[00:00] <bparker> looking at a gui also won't get much help
[00:00] <bparker> you need to use command-line tools
[00:00] <databoose> so i know for sure it's failing to detect the soundcard, but the soundcard is fine and works on a bootable usb
[00:00] <bparker> e.g. lspci or lsusb to show what devices the kernel detects, which is irrespective of what a GUI might support
[00:01] <bparker> there could be other issues inbetween
[00:01] <databoose> with lsusb it is showing my headset
[00:01] <bparker> is that different from your 'soundcard'
[00:02] <databoose> well yeah, it's just the usb detection not the soundcard itself
[00:02] <databoose> if i run pacmd list-cards it says there are 0 cards avaliable
[00:03] <bparker> you need to give us more info
[00:03] <bparker> what kind of sound card is this exactly? how is it attached to the system?
[00:03] <bparker> does lspci show it ?
[00:03] <bparker> pacmd is much higher level than the kernel so we need to be looking further down than that.
[00:04] <databoose> via USB, worked fine yesterday and the months before but all of the sudden stopped working, but works fine on a bootable USB and my phone
[00:05] <databoose> can't seem to find my headset in lspci, but here's the output
[00:05] <databoose> https://hastebin.com/raw/zaqusidiri
[00:05] <bparker> what do you mean by 'via USB' ? worked fine yesterday on what? the same system? have you changed anything since then?
[00:05] <bparker> what's different between the 'bootable usb' and the problematic OS ?
[00:05] <bparker> I don't know how 'headset' relates to this problem
[00:05] <bparker> you only said soundcard
[00:05] <databoose> i installed a few gstreamer 32 bit dev libraries to compile wine but not sure if that'd be associated with it
[00:06] <databoose> and no shit on the same system i think anyone with common sense could deduce that
[00:07] <bparker> ok I'm done, I don't need attitude.
[00:07] <databoose> not like i lost any potential help anyways
[00:21] <ForeverNoob[m]> oerheks: so as a prerequisite of reading about the HWE I am reading https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle and there it says:
[00:21] <ForeverNoob[m]> "In addition, the kernel versions from the subsequent four releases are made available on the latest LTS release of Ubuntu. So Ubuntu 16.04 LTS received the kernels from Ubuntu 16.10, 17.04, 17.10 and 18.04 LTS."
[00:22] <ForeverNoob[m]> so would that mean that I'd just receive the kernel from 20.04 on my 18.04?
[00:22] <oerheks> not sure hwe path is now at 20.04, but yes, it will be.
[00:23] <oerheks> my 18.04 hwe - Linux andy-hp 5.3.0-61-generic #55~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 22 16:40:20 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:24] <ForeverNoob[m]> are lowlatency kernels also included in HWE?
[00:25] <oerheks> oh, good question
[00:25] <Sven_vB> ForeverNoob[m], I'm not sure I understand the question, but one of my Xenial machines uses a a lowlatency hwe kernel.
[00:25] <oerheks> ubuntu-studio could tell, i guess
[00:25] <oerheks> ty Sven_vB
[00:26] <ForeverNoob[m]> oh ok cool
[00:27] <ForeverNoob[m]> so if I'm understanding correctly, I can only get newer kernels of subsequent Ubuntu releases if I enable HWE?
[00:27] <oerheks> yes
[00:28] <oerheks> one could take kernels from mainline, but you won't get updates, hwe does.
[00:28] <Sven_vB> afaik you get more experimental drivers with them. which on said machine means I had to stay with an older kernel because the newer ones caused problems with the display.
[00:28] <oerheks> it is more than just the kernel.
[00:28] <ForeverNoob[m]> ah yeah the mainline kernel way sounds painful
[00:28] <oerheks> forget ukuu
[00:29] <Ketzer> speaking of kernels ...
[00:29] <Ketzer> so i have Xubuntu 20.04 LTS (amd64) and i was thinking of installing the latest kernel.org stable kernel alongside the LTS stock kernel... if i do that and install by compiling and installing the deb packages, would autoremove mark the stock kernel for removal?
[00:29] <Ratel_> Yeah. I concur,lol
[00:29] <oerheks> !mainline
[00:29] <oerheks> you must have a reason to try
[00:30] <Ketzer> i'm not sure if that was for me; i'm going to try a stable kernel, not a mainline kernel
[00:30] <Sven_vB> Ketzer, while I don't now the answer, I'm almost sure you can make it keep the default kernel by explicitly installing it.
[00:30] <Sven_vB> *know
[00:30] <Ketzer> Sven_vB, i see
[00:34] <_Sym_> Ketzer, autoremove will not mark the stock kernel for removal if you build/install deb packages from korg
[00:35] <Ketzer> _Sym_, gotcha; so to be clear, that would only happen if i get a newer kernel release from an Ubuntu repository and install with apt?
[00:36] <_Sym_> autoremove will only remove older versions of things when a newer version is in the apt database.  The kernel you would be installing is not in the apt database.
[00:37] <Ketzer> i see, so the requirement is being in the apt database
[00:37] <_Sym_> yeah
[00:37] <_Sym_> for autoremove
[00:37] <Ketzer> all right, that's good. that way i always have the stock kernel to fall back on if the compiled kernel misbehaves
[00:38] <_Sym_> yes
[00:38] <Ketzer> i did have to modify the grub configuration for it to show me the menu on boot but oh well
[00:38] <_Sym_> yeah thats fine
[00:40] <_Sym_> Ketzer, there is one ubuntu specific patch that you might want to add to the kernel source when building from korg. its called "UBUNTU: SAUCE: (no-up) trace: add trace events for open(), exec() and uselib() (for v3.7+) (Scott James Remnant)"
[00:41] <Ketzer> _Sym_, add to the kernel source? would that be before starting the compile... ?
[00:41] <_Sym_> it works w/o it, but then you might get these "readahead" errors
[00:41] <_Sym_> yep
[00:41] <Ketzer> ... that's kind of an issue because, as we speak, the compile's being done lol
[00:42] <_Sym_> it will work w/o it
[00:42] <Ketzer> in any case, i didn't quite get you. what exactly is that and where would it go?
[00:44] <_Sym_> from ubuntu's github of the kernel, "git log --oneline --grep="trace: add trace events for open"
[00:45] <_Sym_> should be able to find it if you search git history
[00:46] <Ketzer> i see
[00:46] <Ketzer> well, hopefully it won't be a big issue
[00:46] <_Sym_> no, its not a big issue
[00:46] <Ketzer> if it is, i'll recompile with that for the next stable
[00:46] <_Sym_> just be aware that there are a few ubuntu specific patches
[00:46] <Ketzer> gotcha
[02:42] <kiwiirc> my OS doesn't run games very well but i don't wanna switch OS just for games. is it possible to run a linux distro off of a usb flash drive, and have persistent storage on the flash drive to install game/data to, and just boot the flash drive when i wanna game? if so, how's performance?
[02:44] <Bashing-om> kiwiirc: All USB speeds are slow in comparison to a hard drive - SSD performance is steps over that of a conventional hard drive.
[02:45] <BofHof> Hello. I am having trouble unmounting a folder with encryptfs. Google does not have the solution, and even the software's own manual suggests a command that does not exist. Where can I find out how to unmount a folder with this software?
[02:45] <kiwiirc> ah dang, even with fastest usb standard?
[02:46] <Bashing-om> kiwiirc: The interface spped is still slow :(
[02:46] <Bashing-om> speed*
[02:46] <kiwiirc> oh. dang
[02:47] <Bashing-om> kiwiirc: Install a SSD and you will never look back.
[02:50] <kiwiirc> i have an nvme drive, but that's for my OS
[02:50] <kiwiirc> do you mean install another internal drive to boot off of for gaming?
[02:52] <Bashing-om> kiwiirc: If it is speed that you want - there is nothing faster that I am aware of.
[02:52] <kiwiirc> ya i guess i could get a 2nd drive for gaming
[02:56] <kiwiirc> ty
[02:57] <Bashing-om> kiwiirc: Welcome - just my pennies' worth :D
[03:00] <amuro> How to install pdfjam?
[03:02] <Bashing-om> !info pdfjam bionic | amuro
[03:02] <Bashing-om> amuro: ^ where are you getting pdfjam ?
[03:03] <oerheks> obsolete https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pdfjam
[03:04] <amuro> I remembered pdfjam will install using some other packages
[03:05] <amuro> for example, texlive. But I dont want to install texlive now, it's too big
[03:05] <amuro> There is a smaller package that will also install pdfjam, but I forgot its name
[03:13] <alesan> hello
[03:13] <alesan> why some stuff is now installed with "snap" instead of apt?
[03:13] <alesan> what is the advantage?
[03:22] <Bashing-om> !info texlive-extra-utils xenial | amuro
[03:23] <oerheks> advantage: ubuntu likes snap
[03:23] <oerheks> !snap
[03:56] <RingtailedFox> heya guys... i was tryign to add two repositories to synaptic (one for smc, and one for allegro), but... they seem to not work. how would i go about removing them?  i get an odd error when i try to update them, as well...
[03:56] <matsaman> how'd you add them
[03:58] <RingtailedFox> via command line
[03:59] <RingtailedFox> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:allegro/5.2
[03:59] <RingtailedFox> which... should have worked, but it did not
[03:59] <RingtailedFox> said that's for Ubuntu 18.04+ (or derivatives thereof)
[04:00] <RingtailedFox> the other one was ppa:smc-packagers/ppa
[04:00] <RingtailedFox> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:smc-packagers/ppa
[04:01] <RingtailedFox> https://pastebin.com/qECRiEdL are the errors in particular
[04:02] <oerheks> software & updates > other software, disable them there, but i doubt they are enabled
[04:02] <oerheks> then reload, and remove.
[04:03] <RingtailedFox> alrighty
[04:03] <oerheks> or add-apt-repository -r <ppa>
[04:03] <oerheks> :-)
[04:03] <RingtailedFox> that one worked (the -r one)
[04:04] <RingtailedFox> is there a way to force-enable them?  i'd like to have allegro 5.2 available
[04:04] <oerheks> if there are no packages to reverse, or installed, it is easy
[04:05] <oerheks> indeed, no focal https://launchpad.net/~allegro/+archive/ubuntu/5.2
[04:05] <oerheks> and ancient.. https://launchpad.net/~smc-packagers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[04:07] <RingtailedFox> yeah... but it's one of my favourite linux games
[04:07] <oerheks> fork it, and publish as snap if the license permit it?
[04:07] <oerheks> :-P
[04:07] <RingtailedFox> it's GPL and i'd love to once i figure otu how to do it
[04:07] <RingtailedFox> (out
[04:08] <oerheks> snapcraf.io is a good start
[04:08] <oerheks> #snappy
[04:08] <oerheks> err snapcraft.io
[04:10]  * RingtailedFox nods
[04:11] <RingtailedFox> still, thanks :D
[04:15] <RingtailedFox> and now for something somewhat different... https://www.geeksaresexy.net/2016/10/06/save-princess-8-programming-languages-comic/ :P
[04:55] <josephillips> hey
[04:56] <josephillips> where i can report a kernel bug
[04:56] <matsaman> start with Ubuntu's bug tracker
[04:56] <Eickmeyer> !bug | josephillips
[04:59] <josephillips> is weird honestly
[04:59] <josephillips> this bug
[04:59] <josephillips> before was working perfectly
[04:59] <josephillips> putting a nfs client under heavly load
[05:00] <josephillips> throw this error before the kernel panic
[05:00] <josephillips> NFS: Server wrote zero bytes, expected 65536.
[05:00] <josephillips> invalid opcode: 0000 [#1] SMP PTI
[05:00] <josephillips> kernel BUG at /build/linux-UhTchP/linux-4.15.0/mm/slub.c:295!
[05:07] <stompykins> kernel 4.15???
[05:07] <stompykins> what version of ubuntu are you running
[05:08] <stompykins> im on 5.4.0-38, and i still have a reboot for the new kernel
[05:09] <josephillips> well
[05:09] <josephillips> im trying to follow this url
[05:09] <josephillips> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/CrashdumpRecipe
[05:10] <josephillips> but this site not working
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> stompykins: kernel 4.15 is not so weird, and still in use for users that started with 18.04
[05:20] <stompykins> oh ok
[05:20] <stompykins> i didnt realize it went up that fast
[05:20] <stompykins> linux kernel is updating like chromium now
[05:20] <stompykins> or firefox
[05:20] <stompykins> went from like 4.0 to 70
[05:23] <Ketzer> what? no, latest stable is like 5.7.6
[05:31] <oerheks> !latest
[05:49] <Darzn> simple newbie question - why is so hard to make simple shortcut on desktop (from windows user perspective)? is possible drag'n'drop? What is the prefered method how You do this?
[06:04] <oerheks> Darzn, it is blocked, by design, you can enable it, by installing gnome-tweak-tool
[06:04] <oerheks> !info gnome-tweak-tool
[06:04] <oerheks> also the tool to manage gnome extentions
[06:32] <analogical> in the editor nano how do I save and exit?
[06:34] <ThinkT510> ctrl+x
[06:35] <Bashing-om> analogical: errr - save and exit : ctrl+o then ctrl+x .
[06:36] <rud0lf> can i use $HOME in .nanorc (backup directory setting)?
[06:37] <rud0lf> or to not make it XY problem, will backupdir be $HOME relative?
[06:39] <rud0lf> hm never mind, ~/.backup-dir works
[06:39] <rud0lf> $HOME doesn't
[07:35] <OxxY> Hi, I recently installed Ubuntu 20.04 server. I would like to setup a DNS service on it (pihole). But port 53 is used by the DNSstubListener. If I disable it in resolved.conf I cannot resolve any adresses on the system. Google says to do stuff with the network manager, but it is not installed, and the documentation says it's only recommended for Core. Any ideas on how to disable the dnsstublistener
[07:35] <OxxY> without breaking DNS lookup on the system?
[07:36] <lotus|NUC> OxxY: you can try #ubuntu-server if you like for likeminded volunteers
[07:36] <OxxY> cheers will do
[07:42] <guiverc> OxxY, just FYI:  `desktopify` adds Network.Manager to r.pi server images for r.pi and maybe one option for how to use NM esp. if on r.pi - https://github.com/wimpysworld/desktopify/blob/master/README.md
[07:46] <OxxY> not on rpi, but thanks.
