 @Condoulo [ok, I just received a PinePhone, but don't seem to have success pulling up the c …], SXMO os ,the camera opens, but that's about it
 does preparing system image tend to take a long time normaly?
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 Hi sorry to be annoying is this a bug or a feature I connected my computer to my phone over Bluetooth and it has turned my phone into a Bluetooth speaker.
 it also completely override the volume control on the phone
 (Video, 6s) https://irc.ubports.com/RW1D84sF.mp4
[01:57] <ubptgbot> <Ajay Sahu> India bans 50+ Chinese apps including tick tock, cam scanner, UC browser, govt on talks with companies to replace the custom ROM by xiaomi..
[01:58] <ubptgbot> <Ajay Sahu> Fwd from Moneycontrol: BIG BREAKING | Indian govt bans #59Chinese apps, including #TikTok, CamScanner, Shein, ShareIt https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/india/government-bans-tiktok-58-other-chinese-apps-5477691.html … Full list here:
[01:59] <ubptgbot> <Ajay Sahu> Good news for UB ports. and pine phone can finally find the large target market
 @Ajay Sahu [Good news for UB ports. and pine phone can finally find the large target market], I wish that to be true but it won't be
[02:07] <ubptgbot> <Ajay Sahu> @Brendan [I wish that to be true but it won't be], We are working on it, i am preparing a proposal and questioner for UB ports.. Last week spoke to Ricardo for the same
 does anyone know off the top of their head if halium based UT ports use system-sleep for handling the low power suspend state?
 Im trying to have a script run pre and post suspend, put it in the /lib/systemd/system-sleep directory wiht my pre and post args, and its not executing at all
 (Sticker, 512x487) https://irc.ubports.com/TT521iMO.webp
 i appreciate the participation trophy, but i'd be better served with some info on what im doing wrong
 :)
 @Shinkamui [does anyone know off the top of their head if halium based UT ports use system-s …], they should generally support whatever is the method of entering deep sleep yes
 @Ajay Sahu [Good news for UB ports. and pine phone can finally find the large target market], please don't forward random messages from others into here (especially from bots which just post articles from their own web site). India banning apps on android/ios really doesn't mean anything for UT, unfortunately. and the messages looks/feels
[02:46] <ubptgbot> like spam
 @Shinkamui [Im trying to have a script run pre and post suspend, put it in the /lib/systemd/ …], Ubuntu Touch does not use systemd yet
 well, that would explain a lot
 :)
 Im trying to run some pre and post suspend scripts to take care of my keyboard backlight
 can you give me a hint on what mechanism i should be looking at?
 i don't think it triggers typical traditional linux distro suspend/resume events
 well, this just got quite a bit harder than i thought it would be :-D
[02:51] <ubptgbot> <Ajay Sahu> @dohbee [please don't forward random messages from others into here (especially from bots …], Hey, it was not by random bots, it's by a human only.. It's okay if you don't feel the same way, it won't be posted again..
[02:52] <ubptgbot> <Ajay Sahu> Last week i did discussed the possibilities of UT In Indian Markets, but i understand there could be differences in the thoughts
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 @dohbee [Ubuntu Touch does not use systemd yet], That was wierd considering UB touch is 16.04 and Ubuntu desktop 16.04 had systemd
 Systemd needs new kernel features missing from versions like 3.4
 @S [That was wierd considering UB touch is 16.04 and Ubuntu desktop 16.04 had system …], ^
 If they switched to systemd a ton of devices would need a bunch of kernel patches or just be completely unsupported (hopefully we can get a nice patch set together by the time UT moves to 20.04)
 @TuxThePenguin [If they switched to systemd a ton of devices would need a bunch of kernel patche …], Well, atleast at this point of time, its not clear if systemd is better or worse
 For something like UT I'd say systemd is probably better if possible, that would mean less work to maintain since it would be the same as regular Ubuntu and UT isn't focused on being super lightweight like some other distros
 Steve  … Where can I get the Nexus Toolkit? … It is no longer available on xda, the link no longer works. … Do you know of a trustworthy source?
