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seb128 | goood morning desktopers! | 06:08 |
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luna_ | morning | 06:32 |
duflu | Hi seb128 and luna_ | 06:35 |
Laney | guten morgen! | 08:02 |
jibel | cpaelzer_, is there anything in latest libvirtd in groovy that could affect networking? I'm trying to figure out why suddenly I've no network inside the guest. | 08:02 |
jibel | the guest is a focal live session with daily from yesterday | 08:03 |
duflu | Hi Laney | 08:06 |
Laney | moin duflu | 08:15 |
seb128 | hey duflu, Laney, jibel, how are you in a summer day? | 08:30 |
duflu | seb128, it's winter but sunny. How are you? | 08:31 |
seb128 | duflu, I'm alright, hopefully having a 'normal' work day today and I can get some work done, though it's going to be over 30°C and melting in front of the keyboard sucks a bit | 08:33 |
seb128 | we have extra heat until tomorrow and then rain over the weekend :/ | 08:33 |
duflu | To be fair, a month into winter and we're only now below 20 degrees so it's OK | 08:33 |
jibel | seb128, going well.enjoying the beach on the evening | 08:35 |
seb128 | jibel, :-) | 08:41 |
duflu | jibel is winning June | 08:42 |
Laney | moin seb128 | 08:45 |
Laney | bit sad that all the nice days are during work time and then the weekend sucks | 08:45 |
seb128 | indeed :/ | 08:46 |
* Laney does the 'rm fontconfig cache' trick to get emojis back in Chromium | 08:48 | |
Laney | why did I switch to Chromium like a month ago? I can't even remember any more, might go back to the nice Firefox deb :> | 08:48 |
Laney | dear chromium, please exit when I exit you | 08:52 |
seb128 | Laney, if I understand that bug correctly it's snapd screwing the font cache which breaks deb apps as well (but maybe firefox doesn't rely on fontconfig for emoji?) | 08:52 |
seb128 | unless you do purge snapd along chromium which would fix the problem on your system | 08:53 |
Laney | I never saw broken colour emoji anywhere else | 08:54 |
Laney | but actually purging the cache didn't fix it in chromium either | 08:54 |
Laney | 🤷 | 08:54 |
Laney | (^- that one is coloured for me) | 08:54 |
seb128 | callmepk, hey, you mentioned you had wslu SRUs waiting for sponsoring, do you have merge requests for packages for those? | 08:54 |
Laney | Firefox works | 08:55 |
seb128 | Laney, I was commented based on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1858636/comments/31 also the noto-color-emoji is missing from the fontcache | 08:55 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1858636 in snapd (Ubuntu) "snapd generates incomplete fontconfig caches, result in emoji rendering issue in chromium" [High,Confirmed] | 08:55 |
seb128 | so I don't understand why it doesn't impact e.g gnome-characters | 08:55 |
Laney | maybe I have a different problem then | 08:55 |
seb128 | speaking of that bug | 08:56 |
seb128 | jamesh, ^ the snapd team bounced back to us, could you maybe help and reply to some of the questions for Ian on the bug? | 08:56 |
* jamesh looks | 08:57 | |
seb128 | jamesh, start reading at comment 37 | 08:59 |
seb128 | before it's noise of users and triager trying to understand what's going on and how to trigger the issue | 09:00 |
jamesh | seb128: I suspect the problem is down to freetype versions: I think snapd is running bionic's version of fc-cache statically linked against xenial's freetype | 09:15 |
seb128 | :/ | 09:16 |
seb128 | why are they not using versions from the same serie? | 09:16 |
seb128 | also any easy way to confirm that? would be nice if snaps logged the fc-cache output | 09:17 |
jamesh | it's trying to build binaries that will run against the core snap's libraries | 09:17 |
jamesh | I think they assumed the cache differences were only down to fontconfig versions | 09:17 |
jamesh | I've got a general idea about how we can handle this better with private fontconfig caches for snaps, but haven't built the prototype yet | 09:18 |
seb128 | k | 09:18 |
jamesh | this would be roughly one cache for each gnome platform snap we publish | 09:19 |
seb128 | jamesh, thanks, that's useful input ... can you comment that on the bug? | 09:19 |
jamesh | I'm writing the comment now | 09:19 |
seb128 | great | 09:19 |
seb128 | thx again! | 09:19 |
seb128 | Trevinho, did you notice that the bionic SRU for bug #1793496 failed to build? | 09:19 |
ubot5 | bug 1793496 in Mutter "scaling changes when closing/re-opening the lid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1793496 | 09:19 |
seb128 | not only that bug, it's just the one reference, but that's the update to a git snapshot you did | 09:20 |
jibel | Laney, is there a way to simulate an rst drive in a vm? | 09:32 |