[07:53] <vuurdraak> Q: i have reinstalled ubuntu 18.04.4 on top of it self after upgrading my hardware, due to first not understanding that it probably refused to boot due to having UEFI on in the BIOS and later turning it off after i probably crippled the already installed OS before i found out it had to do with UEFI that it didnt want to boot properly, i got everything working again, but some stuff seems to behave weirdly, like programs that i install/reinstall dont
[07:53] <vuurdraak> directly open from the software installer, but do if i search for them in the dash, and/or a program that suddenly refuses to open after booting, is there any folder or stuff i should purge extra, or simply try to purge any missbehaving program and reinstall , as i got weird things like ffmpeg knowing av1 codec, but kdenlive not recognizing it even though i got vlc finaly recognizing it
[08:12] <yuta> A:How about upgrade to 20.04?
[08:15] <vuurdraak> reinstalling or upgrading is always a possibility yes :) but i see that as a last resort
[08:15] <vuurdraak> i was happy i got all stuff back without doing a format/reinstall
[08:17] <vuurdraak> its interesting how messy stuff can get , as you now have multiple locations from where stuff can be installed in other words through apt-get or snap or manual installs :')
[08:18] <vuurdraak> and i would reinstall 18.04.4 again rather then upgrade to 20 so i can copy back a backup of my home folder, as its a pain to reinstall programs running in wine/lutris with multiple gig game downloads
[08:22] <cluelessperson_> Is there a way to know the max speed my wifi card can support?
[08:23] <vuurdraak> purging stuff both from apt-get and snap and then reinstalling seems to do the trick most times, i simply dont understand why kdenlive or totem (but i dont know if totem uses ffmepg or its own codec library) is refussing to play av1 even though vlc now plays it again, whats weird also is that many help websites claim av1 should be playable from the standard ubuntu installs but i wouldn't do it untill i compiled ffmpeg my self and purging all other
[08:23] <vuurdraak> ffmpegs on the system, same with vlc
[08:24] <cluelessperson_> vuurdraak, I don't think flc uses FFMPEG
[08:24] <cluelessperson_> vlc uses ffmpeg*
[08:24] <vuurdraak> k
[08:24] <cluelessperson_> vuurdraak, most likely you inadvertently upgraded vlc I think.
[08:24] <vuurdraak> vlc does use ffmpeg
[08:25] <vuurdraak> and a lot of other stuff, at least the snap version i got uses it
[08:26] <vuurdraak> but some things use intermediate programs like kdenlive seem to use melt, and melt then uses ffmpeg again, wich just makes me think maybe i should actualy purge melt and reinstall, maybe that helps
[08:28] <vuurdraak> mm noop :')
[08:29] <vuurdraak> im not sure also if it could open it propperly before to be honnest, but it seems weird that ffmpeg & vlc can open it but kdenlive and shotcut & openshot can not
[08:40] <kotaro> hello
[08:40] <vuurdraak> hello
[08:41] <kotaro> it's about 2am where I live, so good morning?
[08:41] <kotaro> I am on Ubuntu 20.04, good stuff
[08:43] <vuurdraak> nice :) you have a problem question & good day to you
[08:44] <kotaro> thanks
[08:52] <vuurdraak> cluelessperson_, i would think best way to know what max speed hardware suports is looking up the hardware specs online ?
[08:52] <cluelessperson_> vuurdraak, I mean, as configured, what can ubuntu allow with this card?
[08:52] <cluelessperson_> in theory this should be a 1Gbps card
[08:52] <cluelessperson_> but now I only get 140mbps
[08:52] <vuurdraak> i would think if stuff works in ubuntu it would also normaly support its max speed ?
[08:53] <cluelessperson_> vuurdraak, dunno, a lot of manufacturers don't support linux for drivers
[08:53] <vuurdraak> mm weird indeed
[08:53] <cluelessperson_> and generic drivers may not implement various features
[08:53] <vuurdraak> you could use an usb wifi adapter, as most usb stuff works properly i think in linux
[08:54] <vuurdraak> if no driver/software will properly work as last resort
[08:57] <vuurdraak> im a noob though, i have no idea how to find out what speed is supported on a wifi adapter
[09:00] <Industrial> Hello.
[09:00] <Industrial> Say I find a package that I installed using `dpkg -l | grep derp`.
[09:01] <Industrial> How do I list all the files/directories created / managed by that package?
[09:01] <EriC^^> Industrial: dpkg -L package
[09:01] <Industrial> okay, thanks
[09:02] <Industrial> In my case, I am trying to install the ZeroMQ gem for ruby.
[09:02] <Industrial> https://zeromq.org/languages/ruby/
[09:02] <Industrial> But I'm getting the error `mkmf.rb can't find header files for ruby at /usr/lib/ruby/include/ruby.h`
[09:03] <Industrial> in which case the guide says `If the gem installation complains that it cannot find libzmq or headers, simply pass the location of your libzmq installation to the gem install command:`
[09:03] <Industrial> `gem install zmq -- --with-zmq-dir=/opt/local`
[09:03] <Industrial> However, I don't know where this zmq dir should be.
[09:03] <Industrial> The packages matching `libzmq` that I have installed are: libzmq3-dev libzmq5 libzmqpp-dev libzmqpp4
[09:18] <vuurdraak> i made an bootable usb with "startup disk creator" is there a way to remove the locked ubuntu joliiet image as gparted and disks seem to refuse to remove it
[09:19] <kedihacker> what
[09:20] <vuurdraak> nvm got it, needed to start gparted as root
[09:21] <kedihacker> thanks to you for finding solutation
[09:21] <vuurdraak> :D
[09:21] <kedihacker> i got a question
[09:21] <kedihacker> how many people actualy onlie
[09:21] <vuurdraak> on the whole planet ?
[09:22] <kedihacker> in this server its says 1208 people but how many people actualy looking or checkin here
[09:22] <kedihacker> there is no chat is going on
[09:22] <vuurdraak> doesn't the server say that in the motd when you login ?
[09:23] <vuurdraak> and this question has nothing to do with ubuntu this is the ubuntu help channel
[09:23] <kedihacker> yes but no one using it
[09:47] <dbugger> Hi everyone
[09:48] <dbugger> I have an issue opening an app. It seems to not start, but it shows a window displaying "garbage" (which seems to grab from another monitor)
[09:48] <dbugger> Not sure if there is a corrupted file anywhere in the system, that might be making the application crash...
[09:49] <dbugger> The application is Unity3D, in case that is important...
[09:49] <dbugger> I described the issue with a little more detail here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1253948/window-frozen-with-some-static-background-nonsense
[09:49] <dbugger> If anyone could give me a hand, I would appreciate it a lot
[09:50] <vuurdraak> unity3d ? is that running in wine ?
[09:50] <dbugger> No, there is a Linux client
[09:51] <vuurdraak> is this the first time you have installed it ? or it was installed before?
[09:51] <dbugger> It has been working for months. Yesterday was working fine.
[09:52] <vuurdraak> maybe remove it completely with --purge so all stuff including configuration files get removed and then reinstall, if a normal reinstall doesnt work ?
[09:52] <dbugger> The thing is that I am not installing it directly. There is an AppImage of something called "UnityHub" that handles the installs of every version
[09:53] <dbugger> The Hub works just fine, it is just when it opens up the project with the selected version, that it crashes
[09:53] <vuurdraak> maybe synaptic will still see it and it can do a 'complete removale' ?
[09:53] <dbugger> (im pretty sure they are separate applications)
[09:53] <dbugger> Unlikely. I am quite sure that it is just a folder, with an executable file
[09:53] <vuurdraak> or is it a an app image without needing to install ?
[09:54] <vuurdraak> maybe make a backup of its folders and remove anything related to it and then try again, as maybe some file in there is corrupted ?
[09:54] <dbugger> I have tried to remove all the folders with "Unity" under ~/.config but it did not help
[09:55] <vuurdraak> did you install any extra program between it working and not working anymore ?
[09:55] <dbugger> not to my recollection
[09:55] <vuurdraak> mm strange
[09:55] <dbugger> Actually, im pretty sure I didnt
[09:56] <ubuntuuser> hey
[09:57] <vuurdraak> i see you ask there about cache files, there isboth a .cache & a .config folder in your home folder, maybe there is stuff left there you have not deleted
[09:57] <vuurdraak> or that is corrupted related to unity3d
[10:01] <dbugger> Oh right
[10:01] <dbugger> there is a .cache
[10:01] <dbugger> I didnt try that
[10:01] <dbugger> let me see
[10:01] <dbugger> mmm... there doesnt seem to be any Unity-related files inside
[10:02] <dbugger> nope, there arent
[10:03] <vuurdraak> the .config also has nothing ?
[10:03] <dbugger> the .config does have, but I already tried emptying it, and it didnt work
[10:05] <vuurdraak> you could make a backup of your .cache folder: mv .cache .cache_backup (just to be sure) and then deleting everything inside of it
[10:06] <vuurdraak> maybe there is something there not named unity3d that still mangles it
[10:06] <vuurdraak> if stuff fails after reboot you can then always copy it back from the back up
[10:09] <dbugger> I guess I could, but Id like to find an option without rebooting
[10:09] <vuurdraak> sometimes you need to reboot to make stuff works even though linux claims it can do stuff without booting
[10:10] <vuurdraak> as it might be using the old instance and only use the new one after boot
[10:10] <vuurdraak> im just a noob though not a linux sysadmin :')
[10:12] <vuurdraak> i had one time though with a program, that i purged all stuff, and only on deleting the whole .cache it started working again as it semed to have a corrupted file
[10:13] <dbugger> Thanks, I am going to try
[10:15] <vuurdraak> maybe you donmt need to boot though just deling emptying the .cache folder might be enough
[10:15] <vuurdraak> just that u make a backup of it, so stuff can be copied back if the next boot somehow fails, wich it probably wont
[10:17] <dbugger> Ok, that worked! :)
[10:17] <vuurdraak> yeeeh :D
[10:17] <dbugger> "cache"...
[10:17] <amuro> is htop broken in ubuntu 20.04 in wsl?
[10:17] <dbugger> I look forward to the day computers dont need to reboot :P
[10:18] <vuurdraak> :)
[10:18] <dbugger> vuurdraak, thanks mate
[10:18] <dbugger> you saved my productive day
[10:18] <vuurdraak> np nice that it worked, i would not have klnow what else could be done :)
[10:20] <vuurdraak> no idea amuro im on 18.4, maybe somebody else knows
[10:37] <ducasse> amuro: broken how?
[10:43] <ubuntuuser> hey I can't seem to connect to any wifi
[10:43] <ubuntuuser> fresh install
[11:09] <ubuntuuser> im back if any helpers are here?
[11:25] <falavic> when i open a sftp session with a host, where is the partition(don't know the exact term) of that host mounted?
[11:43] <sayhisname> hey im a photographer im on ubuntu and i need to find all the photos in a file format and put them in one place ; how do i find all files starting with 21062019 and in file format .cr2 then move them to a folder on the desktop?
[11:44] <sayhisname> all files have 21062019 then a time and a file number
[11:48] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:50] <sayhisname> BluesKaj, hej
[11:50] <sayhisname> hey im a photographer im on ubuntu and i need to find all the photos in a file format and put them in one place ; how do i find all files starting with 21062019 and in file format .cr2 then move them to a folder on the desktop? all files have 21062019 then a time and a file number
[11:56] <ioria> sayhisname, i'am a bit rusty in bash but  let's start with this :   for i in $(find /my/path   -iname '*.cr2' -and -iname '21062019*' 2>/dev/null ); do echo "$i"   ; done
[11:57] <sayhisname> ioria, this is the only copy of the files, I cant get this wrong is that copying and not cut?
[11:57] <EriC^^> sayhisname: find -type f -iname '21062019*.cr2' -exec mv {} ~/Desktop/mydir \;
[11:57] <ioria> sayhisname, nope, that's just print the filenames
[11:59] <ioria> sayhisname, if the output is correct , you can edit the line and cp/mv do whatever you want
[12:00] <sayhisname> they are probably in different folders
[12:00] <sayhisname> i need it to scan all the folders
[12:00] <ioria> sayhisname, use the parent pone
[12:00] <ioria> *one
[12:00] <sayhisname> find -type f -iname '21062019*.cr2' -exec mv {} ~/Desktop/mydir \;
[12:01] <sayhisname> that?
[12:01] <EriC^^> sayhisname: if 2 dirs contain the same name files, they will be overwritten though in /mydir, just fyi
[12:01] <ioria> sayhisname, the parent directory
[12:02] <sayhisname> these are someone wedding photos
[12:02] <sayhisname> i cant f up
[12:03] <ioria> sayhisname, the cmd above, just finds and prints the filenames, nothing more
[12:04] <sayhisname> ioria, find -type f -iname '21062019*.cr2' -exec mv {} ~/Desktop/mydir \; that just makes a list  and doesnt move or alter the files, its also scanning the whole disk?
[12:04] <ioria> sayhisname, that's not my command
[12:04] <sayhisname>  for i in $(find /my/path   -iname '*.cr2' -and -iname '21062019*' 2>/dev/null ); do echo "$i"
[12:04] <sayhisname> this?
[12:04] <ioria> yes
[12:05] <sayhisname> where does it print the file names?
[12:05] <EriC^^> sayhisname: didn't he say he only wants files starting with 21062019 though?
[12:05] <EriC^^> *didn't you
[12:05] <ioria> sayhisname,  for i in $(find /my/path   -iname '*.cr2' -and -iname '21062019*' 2>/dev/null ); do echo "$i"   ; done
[12:05] <EriC^^> nevermind
[12:07] <EriC^^> you could just do "find -type f -iname '21062019*.cr2'"   to print the names
[12:08] <ioria> maybe not the '21062019' has a .cr2 ext
[12:08] <ioria> *all
[12:08] <sayhisname> my camera makes two files one jpg and one cr2 with the same folder
[12:08] <sayhisname> not folder
[12:08] <sayhisname> file name
[12:09] <ioria> sayhisname, have you run the cmd   ' for i in $(find /my/path   -iname '*.cr2' -and -iname '21062019*' 2>/dev/null ); do echo "$i"   ; done' ?
[12:10] <sayhisname> i cd /media/diskname
[12:10] <sayhisname> then ran ' for i in $(find /my/path   -iname '*.cr2' -and -iname '21062019*' 2>/dev/null ); do echo "$i"   ; done
[12:11] <ioria> sayhisname,  clearly you need to change '/my/path'
[12:11] <ioria> sayhisname,  or are you running the cmd with '/my/path'  in ?
