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turbogingerexit00:27
turbogingerwoops lol,  bye everybody o700:27
mfilipe[m]hey, what is the easiest way to format a new harddisk to use zfs and mount it in a permanent path?00:48
quadrathoch2mfilipe[m] https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/setup-zfs-storage-pool#1-overview00:49
mfilipe[m]tks00:50
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bobdobbsI have an android phone. I'd like to access the photos that I've taken on this phone. I'm using ubuntu 18.04. How can I access the photos?01:50
bobdobbsGoogle searching lead me to Airdroid. But that requires a third-party account. I don't want to use an external service.01:50
bobdobbsIf I just plug the phone in to my ubuntu machine, it gets immediately detected. KDE gives me options to access the phone, including using gwenview, which I think is a kind of image manager? But gwenview itself doesn't pick up the phone.01:51
bobdobbsKDE also allows me to use the file manager to access the phone. But the file manager doesn't see any files on the phone01:52
bobdobbsI've also discovered a tool called gmtp. When I run this and hit its 'connect' button it does do anything02:27
sarnoldbobdobbs: I never really knew how to connect phones to computers but I have a vague memory that there's something like you need to unlock the phone, or you need to enable developer mode, before you can do some kinds of operations beyond tethering02:33
bobdobbsI don't know if unlocking is an option.02:35
bobdobbsI think I've got some kind of developer options enabled on the phone itself. I vaguely remember setting some kind of developer options on the phone in order to allow desktop chrome to connect to chrome on the phone. This was for debugging web pages on the phone's browser.02:36
quadrathoch2well, normally it's enough to have gvfs gvfs-backends installed (and then 'unlock' the data transfer option on android)02:36
bobdobbsThere's something called kdeconnect, which requires a client to be enabled on the phone and the desktop. Unfortunately the desktop client isn't in the default repos02:39
bobdobbsfunnily enough the cli client is though02:39
bobdobbsquadrathoch2: looks like I already have those installed02:40
bobdobbsthe gvfs packages I mean02:40
quadrathoch2bobdobbs, k so normally that should work :/02:42
bobdobbsquadrathoch2: I get a lot of that02:42
bobdobbsit's odd. I seem to hit an aweful lot of edge cases with my setup02:42
bobdobbsAnd I don't think my setup is particularly exceptional02:42
quadrathoch2bobdobbs what device do you have? with what android version?02:43
bobdobbsbogstandard pc with ubuntu 18.04 installed. The android device is a Galaxy S902:43
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bobdobbsIf I'm browsing images in dolphin, how can I get the dolphin to show image profiles?03:14
kinghatany of you guys using kvm?03:19
bobdobbskinghat: what is kvm?03:20
kinghatkernel virtual management03:24
kinghatmanager?03:24
kinghatthis is the output of kvm-ok03:24
kinghathttps://paste.debian.net/hidden/05900905/03:24
leftyfbkinghat: pretty sure it gave you the exact instructions you need to enable VT/KVM support03:30
kinghatya i was just reading an article where they only singled in on the your CPU supports KVM extensions so i wasnt sure what was needed.03:32
pymagicMy virtualbox wont let windows guest expand its screen size - any ideas on how to debug this on ubuntu 20.04lts?03:35
leftyfbpymagic: try #virtualbox03:41
pymagicleftyfb, I tried - its silent for the moment. I was hoping someone would have installed a 20.04lts vbox here with windows with it03:45
leftyfbpymagic: your issue actually has nothing to do with Ubuntu. It's a Virtualbox/Windows issue03:46
pymagicleftyfb, it was working till yesterday, ubuntu updates installed, and things broke. Not sure what happened.03:49
pymagicI was hoping someone else had this problem here03:49
kinghateverything looks good after a trip to the bios, leftyfb šŸ‘03:51
pymagicmce: CPU11: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled - any ideas on how to fix this?04:16
rfmpymagic, time to pull off the cpu cooler and replace the thermal compound.  Nothing to do with #ubuntu....04:37
pymagicrfm, this is a lenovo laptop04:38
rfmpymagic, laptops are way more prone to having the compound dry out.04:38
rfmpymagic, do you hear the fan running a lot? that's the usual sign...04:40
pymagicrfm, indeed the fan is running a lot04:43
pymagicafter i install 20.04lts - 18.04 no problem04:43
rfmpymagic, no reason to believe the software version is anything other than a conicidence. If it's a three year old laptop, it's thermal compound is suspect.04:47
rfmpymagic, check on youtube for instructions on how to take it apart, buy some new thermal compound, blow the hair out of the fan.04:48
rfmanyway, I;m off to bed04:48
padhuChromium browser gives Google meet error message  'your browser can't share your screen'. I installed  chromium i80.05:13
padhu0.3987.162-105:13
scythefwd2anyone having issues with dual booting 20.04 and win 2004?05:44
Squarismwhy cant I start "nc localhost 25" ?06:19
Squarism...even with sudo06:19
ferzHello, what does snapd?06:20
ferzIs 'man snap' the documentation of snapd?06:21
CameronBraidI have a strange issue with my network settings.  I use netplan with a static setup.  Every minute ifconfig shows that the ip address is not assigned the device06:27
matsamanferz: probably just the daemon for keeping track of its things06:29
CameronBraidit dissapears for 2 seconds then comes back, each minute06:29
ferzmatsaman: so I can disable it.06:30
matsamanferz: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd#readme06:30
matsamanferz: if you aren't using snap packages, I don't see why not06:30
matsamanferz: Ubuntu is pushing those packages, so they probably want it to be as easy as possible for people to use them (that is: not having to even enable a service beforehand)06:31
ferzCameronBraid: I'd some trouble with ethernet to configure a router last week. It's a pain having to do with netplan+NetworkManager and ubuntu tcp stack.  It works great with wifi and usual dhcp connections, but it's awful when you have to try static ip configuration.06:34
ferzOn BSD I first kill dhcpclient then one ifconfig command and it works fine.06:36
ferzOn Ubuntu it's not so easy.06:36
ferzmatsaman: is there any ubuntu derivative distro that asks the user what he wants to enable instead to enable them beforehand?06:38
ferzI prefer have full control of my system.06:38
matsamanferz: you should probably try the Debian net install06:39
matsamanferz: for a desktop, probably Debian testing06:39
matsamanUbuntu is a Debian derivative, with Canonical's for-profit baggage on top06:39
ferzmatsaman: debian is using systemd either. Is there anything without systemd?06:39
matsamanUbuntu's actually sourced from unstable Debian06:39
matsamanferz: yes there is06:40
matsamanI think Devuan is the biggest without-systemd Debian project06:40
ferzmatsaman: thank you.06:40
CameronBraidFound something.. systemd-networkd[1409]: eno1: Lost carrier06:41
ferzCameronBraid: you can join #netplan channel.06:41
CameronBraidferz thanks06:41
CameronBraidThough I dont think its netplan06:49
skyliner_369does anyone know of an A.P.T. PPA or something with blender 2.83LTS or should I uninstall and switch to snap?06:56
lotuspsychje!latest | skyliner_36906:57
ubottuskyliner_369: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.06:57
lotuspsychjeor snaps indeed skyliner_36906:57
skyliner_369thanks.06:59
ducasseskyliner_369: you can search for a ppa on ppa.launchpad.net07:07
ViperXL75good morning. I've just finished installing a new Ubuntu machine and i have an old HDD that i'm still running on it. For some odd reason Ubuntu is seeing the HDD as a read only partition. While in FSTAB i mounted the drive like this: UUID=20105665105641C8   /mnt/DaBoss     ntfs-3g rw,nls=utf807:16
ViperXL75i had this same line in Ubuntu 14 then 16 then Debian9 then Ubuntu18. But now on Ubuntu20 i get that strange behaviour. Is this a known thing?07:17
ikoniaViperXL75: it's because you're using the fuse file sytem module07:33
ikoniathat will set the permissions the the 'person' mounting it07:33
ViperXL75hmm07:37
ViperXL75thing is07:37
ViperXL75even logging in as 'root'  (i know its bad), i still got the error07:37
ViperXL75I did see someone on internet saying "check if there's free room"07:37
ViperXL75i did "df" and i can see the drive at 100% in use07:38
ViperXL75it's a download-bunch-of-crap HDD.07:38
ViperXL75But now i'm sitting with the chicken and the egg problem. I need to free up some space maybe, for the drive to become "read/write" again? But i can't 'write' to it to delete files.07:39
