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callmepkgood morning01:53
dufluHi callmepk 02:47
callmepkhey duflu 02:47
seb128goood morning desktopers06:27
dufluHi seb128 06:32
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:35
dufluMorning oSoMoN 06:37
seb128hey duflun lut oSoMoNn how are you today?06:37
oSoMoNhey duflu, seb128 06:38
oSoMoNI'm good, how are you?06:38
seb128duflu, you had quite some upstream fixes landing recently, nice to see :)06:38
seb128I'm alright!06:39
dufluseb128, yes, a few small ones. I'm not sure what the winning formula is when others wait months or years06:39
seb128small are easier to review and have less potential to strart an argument on alternatives ways to fix right?06:41
dufluseb128, no the others are also small. I think it's just the interest of the reviewer. Lack or reviewers and lack of interest06:41
dufluThat's worse than I expected the current 'iris' mesa driver is 33% slower than the 'i965' driver it replaced07:03
tjaaltonduflu: where?07:28
tjaaltonah, found the bug report07:30
tjaaltonmaybe I should merge mesa07:31
seb128RAOF, if you are not eod yet, any chance you review some of the desktop updates in the focal SRU queue?07:53
marcustomlinsonmorning desktoppers07:56
oSoMoNmorning marcustomlinson 08:00
duflutjaalton, back :) Good morning08:02
dufluAlso good morning marcustomlinson 08:02
marcustomlinsonhey oSoMoN and duflu08:03
Laney\o\08:03
tjaaltonduflu: you'll get mesa 20.1.2 in no time08:03
seb128hey marcustomlinson, Laney, how is the island today?08:03
Laneygrey08:03
duflutjaalton, is that known to improve things?08:03
dufluHi Laney08:03
Laneymoin seb128 08:03
Laneysalut duflu 08:03
tjaaltonduflu: dunno, but that's what they'd ask to test with I bet08:04
dufluI guess I was heading in that direction anyway08:04
marcustomlinsonhey Laney and seb128. Island weather as usual of course :)08:06
marcustomlinson(an island in the Bermuda Triangle that is)08:06
Laneynot the weather you need to be worried about these days ...08:07
Laney😈08:07
marcustomlinsonOh you mean the English ;)08:08
seb128:p08:09
seb128jamesh, weekly summary reminder :)08:10
jameshseb128: on it.  Was just finishing off a code review08:10
seb128jamesh, :-)08:11
tjaaltonoh sweet, mesa is syncable08:17
* duflu tries building master08:20
jibelxnox, ubiquity is still stuck in proposed due to old udebs not being built anymore09:38
xnoxjibel:  AA needs to clean that up09:39
xnoxLaney:  your debian-cd/ubuntu-cdimage stuff is really good. it means i can locally sign CDs again, with gpg2, without doing hacks of forcing it to look for gpg1.09:53
Laneyxnox: cool, thanks for the feedback09:53
LaneyI was quite pleased to find --homedir, and ashamed I didn't know about it before :>09:53
LaneyI had all the --no-default-keyring stuff hardwired into my fingers09:53
xnoxyeah, it is nice.09:54
ograhumm ... how do i make this go away ? https://imgur.com/a/u7ZXxxv ... i as greeted with it this morning when unlocking my laptop11:18
ogra(seems like a gvfsd password prompt ... clicking either button does nothing and i can not move the window either )11:19
seb128unsure what prompted the dialog11:20
seb128bug it sounds like bug #188248111:20
ubot5bug 1824874 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1882481 undismissable, unclickable authentication dialog left on screen (top-left corner) after policykit authentication [pushModal: invocation of begin_modal failed]" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182487411:20
ograyeah, despite being a different prompt it sounds the same11:22
hellsworthgood morning desktopers13:28
kenvandinegood morning hellsworth 13:28
oSoMoNgood morning hellsworth 13:28
hellsworthhi guys :)13:28
seb128hey Heather, Ken, USers, how are you?13:29
hellsworthtired but making coffee :)13:29
hellsworthhow are you seb128 ?13:29
seb128I'm alright!13:30
seb128oh, meeting time13:30
seb128I guess it's for me to chair?13:30
seb128#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-06-13:30
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seb128#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-06-3013:31
meetingologyseb128: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress.13:31
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seb128#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-06-3013:31
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seb128sorry :p13:31
marcustomlinson:)13:31
seb128Roll call:  didrocks (out), duflu (out), hellsworth, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, trevinho (out), robert_ancell (out)13:31
oSoMoN\o13:31
Laneygreetings13:31
marcustomlinson\o13:31
jibel~o~13:31
seb128I hope you are all doing fine today!13:31
hellswortho|13:31
seb128let's get started13:32
seb128#topic rls-bb-bug13:32
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seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:32
seb128no desktop section13:32
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html13:32
seb128only assigned ones13:32
seb128#topic rls-ff-bug13:32
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seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:32
seb128the issues on there need cleaning out still :/ but nothing to review13:33
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html13:33
seb128that's in shape :)13:33
seb128#topic rls-gg-bug13:33
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seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:33
seb128bug #1865226 we agreed to take iirc13:35
ubot5bug 1865226 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "gdm-smartcard pam config needs to be updated for Ubuntu and installed" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186522613:35
seb128I'm going to accept nomination and assign to Marco? (or myself tbd)13:36
seb128the mysql lib sounds like something we should check13:36