[12:11] <sayhisname> ' for i in $(find /media/diskname  -iname '*.cr2' -and -iname '21062019*' 2>/dev/null ); do echo "$i"   ; done
[12:12] <ioria> ok... and ?
[12:12] <sayhisname> its working
[12:12] <sayhisname> i think
[12:12] <sayhisname> its displaying >
[12:12] <ioria> ok, take a look and see if there are filenames with spaces missing
[12:13] <sayhisname> 20190621143054_IMG_0408.JPG
[12:14] <sayhisname> thats the file format name but with 20190621143054_IMG_0408.cr2
[12:18] <sayhisname> ioria, the file format name but is; i think  20190621143054_IMG_0408.cr2
[12:23] <ioria> sayhisname,  you mean the match is '20190621143054' and  not '21062019' ?
[12:25] <sayhisname> i checked the file format is actually yyyy mm dd hh mm ss _IMG_  then four numbers and the file format so for example   20190621143054_IMG_0408.JPG
[12:25] <ioria> sayhisname,  so it's jpg and not '.cr2' ?
[12:26] <sayhisname> the camera makes .jpg and cr2 with the same name
[12:26] <ioria> sayhisname, ok, but what is that you need ?
[12:29] <sayhisname> ok so ill try to explain; i have an external drive media/anon/ the files are totally disorginised but i belive the file names are formatted like  20190621143054_IMG_0408.JPG  in this case the 0408 is the identifyer
[12:29] <sayhisname> am i making sence?
[12:30] <ioria> sayhisname, so, you want : all the jpg pics with 0408 in them ?
[12:31] <sayhisname> no i want all the files from this date 20190621 in .cr2 format
[12:32] <ioria> sayhisname,  for i in $(find /my/path   -iname '*.cr2' -and -iname '20190621*' 2>/dev/null ); do echo "$i"   ; done
[12:33] <sayhisname> ok i cd to the directory?
[12:34] <ioria> sayhisname,  you specify the path  in the find command (... find /my/path...)
[12:34] <sayhisname> no results
[12:35] <ioria> sayhisname,  did you set the path ?
[12:42] <sayhisname> ioria, yes
[12:42] <sayhisname> it doenst work
[12:42] <ioria> and what is ?
[12:43] <ioria> sayhisname,  what is the path ?
[12:45] <sayhisname> https://imgur.com/a/dA2Lb0E
[12:46] <sayhisname> theres  lots of folders on that disk and i dont know which folder
[12:46] <sayhisname> also may be many other folders
[12:48] <ioria> sayhisname,  run this with no additions :  for i in $(find    -iname '*.cr2'   2>/dev/null ); do echo "$i"   ; done
[12:52] <sayhisname> ioria, https://pastebin.com/yuv184rZ
[12:53] <sayhisname> doesnt find them
[12:53] <sayhisname> but encouragingly is finding something :)
[12:53] <sayhisname> just not the right files
[12:57] <sayhisname> ioria,
[12:57] <sayhisname> that links only valid 10 mins
[13:09] <dtomato> Hello peeps!
[13:10] <dtomato> so, I've updated one of my machines from 19.10 to 20.04... and have come to realise I can't seem to connect to my office's exchange sever to get email anymore
[13:11] <dtomato> I think I've traced it down to being the server being old and "badly" configured, it only supports TLSv1, which looks like it's disabled by default in 20.04
[13:12] <SrPx> Is there any file explorer that looks like the one found on Windows (and not on OSX)? I.e., with a tree view on the left and the focused directory on the right?
[13:12] <dtomato> so I've modified /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf to globally "downgrade" the default openssl security settings, and when I do openssl s_client -connect host:port it now works, but the Gnome Online Accounts still fails with "goa_ews_client_autodiscover() failed: 6 — Error performing TLS handshake: A packet with illegal or unsupported version was received."
[13:14] <dtomato> anybody else run into this situation an know how to solve it? :D
[13:17] <dtomato> pfft... I guess that was wasted effort, seems like it's using gnutls, how is the same achieved with gnutls?!
[13:22] <coconut> SrPx, just checked and caja does has that optional from gui, but there are probably more file managers which support that too.
[13:27] <coconut> SrPx, btw, caja is default file manager for mate desktop.
[13:36] <ducasse> SrPx: try spacefm, you can configure it how you like it
[13:36] <SrPx> ty
[13:37] <dtomato> nevermind, figured it out, had to create a /etc/gnutls/config file and fill in a new default "priorities" string
[13:38] <V178> I'm having issues with DNS in 20.04, it's not resolving local domain names as I would expect. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/XbjpNxZ93C/ and https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bMggYrtDv3/
[13:38] <V178> I'm sure it's something I'm overlooking and not an issue with Ubuntu
[13:41] <jurajb0b0> Hi friends, maybe somebody have experience with nvme. I just want to install 18.04 to nvme disk.  But when I start the installation there are no /dev/nvme* devices or /sys/block/* in relation to nvme. Installation works well on classic ssd, but on nvme it sucks. Since the HW is lenovo I try to disable uefi, try with enable and disabled ahci etc. But it sucks. Any experiece or recommendation?
[13:44] <semitones> Hi, I'm trying for a new Ubuntu installation. I have 10 GB available on an SSD partition, and a 128 GB microSD available
[13:45] <semitones> Would it be advisable to use the SSD for some parts of the filesystem that can benefit from the speed, and use the microSD for other parts of the filesystem that won't degrade the microSD
[13:45] <BluesKaj> V178, have you tried editing dns and domains in /etc/systemd/resolved.conf ?
[13:54] <EriC^^> semitones: like what parts though
[13:55] <EriC^^> /var is out of question cause it has so many writes, if you use /usr then you'll probably get slower performance
[14:00] <semitones> I was thinking /home might be a good candidate for the microSD
[14:00] <semitones> I wasn't sure if swap should go on the SSD or the microSD
[14:01] <semitones> EriC^^, so /var/ and /usr/ should be on the SSD? I am slightly concerned that usr will run out of space, but maybe 10 GB is enough
[14:08] <entourage> there's a tool in LinuxMint called "Mint Stick" that creates bootable usbstick is it possible to install that app in Ubuntu somehow?
[14:11] <V178> @BluesKaj, I haven't tried modifying anything, but it would appear as though my dns settings are appropriate for resolution.
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> !mint | entourage
[14:13] <leftyfb> entourage: Ubuntu has a similar tool that writes an iso to a usb drive. It's typically meant to create an ubuntu install usb
[14:14] <entourage> leftyfb: whay don't you tell me what that tool is?
[14:15] <leftyfb> "Startup Disk Creator"
[14:15] <leftyfb> entourage: it's been there for 12 years
[14:16] <Sven_vB> in focal, gnome-calculator starts too slowly. do we have a more lightweight GUI calculator?
[14:16] <entourage> leftyfb: it's a worthless tool I'm sorry to say
[14:17] <leftyfb> entourage: why do you say that?
[14:17] <Sujinc> entourage: you can try etcher (https://www.balena.io/etcher/), very simple and efficient tool
[14:19] <Sven_vB> eww, I remember the pains of the startup disk creator. so glad I don't need it anymore because the SuperGRUB disk can chainload Ubuntu ISOs directly from my SSD. *shameless plug* :D
[14:20] <Sven_vB> it's so much quicker to boot from SSD rather than a thumb drive.
[15:04] <ophi> How do you get DNS resolution working in Ubuntu Server 20.04 with netplan removed (traditional ifup)?
[15:04] <ophi> `
[15:11] <leftyfb> ophi: dns-nameserver 8.8.8.8  # in your interfaces file
[15:15] <leftyfb> ophi: you were having issues yesterday .... I was trying to troubleshoot with you, but instead of listening and following what I was telling you, you were off doing your own thing, including removing netplan, which works just fine. Now you're running a non-standard installation and you still have issues.
[15:17] <ophi> leftyfb:  8.8.8.8 still doesn't work.  This issue is the same with and without netplan.
[15:18] <leftyfb> ophi: right, because as I told you yesterday, you have other issues not related to DNS.
[15:18] <ophi> It's also not related to netplan
[15:19] <leftyfb> ophi: right again, as I told you yesterday
[15:19] <ophi> leftyfb:  it's  also not internet issues nor network issues: only this single host isn't working
[15:19] <leftyfb> ophi: would you like help?
[15:20] <ophi> leftyfb:  I verified there are no firewall rules pertaining to this single host.
[15:20] <ophi> leftyfb:  yes
[15:20] <leftyfb> ophi: are you going to answer the questions I ask and follow the steps I suggest?
[15:21] <ophi> leftyfb:  sure
[15:22] <leftyfb> ophi: Do you have your Ubuntu 20.04 booted and accessible right now?
[15:22] <ophi> leftyfb:  yes
[15:22] <leftyfb> ophi: do you have any other linux machines on the same network running and accessible now?
[15:22] <ophi> Yes
[15:23] <ophi> lefty:  But no other Server 20.04
[15:23] <leftyfb> ophi: is that machine dhcp or static? server or desktop?
[15:23] <leftyfb> ophi: the non-20.04 machine
[15:24] <ophi> leftyfb:  static OpenSUSE Leap 15
[15:24] <leftyfb> ophi: ok, please pastebin the local network config for it. I assume it's an interfaces file
[15:26] <ophi> leftyfb:  yes, we disable NetworkManager and NetPlan in favor of traditional ifup configs
[15:27] <leftyfb> ophi: NetworkManager is not installed with Ubuntu server. Can you explain why you mention NetworkManager?
[15:28] <ophi> leftyfb:  It's in RHEL, etc.  Just stating we disable it because we experienced too many outages.
[15:28] <leftyfb> ophi: is it OpenSUSE or is it RHEL? Is it server or desktop? Are you installing a GUI on any of these "servers"?
[15:28] <ophi> leftyfb:  also, because we run multiple distros, we can use the same scripts, everyone is familiar with 1 standard method.
[15:29] <ophi> leftyfb:  The working  machine is OpenSUSE Leap 15
[15:29] <leftyfb> ophi: ok, please answer the other questions
[15:31] <leftyfb> ophi: on the Ubuntu 20.04 server, did you install a desktop environment?
[15:32] <ophi> leftyfb:  yes and no.  started to install MATE, but the intallation failed.  It's not running, but some of the files were isntalled.
[15:32] <ophi> leftyfb:  the failure was tdue to planned maintence on the network, nothing with the box.
[15:33] <leftyfb> ophi: did networking(DNS) work on this server at one point in time?
[15:34] <ophi> leftyfb:  yes, off and on.  was able to install ifupdown for instance
[15:35] <leftyfb> ophi: if it was working, why did you change anything?
[15:36] <The_LoudSpeaker> Hey everyone! So a friend of mine forgot to select 3rd party drivers during installation of ubuntu 20.04 and now after a week he realised that his audio isn't working. How can he install the required drivers now? Here's the output of lspci: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bJ2YzppTQS/
[15:36] <The_LoudSpeaker> Any help would be highly appreciated. TIA :)
[15:38] <leftyfb> ophi: it seems to me like this isn't a priority for you at the moment. Let me know when you have time to focus on troubleshooting. Otherwise, I cannot wait around for minutes between answers.
[15:39] <ophi> leftyfb:  https://pastebin.com/ErerPJNh
[15:41] <leftyfb> ophi: the subnet you posted yesterday was 192.168.1.2/24. Now you're posting 192.168.0.254/24
[15:41] <ophi> leftyfb:  was just off paste binning.   No changes other than (1) what we did yesterday and (2) disabling netplan today and it wasn't working prior to disabling netplan today.
[15:42] <V178> The_Loudspeaker: it doesn't look like you need third party drivers? How are the speakers connected? Audio port? HDMI?
[15:42] <ophi> sorry, typo, my cursor landed on it and deleted it by mistake and I typed t back in wrong.  It's 192.168.1.254
[15:43] <ophi> (dropped the mouse on the floor)
[15:44] <leftyfb> ophi: what range of the 192.168.1.0/24 pool is available for dhcp?
[15:44] <coconut> The_LoudSpeaker, try sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:45] <ophi> leftyfb: .100-.253
[15:45] <Lebeefoire> Hi all! Anyone have experience with Radeon 5700XT on ubuntu 18.04 and derivatives? (I am having issues on arch as well so it doesn't seem to be ubuntu specific). Getting regular hard lock crashes that force a reboot
[15:45] <leftyfb> ophi: ok, so 2-99 and 254 are available for static right?
[15:45] <ophi> leftyfb:  y
[15:45] <leftyfb> ophi: on your OpenSUSE machine, what is the gateway ip?
[15:46] <ophi> leftyb:  192.168.1.1
[15:47] <leftyfb> ophi: ok, on your Ubuntu 20.04 machine, can you ping 192.168.1.1?
[15:48] <ophi> leftyfb:  y, 100% of the time, even when DNS resolution isn't working (which is most of the time).
[15:49] <leftyfb> ophi: can you ping 91.189.88.142 ?
[15:49] <The_LoudSpeaker> V178: those are laptop' inbuilt speakers. Not external ones.
[15:50] <The_LoudSpeaker> coconut: i will try that.
[15:50] <ophi> leftyfb:  No, due to ICMP is blocked at the gateway
[15:51] <ophi> The suse machien can't either, but internet and name resolution work on it and all the other Linux and Windows boxes
[15:51] <shreyansh_k> Hello, I just upgraded to 20.04 LTS from 18.04.4 and Snap applications are no longer showing up in KDE's launcher nor I can launch them via terminal. For example: `code` in konsole won't launch VSCode. Any pointers?
[15:51] <coconut> The_LoudSpeaker, it's probably all you need
[15:51] <leftyfb> ophi: so, due to some ignorant security policy, you do not have the ability to ping OUT from your network?
[15:51] <The_LoudSpeaker> coconut: hope so.
[15:52] <ophi> leftyfb:  We cannot ping out.  However,  nslookup generally tells you whether or not you have connectivity and it works on the suse box but not the 20.04 server
[15:53] <V178> The_LoudSpeaker: I've not ever encountered laptop speakers that require third-party drivers. If that works, great! If not, you might look for a low level mute function or a physical key.
[15:53] <leftyfb> ophi: on the opensuse box, can you run and get back a result for "host ubuntu.com 8.8.8.8"
[15:53] <ophi> leftyfb:  also pathping or one or more variants works if we install it
[15:54] <The_LoudSpeaker> V178: I too thought so. If restricted extras doesn't work then for sure I mma ask about the key.