ogurkif auditd is disabled and not in use - what could go wrong if I just uninstall a package?08:00
scythefwd2well, figured my dual boot issue out.. secure boot..08:11
dustwhere is the folder for thunderbird profile of the snap version? want to import a profile from debian sid version... at normal ubuntu version i have this problem https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/dedicated-profile-thunderbird-installation#w_what-happens-to-my-profile-if-i-downgrade-to-a-previous-version-of-thunderbird08:16
skyliner_369I just completely froze my PC... well... its probably solely reliant on the page pagefile at the moment, but it's completely unresponsive.08:19
swenssonI'm about to give up, checking here before I change the password and run around with a monitor & keyboard.....I got a weird password, that contains @-"`=(' . I'm unable to connect to the wifi due to this. Anyone have any suggestions on how to do this? Headless unit...08:20
Kario/08:21
scythefwd2ssh?08:21
Kariwhat OS skyliner?08:21
Karisorry, release08:21
Karii've been having very similar issues, using 2 different distros, kali and ubuntu. i'm leaning towards hardware or hardware compatability since my stuff is real old.08:22
skyliner_369Focal. Current. I made an ENORMOUS blender scene. If nothing else, I completely obliterated my GPU08:23
Karilmao ouch08:25
Karii get freezing just sat on desktop with nothing open, so probably not related ;)08:25
dustfound it in home snap thunderbird common .thunderbrid08:26
skyliner_369Ubuntu is going to take a minute to boot as swap or the pagefile is cleared08:26
scythefwd2trying to see if I have hw acceleration enabled.. trying to use glmark2.. but getting an error about not being able to open a canvas..08:29
scythefwd2so I tried to run glxgears and it says it couldnt open display (null)08:30
skyliner_369Why does Ubuntu think discord crashes when the launcher closes?08:31
scythefwd2running whatever the latest I downloaded last night ...08:31
scythefwd2ah ha.. my fail08:35
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schanggI am looking for the package that holds resolvectl09:44
schanggaccording to this https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=resolvectl&mode=exactfilename&suite=eoan&arch=any09:44
schanggit should be systemd09:44
schangghowever when I check /var/lib/dpkg/info/systemd.list it is not there09:45
schanggand consequently not available on my system09:45
CameronBraidAnyone have an idea how to fix an issue with ethernet eno1: Lost carrier, eno1: Gained carrier happening fairly frequently09:50
legreffierschangg: depending on your ubuntu version it could be in systemd-resolve09:57
schangg1809:57
schanggno such package09:58
legreffierschangg: this was still called systemd-resolve then. it's provided by systemd.10:03
legreffierMore importantly, what are you trying to do ?10:03
amuroHow to upgrade the distro from 18.04 to 20.04 in terminal?10:05
amuroHow come I got the message saying that 18.04 is the latest LTS release when I run sudo do-release-upgrade10:05
amuroIs it because my system is 32bit?10:07
legreffieramuro: yes.10:08
amuroSo, ubuntu 18.04 is the last 32bit OS?10:09
legreffieramuro: 19.10 is the last one. 18.04 is the last LTS.10:10
amurowhat about 20.04 LTS?10:10
amurono more LTS for 32bit?10:10
legreffieramuro: no.10:10
amuroJust wondering, I am ok with 18.0410:10
legreffierit will still be supported for some time. there's no "easy upgrade" to go to amd64 branch though, you will very probably need to re-install your system.10:12
amuroI can upgrade to amd64 even if the system is not 64bit?10:14
ducasseno, you need a 64-bit cpu10:18
guiverc2amuro, the 18.04 LTS upgrade isn't offered for 20.04 until AFTER 20.04.1 is out, that won't occur till after 23-July-202010:21
legreffieramuro: I don't know what you use for a computer, but it's very probably able to run 64 binaries.10:26
amuroguiverc2: thx10:26
legreffierif you bought it after 2005-10...10:26
guiverc2amuro, but as already stated; if you're using i386/686/x86 you won't get offered (19.04 was last x86/i686 meaning 18.04 is last supported since 19.04 is EOL already)10:27
amurolegreffier: It's my Mom's computer so she can watch TV shows mostly10:27
Warped18.04 will be supported until April 202310:40
WarpedOnly problem is that software updates might not be available for 32bit.10:41
WarpedFor software other than the OS.10:41
speeder39_Good morning10:45
amuroWhat's the popular cloud server on ubuntu? ownCloud? version 10.4.1?10:50
amuroI am new to this and want to learn to play with ubuntu server.10:50
WarpedNextCloud10:53
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amuroIs snap a new package manager now? instead of apt?11:09
amuroFor 20.04?11:09
guiverc2amuro, snap is more a type of package, the default package manager for Debian/Ubuntu handles deb packages..  snaps run in containers and are handled via `snap` command (instead of `dpkg|apt|..`11:19
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echoSMILEWhen I login ubuntu from ssh I get the system information like system load, temperature, memory usage, and other metrics... can somehow execute this to give me this information whenever I want ?11:21
guiverc2echoSMILE, I tend to put my commands in /usr/local/bin/ (they're available to all users), but do whatever is appropriate for your company/organization (which maybe to place in ~/bin/ so only run by you)11:24
schanggI just installed ubuntu:latest inside a docker and when I run systemd-resolve --status I am getting sd_bus_open_system: No such file or directory11:26
schanggnot sure this has anything with the fact that I am inside a docker11:27
echoSMILEguiverc2: my question is to execute that script/tool that is triggered on login11:27
schanggI've found people having this issue and fixing with some symbolic links but that seems to be a pretty ugly of doing this11:27
schanggisn't this supposed to work right away without doing to sumlinks tricks ?11:27
guiverc2echoSMILE, possibly adding it to ~/.profile is what you want11:28
echoSMILEguiverc2: I want to execute that particular tool11:28
echoSMILE:P11:28
guiverc2sorry I don't know what tool you are seeing  (uptime;free are common, but temperature can be gained from many means, as can info found in uptime;free (which is `top` like in display)11:29
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CameronBraidany idea how I can track down the cause of a wired network getting "Lost carrier" and "Gained Carrier" when its always plugged in ?11:48
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echoSMILEguiverc2: I got it: $ landscape-sysinfo11:49
guiverc2:)11:50
echoSMILEsudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu-pi: Temporary failure in name resolution12:05
echoSMILEWhat I did wrong ?12:05
echoSMILEa lot of commands are telling me that12:06
ignapkhow do I easily run this at startup https://github.com/hexvalid/Linux-CapsLock-Delay-Fixer12:19
BluesKaj'Morning folks12:23
speeder39_Good morning12:35
lotuspsychjewelcome speeder39_12:36
speeder39_Hi lotuspsychje are you in the USA12:37
lotuspsychjespeeder39_: no, europe timezone12:38
speeder39_Ah, tomorrow's independence day July 412:38
speeder39_Tell me, is there high speed internet where you are in Europe12:39
ubuntuuser1so I can't get my wifi to connect without tethering, any help?12:39
ubuntuuser1yes im sure i got the password right, just won't connect12:39
lotuspsychje!discuss | speeder39_ come to here12:40
ubottuspeeder39_ come to here: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!12:40
Salatwurzeluhm guys ... did they remove the option when my pc should go in standby? Under System > Preferences > Power Management i can only see/set when my pc turns the monitor off12:45
Salatwurzeli guess its a bug?12:45
Salatwurzel(Power, not PowerManagement)12:46
smallville7123Salatwurzel: go to...12:46
smallville7123Power -> Blank Screen -> Never12:46
Salatwurzelsmallville7123, tried it. That doesnt give me the option to select when my computer goes to sleep though12:47
smallville7123also Privacy -> Screen Lock -> Blank Screen -> Never12:47
smallville7123also Privacy -> Screen Lock -> Blank Screen Delay -> Never12:48
Salatwurzelsmallville7123, tried that also ... changes nothing ... anyway i just want to set that after15min my monitor turns off and after 2 hours my pc goes into standby12:57
Salatwurzelthe option for it was there https://imgur.com/a/i5mpUBo under blank screen in 18.0412:57
Salatwurzel(did a fresh 20.04 install yesterday)12:57
semitonesif you're in a terminal, and you forget to sudo a command12:57
semitonesis there a built in keyboard shortcut that can help you12:58
