[00:27] <turboginger> exit
[00:27] <turboginger> woops lol,  bye everybody o7
[00:48] <mfilipe[m]> hey, what is the easiest way to format a new harddisk to use zfs and mount it in a permanent path?
[00:49] <quadrathoch2> mfilipe[m] https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/setup-zfs-storage-pool#1-overview
[00:50] <mfilipe[m]> tks
[01:50] <bobdobbs> I have an android phone. I'd like to access the photos that I've taken on this phone. I'm using ubuntu 18.04. How can I access the photos?
[01:50] <bobdobbs> Google searching lead me to Airdroid. But that requires a third-party account. I don't want to use an external service.
[01:51] <bobdobbs> If I just plug the phone in to my ubuntu machine, it gets immediately detected. KDE gives me options to access the phone, including using gwenview, which I think is a kind of image manager? But gwenview itself doesn't pick up the phone.
[01:52] <bobdobbs> KDE also allows me to use the file manager to access the phone. But the file manager doesn't see any files on the phone
[02:27] <bobdobbs> I've also discovered a tool called gmtp. When I run this and hit its 'connect' button it does do anything
[02:33] <sarnold> bobdobbs: I never really knew how to connect phones to computers but I have a vague memory that there's something like you need to unlock the phone, or you need to enable developer mode, before you can do some kinds of operations beyond tethering
[02:35] <bobdobbs> I don't know if unlocking is an option.
[02:36] <bobdobbs> I think I've got some kind of developer options enabled on the phone itself. I vaguely remember setting some kind of developer options on the phone in order to allow desktop chrome to connect to chrome on the phone. This was for debugging web pages on the phone's browser.
[02:36] <quadrathoch2> well, normally it's enough to have gvfs gvfs-backends installed (and then 'unlock' the data transfer option on android)
[02:39] <bobdobbs> There's something called kdeconnect, which requires a client to be enabled on the phone and the desktop. Unfortunately the desktop client isn't in the default repos
[02:39] <bobdobbs> funnily enough the cli client is though
[02:40] <bobdobbs> quadrathoch2: looks like I already have those installed
[02:40] <bobdobbs> the gvfs packages I mean
[02:42] <quadrathoch2> bobdobbs, k so normally that should work :/
[02:42] <bobdobbs> quadrathoch2: I get a lot of that
[02:42] <bobdobbs> it's odd. I seem to hit an aweful lot of edge cases with my setup
[02:42] <bobdobbs> And I don't think my setup is particularly exceptional
[02:43] <quadrathoch2> bobdobbs what device do you have? with what android version?
[02:43] <bobdobbs> bogstandard pc with ubuntu 18.04 installed. The android device is a Galaxy S9
[03:14] <bobdobbs> If I'm browsing images in dolphin, how can I get the dolphin to show image profiles?
[03:19] <kinghat> any of you guys using kvm?
[03:20] <bobdobbs> kinghat: what is kvm?
[03:24] <kinghat> kernel virtual management
[03:24] <kinghat> manager?
[03:24] <kinghat> this is the output of kvm-ok
[03:24] <kinghat> https://paste.debian.net/hidden/05900905/
[03:30] <leftyfb> kinghat: pretty sure it gave you the exact instructions you need to enable VT/KVM support
[03:32] <kinghat> ya i was just reading an article where they only singled in on the your CPU supports KVM extensions so i wasnt sure what was needed.
[03:35] <pymagic> My virtualbox wont let windows guest expand its screen size - any ideas on how to debug this on ubuntu 20.04lts?
[03:41] <leftyfb> pymagic: try #virtualbox
[03:45] <pymagic> leftyfb, I tried - its silent for the moment. I was hoping someone would have installed a 20.04lts vbox here with windows with it
[03:46] <leftyfb> pymagic: your issue actually has nothing to do with Ubuntu. It's a Virtualbox/Windows issue
[03:49] <pymagic> leftyfb, it was working till yesterday, ubuntu updates installed, and things broke. Not sure what happened.
[03:49] <pymagic> I was hoping someone else had this problem here
[03:51] <kinghat> everything looks good after a trip to the bios, leftyfb 👍
[04:16] <pymagic> mce: CPU11: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled - any ideas on how to fix this?