[15:54] <ophi> leftyfb:  yes
[15:55] <leftyfb> ophi: ok, it returns a bunch of ipv4 and ipv6 addresses right?
[15:55] <leftyfb> sorry, one of each and multiple entries for mail
[15:56] <The_LoudSpeaker> V178: yup. That key is the culprit almost everytime. I will ask him about that.
[15:56] <ophi> leftyfb:  y.  20.04 returns ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
[15:57] <leftyfb> ophi: please compare the output from the following on the OpenSuse and Ubuntu server:  route -n # as root/sudo
[15:58] <ophi> leftyfb:  route is not installed on 20.04 by default apparently.
[15:59] <ash_worksi> is there a term for a web server that validates against another server on the same network? I mean generally you validate against a remote server, the pattern to employ would be an oauth grant, but if it's all on the same network, that's a bit overkill, no?
[16:00] <leftyfb> ophi: "ip r l"
[16:00] <ophi> leftyfb:  I could try putting an entry in hosts for archive.ubuntu.com and see if I can install net-tools that way
[16:01] <tomreyn> !crosspost | ash_worksi
[16:02] <ophi> leftyfb:  20.04 no result.  suse returned correct result
[16:02] <leftyfb> ophi: please pastebin the network config for your Ubuntu 20.04 server
[16:04] <tatertotz> ash_worksi: you're looking for a "term"? a website / webserver could have a cert issued by a 3rd party CA OR a cert from a internal enterprise root CA
[16:09] <ovrh> Hey nice people <3 I have a stupid question: if I do "sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop", will that be enough to install xfce and stop using gnome? Or will there be gnome "leftovers" still there left to mess up my system?
[16:10] <V178> ash_worksi: you've described a directory server potentially (active directory, samda dc, etc.)
[16:10] <bjarne333> I would guess so. otherwise a manual reconfigure is needed to switch login manager etc.
[16:10] <V178> ash_worksi: nm, I didn't process your whole statement
[16:10] <coconut> ovrh, that will make a mess of both gnome and xfce apps over the desktops if you install them on the same partition.
[16:11] <ovrh> Ouch :(
[16:11] <tatertotz> ovrh: ideally you install the distro that uses what you want by "default" ...there can be side effects of trying to add after the fact. Side effects like duplicate applications or icons
[16:11] <coconut> ovrh, but you can create a dualboot
[16:11] <ovrh> So that's out the window I guess. Thank you coconut
[16:12] <coconut> ovrh, or you can use a virtual manager
[16:12] <ovrh> tatertotz, yeah, I installed ubuntu because I wanted to use ubuntu and gnome. But I'm really tired of gnome just randomly crashing without any apparent reason. I stuck with it so far, but it crashed twice just today, and I'm over it :/+
[16:13] <ash_worksi> V178: thanks for throwing that out though :)
[16:13] <ovrh> coconut, I can't virtualize it, I need to use vagrant and stuff. Would replace my daily driver. And dual boot isn't an option because I would have the gnome install that I wouldn't use then, so I might just as well reinstall
[16:13] <V178> ovrh: could you not simply remove ubuntu-desktop and install xubuntu-desktop?
[16:14] <ovrh> V178, No idea
[16:14] <V178> ovrh: try this https://askubuntu.com/questions/65861/how-to-i-change-from-ubuntu-to-xubuntu
[16:16] <ovrh> V178, I'll give it a look, thank you <3
[16:18] <coconut> ovrh, you can manually undo ubuntu-desktop, but you can also just reinstall xubuntu over your / partition if you have you documents and personal files on another partition(/home). I would have reinstalled, personally...
[16:21] <ovrh> coconut, I do, and that's honestly the route I'm considering the most. I'm gonna have to give a shot to xfce on live stick first or something since I never used it before
[16:22] <ophi> leftyfb: https://pastebin.com/VtpvB3As
[16:22] <coconut> ovrh, i hope you like it xfce!
[16:23] <coconut> *i hope you like xfce!
[16:23] <leftyfb> ophi: did you type that all out or is it a copy and paste?
[16:23] <ovrh> coconut, I just hope it doesn't crash xD
[16:24] <coconut> ovrh, on which computer you're gonna install xubuntu?
[16:25] <rjb> The_LoudSpeaker: for some fancy laptops with integrated e.g. beats audio you need to do some stuff using jack-retask tool
[16:26] <leftyfb> ophi: your config is not valid
[16:26] <The_LoudSpeaker> V178: sorry that's a desktop. He is using a 3.5mm audio port. And there's no mute key there. Restricted extras didn't work.
[16:26] <leftyfb> ophi: your gateway is wrong and you have no dns specified
[16:26] <The_LoudSpeaker> rjb: it's a desktop.
[16:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> Instructions on how to install and use jack-retask tool?
[16:29] <rjb> The_LoudSpeaker: hdajackretask is included in alsa-tools-gui
[16:29] <ophi> -----ls
[16:31] <leftyfb> ophi: ?
[16:31] <ovrh> coconut, My only one, my laptop
[16:33] <josephillips> hey im trying to figure out whats going on with a server
[16:33] <josephillips> im getting a kernel panic when i use dd to a remote nfs server
[16:33] <josephillips> my question is what exactly do slub.c on kernel
[16:33] <coconut> ovrh, nice! Is it a fast laptop?
[16:34] <jurajb0b0> :P Why does preseed/run  does not see nvme disk in ubuntu - version 18.04.  Could it be that there are no nvme modules loaded?
[16:35] <ovrh> coconut, Yeah. It was a beast when I bought it, and it's still super fast right now.
[16:36] <ophi>   sorry, my bad, that just happened this morning when you asked me to change the  dns to 8.8.8.8, I put it back to 192.168.1.1, and the dns is set in resolv.conf to 8.8.8.8, and still no name resolution
[16:36] <ophi> leftyfb:  also restarted networknig and systemd.resolved
[16:36] <coconut> ovrh, hehe, now you *have* to tell me which laptop!
[16:37] <jurajb0b0> @josephillips: I just guess your memory is tiny and you run out of memory. Enable oom killer and check again. I guess
[16:37] <josephillips> jurajb0b0: the server have 256gb of ram and is just using 180gb
[16:37] <josephillips> when in performing this
[16:37] <leftyfb> ophi: I didn’t tell you to do any of that
[16:37] <josephillips> also have a huge swap space and is not using it
[16:38] <jurajb0b0> Slab alocation are for kernel buffers and atomic operations.
[16:38] <josephillips> NFS: Server wrote zero bytes, expected 65536.
[16:38] <josephillips> kernel BUG at /build/linux-UhTchP/linux-4.15.0/mm/slub.c:295!
[16:39] <leftyfb> Can you take a picture of your interfaces file?
[16:39] <josephillips>  invalid opcode: 0000 [#1] SMP PTI
[16:39] <ovrh> coconut, I don't even remember exactly. It's a TuxedoComputers Tuxedo Book XP somethingsomething from a couple of years back
[16:39] <josephillips> always i got this error of nfs before the crash
[16:39] <josephillips> also this server is running a vms
[16:39] <josephillips> with kvm
[16:41] <coconut> ovrh, oh i can be jealous on that...
[16:41] <jurajb0b0> The information is from crash dump or from dmesg?
[16:42] <josephillips> from dmesg
[16:43] <dirtycajunrice> as an update to my question yesterday, delayed_register module option fixed it in the alsa code.
[16:43] <josephillips> but have a lot of information there
[16:43] <dirtycajunrice> i added the answer in my question from 3 months ago so that others wouldnt stub their toe where i did https://askubuntu.com/questions/1219914/alsamixer-usb-headphone-mic-combo-cannot-control-mic/1253852#1253852
[16:44] <josephillips> http://paste.openstack.org/show/795285/
[16:44] <The_LoudSpeaker> rjb: okay. I will try that.
[16:44] <tomreyn> josephillips: which kernel version was it running when it last occurred?
[16:45] <josephillips> the first time is on 4.15-79 and yesterday i upgrade it to the last one  4.15.0-108-generic
[16:45] <josephillips> ubuntu 18.04
[16:48] <andi_> is it a good idea to put a postfix inside a docker container
[16:49] <ovrh> coconut, It's pretty good machine tbh, and it got better with time. Manufacturer keeps working on stuff and releasing new things ease up some aspects of the usage. Not really any complaint
[16:50] <tomreyn> i see, so it even happens with the latest GA kernel in 18.04
[16:50] <ophi> leftyfb:  Have photo. how to send it?
[16:51] <jurajb0b0> josephillips: From experience, when there is hard written BUG :), I have not reason to not trust. The source code can be review - https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/mm/slub.c. Or any other repo. I guess there would be a problem with memory allocation, some of your buffers get saturated. Probably the best is kernel update. The best is to create memory dump and provide it to support. if not then I would check the slabtop on per
[16:51] <jurajb0b0> iodical manner, respl directly from file system, since slabtop is not the best performing tool.
[16:51] <jurajb0b0> Wish you a nice weekend
[16:51] <ubuntuuser> hey I can't get my ubuntu to connect to wifi. Anyone able to help?
[16:51] <leftyfb> ophi: http://imgur.com is a popular one
[16:52] <josephillips> jurajb0b0: im evacuating this host
[16:52] <josephillips> to replicate the issue
[16:52] <josephillips> the issue is easly replicated
[16:53] <josephillips> mount a nfs
[16:53] <josephillips> run a dd to this volumune
[16:53] <josephillips> wait few seconds
[16:53] <josephillips> and thats it
[16:53] <rjb> The_LoudSpeaker: i suggest to search for the specific sound chip and see if you can find some instructions from somebody successfully setting it up. otherwise you have to play around quite a lot
[16:53] <tatertotz> josephillips: i can write to my nfs with dd without issue
[16:53] <tatertotz> josephillips: have you tried with a different NFS?
[16:54] <tatertotz> josephillips: you probably only have that one to test with
[16:54] <josephillips> tatertotz: using nfs 4.1 with pnfs?
[16:55] <josephillips> also nic servers are on bonding too
[16:55] <tatertotz> josephillips: that means your issue is less likely any bug but a problem with your specific environment and or configuration
[16:55] <josephillips> tatertotz: do you belive can be a hardware issue?
[16:56] <tatertotz> josephillips: probably not..probably a configuration issue in your environment
[16:56] <tatertotz> josephillips: you should try a different NFS
[16:57] <josephillips> right now no
[16:57] <tatertotz> josephillips: one that is NOT configured identically to the problematic one
[16:57] <josephillips> i have to enable nfs3
[16:57] <josephillips> again
[16:58] <josephillips> we move from nfs3 to nfs4.1 like 1.5 years ago
[17:01] <ophi> leftyfb:  https://imgur.com/a/ahgVjRC
[17:02] <leftyfb> ophi: your ip address is not valid and you still do not have a dns server specified
[17:03] <leftyfb> ophi: I'm going to guess since you were able to ping your gateway earlier that his is not your actual interfaces file and just some file you're editing manually
[17:03] <jurajb0b0> joseph maybe in addition I would recommend the rollback to nfs 4.0 from 4.1 and check.
[17:05] <leftyfb> ophi: you are constantly making typos and I have no way of knowing whether or not those typo's are in your config or your manual attempt to replicate it. when I asked for a photo of your interfaces file, it was because I didn't want to waste either of our time trying to figure out if the typo exists in your actual config or your attempt to rewrite it
[17:07] <coconut> ophi, i do not know much about networking, but your ip address is not a valid ipv4 address.
[17:07] <ophi> leftyb:  It's the actual file, I was adjusting the spacing for readablility and apparently accidently deted the .1 before the .83 (it's vi), I didn't actually save it so it's still working and pinging the gateway
[17:09] <leftyfb> ophi: going forward, please do not edit/adjust anything unless asked to. Especially when asking for a snapshot of the config
[17:10] <leftyfb> ophi: reboot. Then run: ip r l # and take a picture of the output
[17:27] <SWE442> hello
[17:28] <SWE442> all of my screen resolution options disappeared from ubuntu except 1024x768
[17:28] <SWE442> does anyone know how to recover them?
[17:28] <SWE442> All I did was restart
[17:28] <SWE442> xrandr only shows 1024x768
[17:28] <kyle__> SWE442: check to see if your graphics driver is loaded.
[17:29] <SWE442> how do I check that?
[17:29] <kyle__> I'm a cli junky, so I'd do lsmod|grep nvidia, but I think there's a way in the control panel as well.
[17:29] <tmus> I have an external monitor connected to my ThinkPad through USB-C/Thunderbolt, which in turn is powering my ThinkPad - Unless is disable Turbo mode through /sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/no_turbo, the display will disconnect/reconnect randomly but annoyingly often, making the system useless. Is this a known issue or something to report?
[17:29] <SWE442> @kyle__ it is not loaded
[17:30] <SWE442> how do I load it?
[17:30] <kyle__> if it exists, sudo modprobe <blah> would do it.  BUT, if it's not loaded, you probably updated the kernel and the DKMS module didn't rebuild.
[17:31] <SWE442> okay...
[17:31] <SWE442> so?
[17:31] <SWE442> sorry, I'm really new
[17:32] <kyle__> That's ok.  So, A) there is probably a better way of doing this, but B) I never learned it :)
[17:32] <kyle__> uname -a to get your kernel name
[17:33] <kyle__> Linux leela 5.3.0-59-generic #53~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 4 14:58:26 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:33] <kyle__> That's what mine shows.  then sudo apt-get install linux-headers-5.3.0-59-generic
[17:33] <kyle__> Or whatevfver the kernel name is, just with linux-headers- prepended.
[17:36] <SWE442> kyle__ apt get list --installed | grep linux-headers already shows those headers as installed?
[17:36] <kyle__> FOr the exact kernel you've got?
[17:37] <SWE442> yes
[17:37] <SWE442> I tried your line with my kernel (5.4.0-39) and it said is already installed
[17:37] <tatertotz> SWE442: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[17:37] <SWE442> yes
[17:37] <SWE442> I'm in 1024x768
[17:37] <kyle__> Hu.  That was my big idea :/ sorry.  I end up in that situation when I update my kernel, because the headers aren't uato-updated, so I don't get my nvidia module.  Drat.