smallville7123Salatwurzel: change to KDE desktop then, you can do stuff like that in there12:58
smallville7123no idea how to do that in default desktop12:58
semitonesright now I press 'up' to get the previous command, and then 'home' and then type 'sudo ' but wondering if there's a faster way.12:58
smallville7123semitones: probably not12:58
smallville7123semitones: check online12:59
semitonestechnically irc is part of "online" but I get your meaning :)12:59
niubo/12:59
semitonesim reading lists of keyboard shortcuts but not seeing something this specific yet; but i considered that it might be common enough for someone to know here of the top of their heads13:00
niubI'm trying to build a package, is this the right chan to ask question about packages and such?13:00
lotuspsychjeniub: we mostly advice to use the packages from the ubuntu official repos here13:01
lotuspsychje!alis | niub13:01
ubottuniub: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"13:01
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niublotuspsychje fair enough but I need to add a patch and rebuild it13:02
lotuspsychjeniub: wich package are we talking about?13:02
niublotuspsychje edk213:03
smallville7123btw does snap-store (ubuntu store) work for anyone?13:03
niublotuspsychje I'm importing it using this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+sourcefiles/edk2/0~20191122.bd85bf54-2ubuntu3/edk2_0~20191122.bd85bf54-2ubuntu3.dsc13:04
lotuspsychjeniub: can this wiki help any way? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/EDK213:04
niubbut when I try to build it it fails adding a patche13:04
semitonessmallville7123, I removed it13:04
semitonesit was too large and I only had 10 GB13:04
niublotuspsychje no, that doesn't help. I know how to build the source code...in this case I need to package it and I wanted to stay as close to the ubuntu way as possible13:05
lotuspsychjeniub: maybe someone in #ubuntu-devel could know, or direct you to a better place13:06
smallville7123also for anyone that wands to remove the software updater (cus sometimes causes ubuntu to crash while installing packages and sends u to log in screen where you cannot log in probably cus ur already logged in, and causing you to be unable to reboot via the gui, forcing you to need to hard reboot)13:06
smallville7123sudo apt remove update-notifier update-manager update-notifier-common update-manager-core ubuntu-release-upgrader-core13:06
niublotuspsychje roger that, I'll ask in #ubuntu-devel then, thx!13:07
speeder39_Niub are you in the USA13:25
semitonesI would just like to announce13:48
semitonesthat I successfully used "mail" for the first time!13:49
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pahi14:27
pahow do i enable core dumps in 20.04?14:27
pai did ulimit -c unlimited14:27
pait says unlimited now14:28
pabut no core is dumped14:28
bodiccealvm14:35
oerhekspa check unlimit -a | grep core, if it shows unlimited, coredump is enabled for your current session.14:35
oerheksYou can install systemd-coredump to control dump file deeply, like: size, compressionā€¦. https://blog.monsterxx03.com/2017/07/15/enable-coredump-on-ubuntu-16.04/14:36
quadrathoch2oerheks he left ^^14:36
oerheksoh thanks14:36
graciescoopDoes Ubuntu have an equivalent of Arch Linux's pacstrap?14:40
oerheks debootstrap ?14:41
oerhekshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot14:41
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graciescoopoerheks: that looks like it would work, but I need something that doesn't require root  (I'm using proot)14:47
oerheksgraciescoop, yes, it requires root.14:53
oerhekswhat makes you think it can be doen without?14:53
graciescoopI didn't know if there was a way to just download something I could proot into14:54
speeder39_Hello14:54
coconuthey speeder39_14:55
speeder39_Hi coconut are you in the USA14:55
coconutnope,the Netherlands14:56
oerheksoh, they give ubuntu in the netherlands?14:56
graciescoopCan't you download it anywhere?14:57
coconutlast time i checked they did14:57
biebI have an ubuntu webserver, running 18.04.4, I was doing some maintenance today, there was a message for packages to be updated, so I ran apt-get update and upgrade. now apache wont run. apache2ctl status retuns: Looking up localhost14:59
biebMaking HTTP connection to localhost14:59
biebAlert!: Unable to connect to remote host.14:59
bieblynx: Can't access startfile http://localhost/server-status14:59
bieb'www-browser -dump http://localhost:80/server-status' failed.14:59
biebMaybe you need to install a package providing www-browser or you14:59
biebneed to adjust the APACHE_LYNX variable in /etc/apache2/envvars14:59
biebsorry about that.. wasnt trying to flood15:01
gurkiim encountering a weird bug when trying to use a bluetooth headset in teamspeak: whenever i input voice (be it via the bt headsets integrated mic or a dedicated microphone) the audio profile the headset uses will go to "disabled"15:02
gurkiwhen running windows the profile will go to the headset one, providing shitty audio quality, but working overall15:02
gurkiis there a workaround?15:02
biebI have entered my webserver issue into pastebin, so I dont flood the channel. https://pastebin.com/CMiXMBmr15:10
nonix4Is livepatch supposed to work on 20.04? Haven't observed it apply any patches.15:13
pai think i missed the answer.. how to enable core dumps?15:13
nonix4pa: that is a faq, and the answer is related to apport.service and /var/crash/15:15
paaha i see15:15
nonix4cat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern # <-- works on most Linuxes for figuring out how they are handled, including ubuntu15:16
paso temporarily disabling appport via systemd should do the trick right?15:18
nonix4That or preferably figuring out how to configure it. Depending on your use case, obviously. Also see "man 5 core" for generic info.15:19
nonix4(manpage is not ubuntu-specific)15:19
oerhekspa check unlimit -a | grep core, if it shows unlimited, coredump is enabled for your current session.15:20
oerheksYou can install systemd-coredump to control dump file deeply, like: size, compressionā€¦. https://blog.monsterxx03.com/2017/07/15/enable-coredump-on-ubuntu-16.04/15:20
paoerheks, it was 0, i set to unlimited, but files are not showing, hence i asked15:20
oerhekssame info as for 20.0415:20
biebAny ideas or where to look next on my apache issue?15:20
pait seems that apport might be intercepting those15:20
nonix4pa: yes, by default handled by apport. Which does have a configuration file.15:22
oerhekscheck the systemd part?15:23
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nonix4pa: fyi systemd-coredump is a "Replaces: core-dump-handler" package, which means it will also uninstall apport15:25
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JontaI've had "Temporary failure in name resolution" for several days now. Pinging google.com gives me that, but 0.0.0.0 goes through without packet loss. Added both 0.0.0.0 and 8.8.8.8 as nameservers to /etc/resolve.conf - Next step in troubleshooting?15:32
oerheks0.0.0.0 nameserver?15:34
oerhekslolz15:34
oerheksread the docs again?15:34
JontaNow that you say that, I think I misremembered, and mistook that for CloudFlare's, which is actually 1.1.1.1, huh? :)15:35
oerheksdo not edit /etc/resolve.conf , use your networkmanager?15:35
JontaAight15:36
coconutcorrect, and 1.1.1.2 filters mallware domains away too15:36
uzumakiI'm wondering if it's possible to contribute code to Ubuntu?15:56
uzumakior is it just testing and reporting bugs and joining in on the discussions?15:56
lotuspsychje!contribute | uzumaki start here15:57
ubottuuzumaki start here: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu15:57
lotuspsychjeuzumaki: see also #ubuntu-discuss & ubuntu-devel to connect with community members15:58
oerhekslots of choice; translate, packaging, testing ( highly important), publish a blog or article to omgubuntu or better ..15:58
lotuspsychje+115:58
uzumakilooking at it right now lotuspsychje oerheks , thanks!16:01
oerheksuzumaki, have fun?16:08
uzumakilots actually, I've been using ubuntu since 14.04, have never looked into the project itself, starting up16:09
JontaOh networking. So confusing, so many possible solutions, so many solutions that look like they're out of date16:09
oerheksnetworkmanager, or netplan16:10
oerheks!netplan16:11
ubottuNetplan is a network configuration abstraction renderer which uses YAML descriptions of a network to work with either a NetworkManager or Systemd-networkd "renderer". More information at https://netplan.io/16:11
uzumakiI love how netplan has simplified things so much16:11
JontaTrying to add 8.8.8.8 in NetworkManager -> IPv4 Settings now16:11