[04:37] <rfm> pymagic, time to pull off the cpu cooler and replace the thermal compound.  Nothing to do with #ubuntu....
[04:38] <pymagic> rfm, this is a lenovo laptop
[04:38] <rfm> pymagic, laptops are way more prone to having the compound dry out.
[04:40] <rfm> pymagic, do you hear the fan running a lot? that's the usual sign...
[04:43] <pymagic> rfm, indeed the fan is running a lot
[04:43] <pymagic> after i install 20.04lts - 18.04 no problem
[04:47] <rfm> pymagic, no reason to believe the software version is anything other than a conicidence. If it's a three year old laptop, it's thermal compound is suspect.
[04:48] <rfm> pymagic, check on youtube for instructions on how to take it apart, buy some new thermal compound, blow the hair out of the fan.
[04:48] <rfm> anyway, I;m off to bed
[05:13] <padhu> Chromium browser gives Google meet error message  'your browser can't share your screen'. I installed  chromium i80.
[05:13] <padhu> 0.3987.162-1
[05:44] <scythefwd2> anyone having issues with dual booting 20.04 and win 2004?
[06:19] <Squarism> why cant I start "nc localhost 25" ?
[06:19] <Squarism> ...even with sudo
[06:20] <ferz> Hello, what does snapd?
[06:21] <ferz> Is 'man snap' the documentation of snapd?
[06:27] <CameronBraid> I have a strange issue with my network settings.  I use netplan with a static setup.  Every minute ifconfig shows that the ip address is not assigned the device
[06:29] <matsaman> ferz: probably just the daemon for keeping track of its things
[06:29] <CameronBraid> it dissapears for 2 seconds then comes back, each minute
[06:30] <ferz> matsaman: so I can disable it.
[06:30] <matsaman> ferz: https://github.com/snapcore/snapd#readme
[06:30] <matsaman> ferz: if you aren't using snap packages, I don't see why not
[06:31] <matsaman> ferz: Ubuntu is pushing those packages, so they probably want it to be as easy as possible for people to use them (that is: not having to even enable a service beforehand)
[06:34] <ferz> CameronBraid: I'd some trouble with ethernet to configure a router last week. It's a pain having to do with netplan+NetworkManager and ubuntu tcp stack.  It works great with wifi and usual dhcp connections, but it's awful when you have to try static ip configuration.
[06:36] <ferz> On BSD I first kill dhcpclient then one ifconfig command and it works fine.
[06:36] <ferz> On Ubuntu it's not so easy.
[06:38] <ferz> matsaman: is there any ubuntu derivative distro that asks the user what he wants to enable instead to enable them beforehand?
[06:38] <ferz> I prefer have full control of my system.
[06:39] <matsaman> ferz: you should probably try the Debian net install
[06:39] <matsaman> ferz: for a desktop, probably Debian testing
[06:39] <matsaman> Ubuntu is a Debian derivative, with Canonical's for-profit baggage on top
[06:39] <ferz> matsaman: debian is using systemd either. Is there anything without systemd?
[06:39] <matsaman> Ubuntu's actually sourced from unstable Debian
[06:40] <matsaman> ferz: yes there is
[06:40] <matsaman> I think Devuan is the biggest without-systemd Debian project
[06:40] <ferz> matsaman: thank you.
[06:41] <CameronBraid> Found something.. systemd-networkd[1409]: eno1: Lost carrier
[06:41] <ferz> CameronBraid: you can join #netplan channel.
[06:41] <CameronBraid> ferz thanks
[06:49] <CameronBraid> Though I dont think its netplan
[06:56] <skyliner_369> does anyone know of an A.P.T. PPA or something with blender 2.83LTS or should I uninstall and switch to snap?
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> !latest | skyliner_369
[06:57] <lotuspsychje> or snaps indeed skyliner_369
[06:59] <skyliner_369> thanks.
[07:07] <ducasse> skyliner_369: you can search for a ppa on ppa.launchpad.net
[07:16] <ViperXL75> good morning. I've just finished installing a new Ubuntu machine and i have an old HDD that i'm still running on it. For some odd reason Ubuntu is seeing the HDD as a read only partition. While in FSTAB i mounted the drive like this: UUID=20105665105641C8   /mnt/DaBoss     ntfs-3g rw,nls=utf8
[07:17] <ViperXL75> i had this same line in Ubuntu 14 then 16 then Debian9 then Ubuntu18. But now on Ubuntu20 i get that strange behaviour. Is this a known thing?