 @shinyhairsmylifeambition [Steve  … Where can I get the Nexus Toolkit? … It is no longer available on xda, the …], https://nexus-root.com/download/
[06:10] <ubptgbot> anibyl was added by: anibyl
 @S [https://nexus-root.com/download/], Thanks
[06:37] <ubptgbot> gusycaqugawy8935 was added by: gusycaqugawy8935
 Hi everyone, I would like to ask what kind of telegram, YouTube and analogue programs are available on ubports?
 Teleports for Telegram, Axolotl for Signal. No WhatsApp
 FluffyChat for Matrix
 With Webber you can make a webapp for most purposes, which may be more convenient than using the browser
 Online services built for harvesting your data are not well supported 😁
 @Stereofont [Teleports for Telegram, Axolotl for Signal. No WhatsApp], one can use ```mautrix-whatsapp``` to run whatsapp through the Fluffy chat app, however!
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/QNGIURbM.png help
 @aviwad [one can use mautrix-whatsapp to run whatsapp through the Fluffy chat app, howeve …], And many other services. I think that integration is still being worked on though and generally requires a zombie android device maintaining the account
 @lordhacker0727 [<reply to media>], Porting questions should be directed to @Halium group
 @Stereofont [Online services built for harvesting your data are not well supported 😁], Well, anyway, some kind of Youtube Vanced is much more convenient than the site (even as an application)
[08:59] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> Cosmetic question 😉: is there a way to configure the app scope so that it doesn't disappear? Maybe it's called dash, don't know...so like this:
[09:00] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/kj6nHwCl.png
[09:00] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> Without sliding away every time
 @Federica Galli [<reply to media>], Nexus 5?
 @Federica Galli [Without sliding away every time], I guess the 'sprint' app is approaching something like you are asking for.
[09:05] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> @Bharatwaj.S [Nexus 5?], No opo
[09:05] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> @wayneTBT [I guess the 'sprint' app is approaching something like you are asking for.], OK, thx
 @Federica Galli [Cosmetic question 😉: is there a way to configure the app scope so that it doesn …], It's called app drawer and it's not possible to make it always visible.
[09:43] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> @libremax [It's called app drawer and it's not possible to make it always visible.], I see. It's a pity because every time one needs to push the home button, unecessary step....
[09:48] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> @Federica Galli [I see. It's a pity because every time one needs to push the home button, unecess …], This is a new feature that was implemented in the last OTA 12 update
[09:53] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> @Steve Kueffer [This is a new feature that was implemented in the last OTA 12 update], ah! so if i updated my phone i should be able to set that?
 @Federica Galli [ah! so if i updated my phone i should be able to set that?], No the drawer is new. There might be changes in the future, but first release was stability first.
 People alreasy asked if the launvher could go away too. I personaly would prefer your suggested behaviour.
 Lot discussion already happened.
 Federica, I think @mateosalta has a click you can install to make the drawer permanent
[09:58] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> @Danfro [People alreasy asked if the launvher could go away too. I personaly would prefer …], i personally like both the launcher ( vertical as it is now so that a number of favorites can fit there) and the app drawer if it doesn’t slide away.
[09:59] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> @markvesime [Federica, I think @mateosalta has a click you can install to make the drawer per …], 👍
 @Federica Galli [i personally like both the launcher ( vertical as it is now so that a number of …], Yes. And ideally the option to arrange the icons in my prefered order. But we will see how the drawer will evolve during the next couple of months.
 @Stereofont [And many other services. I think that integration is still being worked on thoug …], true
 so... what's the situation with anbox? been out of the loop for a while
 @Federica Galli [I see. It's a pity because every time one needs to push the home button, unecess …], I'm a bit confused, because you dont need to press the super button to use the drawer or launcher bar … If you do a small swipe from left to right, you get the launcher bar with all your pinned and open apps. … If you do a long
[12:26] <ubptgbot> swipe from left to right, you get the launcher bar, and the app drawer.
 I'm also confused about what people mean when they say "It'd be nice if it doesn't slide away", because surely that would mean that you wouldn't be able to use any apps at all, because the app drawer is open.