oerheksyes, it is a breeze, for (large) deployment16:11
nonix4uzumaki: uh, with two half-implemented renderers, how can you call it simple?16:11
uzumakioerheks, true, I'm mostly involved with cloud based stuff, where netplan is my best friend16:11
ViperXL75ehh... Long story short, I'm trying to enable old SMBv1 on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. How?16:12
uzumakinonix4, I'm not aware of the implementation details, I've been involved mostly with using it. much better than modifying the /etc/network files16:13
oerheksSMB1 is disabled by default: can still be enabled via a /etc/samba/smb.conf config16:13
oerhekshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes#Samba_4.1116:13
nonix4uzumaki: well it works well for me if all 3 of the following are true 1. sticking to renderer: networkd, 2: a server without desktop junk, 3: staying away from network configurations which require deep hierarchies16:15
uzumakinonix4, that's totally true!16:15
uzumakihierarchies look beautiful on paper but are so painful and nasty16:16
oerheks[global] section: client min protocol = CORE # save and sudo systemctl restart smbd.service16:16
TJ-Remmina in 20.04 on Xubuntu; trying to extract a stored password for an RDP connection. The connection file (~/.local/share/remmina/XXXXXX.remmina) only shows "password=." and no hash but cannot locate where the hash is being found from. Any ideas?16:16
ViperXL75ehh wut?16:16
ViperXL75protocol = core ?16:17
ViperXL75sec16:17
ViperXL75I was banging my head in the wall with "lanman auth = yes" and "ntlm auth = yes"16:17
oerheksTJ-, https://github.com/c-goosen/decode-remmina-passwords or https://village.oyaore.com/home/post/2523/recover-lost-saved-remmina-remote-desktop-client-password16:18
nonix4uzumaki: example of case 3 / too deep layering with modern components: load-balanced multihomed wireguard tunnels of ipv4 overlay network over ipv6 (6rd) on top of ipv4 (dhcp)16:18
uzumakinonix4, lol yes16:19
TJ-oerheks: I know, I use something similar, but they except the password hash in the XXXX.remmina file and for this one connection there is no hash in there!16:19
TJ-s/except/expect/16:19
nonix4(can be done manually but royal PITA with any configuration system)16:19
uzumakiis there a builtin pastebin utility to dump command outputs in ubuntu 18.04?16:19
uzumakinonix4, xD yes16:19
TJ-!info pastebinit | uzumaki16:20
ubottuuzumaki: pastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.1-1 (focal), package size 13 kB, installed size 152 kB16:20
uzumakiTJ-, thanks!16:20
nonix4uzumaki: ... any other modern approaches at medium-area-networks that don't depend on internet actually existing? :)16:22
uzumakinonix4, I don't think they do, multihoming keeps on becoming more and more of a thing now.. also, let's not forget edge clouds16:23
JontaI've set NetworkManager back to "Automatic (DHCP)", deleted the manual one I tried, and added 4 additional DNS servers (8.8.8.8, 1.1.1.1, 8.8.4.4, 1.1.1.2), and saved that. netplan has the configuration shown on netplan.io (version: 2, renderer: NetworkManager). What do I do now? Wait for 5, 10, 60 minutes to ping again? Restart the machine?16:26
Jonta"Destination Host Unreachable" on pinging 1.1.1.1, but 0% packet loss on pinging 8.8.8.8. Pinging google.com still gives me "Temporary failure in name resolution". So I'm connected to the internet, but DNS fails. Even thoughā€¦ 8.8.8.8 connects and is a DNS?16:30
ViperXL75Strangely enough [global] section: "client min protocol = CORE"  didn't help to get my machines to use SMB1. I tried "client min protocol = NT1" but that didn't help either. I'm running Ubuntu 20.04 LTS16:33
TJ-Jonta: check the resolver in use with "systemd-resolve status" or "resolvectl --status"16:34
JontaTJ-: Checkingā€¦16:34
TJ-Jonta: the above command(s) will show the DNS resolver used for each link (Interface) and may give a clue as to why it is failing16:34
TJ-Jonta: typo, "resolvctl status"16:35
TJ-Jonta: I think I got the "--" in the wrong places :D16:35
JontaIn order: "status: resolve call failed: Unit dbus-org.freedesktop.resolve1.service not found." on both16:35
TJ-Jonta: So " systemd-resolve --status" or "resolvectl status" :)16:36
TJ-Jonta: if those fail it suggests the name resolver is not running16:36
JontaMy mistake:16:36
Jonta"resolvectl status" gave me "Failed to get global data: Unit dbus-org.freedesktop.resolve1.service not found."16:37
TJ-Jonta: if they do fail to give good info, then check the service is running: "systemctl status systemd-resolved" where you would want to see "Active: active (running) since ..."16:37
JontaI see. I don't know what the name resolver *is* ("It's the one that resolves names!"), but that would make sense16:37
JontaCheckingā€¦16:37
TJ-Jonta: Yes, it is the local PC service that handles DNS look-ups for all applications16:37
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JontaHmkay. I'll read up on that later. Maybe. Gah networking is confusing. OK. I got this:16:39
TJ-Jonta: which Ubuntu release is this? if it's an older release NetworkManager could be using dnsmasq as the resolver but most recent releases are using systemd-resolved16:39
Jonta20.04 LTS16:39
TJ-Jonta: so it should be systemd-resolved16:39
JontaActive: inactive (dead)16:39
TJ-Jonta: if the service isn't shown as running then try "sudo systemctl restart systemd-resolved" then check again with "systemctl status systemd-resolved" for it "running"16:40
JontaTryingā€¦16:40
Psil0Cybinhey i got a question i installed an icon theme for xfce4, everything is working perfect but hwen i open thunar my home directory16:41
Psil0Cybinall folders are changed except pictures, i cleaned the cache16:41
Psil0Cybinnd nothing it shows all new icons but Pictures shows the gnome folder icon how can i fix this because im OCD16:41
Jontasudo systemctl restart systemd-resolved.service resulted in Active: active (running). Still the same on ping, but I'm guessing it takes at least 60 seconds or so16:42
TJ-Jonta: that won't affect a ping which is only dealing with network connectivity; but now your DNS lookups should succeed, e.g. "resolvectl query iam.tj"16:43
Jonta"example.com resolve call failed: No appropriate name servers or networks for name found"16:43
arvinoidshello world16:44
ViperXL75xD16:44
Jontaarvinoids: Seeing your message16:44
ViperXL75hello arvinoids16:45
TJ-Jonta: in which case the network config is broken still; can you show us "resolvectl status | nc 5.39.93.71 9999" and tell us the URL16:46
JontaFetchingā€¦16:46
JontaReturns nothing16:47
TJ-Jonta: it should eventually show a termbin.com URL16:48
TJ-Jonta: is the PC with this problem the one you're on IRC from?16:48
JontaIt returned nothing pretty quickly16:48
JontaNo16:48
JontaI don't know what nc does with that IP, but it's not an IP I see when running just "resolvectl status"16:49
TJ-Jonta: aha! OK, so now let's try to analyse things more: do "ip route show" and tell me if you see a "default via ..."16:49
JontaDoingā€¦16:49
TJ-Jonta: that IPv4 address is the termbin.com server - I gave that since that system cannot resolve DNS currently, but seems like it also have a connectivity/routing issue16:49
Jontadefault via 192.0.0.5 dev eno1 proto static metric 2010016:49
Jonta(And 2 more lines. 192.0.0.5 was something I put into NetworkManager not too many minutes ago)16:50
TJ-Jonta: is 192.0.0.5 your local internet gateway/router ? If you're on a GNU/Linux PC for IRC do the same command and compare results16:51
TJ-Jonta: but it looks very wrong; I'd expect something like 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.0.25416:51
JontaHm, I don't know. I just guessed at that IP as one of the settings16:51
TJ-Jonta: what OS is the device you're on IRC from?16:52
JontaI'm on macOS for IRC, but could still try16:52
TJ-Jonta: OK ... on the Mac can you check what the gateway is set to in the network settings?16:52
Jontadefault via 10.0.0.138 dev en116:52
TJ-Jonta:aha!16:52
TJ-Jonta: lets' manually getting the problem PC set up manually so it has some connectivity then fix the actual NetworkManager entry16:53
TJ-Jonta: so "sudo ip route del default via 192.0.0.5"16:53
JontaSudoingā€¦16:53
TJ-Jonta: then "sudo ip route add default via 10.0.0.138 dev eno1"16:54
JontaOK. That seemes to've deleted the default. (Default gateway?)16:54
TJ-Jonta: now your pings will work16:54
ViperXL75Turns out that I needed to add these 3 lines to the Global section of smb.conf.   client min protocol = NT1 , server min protocol = NT1 , ntlm auth = ntlmv1-permitted      (damn Sonos speakers)16:55
JontaHah! That's what you think! But what if my computer says "Error: Nexthop has invalid gateway."?16:55
Jonta(The Ubuntu-box is on a WiFi-repeater)16:55
