[00:00] semitones, If something's out of place, it's usually because you installed something custom, but the package maintainers are usually pretty good about being clean. [00:00] I have a few different desktop environments installed from failed experiments, and my partition is full, so I think fresh install is the quickest way to get it back in hand [00:00] semitones, So, all you have to do is update /etc/apt/sources to point to the new ubuntu release name, and perform, apt update [00:00] semitones, ouch, yeah, Agreed. [00:01] semitones, I usually just dump my machine image into network storage, reinstall, then grab the things I care about and delet [00:02] !upgrade | semitones [00:02] semitones: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade [00:03] semitones: new .iso: http://ubuntustudio.org/download/ . [00:04] tomreyn, so before, my ubuntu installation was barely touching swap, now it's using half of my swap. [00:05] it's far more effective [00:05] Hi all, I'm running Ubuntu 20.04, how do I update the Thunderbird it came with? I've done a new install of it locally but anytime I drag Thunderbird to the launch panel it runs the system one instead of the one I dragged to it. [00:07] !info thunderbird focal | katronix [00:07] katronix: thunderbird (source: thunderbird): Email, RSS and newsgroup client with integrated spam filter. In component main, is optional. Version 1:68.8.0+build2-0ubuntu0.20.04.2 (focal), package size 41714 kB, installed size 174196 kB [00:08] how do I tell what DNS my cable modem gave me, because this is surprising: host billpay.schwab.com => Host billpay.schwab.com not found: 2(SERVFAIL) [00:12] How is the quality for support of extFAT in Ubuntu 18.04? [01:01] CarlFK, try "resolvectl status" if you have a reasonably stock Ubuntu DNS setup... [01:11] Hi plz how can i un-do this :\ https://docs.gns3.com/1c2Iyiczy6efnv-TS_4Hc7p11gn03-ytz9ukgwFfckDk/index.html [01:11] i wanna remove everything related to that from my server [01:13] ikarus987, do you have the script? === zbenjamin is now known as Guest94699 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:16] that url gives a 404 [01:16] err, the script url in that documentation gives a 404 [01:16] there's of course no guarantee that even if it loaded, it would accurate describe what it did to your system [01:17] I suggest a reinstall [01:19] ikarus987, check out d dpkg -l | more [01:19] see what's installed and if anything looks abnormal [01:19] if the script was completely malicious, reinstall [01:41] Hi all, I'm trying to create a systemd service from an executable in a python virtualenv. Normally it requires you to activate the virtual environment with the source command. I saw on stack exchange that this will not work with systemd and that I should instead run the executable directly. Unfortunately, when I do this, it cannot find the other [01:41] binary files it expects to be in the same directory. I've tried specifying the working directory in the .service file but it doesn't seem to work. [01:43] are you executing those programs with ./foo in your program? [01:45] I don't know, I'm trying to set up Evennia. I'd assume it's the case due to the behaviour but I can check. [01:45] the current working directory is usually not in the PATH because doing so is a security risk [01:46] if your program is executing the other binaries with ./foo then it'll need the current working directory to be set correctly; if it is executing the programs via foo, then you'll probably need to add the path containing the executables to the PATH [01:47] Does anyone know how to /IGNORE in irssi? It doesn't seem to work for me. [01:47] Ah right, that makes sense - cheers! [01:48] Whilst looking for the definitive answer to your question, I stumbled upon an undocumented .service template for Evennia on their GitHub repo so happy days! [01:49] TwistedBlizzard: yay! [01:52] JOINS PARTS QUITS [01:52] xaneo: try /ignore * JOINS PARTS QUITS ? [01:53] sarnold: Yes, I did that and nothing happened [01:53] I'll do it again [01:53] Hmm, even running the supplied template, it still cannot find twistd. [01:55] I have to wait for someone to quit now :) [01:55] xaneo: did you see sbetrium join a moment ago? :) [01:55] TwistedBlizzard: dang, then it'll require a bit more work :/ [01:55] sarnold: no, so I guess it worked this time around. That's just weird [01:56] sarnold: I didn't include NO_ACT this time around [01:56] Seems to work [01:56] Thank you for the good help [01:57] xaneo: don't forget the /save command -- at least I tihnk that'll save