| jam | morning all | 05:24 |
|---|---|---|
| Chipaca | morning all! | 09:02 |
| facubatista | Muy buenos días a todos! | 10:56 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: heyy | 10:57 |
| facubatista | Chipaca, meeting? | 11:01 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: omw | 11:03 |
| facubatista | Chipaca, so, there's no "easy" or "integrated" way to make argparse to support a longer help for the command alone | 12:29 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: i'm listening | 12:29 |
| facubatista | I mean, if I do `charmcraft version -h`, the machinery of argparse triggers in, not allowing us to have contron on the output (unless we keep digging with hacking its internals), and it doesn't have a field to show a "long description" | 12:31 |
| facubatista | Chipaca, so, we could keep digging, but maybe is to first understand which are all the changes we'll need to do regarding help messages... we may totally craft a HelpFormatter if it's very different than the default | 12:32 |
| facubatista | Chipaca, IOW, what I propose is to forget about charmcraft#3 until we have news and directions from UX | 12:32 |
| mup | Issue charmcraft#3: Support for long help texts from each command <Created by facundobatista> <https://github.com/canonical/charmcraft/issues/3> | 12:32 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: we already have that direction | 12:33 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: but i'm ok with slipping charmcraft#3 due to it turning out to be more work | 12:33 |
| mup | Issue charmcraft#3: Support for long help texts from each command <Created by facundobatista> <https://github.com/canonical/charmcraft/issues/3> | 12:33 |
| facubatista | Chipaca, ok | 12:36 |
| Chipaca | i'm going to go figure out lunch before it's tea time | 12:46 |
| facubatista | Chipaca, please remember this: https://github.com/canonical/charmcraft/pull/57 | 13:11 |
| mup | PR charmcraft#57: Make pip list current packages before proceeding with the install <Created by facundobatista> <https://github.com/canonical/charmcraft/pull/57> | 13:11 |
| facubatista | (note I re-did the PR, now from the forked project) | 13:11 |
| mup | PR operator#338 opened: ops/storage.py: Move SQLiteBackend <Created by jameinel> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/338> | 13:11 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: how could i forget | 13:19 |
| Chipaca | (answer: easily) | 13:19 |
| facubatista | dramatically | 13:19 |
| Chipaca | libnghttp2.so.14 | 13:19 |
| Chipaca | sounds a bit rude | 13:19 |
| Chipaca | poor http2 | 13:20 |
| * Chipaca close to having a working snap | 13:21 | |
| Chipaca | woooo | 13:29 |
| Chipaca | 9.1MB for a working snap including git and enough helpers to pull https | 13:30 |
| Chipaca | facubatista, jam, standup? | 13:34 |
| facubatista | oops | 13:35 |
| jam | Chipaca, I'll need your +1 on #338 at some point :) | 14:14 |
| mup | PR #338: ops/storage.py: Move SQLiteBackend <Created by jameinel> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/338> | 14:14 |
| Chipaca | jam: you've got it | 14:22 |
| Chipaca | jam: facundo'll need your +1 on charmcraft#57 also :-D | 14:23 |
| mup | PR charmcraft#57: Make pip list current packages before proceeding with the install <Created by facundobatista> <https://github.com/canonical/charmcraft/pull/57> | 14:23 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: meeting? | 14:32 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: booooooo you missed the meeting boo | 14:46 |
| * Chipaca boos | 14:46 | |
| facubatista | Chipaca, ugh | 14:49 |
| facubatista | there's something wrong with my notifications today | 14:49 |
| * Chipaca boos some more | 14:49 | |
| facubatista | damn, I super wanted to be in that meeting | 14:50 |
| facubatista | ok, pulseaudio is sending the irc audio notification through the headset | 14:52 |
| facubatista | even if there's no headset connected :/ | 14:52 |
| facubatista | ufa | 14:53 |
| * facubatista will need to reboot, probably, to fix this | 14:54 | |
| facubatista | Chipaca, any particular outcome/progress? | 15:01 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: the good news is, there is another one next week | 15:18 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: also, we should probably consider moving to click | 15:19 |
| facubatista | Chipaca, ack | 15:25 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: big asterisks on the click thing though :) | 15:25 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: charmcraft#58 might be of interest to you | 16:56 |
| mup | PR charmcraft#58: changes to snapcraft.yaml, and version, for 0.2.0 <Created by chipaca> <https://github.com/canonical/charmcraft/pull/58> | 16:56 |
| facubatista | might | 16:56 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: my devious plan is to land charmcraft#57 to master before landing that | 16:56 |