TJ-Jonta: OK, that's fine, we have more work to do :)16:55
Jonta(The mac box has WiFi itself)16:55
JontaOh, ok16:55
Jonta(And yes, I didn't try a ping yet)16:56
TJ-Jonta: let's try putting that PC on the same sub-net now: "sudo ip addr add 10.0.0.201/24 dev eno1"16:56
JontaDone16:56
TJ-Jonta: now "ping 1.1.1.1" should work16:56
Jontaping: connect: Network is unreachable16:57
TJ-Jonta: Grrrr!16:57
JontaI agree16:57
TJ-Jonta: I think that the NetworkManager config is causing some confusion that is breaking things so let's disable it for now16:58
JontaWith netplan?16:58
TJ-Jonta: do "nmcli con" which'll list the connections with active connections in green16:58
JontaDoingā€¦16:58
TJ-Jonta: you will see one or two (ignore any virbr* type bridges)16:58
Jonta116:59
TJ-Jonta: you should see one that is the Wifi, so now do "nmcli con down "name of the connection"16:59
TJ-Jonta: if the connection name has spaces in you need to surround it with quote marks, or else start typing it then tab-complete16:59
JontaIt's plugged in as a wired network, via TP-cable to the repeater17:00
TJ-Jonta: okay, ignore my mention of Wifi -everything else stands17:00
JontaSuccessfully deactivated17:00
TJ-Jonta: has any device successfully worked from that repeater?17:00
JontaYes. That very computer, not 72 hours ago17:01
JontaReset, restarted and unplugged the repeater as well17:01
TJ-Jonta: I'm wondering if the repeater has lost the link if so17:01
TJ-Jonta: OK, well, you've disabled the connection so now "ip route show" and "ip addr show dev eno1" ought not to show any of those 192* addresses17:02
JontaMaybe. It's got 4 prominent status lights, but only 3 were green, the last one off17:02
Jontaip route show - Shows nothing. Yes17:02
TJ-Jonta: you should only see those 10.0.0.*/24 addresses we manually added17:02
TJ-Jonta: so NM may have interferred - let's try again now its disabled17:03
Jonta(Also can't log in to the WiFi repeater. Someone else might've put a password on it. Seems unlikely, but possible)17:03
JontaHang on. Doing "ip addr show dev eno1"17:03
TJ-Jonta: "sudo ip addr add 10.0.0.201/24 dev eno1" then "sudo ip route add default via 10.0.0.138 dev eno1"17:03
TJ-Jonta: OK... you'll possibly not see any addresses but maybe the .201 remained17:04
JontaOK, did some stuff:17:04
Jontaip addr show dev eno1: Shows 2 lines, the 2nd one with 2 IPv6-addresses (although, 6 sections instead of 4?), one of which is ff:ff:ff etc17:05
JontaAnd I ran the last 2 sudo-commands17:05
TJ-Jonta: IPv6 are 128 bits long, so you'll see something like "inet6 fe80::6932:c56f:db51:f784/64"17:06
TJ-Jonta: after those last 2 commands the PC ought to have some connectivity to the gateway if the repeater is working - try "ping 10.0.0.138"17:07
JontaTryingā€¦17:07
TJ-Jonta: also, on your Mac try "ping 10.0.0.201"17:07
JontaLinuxbox gives "Destination Host Unreachable"17:08
Jontamac-box gives "Request timeout"17:08
TJ-Jonta: looks like a repeater issue then17:08
JontaHm, okay. What did we just try doing? I assume you have a sketch of a network map over there17:09
AtlenohenHello17:10
JontaAtlenohen: Hi17:10
TJ-Jonta: well, we tried to add a valid IPv4 address and the default route to the internet gateway device manually17:11
AtlenohenWeird GSmartControl saves report to /root17:11
TJ-Jonta: I deduced the valid IPv4 from the gateway reported by your Mac17:11
TJ-Jonta: I'm assuming the local subnet is 10.0.0.0/24 and the gateway is on 10.0.0.13817:12
JontaTJ-: Hmm. Where do I learn this stuff up to the level we tried today? I have the impression that network stuff is very quickly "Here: Read this 300 page manual", which is not going to happen17:12
TJ-Jonta: it's very structured with lots of layers so generally you learn the bits you need, when you need!17:12
JontaOK. But. How? :)17:13
AtlenohenHow do I force run dolphin with sudo?17:13
TJ-Jonta: It's a HUGE subject area so read and experiment with non-vital systems is the best way :)17:15
JontaTJ-: Hmh. Got a suggestion for an overview of the subject matter? The layers you mentioned?17:16
JontaSeems I could've saved us a lot of time by trying to connect to the repeater, and thereby see Android's "Connected, no internet"17:22
TJ-Jonta: Maybe too comprehensive but seems to cover a lot of ground well https://www.actualtechmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/CUMULUS-NETWORKS-Linux101.pdf17:23
JontaThank you17:23
legreffierthis pdf is dangerously outdated regarding network on ubuntu system. by a few years.17:27
TJ-legreffier: most are17:31
TJ-legreffier: but we are talking about understanding the layers, not the specifics17:32
TJ-And, answering my own question about Remmina connection profiles (~/.local/share/remmina/XXXXX.remmina files) only showing "password=." the "." (dot) means "stored in gnome-keyring. To view those needs seahorse AKA "Passwords and Keys" navigate to Passwords > Login, select the login and right-click to bring up the context menu, choose Properties and to the right of the Password field press the key17:35
TJ-icon to unhide the password.17:35
egynice! i always wondered about the "password=."18:00
JontaSo now the Linux-box has WiFi18:01
JontaBut still "Temporary failure in name resolution"18:01
relipsewhy am I getting this message:  WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!18:02
marchesiniHi folks18:13
Jontamarchesini: Hi18:20
egyjonta: there's something wrong in your DNS resoltuion. can you `ping dns.google.com` ?18:50
egyrelipse: it's because you have SSH'd into that host before, and accepted to trust their fingerprint (i.e you acknowledged you verify that this host is who you think is). is this a home computer ?18:51
Jontaegy: Pingingā€¦18:52
egyCTRL+C18:52
JontaTemporary failure in name resolution18:52
egyaha, your DNS server is messed up. i don't know your setup though18:53
JontaWhat can I do to communicate my setup to you? :)18:53
egyi'll be afk, but you can check `/etc/resolv.conf/` to find out what is your DNS server (the computer host who is responsible to change domain names like dns.google.com to their real addresses)18:54
JontaIt's back to 127.0.0.5318:55
egyalso check if you've internet connectivity first, try `ping 8.8.8.8`18:55
egyafk for now18:55
Jonta0% packet loss on pinging 8.8.8.818:55
asmcintI've got a really weird problem. Using 20.04 basically as a means to have my computer usable while I await a resolution for some other weird crap I won't go into, but for some reason, whenever I type a "b", a "g" is automatically inserted, and every now and again text fields and interfaces behave as though I'm constantly tapping the left arrow key,19:03
asmcinteven though I'm not. Keyboard itself is known good. Anyone know what's up?19:03
asmcintEr just to clarify, typing "b" produces "bg"19:04
scythefwd2while kb may be known good.. have you tried a different kb or layout?19:05
asmcintOnly other keyboard I've got is dead as a doornail. I can try a different layout real quick.19:05
scythefwd2that sucks.. I forget how.. gimme a second, but there is a way in terminal to see what ascii is being sent on press and release19:06
scythefwd2might be interesting to see what it's sending19:07
geniixev19:07
scythefwd2thanks.. been a while since I have been able to use Linux.. I'm rusty as hell.. and wasn't particularly skilled to begin with19:07
asmcintYeah because different layouts are producing the same issue.19:07
genii( run in Konsole, if there's stuck keys it will just keep scrolling stuff)19:07
scythefwd2I'm JUST finding a distro (give ya 3 guess which one lol) that works with my laptop properly.. so far19:08
scythefwd2hopefully a very easy question.. is there a way to move the show applications button to the top of the bar vs the bottom?19:09
asmcintxev seems really finnicky, but it showed separate keypress events for both b and g when pressing b.19:10
asmcintCouldnt keep it working long enough to test arrow keys19:11
asmcintBehavior has now just spread to "x" which will now also produce a "c"19:13
asmcintSo "x" becomes "xc"19:13
scythefwd2is this a laptop or a desktop?  Not that it matters TOO much.. seems like you have a kb thats on it's way out...19:14
asmcintDesktop. Keyboard was bought like a couple months ago.19:14
scythefwd2huh.. If you were close.. I'd loan ya a kb for testing purposes.. one that could be used as a truck ramp (no flex ever)19:15
JontaHow did you determine that this kb is known to be good?19:15
scythefwd2I think @jonta is picking up what I"m thinking19:15
scythefwd2sorry.. Jonta19:15
asmcintHooked it up to my PS4 and typed in the web browser there.19:15
scythefwd2on your ps4.. will it let you hit two keys simultaniously and register them?19:16