ignores, too :) [01:57] sarnold: Yes sir, I did that [01:58] xaneo: I've also found the hide.pl script useful for knocking back which channels show up as 'active' in the active bar [01:59] xaneo: fwiw I prefer to have all joins, parts, quits, enabled all the time, so I can more easily spot abuse and deal with it -- and use the crapbuster.pl script to remove the noise when it gets in the way. [02:01] sarnold: you're probably an admin so it suits you more, I just have no use for this information [02:02] sarnold: Can I use WorkingDirectory=/path/to/venv/bin to allow the evennia binary to find the other executables? [02:02] TwistedBlizzard: only if the program is using ./ while executing things. (It probably isn't.) [02:03] It looks like it's using Popen(executable_name) in python [02:03] sarnold: perhaps you know of a script that allows for mouse scrolling the chat history? [02:04] The traceback references subprocess: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nttmJ6cthG/ [02:05] TwistedBlizzard: maybe try find /home/josh/servers/FractureMUD/ -name twistd -- see if that spits out anything? [02:06] xaneo: hmm, I can't spot anything on https://scripts.irssi.org/ -- I'm a bit surprised :( [02:06] sarnold: It's in /home/josh/servers/FractureMUD/env/bin/ - the same as the evennia binary. [02:07] sarnold: Thank you, though. [02:11] TwistedBlizzard: try adding Environment=PATH=/home/josh/servers/FractureMUD/env/bin/:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin [02:11] TwistedBlizzard: (I got the default path from systemd.exec(5)) [02:12] That would go below the ExecStart= line, right? [02:13] it probably doesn't matter if it is above or below the ExecStart line, but it will matter what section it goes in [02:13] immediately next to ExecStart is probably good enough [02:14] That got me up and running, thank you so much! [02:14] TwistedBlizzard: it's started? :) [02:14] Yup! :D [02:14] TwistedBlizzard: so.. one last thing before you run, there's a chance you may need to fiddle with PYTHONPATH or something similar [02:15] but I don't know venv things at all. maybe that's all taken care of already [02:15] TwistedBlizzard: so if you run into something busted when you try eg loading a new map or something, think of this moment, PYTHONPATH :) [02:15] The evennia file has taken care of that :) [02:15] yay [02:16] I have fewer worries about leaving this box unattended for the next 2 months now hooray! [02:22] heya guys.. is there a way to manually display ubuntu's message of the day, after i already saw it earlier today? [02:23] RingtailedFox: sudo run-parts /etc/update-motd.d/ [02:23] thanks! [02:24] That'll get you the latest motd - not sure if there's a way to get the last one though [02:24] oh, latest is what i wanted [02:24] i added a local weather forecast to it and i just wanted to see if it worked, and it does :D [02:24] Great! :) [02:25] https://www.howtogeek.com/104708/how-to-customize-ubuntus-message-of-the-day/ followed this one... thoguh it does whine about --id (or in my case, -i) being removed soon [02:25] " WARNING: the --id option is deprecated and will eventually be removed " [02:26] RingtailedFox: if -i ever goes away you could look at https://github.com/chubin/wttr.in or similar :) [02:27] i will [02:27] i do love the idea of having current conditions in the MOTD [02:30] !wsl [02:30] Windows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide [02:30] that's what i'm using, ubottu :) === vlm_ is now known as vlm [02:34] oh! no need for --id... just "weather CYQG" or "weather KDTW" :D [02:42] /join #ubuntu-on-windows === vlm_ is now known as vlm [03:19] i installed mariaDB, but "sudo systemctl status mariadb keep giving "active: activating (start)" instead of "active running". Anyone know why this is? [03:26] \join #mariadb [03:26] sorry [03:31] thats why i always make changes in the server window, if i make a mistake no one sees it :) [03:59] @Bashing-om is there no option to buy the developer edition of the xps 13 with 32gb of ram? [04:01] SrPx: No idea as to xps 13 specs . maybe see what uncle Google can find ? [04:01] it can't and the dell site is the worst thing ever made [04:01] just asked in case there is some obscure link i was missing you're aware of, ok? [04:01] thanks [04:03] SrPx: call Dell [04:03] i will [04:03] or not [04:04] though it does say "Up to 16GB of memory" [04:05] https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/new-xps-13-developer-edition/spd/xps-13-9300-laptop/ctox13w10p1c2200u?view=configurations&configurationid=7dd0ef2f-49ff-453f-bc06-b9fed99b95a8 [04:07] yea. weird that the non developer edition goes up to 32gb [04:07] even more weird, the developer edition goes up to 2tb, but not the non developer edition [04:08] even though all that changes is the OS that comes installed [04:08] * SrPx shrugs [04:08] their lineups are a complete mess [04:09] SrPx: https://imgur.com/a/7BJ26fj [04:27] Hi all. I'm trying to update the version of kdenlive on my ubuntu 18.04. I've installed the ppa using the command on this page: https://launchpad.net/~kdenlive/+archive/ubuntu/kdenlive-stable [04:28] However, when I try to run 'apt-get install kdenlive', I'm told I already have the latest version. But this isn't true. [04:28] I'm running 17.something on my system. And the latest version is 20.something. [04:28] bobdobbs: did you update [04:28] yes [04:28] To be clear: after I installed the ppa, I did 'apt-get update' === UserBlackBox is now known as BlackBox [04:29] And the update operation ran as expected and returned without error [04:32] I've also tried removing kdenlive with --purge and reinstalling it [04:37] adding the 3rd party ppa didn't provide any newer version, may as well remove it === SpudDogg6 is now known as SpudDogg [06:06] What is the best way to profile what is happening when I bring the screen up from lock or power saving mode? (It's taking a long time, lately) [06:33] bobdobbs: doesn't look like that ppa carries packages for 18.04 [06:46] maybe one of those have "bionic" on the drop-down field: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=kdenlive [06:46] Hello [06:47] apt-get install. Is there a way to specify proxy server or config file within a command parameter or environment variable? I do not want to modify existing files. [06:52] BadGuyAlex: see the Apt::Acquire group in apt.conf(5) and the specific man pages referred to there. these options can be passed to apt via the -o command line argument [06:55] Thanks tomreyn. I'm going to check that out. Now I have to wait until apt-gi [06:56] apt-gi? [06:56] apt-get figures out there's no connection [06:56] Damn Andie [06:56] Android keyboard [06:57] try shouting "there's no internet" at it, i believe sometimes it works. [06:57] or hit ctrl-c [07:06] BadGuyAlex: https://computingforgeeks.com/how-to-set-system-wide-proxy-on-ubuntu-debian/ also lists the available options. i think that apt also uses the environment variables (unless overruled by its configuration or command line arguments). [07:06] if you want to set the environment options globally, don't do it via /etc/profile.d/proxy.sh though, set them in /etc/environment instead [07:08] systemd also loads per user environment variables from ~/.config/environment.d/*.conf [07:42] hey [07:44] wow, what a ghost town [07:44] hi leafhouse do you have a support Q? [07:45] no not really just checking out irc trying to find active convo channels [07:45] is this support only? [07:46] yes, see topic [07:46] !offtopic [07:46] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [07:46] I can't always get a virtual terminal -- why? [07:46] ok cool, thanks! [07:47] anybody here ever used cloudflare's dns 1.1.1.1 ? [07:48] how do I get a virtual console. just text? alt=f1? [07:49] nsaunders, try ctrl-alt-f3 [07:50] oerheks: no go. it's ubuntu 20.04 --- always used to work in the past [07:50] ctrl-alt-f1 logs me out..f3 no result [07:50] (not log out, but to the login screen) [07:50] it should not log out but give login on tty [07:51] ctrl alt f1 to reverse [07:51] it gives login to gui -- not terminal [07:51] f3 does nothing..which is quite odd [07:52] now I'm just confused, because ctrl-alt-f4 did what I wanted. what happened to the others?? [07:55] https://askubuntu.com/q/1255303/847449 if anyone is so inclined. [07:55] oerheks: thanks === Scotty_Trees3 is now known as Scotty_Trees === Netham46 is now known as netham45 [09:27] hey, could upgrading windows subsystem linux , frm ubunu 18.04 to 20.4 bring a performance boost? [09:27] cause its slow as hell === rawr is now known as grumble [09:34] CriticalDrinker, wsl or wsl2? [09:34] I thnk wsl1 [09:34] no idea, there is a dedicated channel for that [09:34] !wsl [09:34] Windows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide [09:34] if I upgrade to wsl2 will I lose all files? [09:35] if you have no backup of your data, it is not important [09:35] oh x [09:35] thx [09:39] first I have to find out how to backup it, I guess like this exporting it as a file https://winaero.com/blog/export-import-wsl-linux-distro-windows-10/ [10:10] Quick question -- is there a way to