 @Rcmaehl [<reply to media>], No way, have you been using it?
 @PhoenixLandPirate [I'm also confused about what people mean when they say "It'd be nice if it doesn …], doing a long left to right swipe is the same as pressing the BFB (the button with ubuntu's logo) … I think she wants the drawer always open when there are no apps opened :)
 @PhoenixLandPirate [I'm also confused about what people mean when they say "It'd be nice if it doesn …], yes, same sentiments. I guess it's not easy to discover the long swipes and short swipes. The initial tutorial should be updated with short and long swipes
 @Javacookies [yes, same sentiments. I guess it's not easy to discover the long swipes and shor …], I think it already does, doesn't it?
 I don't think it explicitly tell the user to do short/ling swipes on both sides
 @mymike00 [doing a long left to right swipe is the same as pressing the BFB (the button wit …], Yeah I know the logo button does the same/similar thing, but when she said it was an extra step, I thought "Wait, but it doesn't have to be, just keep going" kinda thing, but it makes sense when we're talking about a empty background.
 Ah sorry, you already know it ☺️. yeah the discussion was on empty background, indeed...
 Unless I'm coming from a fresh boot, I always have an app or 2 in the background, so that screen I don't think about for more than a few seconds on the accession :')
[12:46] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> @PhoenixLandPirate [I'm also confused about what people mean when they say "It'd be nice if it doesn …], what I mean is that it would be nice to have the app drawer always open AND to be able to get to the running apps by swiping AND to have the launcher. The "empty" desktop looks too much like a deskop PC to me ;) Also, when loggi
[12:46] <ubptgbot> ng in it's handy to be able to see the app drawer right away, together with the launcher with the favorite apps. At least, this is the way i'd prefer.
 on this topic, you reminded me about a design thing that I haven't had time to file... i feel that the search field that is currently at the top of the drawer should be moved to the bottom near the ubuntu button.  This prevents having to reach up to quickly search an app (In my opinion).  Any reason why this could not be done?
 it ultimately allows one hand operation actually instead of requiring the other hand to tap the search field.
 @S [That was wierd considering UB touch is 16.04 and Ubuntu desktop 16.04 had system …], systemd is present on UT, the events are just not triggering, so it seems he is correct, at least in the sense that systemd isn't used for the PM and other system events handling
 sucks though, because now Im digging through documentation with no trace so far of anything helping me figure out what to do next
 @wayneoutthere [it ultimately allows one hand operation actually instead of requiring the other …], I have the same idea and even had some design prototypes for that. Putting the search field at the bottom should also mean the layout direction of the app grid should also be reversed. It kinda make sense since the launcher is inverted
[13:34] <ubptgbot> as well anyway.
 Another option I though is dragging the app list will focus the search field but recently pull to refresh was added although I believe it's a temporary thing
[13:36] <ubptgbot> <Federica Galli> @wayneoutthere [on this topic, you reminded me about a design thing that I haven't had time to f …], good point.
 🤚 do you know if if it is possible to pick up a call from your PC instead of your device ? I would love to make phone calls from my PC and not to be disturbed every 5-minutes by smartphone
 @Javacookies [Another option I though is dragging the app list will focus the search field but …], yes! this is a good idea and I also wondered why the focus didn't go to the search field by default. that would solve the same thing good point
 @Rebecca58 [🤚 do you know if if it is possible to pick up a call from your PC instead of yo …], Linphone?
 @wayneoutthere [Linphone?], No from a nexus 5 with Ubuntu touch
 @wayneoutthere [yes! this is a good idea and I also wondered why the focus didn't go to the sear …], auto focusing the search field would be too much I think. Not everytime you open the drawer you want to search and showing the OSK can be distracting
 @Willem-Jan de Hoog [observation: when the display goes off by itself (auto suspend?) the music conti …], hi willem do you still use OPO
[13:45] <ubptgbot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> well I have it. don't use it much. why?
 @Javacookies [auto focusing the search field would be too much I think. Not everytime you open …], that's why you get paid the big bucks!