jibel | I want to test the rst code of the installer | 09:32 |
seb128 | jibel, ubiquity/plugins/ubi-prepare.py: return os.environ.get('SHOW_RST_UI', '0') == '1' | 09:34 |
seb128 | try setting that env maybe? | 09:34 |
seb128 | well, depends if you just want to see the page or actually test the detection of the disk I guess | 09:35 |
jibel | sounds like what I need. I'll have a look. However I want an RST drive and another that is not to verify that you can install on the second drive even if the first is bitlocker'd | 09:36 |
jibel | otherwise I'll play with the code a bit | 09:37 |
Laney | jibel: not that I know of, no | 09:41 |
Laney | Hack the detection code to return true for one of the drives or something | 09:42 |
jibel | yeah, i'll do that | 09:43 |
jibel | not really sru'ish but well... | 09:43 |
Laney | ah for testing instructions? | 09:46 |
Laney | maybe having an env var to do that would be good | 09:46 |
Laney | UBIQUITY_PRETEND_DRIVE_IS_RST=... | 09:47 |
ricotz | good morning desktopers! | 09:59 |
ricotz | seb128, hi :), could you process https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nodejs/12.18.0~dfsg-3ubuntu1 which is in NEW | 10:00 |
seb128 | ricotz, hey ricotz, k | 10:10 |
ricotz | seb128, thank you | 10:12 |
seb128 | yw! | 10:12 |
seb128 | ricotz, bug #1885006 is something for you or for Olivier when he's back? | 10:47 |
ubot5 | bug 1885006 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Search Service broken on Ubuntu Nightly builds" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1885006 | 10:47 |
ricotz | seb128, thanks, this looks like an issue for both of us which would hit firefox 79 beta | 10:52 |
seb128 | ricotz, I will drop an email to Olivier so he saws it once he's back | 10:53 |
ricotz | seb128, looks like a simple variable rename of upstream, so an easy fix | 11:08 |
seb128 | ricotz, great! | 11:08 |
seb128 | ricotz, do you have an easy way to flag that to Olivier or should I better drop him an email as a FYI? | 11:09 |
ricotz | I can leave a comment in the bug report point to the fix | 11:10 |
seb128 | ricotz, thx | 11:11 |
seb128 | Laney, did you see the discussion on #debian-gnome about our geoclue delta the other day? do you have any opinion on that? | 11:32 |
seb128 | I'm pondering just dropping the delta and syncing back | 11:32 |
Laney | seb128: I did but it seemed Simon handled it with you so I didn't think about it much | 11:32 |
Laney | let me see what the delta is | 11:33 |
seb128 | Laney, it's making the lib depends on the service | 11:33 |
Laney | this is something from me from a few years ago | 11:34 |
Laney | did bigon say anything about adding it? | 11:35 |
Laney | I think it still makes sense, but it could maybe be a recommends as most apps which use geoclue can work ok without it | 11:36 |
Laney | that amazon launcher probably should have been made to not crash | 11:36 |
Laney | ah I forgot bigon is in here :> | 11:36 |
seb128 | Laney, we discussed on #debian-gnome if you have the backlog of 2 days ago (iirc) but summary is that him and Simon think it's better to let the apps that need the service recommends/depends on it | 11:40 |
seb128 | Simon's argument was that most GNOME components that links again the lib don't really need the service | 11:40 |
seb128 | e.g calendar, initial setup, settings-daemon | 11:41 |
Laney | the way I read that conversation they both mentioned recommends | 11:41 |
seb128 | from the lib to the service? | 11:42 |
Laney | yes | 11:42 |
seb128 | <smcv>seb128: in cases like libdbus-1-3 Recommends dbus, we still get occasional complaints about "installing $app pulled in $service, this is GNOME bloat" | 11:42 |
seb128 | so yeah, that discussion has argument for ang against the recommends | 11:42 |
Laney | but libdbus still does have that recommends so ... | 11:43 |
seb128 | it feels like we failed to have a conclusion at the end, I will ask bigon again | 11:43 |
Laney | that was a mention of what sometimes happens | 11:43 |
seb128 | well just did I guess :p | 11:43 |
seb128 | right | 11:43 |
seb128 | Laney, thx, I try another round to see if the recommends could be added in Debian | 11:45 |
Laney | silly non team maintained packages! | 11:46 |
Laney | I would have done something about it in 2017 otherwise :p | 11:46 |
seb128 | :-) | 11:46 |
bigon | for https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=834176 I think I will close it as wontfix, there is no reason that the -dev pkg needs the daemon | 11:53 |
ubot5 | Debian bug 834176 in libgeoclue-2-dev "libgeoclue-2-dev should depend on package geoclue-2.0" [Normal,Open] | 11:53 |