dismiss the gdm lockscreen from a virtual terminal? [10:11] For some reason it isn't accepting my password [10:19] rymate1234: if password doesnt get accepted, that has a reason, typed correctly? caps ON/OFF ? [10:20] I typed it correctly to get into the VT [10:20] hence why I asked... [10:20] like there was a very obvious error when the password fails [10:20] but when I typed the password right it displayed a spinner for like a second then did nothing [10:21] rymate1234: i checked dconf-editor but dont see a way of disabling or autologin right away [10:22] I didn't ask for it to be disabled [10:22] just a way of manually dismissing it [10:25] rymate1234: try this gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.lockdown disable-lock-screen 'true' [10:26] I'll give it a shot thanks [10:26] Nah that didn't dismiss it [10:27] https://media.rymate.co.uk/trastronous here's a video of what's happening fyi [10:27] First time is purposefully incorrect, second time is me entering my password correctly [10:27] thats weird [10:28] rymate1234: so in a tty your password gets accepted right? [10:28] Yeah [10:28] And ssh [10:28] rymate1234: wich flavour are you on? [10:29] It's kubuntu but I'm currently using the default flavour desktop [10:30] rymate1234: what about trying to install another desktop like openbox, and try login into there [10:31] maybe its a flaw somewhere in sddm [10:31] RikMills: you saw this before ^ ? [10:31] maybe the disk is mounted RO ? [10:33] Nah the disk is read write [10:34] rymate1234: nvidia graphics? [10:35] lotuspsychje: not aware of anything [10:35] RikMills: ok tnx [10:38] Amd graphics [10:48] ah! [10:48] loginctl unlock-sessions worked === PowerTower_121 is now known as PowerTower_120 [11:06] 'Morning all [11:31] not really an ubuntu or even linux question, but any idea how to read this bank schemas: https://www.kingston.com/en/memory/search?model=78226&devicetype=3&mfr=SON&line=VAIO ? [11:31] max mem 8gb, but no of the schemas adds up to more then 6gb??? [11:32] If I want to ssh into some remote box, I just need to do a "sudo apt install openssh-server", right? [11:42] miguel_clean, more a ##hardware question, but the obvious missing is 4 + 4 gb. that schema just shows the other options === xclaesse5 is now known as xclaesse === caverton1 is now known as caverton [12:16] nyone know where I can get the windows version of evince? [12:18] evince is linux only. [12:18] There is a windwos version I downloaded before [12:19] Nope, if you downloaded a evince.exe, must be malware [12:20] amuro, evince is a gnome app, and thus linux only. [12:21] oerheks, it's in the repos [12:22] BluesKaj, the windows version? [12:22] never knew that, always thought it was awndows app :-) [12:23] closest thing to evince, opensource, is calibre [12:23] oh... seems to be a windows version here https://www.fosshub.com/Evince.html [12:23] heh, no wonder I was confused it's agnome app [12:24] coconut, i don't trust that [12:24] is hosshub safe? [12:24] fosshub* [12:24] ioh, also on cnet, goodluck! [12:26] oerheks, it has 30.000 downloads! [12:29] amuro, it's weird because they link to the gnome project website while there is not windows version. At the same time it is a respected website... i would try to find another app. [12:30] thx all [12:30] I downloaded from cnet, thx [12:31] Whats up with the people in windows channel? [12:31] they are so unfriendly trying to mute me when I asking for windows version of evince [12:32] amuro, you do want to find a project website first before you just install a binary found somewhere. [12:32] Oh I thought download.cnet.com is safe [12:32] I used to download a lot from that site like 20 years ago [13:12] What top program is used here? https://www.kali.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/release-2020.2-kali-kde-dark.png === NoImNotN1neVolt is now known as NoImNotNineVolt [13:18] coconut: What part in particular? [13:21] if we have servers that can't reach launchpad because the IPs are blocked, who should we talk to? [13:21] coconut: KDE Plasma, Dolphin File Manager, Neofetch (in the bottom right terminal), and something like htop? [13:23] gunix, tried #launchpad ? uk office hourse === C-4 is now known as Tanvir === JohnnyonF is now known as JohnnyonFlame [13:57] hmm, just upgraded my workstation from 18.04 to 20.04 and it seems I'm missing a bunch of fonts. and some of the ones that are installed are not rendering properly [13:57] I use fonts-powerline in my terminals and everything looks weird [14:03] I recently installer fiber internet, but