[17:38] <SWE442> but you were right that my nvidia drivers aren'tloaded
[17:38] <tatertotz> SWE442: in terminal>     journalctl -p 3|nc termbin.com 9999
[17:38] <tatertotz> SWE442: share url/link here...if you do not get a url/link...simply say so
[17:38] <SWE442> https://termbin.com/un2v
[17:40] <SWE442> looks like bad memory?
[17:40] <tatertotz> SWE442: in terminal>     journalctl -p 2|nc termbin.com 9999
[17:40] <tatertotz> SWE442: share url/link here...if you do not get a url/link...simply say so
[17:40] <SWE442> https://termbin.com/jxfi
[17:42] <tatertotz> SWE442: in terminal>     awk -F\' '/menuentry / {print $2}' /boot/grub/grub.cfg|nc termbin.com 9999
[17:42] <tatertotz> SWE442: share url/link here...if you do not get a url/link...simply say so
[17:42] <SWE442> https://termbin.com/vpz1
[17:43] <tatertotz> SWE442: in terminal>     inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[17:43] <ubuntuuser> hey guys
[17:44] <tatertotz> SWE442: if not installed follow the instructions shown to install then follow through
[17:44] <SWE442> https://termbin.com/cbap
[17:44] <ubuntuuser> so pia offers an option to block lan access, I'm running under the assumption my home network is infected, does this mean they can't get me through my lan?
[17:45] <SWE442> "Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.8 driver: fbdev,nouveau unloaded" !!
[17:45] <SWE442> that seems wrong
[17:45] <tatertotz> SWE442: do you have this same issue if you boot the older kernel you have installed??? Ubuntu, with Linux 5.4.0-37
[17:46] <SWE442> I've never tried
[17:46] <SWE442> I don't think it has a menu entry in my boot manager
[17:46] <tatertotz> SWE442: boot older kernel and see if nouveau loads normally
[17:47] <SWE442> can't I just load nouveau here?
[17:47] <SWE442> why would nouveau stop loading
[17:47] <tatertotz> SWE442: of course it does ..didn't you seeit in the link you shared
[17:47] <tatertotz> ?
[17:47] <SWE442> okay, I'll do as you say
[17:47] <SWE442> bbias
[17:47] <tatertotz> SWE442: https://termbin.com/vpz1
[17:47] <pyraindrop> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1870736?comments=all - anyone knows how to fix this?
[17:47] <tatertotz> you clearly have the older kernel i'm speaking of
[17:47] <pyraindrop> Perhaps someone can vote for me for that bug
[17:48] <cxc99> is there a way to change teh default boot kernel in ubuntu thru command line? like grubby?
[17:49] <SWE442> I'm back
[17:49] <SWE442> loaded 37, but same problem
[17:49] <tomreyn> pyraindrop: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes#Desktop
[17:50] <tomreyn> please always make sure you read the release notes before filing bug reports
[17:51] <tatertotz> SWE442: any particular reason you go with nouveau over proprietary driver?
[17:51] <pyraindrop> tomreyn, is there any way you can vote for this - it says only 100 people are effected - I am sure that number is in 1000s
[17:51] <SWE442> @tatertotz no, I thought I was using the proprietary one.  Maybe it got uninstalled somehow?  How do I use that?
[17:52] <tomreyn> pyraindrop: i'm not affected, don't use nvidia graphics cards
[17:52] <SWE442> in fact, I'm pretty sure I even had CUDA installed, but I guess that's broken now
[17:52] <tatertotz> SWE442: in terminal>     ubuntu-drivers devices|nc termbin.com 9999
[17:53] <SWE442> nothing happened???
[17:53] <tomreyn> SWE442: or, for the GUI: software-properties-gtk --open-tab=4
[17:54] <pyraindrop> tomreyn, is there a work around till this bug is fixed?
[17:54] <tatertotz> SWE442: in terminal>     ubuntu-drivers list
[17:54] <tomreyn> pyraindrop: if there is, then it's likley discussed in those linked bug reports.
[17:54] <tatertotz> SWE442: you don't see any info when you run that?
[17:55] <SWE442> I see info,b ut for some weird reason when I pipe to termbin, I don't get a link back
[17:55] <SWE442> I don't understand
[17:55] <tatertotz> SWE442: i understand
[17:55] <ophi> leftyfb:  https://imgur.com/a/vYk8ETx
[17:55] <ophi> leftyfb:  some progress though still no name resolution
[17:55] <tatertotz> SWE442: in terminal>     ubuntu-drivers devices|tee ~/nip.pir
[17:56] <SWE442> https://termbin.com/ys82
[17:56] <SWE442> I catted it to a file and then catted that file to termbin
[17:56] <tatertotz> SWE442: cool
[17:56] <tatertotz> SWE442: thinking on your feet..thats good
[17:57] <tatertotz> SWE442: in terminal>      apt list --installed|grep nvid
[17:57] <tatertotz> SWE442: show a termbin of the output
[17:57] <leftyfb> ophi: you didn't do what I asked
[17:58] <SWE442> https://termbin.com/1d4u
[18:00] <tatertotz> SWE442: you have the nvidia 440 installed but it failed to load
[18:00] <ophi> leftyfb:  what's missing?  I restarted, ran the ip route command, took photo.  (browser crashed, on different computer, may have missed something)
[18:00] <SWE442> tatertotz I see, thanks
[18:00] <SWE442> tatertotz how do I fix it?
[18:00] <leftyfb> ophi: the photo is not the output of the ip command
[18:01] <tatertotz> SWE442: i suggest a doing a sos report then attempting to reinstall it
[18:01] <tatertotz> SWE442: in terminal>    sudo apt install sosreport
[18:02] <ophi> leftyfb:   ip r l is  at the top, followed by the interfaces followed by resolv.conf
[18:02] <leftyfb> ophi: you linked to https://imgur.com/a/vYk8ETx  that is only a vi edit of an interfaces file
[18:03] <ophi> leftyfb:  if it's cut off, it returned 192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0 onlink
[18:03] <SWE442> tatertotz and then?
[18:04] <ophi> leftyfb:  hang on, I see the problem with the photo...
[18:09] <kyle__> Don't you also need auto eth0 in that leftyfb?
[18:09] <leftyfb> kyle__: 1 step at a time
[18:10] <leftyfb> kyle__: but yes
[18:10] <kyle__> If pthreads taught me anything, it's start everything at once, then weep when trying to debug.
[18:10] <kyle__> Wait....
[18:11] <sarnold> :)
[18:11] <SWE442> tatertotz I see what happened now
[18:11] <SWE442> nvidia just released a new driver
[18:11] <SWE442> it probably tried to auto-update
[18:11] <SWE442> and ruined everything
[18:13] <Bashing-om> SWE442: https://9to5linux.com/linux-kernel-and-nvidia-vulnerabilities-patched-in-ubuntu-20-04-lts-19-10-and-18-04-lts affects you ?
[18:13] <SWE442> Bashing-om not anymore, since my system tried to automatically update to 440 and now won't load the nvidia drivers!
[18:14] <SWE442> I guess I should try to install the 450 drivers
[18:14] <SWE442> how do I do that?
[18:15] <Bashing-om> SWE442: To many cooks spoil the brew - I will continue to watch before I make any additional recomendations.
[18:15] <SWE442> Bashing-om okay thanks I'll try to install 450 while I wait for tatertotz
[18:16] <Bashing-om> SWE442: There is a procedure to do a re-install of the driver. take care here !
[18:16] <SWE442> where is the procedure? I can't seem to download them from nvidia's page
[18:17] <Bashing-om> SWE442: Nvidia advises NOT to do that ! "Note that many Linux distributions provide their own packages of the NVIDIA Linux Graphics Driver in the distribution's native package management format. This may interact better with the rest of your distribution's framework, and you may want to use this rather than NVIDIA's official package.".
[18:18] <SWE442> Bashing-om OK, how do I do that?
[18:18] <Bashing-om> SWE442: OK - I take over this. 1st, is this a EFI system ?
[18:18] <SWE442> Bashing-om UEFI?
[18:19] <Bashing-om> SWE442: Yeah - UEFI a factor here ?
[18:19] <SWE442> it is a uefi system
[18:19] <SWE442> I just want to reload the graphics drivers
[18:19] <SWE442> they seem to be installed
[18:19] <SWE442> or maybe we should just purge al of the nvidia drivers and reload them
[18:19] <SWE442> reinstall and reload tehm
[18:20] <sarnold> apt install has a --reinstall command line option you can use if you've accidentally overwritten or deleted files
[18:21] <Bashing-om> SWE442: well we can look at what is installed ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' - might be best just to purge and have the system install what it thinks best.
[18:21] <kyle__> Would dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-dkms-450 work?
[18:21] <SWE442> https://termbin.com/yxtq
[18:21] <kyle__> Assuming 450 was installed...
[18:22] <SWE442> kyle__ looks like 440 was installed, but they just released 450 on the same day as 440
[18:22] <SWE442> so maybe I should shoot for 450
[18:22] <SWE442> maybe they fixed some bugs
[18:22] <SWE442> that day being 2 days ago lol
[18:22] <kyle__> I have 450 on mine with no issues, but it's also 18.04, not 20.04.
[18:22] <ophi> leftyfb: https://imgur.com/a/QS4O46c
[18:23] <leftyfb> ophi: same picture
[18:23] <SWE442> kyle__ yeah maybe I was crazy to upgrade so soon
[18:23] <leftyfb> ophi: it's the same exact picture uploaded twice
[18:24] <SWE442> let's install 450
[18:24] <SWE442> how do I do that
[18:24] <SWE442> your dpkg thing looks like it will work
[18:25] <Bashing-om> SWE442: "rc  linux-modules" some modules have been removed :( .. still say might be best just to purge - disable secure boot - have the system install what it thinks best and see then what you have.
[18:25] <tatertotz> SWE442: i'm back ...sorry had to take care of a ticket
[18:25] <SWE442> tatertotz great!
[18:25] <tatertotz> SWE442: did you reinstall nvidia and all is well now?
[18:25] <SWE442> I figured out that nvidia released new drivers 2 days ago
[18:25] <kyle__> tatertotz: https://www.cipher-it.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/ITCrow.jpg
[18:26] <SWE442> I'm pretty sure my system automatically upgraded to 440 (but 450 was quickly released) and that broke everything
[18:26] <SWE442> so now I know the cause
[18:26] <SWE442> I want to install 450
[18:26] <tatertotz> kyle__: is that meant for me or someone else
[18:26] <kyle__> You said you had to take care of a ticket.  I fgured it was a support ticket :)
[18:27] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-driver-450 focal
[18:27] <tatertotz> kyle__: lol oh ...yes it was
[18:27] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-driver-440 focal
[18:28] <tatertotz> SWE442: mod/op says that isn't available in the repos from what i gather
[18:28] <SWE442> !info nvidia-driver-450 focal
[18:28] <SWE442> I see
[18:28] <SWE442> that's annoying
[18:29] <SWE442> I will just do the dpkg re thing for 440
[18:29] <SWE442> dpkg reconfigure
[18:29] <tatertotz> SWE442: I'd like to get a sos and then you attempt to purge and reinstall 440...but sounds like you're already on an action plan
[18:29] <kyle__> root@leela:~# apt-cache madison nvidia-driver-450
[18:29] <kyle__> nvidia-driver-450 | 450.36.06-0ubuntu1 | http://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/repos/ubuntu1804/x86_64  Packages
[18:30] <SWE442> how do do that? tatertoz
[18:30] <SWE442> I installed sos
[18:30] <SWE442> but I don't know how to use it
[18:30] <V178> SWE442: I would purge and reinstall as well
[18:30] <tatertotz> SWE442: in terminal>    sudo sosreport
[18:30] <kyle__> I think mine is from the from the nvidia cuda repo
[18:31] <SWE442> sos is running
[18:31] <tatertotz> SWE442: firstname=SW   lastname=E442
[18:31] <kyle__> On an unrelated note, why is apt-cache madison called madison?
[18:31] <Bashing-om> SWE442: Were me - sudo apt purge nvidia*. reboot to bios and disable secure boot, boot the install and from terminal run ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall '.
[18:31] <SWE442> tatertotz I put nothing for case id, is that okay?
[18:31] <tatertotz> SWE442: that's fine
[18:32] <SWE442> Bashing-om I'm worried because I spent a lot of time installing CUDA and CUDnn and those would probably go too?
[18:32] <SWE442> tatertoz ok, my sos has been saved in a tar gz
[18:32] <SWE442> not sure what to do with it?
[18:33] <tatertotz> SWE442: in terminal>    sudo chown 1000 /tmp/sos*
[18:33] <Bashing-om> SWE442: Yep cuda too will in all likely hood be gone :( no experience here with cuda. I may be of little further help.
[18:33] <tatertotz> SWE442: you won't see anything just confirm when you've completed each step
[18:33] <SWE442> tatertoz done
[18:33] <SWE442> now?
[18:34] <tatertotz> SWE442: in terminal>    sudo mv /tmp/sos* ~/
[18:34] <SWE442> done
[18:34] <tatertotz> SWE442: go to https://filebin.net and look in your home folder and upload ALL sos files and then share url/link here
[18:35] <SWE442> done
[18:35] <SWE442> I guess I'm trusting that this sos report isn't some kind of back door I've just installed
[18:35] <SWE442> that would be very sneaky lol
[18:36] <SWE442> https://filebin.net/g8p8scwxq2h3p5mp
[18:37] <tatertotz> SWE442: no..it's well documented and commonly used
[18:37] <tatertotz> SWE442: it expedites support
[18:37] <SWE442> ok ok :)
[18:38] <ophi> leftyfb:  https://imgur.com/a/8GPtDJm
[18:39] <tatertotz> SWE442: did you already reinstall nvidia?
[18:39] <SWE442> tatertotz no, I dont know how
[18:39] <SWE442> It looks like it's already installed
[18:39] <tatertotz> SWE442: i'd purge it
[18:39] <SWE442> I think it got reinstalled, but not reactivated
[18:39] <SWE442> okay, how do I do that?
[18:39] <leftyfb> ophi: how did you start networking when the server booted?
[18:39] <tatertotz> SWE442: in terminal>   sudo apt purge nvidia*
[18:40] <SWE442> no matches found
[18:40] <SWE442> what?
[18:40] <SWE442> Unable to locate packages
[18:40] <SWE442> (I'm using zsh so I had to quote "nvidia*")
[18:40] <SWE442> (I guess to prevent expansion)
[18:41] <Bashing-om> SWE442: tatertotz : cuda - see the output of ' apt show nvidia-modprobe '; is that module installed ?