scythefwd2or does it require one key to be released before the other gets registered?19:16
Jonta(Hmm. So probably not spilled fizzy pop in it. I don't know how responsive web browsers in PS4 are)19:16
JontaOh yes, maybe an n-key-rollover issue?19:17
asmcintIt should? Gimme a hot minute and I'll get back to you on that. It's also been a few days and I didn't do it to troubleshoot this issue, but just for convenience.19:17
scythefwd2is it a membrane kb?... vs mechanical key?  Once had a logitech that would cause all sorts of mary hobb when I used it on my lap due to flex.. and I suspect the keys were shorting as it flexed.. worked perfectly on a table (not saying is the case.. just stating I've had new kb's that had issues.. and it's kind of where my brain is going with this.. and I could be way off)19:19
scythefwd2and in a copletely different vein of conversation.. Kinda wanting to put a temp, cpu usage, etc on my desktop.  I know about conky.. has there been anything better released in the last.. 3 years ?19:20
asmcintWouldn't let me type this time but I got a taste of the arrow key issue. Probably a short somewhere due to accumulated gunk. I'll have to clean it.19:22
JontaKeyboards are essential. I recommend having multiple backups19:22
asmcintI used to! They kinda just died in storage.19:22
semitonesHello. Is there a way that my grub install is indeed verified/signed for UEFI secure boot?19:22
asmcintAnywho, thanks guys.19:22
JontaRest In Pepperoni (as I read in a YouTube-comment today)19:23
semitonesI don't seem to have "shim" installed -- that would seem to be a problem19:23
scythefwd2semitones.. I had to register the key with my uefi.. but it did seem to boot secure boot fine.. I did have problems, but only when trying to chainload the windows bootloader with grub219:23
oerhekssemitones, is this about that surface image?19:24
scythefwd2almost like secureboot didnt like it.  I could boot directly using the efi entry to windows or ubuntu.. but couldnt chain load19:24
semitonesscythefwd2, did you ever resolve it? I might need to find out how to register the key with uefi19:25
semitonesoerheks, yes, unfortunately still19:25
scythefwd2semi.. I decided that it wasnt worth pressing f9 every time I wanted to boot to windows.. so I just turned secure boot off19:27
scythefwd2I had jsut spent 3 hours fixing my os install due to not just the problems with secureboot.. but the install did something to my tpm, and erased the key to my bitlocker.. it was just painful getting that all sorted19:28
scythefwd2BUT my ubuntu never hiccup'd booting when secure boot was enabled.. it was just messing with my windows boot19:28
scythefwd2so I dont see it being much a problem if I wasn't sticking with a dual boot system.. the surface may be different though.. MS isn't known to play too nice.. no matter how much they've warmed up19:29
semitonesheh19:30
semitoneswell it seems like other people have done it, which gives me hope19:30
semitonesbut it also seems like it went easily for them19:30
semitonesmeanwhile, I can't apt update because I get the error E: The repository 'http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal Release' no longer has a Release file.19:31
semitonesactually there is an earlier error19:34
semitones                                                                       19:34
semitonesErr:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal Release19:34
semitones  Cannot initiate the connection to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:67c:1562::15). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) Cannot initiate the connection to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:67c:1562::18). - connect (101: Network is unreachable)19:34
semitonesseems odd, since I'm reaching IRC and the internet19:35
semitoneshttps://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/us.archive.ubuntu.com19:35
semitonessays that it's just me19:35
mihiI cannot even resolve us.archive.ubuntu.com. BTW, can you try us.releases.ubuntu.com? And is IPv6 working in general for you?19:37
mihi(archive.ubuntu.com is for old releases, and I don't think that focal is old yet)19:37
semitonesI think I'm on ipv4 only19:38
semitonesI can change sources.lst19:38
mihiso it is weird that your DNS lookup returned an IPv6 address.19:38
semitonesnot sure how it got to be wrong like that19:38
semitonesyeah that's pretty strange19:38
mihior just manually pick a mirror from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors that is near you and works for you19:39
ubuntuuser1Hi I've asked this a few times but no response, my laptop upon installing ubuntu refuses to connect to any wifi unless tethered, does anyone know of anyway to check why that is?19:40
hggdhif it helps any, us.archive.ubuntu.com is accessible for me on both IPv4 and IPv619:40
semitonesmihi, now I'm getting this: Err:6 http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal Release19:40
semitones  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.247 80]19:40
semitoneshggdh, it does help narrow it down19:41
tomreynubuntuuser1: identify the chipset by running: lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller' | nc termbin.com 999919:41
hggdhalso, archive.ubuntu.com is the main server for current releases; old-releases.ubuntu.com is the archive for EOL releases19:41
semitonesI can ping 91.189.88.24719:42
scythefwd2well got that changed.. they didn't make that easy did they19:42
scythefwd2sorry,  my dock application drawer position19:42
tomreynubuntuuser1: once you know it, search the web for the current driver situation for it. chances are you have one which requires additional firmware or a proprietary or badly maintained driver.19:42
scythefwd2semi.. who's your dns server?19:43
semitonesscythefwd2, I was thinking that might be the problem19:43
mihihggdh, thanks. I messed that up from Debian which uses a different convention. Sorry semitones19:44
semitonesI have a pi-hole set up; maybe something is happening on it19:44
hggdhmihi: no prob :-)19:44
scythefwd2see if you can change your dns to say 8.8.8.8 and try again.. if it is.. I'd bet it's your pihole causing issues19:44
semitonesI temporarily changed dns in my router to 1.1.1.119:46
scythefwd2oh.. question for the whole room.. I was going to say those more experienced than me.. but that pretty much is the whole room ... live update.. is that doing something like kexec?19:46
scythefwd2livepatch*19:46
hggdhscythefwd2: no. kexec transfers control to a new kernel, while live-update dynamically replaces parts of the current kernel19:47
semitonesthanks19:47
semitonesthat fixed it19:48
scythefwd2so.. if I'm using a module.. say for my "special" screen (touch screen.. and it's finniky).. does that stop working while being updated.. how does that work?19:48
scythefwd2just curious..19:48
tomreynubuntuuser1: maybe part of why you asked this a few times is that you never respond. :)19:48
hggdhscythefwd2: if it is a module provided with the kernel package, it should -- probably and perhaps -- keep on working. If it is an external module... who knows?19:50
scythefwd2makes sense.. I'm not sure who provides it.. and honestly I'd probably not notice even if it did stop working during the patch.. I almost never use the touchscreen .. just trying to wrap my head around it19:50
egyhi Jonta, have you got it fixed ? you should configure your gatway (or router) with DNS server like 8.8.8.8 or 1.1.1.119:51
egyi'm assuming the gateway (or router) is 127.0.0.5319:51
scythefwd2egy.. his dns blackhole is probably the issue.. I suspect its forward lookup zone is 1.1.1.1 already.. but it's getting killed in the pihole19:51
egyoh neat! thanks for debugging it scythefwd219:52
scythefwd2not full dns.. jsut the dns query for his repos and a few others.. once he tried 1.1.1.1 directly.. all was good to go19:52
scythefwd2you got to it faster than I did though.. so props man19:52
egyugh i was afk, but yeah glad i helped :)19:53
semitonesOk, I just installed shim, shim-signed19:53
semitonesgrub automatically installed grub to /boot/efi19:53
scythefwd2oh, wait.. getting coversations mixed up.. egy:didnt help Jonta.. was able to help semitones19:53
semitonesyeah! thanks again19:53
semitonesI need to fix pi hole, but disabled it for the moment19:53
pavlushkaHow to install a pip module on this location /home/user/.local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/ ?19:54
scythefwd2you running a whitelist or a blacklist19:54
egy:)19:54
scythefwd2same solution though19:54
semitonesI'm going to restart and see if grub works with secure boot now that I have installed shim and shim-signed (not sure how they got removed)19:54
tomreynpavlushka: pip3 --user install <package>19:55