I am not able to accomplish those speeds from my Ubuntu desktop, here is my current state of troubleshooting: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zNP38wQ6kJ/ Looking for guidance on what to try next [14:11] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_interface_bit_rates [14:12] That was between servers on your local lan, that has nothing to do with your internet connection [14:13] are you referring to the iperf? [14:13] Yeah. [14:13] Without more details, I'm going to guess that's local lan at least. [14:13] i included that more as a reference to the server not reaching gigabit speads in general [14:13] while other systems on the network are getting much closer [14:14] You're getting solidly more than 100BaseT can deliver, just not up to the theoretical max speeds of 1000BaseT [14:14] h all [14:14] hi all === dodocrypto_ is now known as dododcrypto [14:16] As for internet speeds, speedtest is included in the ubuntu repos. It's a CLI version of the speedtest.net page. I've got gig service as well, and I almost never test close to the advertised speed. [14:17] yes i used the speedtest cli and got even worse test speeds. i believe since i can do something liek disable network manager and get almost a 100 mb increase in speed test, that there are certain software settings i am unfamiliar with that might improve overall performance from that box [14:17] right now is the worst time for speed tests. Nobody is getting their full potential due to so many people working from home or just being at home and being online [14:17] I'll cli-speedtest my setup now.... [14:18] Download: 100.48 Mbit/s [14:18] Kamaris: I'm not a fan of networkmanager either, but it shouldn't be slowing down your connection. [14:18] Upload: 103.61 Mbit/s [14:18] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/V3W9vsVzzt/ [14:18] if you look at the block of info where i test from multiple devices, you can see it's only the ubuntu system not reaching the speed thresholds, which is why i was hoping for insight on whether it was the antiquated hardware / build not handling the throughput well, or something else from a software perspective i can try [14:18] That is the slowest I've ever seen mine test at :/ but it's also the first time I've run the test during the pandemic [14:19] kyle__: Would you say it's more beneficial to learn to set up the connection via the terminal? [14:19] Kamaris: realtek has been known to have sub-par drivers which could cause issues with throughput/efficiency [14:20] xaneo: not really [14:20] Speedtest CLI - Download: 142.78 Mbit/s / Upload: 10.75 Mbit/s ||||| speedtest.xfinity.com Download: 256.4Mbps [14:20] Oh nice, Chicargo. Went there a few weeks ago. People were shooting nearby all night lol [14:20] WaV: lets not [14:20] !ot | xaneo [14:20] xaneo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [14:21] xaneo: oh 100% It's just that the defaults in ubuntu desktop are to network-manager, and for a laptop, it's actually useful. [14:21] My servers & hardwired boxes I just do it by hand. [14:21] leftyfb: oh :( [14:21] leftyfb: OK mister police officer [14:22] See, this is why people leave IRC [14:22] one slight thing off-topic and they're punished [14:23] xaneo: this is a support channel. All other topics are offtopic here. I don't see how giving you information is punishment. [14:23] Hi guys , I'm trying to temporary add an ubuntu repository , I'm trying to get gpg keys but it seems to be not working. Am I doing Something wrong? Executing: /tmp/apt-key-gpghome.YiWuXRiVwy/gpg.1.sh --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 54B8C8AC [14:23] fakuve: which repo are you trying to add? [14:24] leftyfb: thisone echo "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mkusb/ppa/ubuntu bionic main" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mkusb.list [14:24] leftyfb: You're may be giving me information, but in essence you're pointing out my wrongdoing. [14:24] You* [14:25] OK, I've had enough of this. I'll come back another time. Have a good day. [14:25] leftyfb: it looks as if its processing but it's definitely stuck for more than 15 mins already [14:25] fakuve: undo everything you've done and run: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mkusb/ppa [14:26] thanks leftyfb [14:27] leftyfb: I dont have such a package in my repository (Kali rolling) add-apt-repository [14:27] Hey guys can I know why tracker is being used consistently? [14:27] !kali | fakuve [14:27] fakuve: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle) [14:28] leftyfb: thanks [14:28] leftyfb: I posted in here cause as it was related to an ubuntu repository. Thanks [14:28] * dododcrypto greet everyone [14:29] Not to go too OT, but I thought kali was directly a debian derivitive? [14:29] kyle__: feel free to discuss in #kali-linux [14:30] Point taken (and no argument). === coconut_ is now known as coconut === kbdlnx123 is now known as kbdlnx [15:02] i got a kernel crash dump and would like to analyze it with GDB but the .crash file on /var/crash doesn't seem to have a CoreDump file when I unpack it using apport-unpack [15:03] and using the .crash file or the file generated on /var/crash/DATE/dump.XYZ with GDB gives incorrect file format [15:03] I would like to have the CoreDump file to analyze it using GDB, apport-retrace gives the error of missing files [15:08] hi, i have a drive on which i have 2 partitions, sda1 and sda2, sda2 is ubuntu and sda1 was created to copy sda1 so i can resize it to take up the whole disk because i was running low on space on sda 1. i used ubuntu live usb to dd sda2 to sda1 and when i rebooted it boots and gets stuck at the disk detection phase in the kernel log buffer [15:09] used dd if=/dev/sda2 of=/dev/sda1 from live usb and it fails to boot now [15:09] EFI still there, grub boots [15:31] how do i completely remove an application installed in opt using "apt install appp_nnnn.deb" [15:33] how did you force apt to install in /opt/ ?? [15:36] it did it by itself [15:37] then why would sudo apt remove package_name not work? [15:39] is it a browser like chrome or a vpn client ? [15:41] is an ibm server [15:42] Why? [15:43] * oerheks watches a fresh kernel appear in updates [16:04] it's working now === raf is now known as rafael [16:16] hey i'm trying to backport a package from groovy to focal but it fails to build because it depends on debhelper 13. what is the right solution for that? [16:16] pmart: don't [16:17] pmart: groovy isn't released yet and not supported. That includes the packages from it. [16:19] i know but what about debhelper issue? [16:20] !groovy [16:20] Ubuntu 20.10 (Groovy Gorilla) will be the 33rd release of Ubuntu, scheduled for release October 2020 ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GroovyGorilla/ReleaseSchedule ). Join #ubuntu+1 for support and questions. [16:20] i build on focal not groovy [16:21] pmart, might well be but there is no support for it here. [16:21] no support for locally backported packages? [16:21] pmart, no [16:21] you can't expect to mix and match apps from different releases and have success [16:22] BluesKaj: no i don't. i build from source [16:22] doesn't matter [16:23] pmart: did you try simply lowering the Build-Depends: to debhelper 12 ? [16:23] TJ-: yes i did it fails to build it uses some 13 features apparently [16:23] pmart: sometimes the B-D is incremented 'just because' without a real reason - although the changelog or repository commit history might detail why it was set as it is [16:24] TJ-: no it was bumped on purpose there is a info in changelog [16:24] pmart: if it comes from Debian upstream they usually maintain a packaging-only source repo which might give a clue [16:25] pmart: ahhh, so, you would need to do some work to make it build then ! [16:25] pmart: is it related to using Python libraries or similar? [16:26] no it's written in Go [16:26] pmart: urghh, urghh, urghh! [16:26] i wonder if things like pbuilder would help [16:27] pmart: we generally use sbuild now, but yes, that will since it builds in a target release chroot [16:28] TJ-: but this focal chroot will have the same issue, no? [16:32] pmart: as it is Go surely it is stand-alone and doesn't need rebuilding for 20.04? As I understood it Go applications aren't dynamically linked [16:34] TJ-: they might have some Go things linked statically but the resulting binary is dynamically linked to libc and friends [16:47] Hi guys, I am trying out multipass in a virtualisation use case. I have some questions, if anyone could assist me. I have configured a new instance, and I now want to access a server running within this instance from a remote machine. I cannot find any information in the documentation on networking, it appears different to typical virtualisation [16:47] approaches. I am looking for a NAT approach to access the server on the multipass instance. Any ideas? [16:48] Or, can anyone suggest alternative solutions to remotely accessing the server in the multipass instance? [16:49] Orcs53: try #multipass [16:49] isn't 16 somethng still x86 able? [16:50] egrain: what are you referring to? [16:50] leftyfb: Cheers, I'll ask there. [16:50] i have x86 processor here. old person. firefox / music listening use case. [16:51] egrain: do you mean i386, as in 32bit? [16:51] since you dropped 32bit, i'm wondering if the old ones are still good to use these days. i mean they are lts it says. [16:51] yeah. [16:51] p4 x86 family 15 model 2, i think. [16:51] browser still works, just windows xp is crap. [16:52] so i thought ubuntu, as usual, but then i was sorely mistaken, when i saw you only have 86_64 going. [16:53] egrain: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso [16:54] egrain: that is the basic installer. During the installation, make sure to tell it to install the ubuntu/gnome desktop or else you'll just get a command-line server [16:54] egrain: you also need an internet connection [16:55] what? an internet connection? [16:55] away with this devil work! [16:55] anwyay, thanks a bunch, my left handed facebook friend. [16:56] so that's bionic beaver? [16:56] 18 something. [16:57] !yy.mm | egrain [16:57] egrain: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle [16:57] egrain: Ubuntu 18.04 is codenamed Bionic Beaver [16:58] i'm glad we are having code names. we have to protect our identities from the enemy after all. [16:58] anyway, thanks again for explaining. [17:00] why isn't there a normal not mini image for x86? i just looked through 18.04 and 4 and they are all x64. [17:00] why you hate x86 so much? [17:05] egrain: It's an edge case by now, not hated, just not common. Especially for desktop systems. [17:05] well, i don't expect someone to throw away their perfectly good machine just because it's not 64 bit. [17:05] egrain: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2018-May/040307.html [17:06] egrain: you can buy a computer for $35 that will run better than what you have there. "perfectly good" doesn't really apply here [17:06] Then they can use a distro that still supports 32bit, like https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/ [17:07] that's still 35 bucks and what do you do with old one? throw away or use it to put your legs up? [17:07] kyle__: I already linked to the 32bit installer for bionic [17:07] leftyfb: Doh. I thought that was one of the announcements about depricating it :) My bad [17:07] egrain: we're into offtopic territory here. Feel free to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic [17:07] leftyfb, all good. [17:07] why you hate x86 so much > find developers maintaining packages [17:08] that is a good reason actually [17:08] anyway, i'm off installing 32bit ubuntu! [17:08] It's hard enough for them to get good package maintainers for some packages that _are_ fully supported in 64bit. Like atop. === _Sym_ is now known as 7JTAAV8BK === ilbelkyr is now known as nicole [17:55] it says i can manually configure network, but i'm not allowed to put any IPs in. [17:55] how do i set the nameserver then? there is no /etc/resolv.conf [17:55] also i don't have vi. [18:00] oh, nano. [18:06] I was reinstalling Zoom, then all of a sudden external monitor stopped working. Now monitor doesn't show on display menu. I tried restarting laptop but didn't help. How can I fix this issue? [18:10] is this group active? [18:12] hi Kristine86 , i have no idea about zoom, prop stuff [18:12] But aside from Zoom, how can I make external monitor work now? [18:12] oh, their snap page have an issue url .. hopefull [18:13] https://snapcraft.io/zoom-client [18:14] There's a snap of it now? I think I'm going to switch from that. I have it installed via a dpkg, and frankly, I trust them only slightly more than I trust facebook [18:14] Ubuntu isn't detecting external monitor all of a sudden [18:15] Kristine86: That would have little to nothing to do with installing zoom. Does xrandr even show you anything? [18:15] Maybe you updated the kernel before the zoom install, and this was the first reboot after that, so you don't have your drivers? [18:15] nvidia card? maybe the autologin issue.. [18:16] depends what ubuntu version, actually [18:19] kyle__ yah that's very likely. I think issue probably after restart. [18:20] oerheks I'm using ubuntu 20.02 lts [18:20] Kristine86: Are you using a graphics card that requires a 3rd party driver with DKMS? Like an nvidia or amd radeon? [18:21] I'm using gtx1050x, I'm not sure [18:21] Probably then. [18:22] uname -a to see the kernel version, mine looks like this: Linux leela 5.3.0-61-generic #55~18.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 22 16:40:20 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 [18:22]