[18:41] <SWE442> Bashing-om yes
[18:41] <tatertotz> Bashing-om: good catch
[18:41] <SWE442> 440.44-1
[18:42] <tatertotz> SWE442: brb have another ticket i have to attend to
[18:43] <skyliner_369> IDK what's with youtube... it just... has a low framerate fullscreen now
[18:43] <Bashing-om> tatertotz: SWE442 :: see the posted https://termbin.com/yxtq where modules have been removed :(
[18:43] <SWE442> Bashing-om I'm purging 440 now
[18:44] <SWE442> okay, now how do I reinstall 440
[18:44] <SWE442> sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[18:44] <skyliner_369> in not full screen it's refresh matched but it's like 10 FPS fullscreen.
[18:44] <SWE442> hope this works lol
[18:45] <ophi> leftyfb:  system managed
[18:45] <SWE442> luckily nvidia only releases drivers a couple times a year lol
[18:45] <Bashing-om> SWE442: ^ as stated above - next is to disable secure boot - as the driver is 3rd party and the firmware does it job to block the install.
[18:45] <SWE442> I think they break my system every time
[18:45] <leftyfb> ophi: as pointed about above, you don't have "auto eth0" in your interfaces file. That will prevent the interface from coming up with your config.
[18:46] <SWE442> Bashing-om shoot, I just install 440 again, should I purge it and reboot?  I don't know how to disable secure boot and this scares me
[18:47] <Bashing-om> SWE442: Secure boot is in the firmware. Each manufacturer does it differently as there is no standard for UEFI to this time.
[18:48] <leftyfb> ophi: also, as I've mentioned before, you should be adding the dns-nameserver entry to your interfaces file. Not editing resolv.conf manually. Not for a perm solution anyway
[18:48] <SWE442> Bashing-om so you want me to disable secure boot in my BIOS and reboot to linux, install the driver, reboot to my BIOS disable secure boot
[18:49] <SWE442> I mean reenable secure boot
[18:49] <SWE442> ??
[18:49] <Bashing-om> SWE442: Once the driver is installed yep then you can re-enable secure boot, That nvidia driver from the repo is "trusted" :D
[18:50] <SWE442> okay, I'm rebooting into BIOS to disable secure boot, then I will install the nvidia drivers
[18:50] <SWE442> then I will reboot into bios to enable secure boot
[18:50] <SWE442> do I not need to do dpkg reconfigure?
[18:51] <Bashing-om> SWE442: Sounds like a plan to me :P
[18:51] <tatertotz> SWE442: back
[18:52] <SWE442> tatertotz I just purged my drivers
[18:52] <SWE442> okay, I'm rebooting into BIOS to disable secure boot, then I will install the nvidia driversthen I will reboot into bios to enable secure bootdo I not need to do dpkg reconfigure?
[18:52] <tatertotz> SWE442: you probably want to leave secureboot OFF
[18:52] <Bashing-om> SWE442: No, dpkg reconfigure should not be required.
[18:53] <SWE442> @tatertotz okay
[18:53] <SWE442> rebooting now to do that
[18:54] <Bashing-om> sweSystem is smart - have it choose the driver (440 I bet)  ' sudo apt update; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall '
[18:57] <ophi> leftyfb:  Added auto eth0 at the top of the eth0 section and added dns-nameservers 192.168.1.1 to the bottom and restarted, can still ping gateway though still no name resolution
[18:58] <ophi> leftyfb:  should I remove the entry in resolv.conf or put back the defauit resolv.conf ?
[18:58] <leftyfb> ophi: the "auto eth0" is a requirement for your network to start up. How were you starting your interface before?
[18:59] <tatertotz> ah i see what happend
[18:59] <tatertotz> tisk tisk tisk
[19:00] <ophi> leftyfb: system managed.  it's started, It would not ping if not.  Mostly restarting the server, but tried service network restart a couple times this morning but stopped when I saw the different results from ip r
[19:02] <leftyfb> ophi: "ip -4 a show eth0"
[19:02] <leftyfb> ophi: what ip address shows there?
[19:02] <SWE442> tatertotz I rebooted, but I wasn't able to disable secure boot
[19:02] <SWE442> it was greyed out and enabled
[19:02] <leftyfb> ophi: I question whether or not it's even utilizing your interfaces file
[19:02] <SWE442> and I'm very afraid to mess with my bios after many wasted days
[19:02] <tatertotz> SWE442: i was able to find what caused your problems
[19:03] <SWE442> with bios problems
[19:03] <SWE442> tatertotz oh yeah what's that?
[19:03] <tatertotz> SWE442: take a look https://termbin.com/f0ts
[19:03] <SWE442> I see
[19:03] <SWE442> okay, well that's all purged now
[19:03] <tatertotz> SWE442: API mismatch
[19:03] <SWE442> so I can just reinstall and we should be good?
[19:03] <SWE442> all the nvidia drivers are purged afaik
[19:03] <ophi> leftyfb:  it is.  I switched from DHCP to static and it switched.
[19:04] <tatertotz> SWE442: try reinstalling them
[19:04] <tatertotz> SWE442: try reinstalling it
[19:05] <tatertotz> SWE442: i'm seeing that you had
[19:05] <tatertotz> SWE442: this kernel module has the version 440.64.
[19:05] <leftyfb> ophi: which DNS server is your openSUSE machine using?
[19:05] <tatertotz> SWE442: then somehow a newer version shows up in the environment
[19:06] <SWE442> tatertotz weird
[19:06] <tatertotz> SWE442: resulting in a API mismatch
[19:06] <SWE442> okay nvidia reinstalled
[19:06] <SWE442> do I need to do anything to enable or just reset?
[19:06] <tatertotz> SWE442: CTRL+ALT+Backspace OR reboot
[19:07] <SWE442> c-a-bs doesn't do anything?
[19:07] <tatertotz> reboot
[19:08] <tatertotz> I'll try and hunt down where and how this 440.100 got into your environment
[19:09] <Bashing-om> sweWhat machine is this ? "secure boot greyed out" - as the driver will not complete to install unless secure boot is disabled - I tell you again.
[19:11] <ophi> leftyfb:  192.168.1.83 AND an IPv6 address.  disable ipv6?
[19:11] <SWE442> tatertotz it worked!  thanks a lot everyone kyle__ Bashing-om
[19:11] <tatertotz> SWE442: let's see this
[19:11] <SWE442> tatertotz see what?
[19:11] <tatertotz> SWE442: in terminal>    inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[19:12] <leftyfb> ophi: wait, your opensuse is using .83 as it's nameserver?
[19:12] <tatertotz> SWE442: wanna give you a final look over
[19:12] <SWE442> inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[19:12] <SWE442> https://termbin.com/2as08
[19:12] <Bashing-om> SWE442: For piece of mind ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ' completes with no errors ?
[19:13] <tatertotz> SWE442: looks good ...you're using NVIDIA 440.100
[19:13] <SWE442> yup
[19:13] <SWE442> Bashing-om yup
[19:13] <SWE442> thanks everyone
[19:13] <SWE442> phew
[19:13] <SWE442> now I know what to do when they release 450 for my system
[19:13] <tatertotz> SWE442: that's probably where the API mismatch came from
[19:14] <SWE442> yeah
[19:14] <tatertotz> SWE442: have a nice day
[19:14] <leftyfb> ophi: according to your photos, .83 is the ip address of your Ubuntu server. Why did you respond with "192.168.1.83 AND an IPv6 address.  disable ipv6?" when I asked "which DNS server is your openSUSE machine using?"
[19:23] <SWE442> tatertotz thank you you too
[19:24] <ophi> leftyfb:  SUSE poitnint to 192.168.1.1
[19:24] <leftyfb> there's something going on that either isn't being mentioned or you are unaware of. If you have a proper ip address, can ping your gateway and have a DNS server specified, then there's no reason it shouldn't work. Since the security policy here seems a bit excessive, it's possible they limit clients by MAC or hostname or something. You should try using a tool like dig or host or nslookup with strace to see where it might be breaking down
[19:24] <ophi> leftyfb:  We've seen some ipv6 issues where disabling it on Windows & Linux systems resolves odd networking issues, I will try that and check back with you Monday.
[19:25] <leftyfb> ophi: that is not going to help
[19:26] <flying_sausages> Hey everyone, I'm curious how packaging for ubuntu works. What would need to happen to update jdupes on focal sources to 1.17.0? I'm looking at this specifically https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jdupes/1.14.0-2
[19:26] <flying_sausages> i.e. is there anything I can do to make 1.17 available on focal through Ubuntu sources
[19:27] <flying_sausages> If i understand correctly that package is currently coming in from Debian?
[19:27] <sarnold> flying_sausages: you'd use apt-get source jdupes to download the source package; download the tarball from upstream, place it next to the old tarball downloaded by apt-get source; change the version number in debian/changelog -- then rebuild it via sbuild or other building tools -- fix errors as necessary
[19:28] <flying_sausages> I see, thanks for the info
[19:28] <flying_sausages> is there a convenient way to see what changes had to be applied for that package?
[19:29] <flying_sausages> i.e. difference between original source and what went into the repo
[19:30] <sarnold> flying_sausages: it depends on the package; the what-patch program from devscripts package can tell you what type of patch system is in use with the package
[19:30] <sarnold> flying_sausages: some packages use quilt and debian/patches/ directory -- others just change the source directly (terrifying but very rare)
[19:31] <ophi> leftyfb:  you may well be right, but it's happened here many times, assuming it's a router issue of some kind.
[19:32] <leftyfb> ophi: you would do well to enable outbound ICMP. You're only limiting yourself and not adding any security
[19:35] <ses1984> i'm trying to run steam, and i see `SteamUpdateUI: An X Error occurred` and then it just hangs. was working a few days ago. i've been using nvidia proprietary drivers and haven't changed anything, anything i should try?
[19:37] <flying_sausages> What would be the appropriate URL to set as "upstream project" for jdupes? the page on debian.packages or the github repo?
[19:37] <tatertotz> ses1984: what changes have occurred since it was last working?...including but not limited to updates
[19:38] <sarnold> flying_sausages: probably github repo
[19:38] <flying_sausages> within the context of the launchpad's "Upstream connections"
[19:40] <ses1984> tatertotz: i have no idea, maybe auto updates, i didn't intentionally change anything
[19:41] <ses1984> i get "X Error of failed request: BadValue..." when trying to run glxinfo http://dpaste.com/1QMD0K2
[19:42] <tatertotz> ses1984: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[19:42] <ses1984> yeah
[19:42] <tatertotz> ses1984: in terminal>      inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[19:42] <tatertotz> ses1984: follow instructions to install if not installed and follow through
[19:42] <tatertotz> ses1984: share url/link here...if you do not get a url/link..simply say so
[19:44] <ses1984> https://termbin.com/qltv
[19:45] <flying_sausages> sarnold, can you check if I messed something up if you'd be so kind? https://launchpad.net/jdupes/trunk I don't want to introduce gibberish into the system
[19:45] <tatertotz> ses1984: something is not right with your direct rendering status
[19:45] <flying_sausages> or maybe this link is more appropriate https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/groovy/+source/jdupes
[19:45] <ses1984> this part right? "OpenGL: renderer: N/A version: N/A Direct Render: N/A
[19:46] <tatertotz> ses1984: correct....that is abnormal
[19:47] <sarnold> flying_sausages: hmm, are you intending to *be* the jdupes project on launchpad?
[19:48] <flying_sausages> definitely not for the time being
[19:48] <flying_sausages> I was assuming i was simply recording that the code is being tracked on github and nothing other than that
[19:48] <sarnold> flying_sausages: ah, okay :)
[19:48] <flying_sausages> but I can't find any reference to the github now
[19:49] <tatertotz> ses1984: do you have a systemback/timeshift backup of your system?
[19:49] <sarnold> don't worry too much about the launchpad view of the jdupes project, that's not really part of the path to getting a newer version built for your system
[19:50] <tatertotz> ses1984: are you even using any of those system restore type of functionality
[19:50] <flying_sausages> I mean, I was assuming that making this sort of info more "linked" could lead people to find it wasier
[19:50] <flying_sausages> and *cough* help someone else do it for me *cough*
[19:51] <flying_sausages> the project itself is making releases with a single static binary for amd64 so I'm wondering how difficult would it be to make that into a package for ubuntu by making the deb package
[19:52] <flying_sausages> maybe I could somehow automate creating the package and uploading it to a PPA
[19:52] <flying_sausages> rather than maintaining it or something
[19:53] <sarnold> flying_sausages: if you want to go down that route, then packaging a snap would probably be faster and easier
[19:54] <flying_sausages> I mean, it's just a static binary that needs to be copied to /usr/bin/local
[19:55] <flying_sausages> I'm not too familiar with either of the processes but I'm eager to learn so I'll see if I can find my way around docs online
[19:56] <flying_sausages> what would you say the advantages would be? can I make it so that I define a snap and let it download and version itself based off the github releases?
[19:58] <sarnold> flying_sausages: yeah; there's a few different 'kinds' of building -- you can fully automate the thing https://snapcraft.io/build  -- but I'm not sure how well that works if you don't 'own' the repository in question. you could probably do it with a  fork easily enough..
[19:58] <sarnold> flying_sausages: but as a 'simple consumer' of upstream releases you could put together a snapcraft.yaml file to describe how to build it: https://snapcraft.io/#c
[19:58] <flying_sausages> I could for it and set github automation so that it force-rebases on top of the upstream
[19:59] <sarnold> this second approach would be less automated but perhaps less work to get going initially..
[19:59] <flying_sausages> Ideally, I'd set something up once that would just update the snap on its own
[19:59] <flying_sausages> I've got a dedicated box I could task with it
[20:00] <flying_sausages> but if it could bypass that and just build itself from source on the destination machine I think that would be optimal
[20:01] <flying_sausages> i.e. define the repo, and let it rebuild itself when the upstream pushes a new commit to master
[20:01] <flying_sausages> or a new tag is pushed
[20:01] <flying_sausages> funny how far a linux user can go when they're missing one option because the repo version is out of date by a couple months ha
[20:02] <sarnold> flying_sausages: yeah that kind of thing ought to be doable, especially if you've got a way to update a fork without interaction :)
[20:02] <sarnold> lol yeah
[20:03] <flying_sausages> I suppose this might be better to do in #snapcraft?
