[03:03] <timClicks> Docs review available for anyone with a rubber stamp https://github.com/juju/docs/pull/3507
[03:04] <timClicks> Actually, I'm just going to merge it in as it only brings the repo up-to-date with what's already there
[04:03] <timClicks> thumper: do you have any thoughts on the use cases for LXD should be described? with LXD clustering, I feel like saying that it's only for local development is selling it short
[04:13] <thumper> yes local development only would be selling it short
[04:14] <thumper> one use case I had thought about was using LXD cluseter to install maas
[04:14] <thumper> using LXD clusters, you have a very lightweight cloudish thing
[09:02] <stickupkid> manadart_, achilleasa : CR https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11762
[09:10] <manadart_> stickupkid: I'm looking.
[09:44] <stickupkid> manadart_, quick HO?
[10:03] <stickupkid> manadart_, hopefully that'll fix everything in that PR
[10:03] <manadart_> stickupkid: I already approved it.
[10:13] <achilleasa> manadart_: where was that code that you were showing me? My grep-fu only seems to match a call to Subnets() in client/subnets/cache.go with an UnknownId arg
[10:14] <manadart_> achilleasa: environes/networking, environs/space ?
[10:15] <manadart_> `ReloadSpaces` is in environs/space/spaces.go. That's where the fallback to subnet discovery is.
[10:15] <achilleasa> ah just found it :D
[10:16] <achilleasa> so the thing is that I can't seem to be able to get all CIDRs from the lxd api
[10:47] <flxfoo> hi all,
[10:48] <flxfoo> I would like to add some little things in `cloudinit-userdata` model config, but I have this error in return: The update path 'settings.' contains an empty field name, which is not allowed.
[11:35] <achilleasa> stickupkid: or manadart_ simple PR for a bug https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11763
[11:41] <manadart_> achilleasa: Will do it in a sec.
[11:43] <achilleasa> manadart_: not in a rush. If you have a few min later let's jump back into the HO to chat subnet discovery again bec I think I'm stuck
[11:56] <manadart_> achilleasa: Swap you: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11764
[14:52] <stickupkid> hml, i'm unsure we would want a mutex in the firewaller that gates every openstack call
[14:53] <achilleasa> manadart_: clear to land 11764
[14:53] <stickupkid> hml, esp. when ensureGroups could take forever depending on the api calls
[14:54] <achilleasa> can I get a CR on https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11765?
[14:54] <stickupkid> hml, we should be resilent against things not being there imo
[14:55] <hml> stickupkid: rgr.  in that case.  is it appropriate for us to be removing security group rules like this?  that aren’t in our list or egress rules?
[14:55] <stickupkid> let me check that next
[14:55] <stickupkid> hml, this worries me though https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11756/files#diff-cc8fa9cbee78e4f349622a6a1d6d9f24R570
[14:58] <hml> hahahaha
[14:59] <manadart_> achilleasa: Ta.
[15:35] <achilleasa> status tests seem to be flaky
[15:46] <stickupkid> hml, I think what the code is doing is fine, we just need to handle the issue that we may end up deleting a sg that's already gone
[15:46] <stickupkid> https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11756
[15:52] <hml> stickupkid: k,  i’ll review shortly
[16:26] <achilleasa> hml: can you also add https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11765 to the review queue? it's a really small patch
[16:27] <hml> achilleasa:  sure
[16:27] <achilleasa> petevg: you might also want to QA this before we land it ^^^
[16:31] <petevg> achilleasa: roger that.
[22:30] <bdx> hit this just now https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1885339
[22:30] <mup> Bug #1885339: unit not removed from relation <juju:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1885339>
[22:31] <bdx> I remove a unit, but it never leaves the relation
[22:31] <bdx> I'm thinking this can't be intended
[22:31] <bdx> is it?