bigon | for https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=864305, I guess a patch that conditionally add the Depends/Recommends for ubuntu is fine as a 1st step | 11:54 |
ubot5 | Debian bug 864305 in libgeoclue-2-0 "libgeoclue-2-0 doesn't depend on geoclue-2.0" [Normal,Open] | 11:54 |
bigon | was the m-a co-instability evalatuated? | 11:54 |
bigon | TBH I'm way more annoyed by https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/geoclue/geoclue/-/issues/111 not being fixed | 11:54 |
Laney | geoclue-2.0 should be foreign probably | 11:55 |
ricotz | is someone able to do a simple runtime test of a firefox build on s390x? | 12:19 |
ricotz | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/19506686/+files/firefox-trunk_79.0~a1~hg20200625r537255-0ubuntu0.20.04.1~umd3_s390x.deb | 12:21 |
seb128 | bigon, right, that upstream issue is annoying :/ also I got no traction when I asked on our side about the BTS bug | 12:28 |
bigon | Zeeshan said he will fix it "soon" but he's not opposed if somebody is doing it https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/geoclue/geoclue/-/merge_requests/70#note_528935 | 12:30 |
seb128 | take over :) | 12:30 |
seb128 | ricotz, it starts fine, compared to the archive version that segfaults | 12:33 |
ricotz | seb128, that is quite something then :) | 12:34 |
seb128 | :-) | 12:36 |
jibel | xnox, I'm verifying bug 1847898. I created a VM in legacy mode with 3 disks and selected to install on vdc. grub-install runs on the /dev/vdc. | 12:57 |
ubot5 | bug 1847898 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Focal) "System doesn't boot after installation - Legacy mode / 2 disks" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1847898 | 12:57 |
jibel | But after installation the machine doesn't find a bootable device. | 12:57 |
jibel | xnox, my test case is correct? | 12:57 |
jibel | is there any information I should dig for? | 12:57 |
jibel | ah actually wait | 12:57 |
jibel | hm, to make it boot I've to set disk3 as the first bootable device | 12:58 |
jibel | not sure it's specific to VMs | 12:59 |
jibel | ^ WDYT? | 12:59 |
xnox | jibel: what is the drive order set in like libvirt / virsh / qemu command line? | 14:05 |
xnox | jibel: or like can you ask to bring up the boot menu, and select the third drive, it then should boot fine. | 14:05 |
xnox | jibel: multi-disk selection in bios is a bit unpredictable. | 14:06 |
xnox | jibel: unlike UEFI where we create ubuntu entry, and order it to be first, even though it's disk3 install. | 14:06 |
jibel | xnox, yes, it boots fine when I changed the drive order. It's more a pb with libvirt/qemu which didn't try all the available drives | 14:06 |
xnox | jibel: it does, if one passes more options to it. | 14:07 |
xnox | jibel: i use virt-manager, and i can tick which drives to try, and in which order. I think there are qemu cmdline options / xml for that too | 14:07 |
xnox | jibel: <boot order="1"/> inside the <disk></disk in xml | 14:08 |
xnox | and let me check qemu cmdline options | 14:08 |
xnox | jibel: ,bootindex=2 on the -device .... stanza | 14:09 |
xnox | then it will try them all, in the defined order. | 14:09 |
xnox | jibel: but grub-install matches the selected drive means we did the right thing! | 14:09 |
jibel | indeed | 14:12 |
jibel | 5.6 didn't improve my sound issues. I keep losing hdmi output and all that remains are dummy entries | 14:24 |
ricotz | seb128, please don't forget about https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nodejs/12.18.0~dfsg-3ubuntu1 | 14:53 |
ricotz | (it is a required build-dep for firefox 78+) | 14:54 |
seb128 | ricotz, I know, Olivier asked me to get it uploaded before his holidays, I did the nagging and LocustusOfBorg uploaded | 14:56 |
ricotz | seb128, ok, I thought you are on ArchiveAdmin duty today | 14:57 |
seb128 | ricotz, I'm not really doing archive days but I'm happy to process pings between other things | 14:58 |
seb128 | ricotz, binaries accepted now | 14:59 |
ricotz | I see, thanks! | 14:59 |
seb128 | yw! | 14:59 |
ricotz | maybe tweak this a bit - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveAdministration#Archive_days | 14:59 |
seb128 | ricotz, it has a warning 'Warning /!\ This is currently being re-assessed to a more task oriented approach, rather than regular admin days. ' | 15:24 |
seb128 | but yeah | 15:24 |
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Laney | see you monday! | 17:17 |
luna_ | Rolling Rhino :D | 17:28 |
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callmepk | seb128 I create a MR for wslu to fix the build issue, tested on 1804 and the build should work now | 22:37 |
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