[20:03] <sarnold> flying_sausages: yes, probably :) It's been years since I've built a snap myself, they do it all the time :) hehe
[20:05] <Kamilion> i've had consistant problems with snaps; for a single static binary, a .deb is far better to have out on the ubuntu package archive mirrors than a snap you can only get from canonical servers.
[20:07] <flying_sausages> Yeah I'm also not sure a snap would be the right thing seeing as updates might break some things unintentionally
[20:07] <flying_sausages> so I'd be more comfortable with updates being a manual thing
[20:08] <Kamilion> plus snap abuses the loopback devices
[20:08] <sarnold> when you control the snap you can run the stable branch on your machines and only push from edge to stable after you test it
[20:08] <flying_sausages> furthermore this thing is a duplicate finder so if I could remove any overhead the better
[20:08] <Kamilion> i can't seem to increase past 256 loop devices :/
[20:12] <flying_sausages> sarnold, I'd rather not "test" anything hahaha
[20:13] <ubuntuuser> hi I can't seem to get my ubuntu to connect to wifi, would anyone have any idea why?
[20:13] <flying_sausages> Maybe all I have to do is this https://github.com/jbruchon/jdupes/issues/136
[20:13] <sarnold> flying_sausages: worth a shot :)
[20:14] <flying_sausages> ubuntuuser, did you check your Network manager logs?
[20:14] <ubuntuuser> command?
[20:14] <flying_sausages> journalctl -u NetworkManager
[20:14] <ubuntuuser> hold on, and thank you
[20:15] <flying_sausages> you can netcat them to termbin if you'd like to paste them here
[20:15] <Kamilion> or grab the 'pastie' package, which should submit to paste.ubuntu.com (if I recall correctly)
[20:15] <flying_sausages> i.e. `journalctl -u NetworkManager | nc termbin.com 9999`
  [1593035317.9082] dns-sd-resolved[3f8ef6019697f017]: send-updates failed to update systemd-resolved: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.resolve1.NoSuchLin
[20:15] <flying_sausages> oh nice didn't know that
[20:16] <flying_sausages> is something similar also in Debian Kamilion?
[20:16] <ubuntuuser> can i dm them to you? my username for the laptop is my real name
[20:16] <flying_sausages> please don't ha
[20:16] <flying_sausages> you can do this though
[20:17] <Kamilion> flying_sausages: yeah, think debian has something similar. and i just looked for the pastie package and couldn't find it
[20:17] <flying_sausages> `journalctl -u NetworkManager | sed 's/username/anon/g'`
[20:17] <flying_sausages> check if that anonymises it enough
[20:18] <flying_sausages> sorry that's `sed -e ...`
[20:19] <ubuntuuser> nope
[20:19] <ubuntuuser> o
[20:19] <Kamilion> "pastebinit", in ubuntu and debian. (default submission target is different though)
[20:20] <flying_sausages> that's fine, been looking for something I could use in another toolset that would work
[20:20] <Kamilion> https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/pastebinit
[20:20] <Kamilion> reliant on python3
[20:20] <flying_sausages> I wonder if it allows the user to delete the pastes if they want to
[20:20] <Kamilion> depends on which service is being submitted to
[20:20] <ubuntuuser> not showing logs now
[20:20] <ubuntuuser> just a >
[20:21] <Kamilion> i can remove my paste.ubuntu.com entries, because I'm logged in with launchpad and have a cookie set with my authentication tokens
[20:21] <ubuntuuser> got it
[20:21] <ubuntuuser> nope name still there
[20:21] <Kamilion> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Pastebinit
[20:22] <matsaman> flying_sausages: yet another: http://ix.io/
[20:22] <Kamilion> ubuntuuser: alter "username" in that command to reflect your actual username.
[20:22] <flying_sausages> ubuntuuser, in my case "journalctl -u NetworkManager | sed -e 's/sausage/anon/g'" works for example
[20:23] <Kamilion> `journalctl -u NetworkManager | sed -e 's/kamilion/anon/g'`   <-- example
[20:23] <ubuntuuser> so im myname@myname
[20:23] <flying_sausages> !man sed
[20:23] <flying_sausages> .man sed
[20:23] <Kamilion> you set the hostname to the same? Heh.
[20:23] <flying_sausages> wasn't there a man linky thing?
[20:23] <Kamilion> ubottu: man sed
[20:24] <sorcerer> i just added a 3rd ubuntu computer on my desk
[20:24] <ubuntuuser> well doomed to my phones internet for 5eva I guess, no usual fixes?
[20:24] <Kamilion> trying to use wifi hotspot from your phone?
[20:24] <ubuntuuser> no im tethered
[20:25] <Kamilion> k, just making sure, i'm easily confused
[20:25] <matsaman> your computer isn't connecting to the internet?
[20:25] <ubuntuuser> to wifi
[20:25] <flying_sausages> I mean, do you get any specific error?
[20:25] <flying_sausages> I assumed you'd say so if you got one so I assumed you didn't get one
[20:25] <ubuntuuser> just doesn't connect
[20:26] <flying_sausages> is it enterprise or something?
[20:26] <Kamilion> what sort of AP is your target, out of curiosity?
[20:26] <ubuntuuser> what is enterprise?
[20:26] <flying_sausages> 802.11X
[20:26] <Kamilion> WPA2 enterptise auth
[20:26] <Kamilion> vs presharedkey
[20:26] <ubuntuuser> my computer is lenovo if that helps
[20:26] <flying_sausages> hah not exactly
[20:26] <Kamilion> know the brand of the thing on the other end?
[20:26] <flying_sausages> then again, are you sure you have the right drivers for your wifi chip
[20:27] <ubuntuuser> what does AP mean?
[20:27] <Kamilion> TP-link, cisco, asus, meraki, ubiquity, etc?
[20:27] <tatertotz> no..he's not enterprise anything
[20:27] <ubuntuuser> home wifi
[20:27] <Kamilion> Access Point -- the wifi 'server'
[20:27] <Kamilion> your lenovo is the wifi client
[20:27] <ubuntuuser> ok
[20:27] <ubuntuuser> its verizon?
[20:28] <Kamilion> some brands of wifi hosts (AP / router / modem, whatever someone decides to call it)
[20:28] <Kamilion> are really crap. (like netgears. UGH!)
[20:28] <ubuntuuser> you want me to look at the wifi box?
[20:28] <Kamilion> yeah, be helpful to know what it is you are failing to connect to.
[20:28] <ubuntuuser> what am i looking for?
[20:29] <Kamilion> who manufactured it
[20:29] <Kamilion> any kinda corporate logo
[20:29] <Kamilion> or sticker with the model name and serial number and that sort of info (I don't need the serial number, but the model information is usually nearby it)
[20:30] <ubuntuuser> says verizon
[20:30] <ubuntuuser> from verizon
[20:30] <Kamilion> home 4G modem? big thing, or pocket-sized thing?
[20:31] <Kamilion> (the little pocket sized things call themselves "jetpacks" I think)
[20:31] <tatertotz> ubuntuuser: since your system has PIN/personal information as the username AND hostname, resulting in inability to share logs, it'll be difficult if not impossible for you to get aid
[20:31] <ubuntuuser> 5g
[20:32] <ubuntuuser> bigger than my pocket
[20:32] <Kamilion> https://ss7.vzw.com/is/image/VerizonWireless/Verizon4GLTERouter?$device-lg$&wid=256&hei=520
[20:32] <flying_sausages> if there's a version number on the back that would be the first step
[20:32] <Kamilion> Something like this?
[20:32] <tatertotz> ubuntuuser: you could temporarily change hostname and make a new user name, reboot and then share logs
[20:32] <flying_sausages> Checking manuals online also helps
[20:32] <ubuntuuser> minus the bottom part Kamilion
[20:33] <Kamilion> cool. Have you tried pressing the WPS button on the front?
[20:33] <flying_sausages> Did you manage to get it to work on some other system
[20:33] <ubuntuuser> I can now
[20:33] <ubuntuuser> connect and press the button?
[20:33] <Kamilion> press then button and then try to connect
[20:34] <Kamilion> also, often these units have a limitation of something like 5 devices that may be connected at once. If you've exceeded that, you'll have to disconnect one or more devices (my dad's smart TV for example)
[20:35] <ubuntuuser> ok just disconnected my phone
[20:35] <Kamilion> but that's probably not the issue. Betcha that thing is just picky about how clients may join (WPS or PSK)
[20:35] <ubuntuuser> am I not wpa?
[20:35] <flying_sausages> I would check how your phone is connected and see if you can replicate those settings. How did you connect your phone to it? using some password?
[20:36] <Kamilion> WPA2 is the main mode; but it has several authentication modes too
[20:36] <flying_sausages> (except the IPs of course)
[20:36] <ubuntuuser> my phone is just android
[20:36] <ubuntuuser> put in the password.....
[20:36] <Kamilion> PSK, preshared key, WPS, Wired protected setup, and Enterprise (a username is ALSO required with this mode)
[20:36] <flying_sausages> and you've had success with connecting to other networks using the laptop, correct?
[20:36] <Kamilion> yeah, you're using PSK then
[20:36] <ubuntuuser> no
[20:37] <ubuntuuser> can't connect to my phone's wifi hot spot either
[20:37] <Kamilion> well, if you have a lot of issues, grab a network cable
[20:37] <Kamilion> https://ss71.vzw.com/is/image/VerizonWireless/internet-image-pdp-4132016-4?&scl=2
[20:37] <Kamilion> plug into one of the three ports on the unit
[20:37] <Kamilion> and run apt package upgrades
[20:37] <ubuntuuser> im already tethered just want wifi
[20:37] <flying_sausages> Kamilion, > <ubuntuuser> can't connect to my phone's wifi hot spot either
[20:37] <Kamilion> yeah, his box exposes ethernet though.
[20:37] <flying_sausages> sounds like it won't be the problem of the profile
[20:37] <flying_sausages> but of the laptop itself
[20:38] <ubuntuuser> invalid operation?
[20:38] <Kamilion> make sure you've gotten all the package updates for ubuntu on the laptop, including networkmanager, linux-firmware, and wpa-supplicant
[20:38] <ubuntuuser> wait
[20:38] <Kamilion> then try wifi again?
[20:38] <flying_sausages> if you can, get onto ethernet or some other means and run an update and upgrade essentially
[20:39] <flying_sausages> If you go into "Update manager" there should also be something about Drivers, so check if you have some alternatives there
[20:39] <ubuntuuser> did that already
[20:39] <Kamilion> BTW. that verizon-branded unit is made by "novatel", and is a model "T114" or "T1114v"
[20:40] <Kamilion> they're also known as "mifi" units while the little pocket sized ones are "jetpack". That should help you find support elsewhere too, since it looks like we suck at it :D
[20:41] <Kamilion> but we're just random ubuntu users like you
[20:41] <flying_sausages> I mean, ideally there would be logs hahaha
[20:42] <flying_sausages> You can also just store the logs into a file, open them in a text editor, do find and replace and then upload them to pastebin or something ubuntuuser
[20:42] <flying_sausages> you can store files using `whatevercmd > ~/file.txt`
[20:43] <flying_sausages> which would put it in your homedir
[20:46] <ubuntuuser> sorry missed a few things
[20:46] <ubuntuuser> I can't find my phone on wifi
[20:47] <ubuntuuser> weird
[20:48] <ubuntuuser> bye ubuntuuser2!
[20:49] <ubuntuuser> is there a good channel for ethical hacking?
[20:49] <matsaman> ubuntuuser: what is ethical hacking?
[20:49] <ubuntuuser> like hacking, but for ethical purposes
[20:49] <matsaman> like breaking the law?
[20:49] <ubuntuuser> no
[20:50] <matsaman> /msg alis list *hack*
[20:50] <matsaman> /msg alis list *code*
[20:50] <flying_sausages> how do you escape the / at the beginning of a message?
[20:50] <matsaman> flying_sausages: depends on your client
[20:51] <flying_sausages> hexchat?
[20:51] <ubuntuuser> /
[20:51] <ubuntuuser> that?
[20:51] <ubuntuuser> type //
[20:52] <flying_sausages> /hmm
[20:52] <matsaman> yeah for hexchat it's '//foo'
[20:52] <matsaman> for irssi you can do '/ /foo'
[20:52] <matsaman> and there is a command you can use to echo out, also
[20:52] <matsaman> for more complicated things
[20:52] <matsaman> probably /echo or /print or something
[20:53] <matsaman> gotta be careful with those, usually prudent to end with | head -1 or | tail -1
[20:53] <matsaman> if it's command output
[20:55] <ubuntuuser> no one uses irssi
[20:55] <ubuntuuser> and for good reason
[20:55] <ubuntuuser> you have awoken anger in me, i hate irssi
[20:55] <ubuntuuser> so much
[20:56] <matsaman> it's good to have a non-GUI IRC client even if you use HexChat
[20:56] <ubuntuuser> no
[20:56] <matsaman> but over the years I finally dropped HexChat, because readline shortcuts
[20:56] <matsaman> make textual communication & utilization so much faster
[20:57] <ubuntuuser> hey how much would it cost to ddos discord for like a year?
[20:57] <ubuntuuser> i hate discord
[21:00] <matsaman> for a year?
[21:00] <matsaman> you'd have to be a lot smarter than almost everyone in the world
[21:00] <matsaman> the actual cost in currency is negligible
[21:31] <kotaro> ubuntu is the best
[21:44] <skyliner_369> So... IDK what it is but it feels like as time goes on, my GPU is getting touched by Ubuntu less and less... I have a 1060 and even in minetest it's running at barely 6 fps.
[21:47] <disillusion> skyliner_369, is the graphics performance ok on another distro?
[21:47] <skyliner_369> it's OK on windows... but I'm trying to use windows less
[21:48] <disillusion> skyliner_369, do you have a lot of experience installing the nvidia driver on linux?
[21:49] <skyliner_369> Also Blender is being super slow even. like I open it up with the default cube, press the play arrow, and, well, that's about 11.25 FPS
[21:49] <disillusion> These days the distros usually install the correct nvidia driver, but sometimes a particular driver version doesn't get along with the computer or graphics chip it's running on.
[21:49] <skyliner_369> I'm using nvidia's 440 driver... but honestly? I might actually have a better time with xorg it feels like now
[21:50] <disillusion> skyliner_369, is that an older nvidia card?