 @Federica Galli [what I mean is that it would be nice to have the app drawer always open AND to b …], lomiri is a graphical shell meant to be converged (so thus it is meant to work on phones, tablets, laptops, and workstations). so of course some parts might feel like they are more related to how you consider yourself to use a PC
 @Shinkamui [sucks though, because now Im digging through documentation with no trace so far …], what are you trying to do exactly?
 @Rebecca58 [🤚 do you know if if it is possible to pick up a call from your PC instead of yo …], it is not currently
 @Willem-Jan de Hoog [well I have it. don't use it much. why?], What OS are you using? UT or sailfish OS
 @Javacookies [I have the same idea and even had some design prototypes for that. Putting the s …], but it needs to be ordered correctly for tablet/PC too.
[13:49] <ubptgbot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> I have two, one with UT and one with sailfishos
[13:49] <ubptgbot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> the one with ut is turned on
 @wayneoutthere [that's why you get paid the big bucks!], where's my big bucks?! 😆
 @Javacookies [where's my big bucks?! 😆], running around in the forest
 @Willem-Jan de Hoog [I have two, one with UT and one with sailfishos], Okay, thanks
[13:52] <ubptgbot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> why do you ask me these questions?
 @Willem-Jan de Hoog [why do you ask me these questions?], I guess you stopped supporting SFOS for OPO because your phone was broken, it didn't
[13:58] <ubptgbot> <Willem-Jan de Hoog> oh ok. no I lost interest but I did build 3.3 a few weeks ago
 @dohbee [it is not currently], Oh what a shame! 😞
 @Willem-Jan de Hoog [oh ok. no I lost interest but I did build 3.3 a few weeks ago], Yes, I have installed the latest SFOS for OPO. and do you now work for UT
 Dear All, the webpage is down for some maintenance just saying ^^
 @Javacookies [where's my big bucks?! 😆], the cheque is in the mail.. DHL must have it... lol
 @dohbee [running around in the forest], amazingly - I understand your reference :)
 When you decide to use ubuntu touch, you are entering a new world where the canons of android and ios do not exist therefore it is you who must adapt to the new world and not the other way around!
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 @wayneoutthere [the cheque is in the mail.. DHL must have it... lol], Damn DHL xD
[14:50] <ubptgbot> Jaroslavas Karmazinas was added by: Jaroslavas Karmazinas
[16:00] <ubptgbot> <Martin Menzel> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/GmWqHfrF.webp
[16:00] <ubptgbot> <Martin Menzel> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/ekOdwIby.webp
[16:00] <ubptgbot> <Martin Menzel> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/1prvK78l.webp
[16:00] <ubptgbot> <Martin Menzel> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/i4zDeNbq.webp
[16:00] <ubptgbot> <Martin Menzel> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/GDwuTt6d.webp
[16:00] <ubptgbot> <Martin Menzel> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/5PkR8X8R.webp
[16:00] <ubptgbot> <Martin Menzel> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/PRdHuYFp.webp
[16:00] <ubptgbot> <Martin Menzel> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/ytEQ5SMk.webp
[16:00] <ubptgbot> <Martin Menzel> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/o6tcgvUO.webp
[16:00] <ubptgbot> <Martin Menzel> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/xMD3XUPe.webp
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 Hi There, … I've bought a new headphone. My n5 can't handle it unfortunately. They do the pairing, and connect. Then if I want to start a youtube video, it just show the circle without playing anything. Then, I cant switch off bluetooth any more. I had no problem with my speakers or headphones before. Have you any advice how to proceed
[19:45] <ubptgbot> ?
 @FeketeZoli [Hi There, … I've bought a new headphone. My n5 can't handle it unfortunately. They …], That is quite common with BT headphones. Some don't connect, some connect but don't work, some connect and work. Generally, try several or use a cable
 I mean headphones on UT…
 @Stereofont [That is quite common with BT headphones. Some don't connect, some connect but do …], 😥
 Bluetooth is a minefield
 A plug in BT adapter might work?
 @Stereofont [A plug in BT adapter might work?], looking for...