tomreynpavlushka: that's assuming your have pythoon 3.6.something installed and pip3 pointing to it.19:55
pavlushkayep19:56
scythefwd2hggdh:  to paraphrase.. it installs and then redirects to the patched version.. not quite booting to a new kernel like kexec does.. but a really similar principle... is that accurate?19:56
ViperXL75because my partition was read-only i am following a guide to make it read-write. I managed to unmount it using umount. But how do i mount it back again?  In FSTAB is was mounted like this: UUID=20105665105641C8   /mnt/DaBoss     ntfs-3g rw,nls=utf819:59
scythefwd2that fstab looks to be read write already20:00
scythefwd2but mount /mnt/DaBoss should re-mount right?20:00
ViperXL75Yes. The thing is, I've had that line in my FSTAB throughout multiple Ubuntu upgrades. Even went through Debian.20:00
ViperXL75Now i came to Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and all of a sudden it mounted as read-only.20:01
scythefwd2huh..20:01
ViperXL75right before unmounting it i saw that it was filled to 100%  (kinda downloaded too much junk i guess)20:01
ViperXL75So if that's the problem i kinda need to create some room maybe before mounting it again through fstab?    (or am is peaking complete crap now?)20:02
ViperXL75*speaking20:02
scythefwd2i dunno20:03
ViperXL75just 'mount /mnt/DaBoss' is sufficient?20:03
ViperXL75no bla-bla-bla behind it because it's NTFS?20:03
oerheksViperXL75, wrong approach, run a fsck with a live iso https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting20:03
scythefwd2yeah.. if I remember right it looks to fstab for the mount point, and if it exists it uses that fstab entry20:03
ViperXL75hmm20:03
ViperXL75oerheks: my linux is booted and running. It's just 1 drive thats on read-only. Can i just do fsck from within ubuntu?20:04
scythefwd2dirty journal oerheks?20:04
scythefwd2as long as its not / I'd think so20:04
Jordan_UViperXL75: You should *NOT* be allowing ntlmv1 authentication: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2793313/security-guidance-for-ntlmv1-and-lm-network-authentication20:04
ViperXL75Jordan_U: lost me. wut?20:05
scythefwd2Jordan_U  how could you tell he was?20:05
Jordan_Uaway20:06
scythefwd2I mean, he's not wrong, ntlmv2 is better and ntlm is highly discouraged by pretty much any security guideline and baseline..20:06
Jordan_UViperXL75: scythefwd2: I was looking through your past messages to get context on your question and I saw that you allowed ntlmv1 earlier.20:07
scythefwd2ah, I missed that.. thanks20:07
scythefwd2I was like.. all I saw was the fstab.. and if you got that from there.. teach me!20:07
ViperXL75oh u mean the SMB1 story.20:07
ViperXL75:S20:07
Jordan_UViperXL75: That article from microsoft is from 2013. ntlmv1 was insecure then, it's REALLY insecure now.20:07
oerheksoh that20:08
ViperXL75yeah... I know I'm gonna be burning in linux hell for that one.20:08
ViperXL75I just kinda realized that a premium brand (Sonos) decides to just stick to SMB1.   :S20:08
ViperXL75about fsck20:12
ViperXL75this "fsck /dev/sdb1" gives this line only "fsck from util-linux 2.34"20:13
oerheksntfs-fix, whatever20:13
ViperXL75Ran as Root20:13
ViperXL75ohhh20:13
zutatViperXL75: are you sure fsck finished?20:14
BoohHi. Is there a problem with ca.archive.ubuntu.com for apt-update?20:14
Jordan_UViperXL75: For your ntfs volume, I'd recommend a chkdsk from a Windows OS. There is no real fsck for ntfs on linux.20:14
ViperXL75well upon the remark of oerheks i realized that i'm trying to do fsck on a ntfs drive.  Not my smartest moment.  :(20:15
ducasseBooh: try #ubuntu-mirrors20:16
scythefwd2booh.. i just had issues too.. i had to change dns to a public dns20:16
tpw_rulesis this about us.archive.ubuntu.com?20:16
scythefwd2i was using verizon20:16
tpw_rulesit's broken for me too on my university's network20:16
oerheksmaybe your mirror is in sync, try again in a few minutes?20:16
oerhekshttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors whole usa is 6 hrs or more behind..20:18
oerheksNepal Telecomhttp128 KbpsUp to date20:19
oerheksgrinn20:19
ViperXL75well you guys got me on the right path. I did a bit of a dirty 'ntfsfix'. Then i remounted it and now i can read-write. Only gonna be running it for tonight. Tomorrow I'll just reformat the damn thing from NTFS -> EXT4.20:23
ViperXL75like i said. It's just a 'download-junk-and-delete' for my bigger raid array.20:23
UblxGood evening. I've a problem with my ssh configuration. I have 2 ssh connections I cannot use. I get an error 'Too many authentication failures' but I can login without any problems with another user on the same system.21:02
UblxAny ideas how I can solve this?21:02
ferzUblx: what you read on /var/log/auth.log21:03
Ublxferz: nothing related to ssh and nothing is added when i try to get a connection again.21:04
ferzUblx: using ssh -vvvv yournick@host what output says?21:05
UblxI have some keys generated and some of them do still work but some does not work. And for new ssh connections I always have the above error.21:06
UblxWith 4x v?21:06
ferzman ssh21:06
Ublxit seems ssh tries to find a public key and cannot find one ... but I just entered ssh user@server and there's no key for this one.21:08
UblxI knew -verbose therefore I was surprised21:08
UblxHm, that's the same debug messages for a ssh connection I've a key listed but that doesn't work. It worked nice for some months but immediately it stopped and I couldn't get it work anymore.21:12
ferzWhat is kind of key have you listed on your server?21:13
ferzIt could be a deprecated one.21:14
mra90I have E297: Write error in swap file which seems to be the result of filesystem full21:15
mra90while the filesystem is not full21:15
mra90in fact only 7% is occupied21:15
mra90what is wrong?21:15
kiwiirchai can ubuntu be used without systemd?21:15
Bashing-ommra90: Terminal commands ' df -h ; df -i ' shows what ?21:16
oerhekskiwiirc, interesting, what would you want to use instead?21:16
kiwiircjust regular init21:16
kiwiirci refuse to run programs like systemd21:16
mra90Bashing-om, it shows several locations21:17
mra90some indeed are 100% but the place I want to edit is only 7% occupied21:17
mra90 /dev/loop7                                                               43M   43M     0 100% /snap/21:17
Ublxferz: I can use ssh user@server on other accounts on the same machine and with other computers as well. It's not the server, it's my Ubuntu login.21:17
mra90but I want to edit a file from /home21:18
Bashing-ommra90: Pastebin those results to remove all doubts :D // loops are generaly snaps and will always then be 100% .21:18
mra90and /home as I said is only 7%21:18
mra90Bashing-om, well these folder paths contain a lot of customer confidential names21:18
mra90like second name i.e21:19
mra90can you trast me the location is 7% full?21:19
mra90E297: Write error in swap file21:19
mra90E303: Unable to open swap file for "chromeos/config/x86_64/chromeos21:19
mra90this is the error message I get when try to run vim21:20
Bashing-ommra90: Sure - /home might be 7% - but there are other partitions that might be full - say for instance /boot filled up with old kernels or such.21:20
oerhekschromebook/crouton?21:20
mra90chromebook21:21
Bashing-ommra90: Sorry - we would know little about chromebook internals.21:21
mra90Bashing-om, only those whic hstart with /snap are 100% full21:21
ferzUblx: sure, you have right. If you cannot check kind of keys and you don't want to verify if you have such keys on your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on remote host matching your client keys, then don't worry.  God will fix it for you one day or another.21:21
mra90no its not chromebook interla21:22
mra90its on a ubuntu21:22
mra90cross build for chromebook21:22
Bashing-ommra90: What shows ' free ' ?21:22
mra9015216368 avail21:22
mra90Bashing-om, ^21:23
mihimra90, I would first make sure that you did not set a different swap directory in your .vimrc or elsewhere (":set directory" in an open vim where you have no file open)21:23
mihiand then try if you can "touch" a new file in the same directory, but with the swap file name (i.e .chromeos.swp)21:23
mra90mihi, sure i can create new file21:24
Bashing-ommra90: ^ sounds reasonale - thanks mihi :D21:24
mra90however when I hit tab key it complains21:24
mra90I mean tab in the ocnsole21:24
mra90console*21:24
mra90rm aa-bash: cannot create temp file for here-document: No space left on device21:24
mra90touch aaa.txt succeeded21:25
mra90then i wanted to remove it21:25
mra90i type aa + press a tab to autocompelte21:25
mra90and got that error message back21:25
mra90any idea?21:25
mihitry touch /tmp/abcd and /var/tmp/abcd21:25