seb128but probably not rls target, what do other think?13:37
oSoMoNprobably not13:37
Laneyhmm13:38
seb128sorry, got sidetracked checking the rdepends13:40
seb128unsure why gnome-control-center is in minimal?13:40
seb128but probably not something we need to debug during the meeting13:40
seb128anyone in favor or rls nomination?13:40
seb128if not I suggest we wontfix and move on for now13:40
seb128seems not, let's move on then13:41
seb128http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html13:41
seb128those are assigned13:41
seb128#topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages13:41
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seb128https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages13:42
seb128bbswitch / dkms we discussed previous week and is being worked on13:42
seb128wslu callmepk has been iterating some MPs13:42
seb128xorg-server needs work, tjaalton is that something you / foundation are tracking?13:42
seb128tbd I will ask for a badtest on i38613:43
seb128tracker needs a retry13:43
seb128udisks2 I uploaded a fix (hopefully it works)13:43
seb128others are new13:43
seb128that's it13:43
seb128#topic AOB13:43
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seb128any other topic?13:43
Laneyyeah, the focal stuff13:45
Laneywhy do we keep skipping over some items week on week?13:45
seb128because we (collectively) fail to go clean those items13:46
Laneythey should be notfixing or what?13:46
LaneyI can go do it13:47
seb128thx13:47
Laneyis that a yes?13:47
seb128the ones assigned to Marco I think he said to track them13:47
seb128so I think those nominated13:47
seb128and the other ones wontfixing iirc13:47
Laneyok13:49
seb128k, anything else?13:49
seb128Laney, thanks!13:49
Laneyalso we should figure out how to start tracking actual work on rls bugs again, not sure at all how much progress is being made on them13:50
LaneyI reassigned that minimal bug, it's coming from net-snmp13:50
Laneyend of comments13:50
seb128Laney, right, what's the status of the KPI?13:50
Laneythere will be a place to put them which is public13:51
Laneydid I sign up to create a metric?13:51
seb128I don't think you did13:52
seb128in fact I though about it some days ago and I wanted to have a look myself maybe13:52
seb128but I didn't pay much attention and was unsure if the public place was ready yet or not13:52
Laneyokey13:52
seb128doesn't need to a topic for the meeting though13:53
seb128let's wrap there, we can continue to chat after :)13:53
seb128thanks everyone!13:53
seb128#endmeeting13:53
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Jun 30 13:53:14 2020 UTC.  13:53
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Laneynah but getting the data working is possible to do without that (or use the private one meanwhile)13:53
Laneythx13:53
kenvandine:)13:53
oSoMoNthanks13:53
seb128Laney, did you intend to have a look? if not I'm happy to poke at those metrics13:54
seb128(just checking I didn't accidentally step on your feet)13:54
Laneynot right away, feel free13:54
seb128thx13:54
seb128k, so other stupid question from me for the day13:54
Laneywe could have a metrics hack day once this works though, that would be fun13:54
seb128that would be nice yeah13:54
seb128@question, how is desktop-minimal defined?13:55
seb128I guess it makes sense to have g-c-c in there since desktop without settings isn't a great experience13:55
Laneytechnically it is a seed13:56
Laneypolicy I don't know13:56
Laneybut yes I would say g-c-c should be there13:56
Laneyok second half of lunch now, back soon13:58
seb128Laney, enjoy!14:00
seb128Laney, and thx for reassigning the net-snmp bug14:01
tjaaltonseb128: yes, there are some new failures which need to be resolved14:06
seb128tjaalton, thanks14:20
seb128jibel, ubiquity migrated bt14:20
seb128w14:20
jibelk, I'll try it14:36
seb128Laney, k, I finally got back to fix the by team report for the new britney, I had postponed because the bugs are done in the template which isn't as easy than hacking python :p14:45
seb128Laney, https://people.canonical.com/~seb128/report.html if you want to see the output generated with your current yaml and the code I pushed14:45
Laneyseb128: looks good14:49
Laneyworks with both the new and the old one?14:49
Laneywell the URL needs to change I guess14:50
Laneyor path or whatever it uses14:50
seb128Laney, yes, works with the old one14:51
seb128Laney, what do you mean? the yaml location is going to change once the new code land?14:51
Laneyit's .xz14:52
seb128ah ok, I though that was a temp think during your testing14:52
seb128I will fix that14:53
seb128Laney, do you it makes thanks to to a try/except with the new url and fallback or do we just change to be .xz when you land the update?14:55
Laneyfalling back sounds nice to me14:59
Laneyone less thing to remember to change14:59
seb128Laney, k, pushed some more commits with the code simplication your suggested and the url fallbacking (I tried the xz read by setting your page as an url and it works)15:40
Laneyseb128: you don't have to read() on the xz one?15:56
Laneyif that works it can probably be dropped from the other one too, I guess the for loop works on the response object directly15:57
Laneyand I don't like catching bare exceptions15:57
Laneyother than that looks good!15:57
seb128Laney, k, I need to step out for diner but will do those tweaks later, thanks for the reviews!15:58
oSoMoNricotz, FYI, bug #1885743 will delay a bit the firefox 78.0 update (just the time needed to rebuild the packages and validate them)16:14
ubot5bug 1885743 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Search plugins need to be updated for browser.search.modernConfig=true" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188574316:14
ricotzoSoMoN, :(16:35
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