 @FeketeZoli [Hi There, … I've bought a new headphone. My n5 can't handle it unfortunately. They …], Look at this thread, this update might help you, see end of conversation: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/4300/call-for-testing-updated-pulseaudio-better-bluetooth-headset-support/25
 @Flohack [Look at this thread, this update might help you, see end of conversation: https: …], thanks for the tip
[21:10] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> Folks, how can I install Python packages from terminal ? `sudo apt-get install python3-pip` gives me funny output.
 use libertine
[21:11] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @dohbee [use libertine], OK
[21:12] <ubptgbot> <mark alexa> @Flohack [Look at this thread, this update might help you, see end of conversation: https: …], Can anyone confirm that there has been progress on making phone calls using bluetooth headset ?
 Confirm would imply that there is such a claim.
 Also depends on what device you are talking about.
 Possibly
[22:41] <ubptgbot> Amer A was added by: Amer A
[23:29] <ubptgbot> <Amer A> Greetings!  … Hopefully I'm posting this in a suitable space? Please let me know if not / where is better. … I'm on my first week with UT on my OnePlus 3T (25 hours in actually!) … A big thank you to everyone contributing to the project, it's really exciting to see all the progress and good work, and excited for the potential of the projec
[23:29] <ubptgbot> t. … I'm happy to provide feedback on my device / experience / challenges faced if this helps with any of the development. … Note, I'm not a developer/programmer, this is a hobby for me. Please be gentle :) … My current aim with the phone is to get as close to my normal workflow as possible, coming from Android, some of which understandably might n
[23:29] <ubptgbot> ot be possible. … This list might be useful to anyone wondering what some people use their phones for / what apps to possibly develop as their next project. … Equally I hope some of this is useful to other OP3 owners, or at least stirs some discussion that would be useful reference material in future. … My list includes: …  ○ Calls
[23:29] <ubptgbot>  -  4G data not working - I get calls but only internet over WiFi - not ruled out a settings / carrier APN issue …  ○ Emails              - morph browser for now - the OpenStore UT gmail app fails to launch - Dekko 2 has a scary big 'EXPERIMENTAL!!!' marking... what happened to Dekko (1)? What clients are people using? …  ○ OneNote         - I'm ve
[23:29] <ubptgbot> ry reliant on this - hoping for something like the P3X OneNote app I run on my Kubuntu (for now) laptop - main PC is Windows so a cross platform solution is the ideal …  ○ Internet research             - browser seems fine, though something to block/minimise intrusive ads would be good - I've yet to explore this area online …  ○ Purchasing/shopping
[23:29] <ubptgbot>      - ebay/amazon are a staple these days, I'd hope to be interacting with an …  ○ Contactless payments   - would be nice, though I haven't come across any OSS apps …  ○ banking          - probably not on the phone for now, but would be nice to do. The morph browser might suffice. What are people doing for this? …  ○ WhatsApp     - not sorted this
[23:29] <ubptgbot>  out yet - seems like Anbox is the only solution? I get a 404 error at one of the 'solution' links on https://askubuntu.com/questions/633725/whatsapp-on-ubuntu-phone …  ○ Contacts        - sorted: vcf export from gmail - import to contacts via file browser …  ○ Calendar        - OpenApp store Google Calendar UT - opens in Morph Browser - works for
[23:29] <ubptgbot> now …  ○ SoundCloud - low priority, might end up using something else if there's something suitable on the OpenApp store …  ○Costa etc apps  - low priority... but those coffees... Is there something other than the OpenApp store to be browsing? or additional repositories to add in CLI … Thanks again to the team. Let us know how we can help!
 @Amer A [Greetings!  … Hopefully I'm posting this in a suitable space? Please let me know i …], Maybe post thus on the forum and if necessary link to it here?
[23:44] <ubptgbot> Jesus Price was added by: Jesus Price
 @Amer A [Greetings!  … Hopefully I'm posting this in a suitable space? Please let me know i …], Nice to know ur excited by UT.  Long posts r hard to read, best to break them up. Ppl know whats missing, what is needed is ppl to contribute solutions not lists ;-) Ditto re forum ^^
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