Ublxferz: Maybe I didn't explained well: I have a server where I do not have any key generated. I just want to login without a key but it's not possible. But on all other systems I can login.21:26
UblxThis is my main problem.21:26
mra90mihi, both succeeded21:26
UblxIn addition to that I can no more login to one my key generated ssh logins, too.21:26
mihimra90 and you are sure that both "df" and "df -i" show free space/inodes for /home, /tmp, /var and / (in case they are separate partitions)?21:28
mihiI don't know where bash may create tempfiles, but I assume it should be one of these places...21:29
mra90df /home -h right21:30
mra90?21:30
mra90or rather df -h /home21:30
mihi"df /home" and "df -i /home"21:30
mihior you can just do "df / /home /tmp /var" and "df -i / /home /tmp /var"21:31
mra90yes it is full21:33
mra90now I need to locate big files21:33
mra90but its hard to search when there is no space left21:33
mihiwhich partition is full?21:33
mra90 /home21:34
mra90I did df /home21:34
mra90df /home21:34
mra90Filesystem     1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on21:34
mra90 /dev/nvme0n1p2 244568380 232300668         0 100% /21:34
mihiah ok that is your / partition (root partition)21:35
mra90yes21:35
mihiI'd first check 'du -hs /tmp /var/log' if either of that is huge :)21:35
mra90sudo du -hs /tmp /var/log21:36
mra90100K/tmp21:36
mra90906M/var/log21:36
mra90logs I ran wipe21:36
mra90can*21:36
Napk1nhey im trying to flush dns in ubuntu 18.04 but sudo systemd-resolve --flush-caches seems to fail21:36
Napk1ndosnt recognize the command21:37
Napk1nis there anything else I can try?21:37
Bashing-ommra90: ' cd /home ; sudo du -sx * | sort -n ' to show file sizes21:37
mra90yes Bashing-om & mihi thanks!21:38
mihiBashing-om, he said his / partition is full. Also I prefer "du -shx * | sort -h" to sort -n21:38
mihi(and being aware that this command does not include dotfiles/directories, you'd have to use "du --max-depth=1 -hx ." instead)21:40
mra90mihi, in du -shx * | sort -h21:43
mra90where do you specify home dir?21:43
mra90du -shx /home | sort -h21:43
leftyfbNapk1n: sudo systemctl restart systemd-resolved.service21:43
mihicurrent work directory. Or use /home/*21:43
mihisame as with your command. Just use -h twice instead of -n21:44
mra90sorry -h twice?21:44
mra90du -shx /home/* | sort -h21:44
mra90^ this is what I run21:44
Napk1nleftyfb worked ty21:44
leftyfbNapk1n: though, sudo systemd-resolve --flush-caches # should work. Didn't you say the other day that you removed netplan and probably other things?21:44
mihi"du -s -h -x" first -h, "sort -h" second -h21:45
mra90mihi, I think it would be better to search for single big files21:45
Napk1nleftyfb no I think you are confusing me, my issue the other way was not been able to access my wesbite from my own local network21:45
leftyfboh right21:46
Napk1nwhich is still my issue today xd21:46
Napk1np.s flushing dns didn't work xd21:46
mra90I have removed 200mb file and still no space on a device hmmm21:48
Napk1nI keep reading NAT loopback can be the issue21:48
Napk1nbut I dont see any NAT options in my router21:48
mihimra90: then you can use something like "find /home -size +1024M -ls" to find files larger than 1GB. But I assume if you get rid of logs, you should get your vim working again :)21:48
mihimra90, did you remove the file or truncate it. Can there still be processes that have the file open (likely if it is a log file)?21:49
mihiLinux will not delete a file until all processes who opened it have closed it.21:50
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Jordan_UNapk1n: To be clear, you're hosting a website in your home that is available via a publicly accessible IP address, and you can access it from outside your home with that IP address, but not when you're at home. Is that correct?21:50
mihithat's why it makes sense to truncate log files instead (": > somefile") as it will reclaim space immediately without restarting services21:50
mra90mihi, removed of course21:50
mra90now I have removed few more 200M files21:51
mra90and vim started to work again21:51
Napk1nJordan_U yea I put up the issue and some background here https://superuser.com/questions/1565706/i-cant-access-my-server-from-my-local-network?noredirect=1#comment2384587_156570621:52
Napk1nquestion got closed it seems :(  but is w/e21:53
Jordan_UNapk1n: And you are able to access the website if you use the local ip address. Correct?21:53
Napk1nJordan_U no I cant access it via local IP either21:54
Napk1nonly way I can access my website from my network is using a vpn21:54
Jordan_UNapk1n: OK. What error message do you get when you try to access the website via the local ip address of the server?21:54
Kali_Yugahello21:55
crazygamer16test21:56
Napk1nSite cant be reached (connection timed out), and when I try to connect via ssh it tells me the server refused the connection21:56
kariTest failed. Please try again.21:57
Napk1nI think I'm about to factory reset the modem, think that might help?21:58
Jordan_UNapk1n: It might. Can you back up you existing settings before doing that?21:58
Napk1nDNS cache does get saved in the modem right?21:58
Jordan_UNapk1n: Are you testing with domain names or with ip addresses? What exactly did you enter into the URL bar of your browser to test this?21:59
Napk1nJordan_U I don't really know how to do that but my modem isn't heavily customized and would ;prolly take me 10 mins to restore the old settings at most21:59
Napk1nJordan_U my public ipv4, the local ip of the server and also the domain name22:00
Jordan_UNapk1n: As long as using the local ip address of the server doesn't work, I wouldn't think much about DNS. You definitely have an ip accessibility problem. You may also have a DNS problem, but that would be problem #2.22:01
Napk1nJordan_U idk what else to try anymore, I keep reading something about NAT loopback but I don't see any NAT options in my router22:02
Jordan_UNapk1n: NAT loopback or hairpin NAT should only come into play if you're using the public IP address. Again, I would not spend much time thinking about that as long as accessing with the local IP is failing.22:03
Napk1nJordan_U is accessing my site via local IP still available even if I have it in a DMZ?22:04
Jordan_UNapk1n: That depends on the setup of your DMZ. Was it accessible via the local ip address before you started having problems?22:05
Napk1nJordan_U I'm actually not 100% sure cause is been 6 months but I believe it was never available via local IP22:06
Jordan_UNapk1n: The fact that ping does work makes me curious as to why http(s) and ssh don't.22:06
Napk1nping only works when I ping the local address22:07
Jordan_UNapk1n: What, if anything, are you sure did work 6 months ago?22:08
Napk1nJordan_U yea I work on my website daily22:08
Napk1nnot a day went by that I didnt access my server via ssh and https22:08
Jordan_UNapk1n: Do you remember if you were doing that via the local ip address or via the public ip address?22:10
Napk1nvia public address22:10
Jordan_UNapk1n: OK, then it's likely that what has stopped working is the hairpin NAT.22:11
Napk1nwould you know how to fix that? I have no clue22:12
Napk1nis it like just opening a port?22:13
Jordan_UNapk1n: I think that most consumer routers don't support hairpin NAT at all. Some may just have it enabled by default and not have a way to turn it off. If your router really doesn't have any options relating to NAT then I don't know what options you have to fix this, and it is odd that it was working but isn't anymore.22:14
Jordan_UNapk1n: It may be in the same configuration area as port forwarding, but it is different from port forwarding.22:14
Jordan_UNapk1n: What model router/modem do you have?22:14
Napk1nCODA-458222:15
Napk1nid be willing to buy a new modem if needed tho, I dont mind, my site makes some decent income22:16
MICROburstIs someone already using this nice and shiny autoinstall stuff described here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/please-test-autoinstalls-for-20-04/15250 ? - I would be interested to see how disk encryption works.22:28
quadrathoch2Napk1n first I would probably reset it, just to make sure that it's not a configuration error imho22:30
Napk1nquadrathoch2 you right imma go do that22:31
quadrathoch2Napk1n also when it's an ISP router, and them updating it, it could mean that they maybe removed a feature or the update messed the config up22:32
Xakizyo22:39
MICROburstwhazzup?22:51
crazygamer16hi22:53
oerheks:-)\22:53
crazygamer16anyone there22:53
oerheksnope, anyone left with everybody22:53
oerheksdo you have a support issue?22:53
crazygamer16i installed Ubuntu 3 days ago22:54
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