| mup | PR charmcraft#57: Make pip list current packages before proceeding with the install <Created by facundobatista> <https://github.com/canonical/charmcraft/pull/57> | 16:56 |
| facubatista | Chipaca, I'm *so* glad you're doing the snapcraft part :p | 16:57 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: I am too. At this point I have Opinions about it. | 16:58 |
| facubatista | Chipaca, I wonder how much of that hardcoded listings will change in time; it will be a maintenance problem? | 16:58 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: worst case, we delete the whole stanza and the snap grows 5× | 16:59 |
| Chipaca | not a terrible end | 16:59 |
| facubatista | ack | 16:59 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: for now, it works like this | 16:59 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: at some point maybe there'll be a better way | 16:59 |
| Chipaca | (like being able to call out to a git snap) | 16:59 |
| facubatista | yeap | 16:59 |
| Chipaca | almost all the really ugly bits is git | 17:00 |
| Chipaca | although picking and choosing python libs is also a pain, it's not as random | 17:00 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: for reference, I've done this with the icdiff snap, and it hasn't broken nor needed updated since I created it a couple of years ago | 17:01 |
| Chipaca | needed updating* | 17:01 |
| facubatista | Chipaca, nice | 17:01 |
| Chipaca | for 0.3, tab completion | 17:01 |
| Chipaca | icdiff, since 2018-09 (so just under 2 years) | 17:02 |
| Chipaca | filed charmcraft#59 for that | 17:03 |
| mup | Issue charmcraft#59: tab completion in-snap <Created by chipaca> <https://github.com/canonical/charmcraft/issues/59> | 17:03 |
| mup | PR operator#338 closed: ops/storage.py: Move SQLiteBackend <Created by jameinel> <Merged by jameinel> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/338> | 17:35 |
| jam | Chipaca, facubatista operator#323 updated | 17:39 |
| mup | PR #323: 317 state get <Created by jameinel> <https://github.com/canonical/operator/pull/323> | 17:39 |
| facubatista | Chipaca, I don't like pointing the user to the logfile when CommandError | 17:51 |
| facubatista | Chipaca, or at least we need another exception that is "ended in error", but more gentle | 17:53 |
| facubatista | for example, it doesn't make sense to point the user to the logs when: raise CommandError("the requirements file was not found: {!r}".format(str(fpath))) | 17:53 |
| facubatista | but it does make sense when: raise CommandError("problems installing dependencies") | 17:54 |
| facubatista | maybe we need a CommandCrashed (pointing user to the logs) and CommandError (more gentle) | 17:54 |
| facubatista | what do you think? | 17:55 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: sounds like it, yes | 18:46 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: the difference being, i think, that in one case we can easily summarise the problem in Human, whereas in the other we can't | 18:47 |
| facubatista | Chipaca, the difference for me, which I'm not finding how to express in the name of the error class, is "here's a problem that I can explain you and give you some hint about how to solve", and "we found a problem because something exploded beneath us and we don't know really what or why" | 19:04 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: KnownError(CommandError)? | 19:04 |
| facubatista | the only case so far for the second case is when installing dependencies | 19:05 |
| facubatista | even a error from the store is a "controlled" one | 19:05 |
| facubatista | mmm... IF the store is really telling us an error in a field, it's a controlled one | 19:06 |
| facubatista | if the store explodes in unpredictable ways, is also the second case | 19:06 |
| facubatista | CommandControlledError vs CommandUnknownError | 19:06 |
| facubatista | ThisIsSomewhatExpectedError vs WhatWillWeDoWithAllThisBloodError | 19:07 |
| facubatista | Chipaca, so, release? | 19:58 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: looks like it | 20:45 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: think you can write up a release blurb? | 21:30 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: for https://github.com/canonical/charmcraft/releases/edit/untagged-c8c90d68c4d08c8e2547 | 21:30 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #smooth-operator to: general discussion of the operator framework || github.com/canonical/operator || ops 0.6.1 || charmcraft 0.2.0 | ||
| Chipaca | facubatista: edit https://github.com/canonical/charmcraft/releases/tag/0.2.0 when you can (or i can do it tomorrow) | 21:35 |
| facubatista | Chipaca, I can do it, but tomorrow | 21:38 |
| Chipaca | 0.2.0 in github, pip, and snap | 21:40 |
| Chipaca | facubatista: ⁵ | 21:40 |
| Chipaca | EOD here | 21:43 |
| * facubatista eods too | 21:45 | |
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