternoon everyone!