[21:50] <skyliner_369> oh 440 is the driver software stuff. the card is a 1060
[21:55] <disillusion> skyliner_369, did you follow the ubuntu instructions for installing the driver?
[21:57] <disillusion> Sometimes Ubuntu shows you different nvidia driver versions you have to choose from, and changing the version can fix a problem. See this article for example: https://linoxide.com/linux-how-to/how-to-install-nvidia-driver-on-ubuntu/
[21:57] <disillusion> in particular, this image in the article: https://linoxide.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/software-updates.png
[21:59] <Phruis> i have a termimal boot
[21:59] <Phruis> no gui
[21:59] <Phruis> how can i start a gui program?
[21:59] <disillusion> But it may be a good idea to switch to noveau then reboot so it starts out fresh again. Then install a different nvidia version, then reboot.
[21:59] <sarnold> Phruis: what are you trying to do?
[22:00] <tatertotz> skyliner_369: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[22:00] <Phruis> sarnold i have a pi and i am trying to get plex player started at boot
[22:00] <Phruis> sarnold https://github.com/plexinc/plex-media-player
[22:00] <Phruis> that is the software
[22:00] <Phruis> it built fine
[22:03] <sarnold> Phruis: when you run it, do you get any error messages?
[22:04] <jordandark> was wondering if there was a way to install just the login manager for lxde?
[22:04] <Phruis> sarnold could not initialize egl display
[22:04] <Phruis> i remember some command like DISPLAY=X0 or something but i can't remember it
[22:05] <Phruis> know what i am talking about?
[22:05] <sarnold> ohh hmm, pi things may do a different opengl than non-pi things..
[22:05] <sarnold> Phruis: but you don't have X installed or running? you'll probably need that first
[22:06] <Phruis> ya
[22:06] <sarnold> Phruis: hopefully an apt install ubuntu-desktop will get you there with least hassle, but there may be better ways to get just what's necessary for plex
[22:06] <Phruis> i dont want the desktop though
[22:06] <kyle__> Phruis: DISPLAY=<some other IP>:0
[22:06] <Phruis> just boot directly to plex
[22:06] <kyle__> But if you do ssh forwarding, you don't need to do that.
[22:06] <Phruis> thats it kyle__
[22:08] <kyle__> Oh, and on the machine you set the display to, you need to run xhost+<IP of box actually running the program>
[22:08] <kyle__> Or just xhost + if it's your home network.
[22:08] <Phruis> i was just gonna create a script to launch on boot
[22:08] <kyle__> Not like in school where your friends would do something like for i in {1..1024};do DISPLAY=yourip:0 xeyes & done
[22:08] <tomreyn> jordandark: apt depends --recurse lxdm | less
[22:10] <tomreyn> jordandark: this lists the packages lxdm depends on, directly and indirectly. lxdm is the lxde login manager.
[22:13] <skyliner_369> tatertotz: I am. also am back. had to do a thing.
[22:13] <jordandark> tomreyn, that's what i was wondering. i just want the display manager for logins. im using the server version to build my system. i would use arch, but im just so used to debian based systems that it would require a lot of effort to go back.
[22:13] <crash_> how well does ubuntu 20.04 run on a macbook?
[22:14] <matsaman> probably about as well as any GNU/Linux ever has
[22:14] <skyliner_369> it should run rather well, crash_ . Just know, with a newer book, the t2 chip can make running linux impossible on a macbook
[22:14] <jordandark> tomreyn, would you recommend using lightdm? or is that what lxdm is?
[22:14] <crash_> skyliner_369: mine is a 2015 air so no T2 :)
[22:15] <dym> Hey guys. This is not my posting but i have the exact same problem. Ubuntu 20.04 LTS on raspberry pi 3b. Distorted HDMI output. Any ideas? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/62337574/screen-distortion-during-install-ubuntu-server-20-04-on-raspberry-pi-3-model-b
[22:16] <jordandark> never mind. i just checked and lightdm is not lxdm.
[22:16] <tatertotz> skyliner_369: in terminal>      inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[22:16] <tomreyn> jordandark: those are different. i can't recommend anything over something else since i don't know what your needs or goals are. you're installing using ubuntu server, but apparently want graphical output, that's not wrong but not the common approach, why did you choose it? what are you building there, how does the choice of the login manager matter to you?
[22:16] <skyliner_369> tatertotz: when opening blender, closing the splash, and clicking 'play', no other action taken, blender's framerate tops out at 12 FPS averaging at about 11.5
[22:16] <tatertotz> skyliner_369:  follow instructions to install if not installed and follow through
[22:16] <tatertotz> skyliner_369:  share url/link here...if you do not get a url/link..simply say so
[22:16] <skyliner_369> what's inxi?
[22:17] <tatertotz> skyliner_369: you can read the man page by typing man inxi
[22:17] <tatertotz> skyliner_369: it is written verbatim
[22:17] <skyliner_369> there's no manual entry
[22:18] <tatertotz> --help
[22:18] <tatertotz> ?
[22:18] <jordandark> i want minimal os without having it tied to gnome or any other graphical environ. the most stripped down version of ubuntu that i could find is the server version.
[22:18] <skyliner_369> ... i'd have to install first. derp.
[22:18] <skyliner_369> I was asking what it was before installing
[22:18] <tomreyn> apt show inxi    then
[22:19] <oerheks> jordandark, the regular iso gives the 'minimal' option
[22:19] <jordandark> oerheks, its not the same
[22:19] <matsaman> jordandark: if you're going to use X at all, you should not use the server version
[22:19] <flying_sausages> sarnold, Yeah I think I don't want to have much to do with this guy's code actually https://github.com/jbruchon/jdupes/issues/136
[22:19] <oerheks> or use the mini iso, choose your own desktop or/and services
[22:19] <flying_sausages> That's his youtube channel https://youtu.be/il_kpmHj3m8
[22:20] <matsaman> jordandark: have you tried Xfce or LXDE? There are even Ubuntu distro flavors for each
[22:20] <tatertotz> skyliner_369: in terminal>      apt show inxi
[22:20] <skyliner_369> I saw what it is.
[22:20] <flying_sausages> the packagin argument is valid, the CoC one made me realise he's possibly not a human being i want to associate with
[22:20] <sarnold> flying_sausages: interesting....
[22:21] <jordandark> to clarify, i want my own custom ubuntu setup. ive tried every version of ubuntu and every time there is a catch. i game, so that's also part of the reason why im trying to not jump to another distro.
[22:21] <tomreyn> jordandark: i guess you'll get the most minimal variant using debootstrap.
[22:21] <sarnold> flying_sausages: there's doubtless other ways to do what it does, indeed
[22:21] <flying_sausages> he's got quite a channel... https://youtu.be/wlPm_bfol7I
[22:21] <matsaman> flying_sausages: you don't want binaries built for your distro by upstream anyway
[22:21] <matsaman> they almost always do it wrong
[22:22] <matsaman> but yeah, youtube, wow
[22:22] <jordandark> i just want a minimal setup. where all i have is the console and apt and the base kernel
[22:22] <jordandark> that way i can build up from there.
[22:22] <flying_sausages> jordandark, ubuntu minimal?
[22:22] <jordandark> flying_sausages, lol no
[22:22] <jordandark> smh
[22:22] <flying_sausages> this is his web https://www.jodybruchon.com/
[22:23] <flying_sausages> ubuntu for embedded? jordandark
[22:23] <jordandark> flying_sausages, no, its for my desktop
[22:23] <flying_sausages> lol
[22:23] <flying_sausages> You could check out popos
[22:23] <jordandark> i have everything ready to go, i just needed to figure out the login manager
[22:23] <skyliner_369> tatertotz: https://termbin.com/x1g13 that's the term-out for ya
[22:24] <jordandark> matsaman, why should i not use server version if im going to use X?
[22:24] <tomreyn> jordandark: so you figured out networking?
[22:24] <jordandark> tomreyn, NetworkManager
[22:24] <matsaman> jordandark: because X doesn't belong on servers, and so servers aren't QA'd for use of X
[22:25] <tomreyn> so you switched to NM? that's probably what you want on a graphical desktop,yes
[22:25] <jordandark> matsaman, its for desktop, so it wont be on prod
[22:25] <tatertotz> skyliner_369: your install of Nvidia 440.100 did not complete successfully
[22:25] <jordandark> tomreyn, unless im missing something else
[22:26] <jordandark> im not using the server version for a server. im using it because its the most minimal setup of ubuntu i can find.
[22:26] <skyliner_369> thanks, tatertotz. *headdesk* it succeeded first and ran really well... then decided to putz off. AAAAAAAAAAAA
[22:26] <jordandark> unless there's another option, aside from the default minimal option for the desktop version (which i know about already)
[22:26] <matsaman> think that's probably going to waste your time more than help you, but suit yourself
[22:27] <tatertotz> skyliner_369: i understand
[22:28] <flying_sausages> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqZNfReI1i4 I need to stop lol
[22:28] <PonySoldier> why does my application not recognize the Environment var in my systemd service file?
[22:29] <skyliner_369> how do I tell the advanced package tool to repair an install? do I have to install the xserver driver, purge all the nvidia packages, and reinstall?
[22:29] <tomreyn> jordandark: there may be a few more packages installed and configurations set you wouldn't have on a desktop installation. but i'm not sure about that really. i don't think it's generally a wrong approach to convert a server installation into a desktop if you know what to keep in mind and look out for.
[22:29] <PonySoldier> found the problem
[22:29] <PonySoldier> gg
[22:30] <tatertotz> skyliner_369: in terminal>     journalctl -p 2|nc termbin.com 9999
[22:30] <Jordan_U> jordandark: Sounds like "sudo apt install lxdm --no-install-recommends". You might also like to change apt to default to not installing packages that are recommended but are not dependencies.
[22:31] <skyliner_369> tatertotz: here's the output. https://termbin.com/bofg
[22:32] <skyliner_369> so a corruption of something with initframs
[22:35] <jordandark> Jordan_U, thank you
[22:35] <tatertotz> skyliner_369: you'll need to correct your failed 440.xxx install
[22:35] <jordandark> tomreyn, its virtually the same... there are a few caveats though.
[22:36] <skyliner_369> IDK how to even. How do I tell the APT that the install is dead?
[22:36] <jordandark> i already looked at the release page for focal
[22:36] <jordandark> https://releases.ubuntu.com/20.04/
[22:36] <skyliner_369> or do I have to log out and CTRL ALT F2?
[22:38] <tatertotz> skyliner_369: uninstall the nvidia 440.100 and reinstall it
[22:38] <tatertotz> skyliner_369: sudo apt purge nvid*
[22:38] <tomreyn> thats if you installed it using apt
[22:38] <Jordan_U> jordandark: You're welcome.
[22:39] <skyliner_369> Wildcard didn't wildcard
[22:40] <tatertotz> skyliner_369: I was expecting it to
[22:41] <tatertotz> skyliner_369: uninstall the nvidia 440.100 and reinstall it..using the same but opposite method you used to install it
[22:41] <tatertotz> skyliner_369:  if some GUI thing, reopen it and select nouveau
[22:45] <oerheks> Automatic login does not work with the NVIDIA proprietary driver , incl 440 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/1845801
[22:47] <skyliner_369> I'm gonna just reinstall using the APT over any other method. Nvidia's RUN script screwed it methinks
[22:47] <Phruis> i dont know why people like kodi
[22:48] <Phruis> i would say 80% of the software doesn't work
[22:50] <tatertotz> skyliner_369: it's been in critical for a long time, you must not turn that machine on very often
[22:51] <skyliner_369> More accurately I must not have booted to the drive in a long time
[22:53] <skyliner_369> A lot of those criticals were a faulty SATA drive compounded by a juuuuuuuuust barely slightly fried CPU or mobo
[22:54] <skyliner_369> I um... went too ham on cooler thumbscrews
[22:56] <skyliner_369> Went to reinstall via apt and "yay" it failed. AAAAAAAA
[22:58] <tatertotz> skyliner_369: in terminal>     ubuntu-drivers devices|nc termbin.com 9999
[22:58] <skyliner_369> I'd upgrade to a nice AMD GPU but I don't have any moneys thanks to this whole pandemic
[23:01] <tatertotz> skyliner_369: makes a lot of sense why you had poor performance in just about anything
[23:02] <skyliner_369> Luckily I have a new pc now. Had it for quite a while. The old mobo and cpu are still sat on a table
[23:02] <Kamilion> Anyone know how to install focal on xen? I keep getting "not a xen image"
[23:04] <skyliner_369> Also, tatertotz after using the reinstall command after autopurging and then installing the package inxi says: https://termbin.com/phri
[23:05] <skyliner_369> I'm a data hoarder so I still have all my HDDs
[23:07] <Bashing-om> skyliner_369: "Nvidia's RUN script" - did you use Nvidia's uninstall script to remove Nvidia's driver ?
[23:08] <tatertotz> skyliner_369: you didn't reboot after reinstall and or restart X
[23:08] <skyliner_369> I restarted x. Ctrl Alt f1. I even remembered to exit from my terminal login.
[23:09] <skyliner_369> I think it's running OK now
[23:09] <tatertotz> skyliner_369: that inxi doesn't look good
[23:10] <tatertotz> skyliner_369: but if you believe it's an improvement I won't argue that
[23:10] <skyliner_369> How do I turn off vsync? Since blender can't do framerates above 60 thanks to forced vsync
[23:11] <tatertotz> skyliner_369: in vidia settings
[23:11] <tatertotz> which may or may not even open
[23:12] <tatertotz> skyliner_369: did you try to use nvidia-settings?
[23:12] <tatertotz> skyliner_369: probably doesn't open eh
[23:13] <tatertotz> skyliner_369: you probably get some error when you try to even use nvidia settings eh
[23:13] <skyliner_369> I have settings.
[23:13] <skyliner_369> I'm editing them.
[23:15] <skyliner_369> I see no way to disable vsync though
[23:16] <skyliner_369> Or is Nvidia x server settings the wrong app?
[23:16] <tatertotz> that's the correct app
[23:20] <skyliner_369> Wait I found it. Sync to vblank
[23:23] <skyliner_369> I'm trying to force blender to chug. I mean an icosphere of 9 subdivisions is taking a minute to generate but...
[23:25] <skyliner_369> It still goes at 375 fps so yeah. 380 frames at 1.3 million faces in blender
[23:44] <alschaapman> How can I completely reset console-setup settings