[07:33] <ikonia> ViperXL75: it's because you're using the fuse file sytem module
[07:33] <ikonia> that will set the permissions the the 'person' mounting it
[07:37] <ViperXL75> hmm
[07:37] <ViperXL75> thing is
[07:37] <ViperXL75> even logging in as 'root'  (i know its bad), i still got the error
[07:37] <ViperXL75> I did see someone on internet saying "check if there's free room"
[07:38] <ViperXL75> i did "df" and i can see the drive at 100% in use
[07:38] <ViperXL75> it's a download-bunch-of-crap HDD.
[07:39] <ViperXL75> But now i'm sitting with the chicken and the egg problem. I need to free up some space maybe, for the drive to become "read/write" again? But i can't 'write' to it to delete files.
[08:00] <ogurk> if auditd is disabled and not in use - what could go wrong if I just uninstall a package?
[08:11] <scythefwd2> well, figured my dual boot issue out.. secure boot..
[08:16] <dust> where is the folder for thunderbird profile of the snap version? want to import a profile from debian sid version... at normal ubuntu version i have this problem https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/dedicated-profile-thunderbird-installation#w_what-happens-to-my-profile-if-i-downgrade-to-a-previous-version-of-thunderbird
[08:19] <skyliner_369> I just completely froze my PC... well... its probably solely reliant on the page pagefile at the moment, but it's completely unresponsive.
[08:20] <swensson> I'm about to give up, checking here before I change the password and run around with a monitor & keyboard.....I got a weird password, that contains @-"`=(' . I'm unable to connect to the wifi due to this. Anyone have any suggestions on how to do this? Headless unit...
[08:21] <Kari> o/
[08:21] <scythefwd2> ssh?
[08:21] <Kari> what OS skyliner?
[08:21] <Kari> sorry, release
[08:22] <Kari> i've been having very similar issues, using 2 different distros, kali and ubuntu. i'm leaning towards hardware or hardware compatability since my stuff is real old.
[08:23] <skyliner_369> Focal. Current. I made an ENORMOUS blender scene. If nothing else, I completely obliterated my GPU
[08:25] <Kari> lmao ouch
[08:25] <Kari> i get freezing just sat on desktop with nothing open, so probably not related ;)
[08:26] <dust> found it in home snap thunderbird common .thunderbrid
[08:26] <skyliner_369> Ubuntu is going to take a minute to boot as swap or the pagefile is cleared
[08:29] <scythefwd2> trying to see if I have hw acceleration enabled.. trying to use glmark2.. but getting an error about not being able to open a canvas..
[08:30] <scythefwd2> so I tried to run glxgears and it says it couldnt open display (null)
[08:31] <skyliner_369> Why does Ubuntu think discord crashes when the launcher closes?
[08:31] <scythefwd2> running whatever the latest I downloaded last night ...
[08:35] <scythefwd2> ah ha.. my fail
[09:44] <schangg> I am looking for the package that holds resolvectl
[09:44] <schangg> according to this https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=resolvectl&mode=exactfilename&suite=eoan&arch=any
[09:44] <schangg> it should be systemd
[09:45] <schangg> however when I check /var/lib/dpkg/info/systemd.list it is not there
[09:45] <schangg> and consequently not available on my system
[09:50] <CameronBraid> Anyone have an idea how to fix an issue with ethernet eno1: Lost carrier, eno1: Gained carrier happening fairly frequently
[09:57] <legreffier> schangg: depending on your ubuntu version it could be in systemd-resolve
[09:57] <schangg> 18
[09:58] <schangg> no such package
[10:03] <legreffier> schangg: this was still called systemd-resolve then. it's provided by systemd.
[10:03] <legreffier> More importantly, what are you trying to do ?
[10:05] <amuro> How to upgrade the distro from 18.04 to 20.04 in terminal?
[10:05] <amuro> How come I got the message saying that 18.04 is the latest LTS release when I run sudo do-release-upgrade
[10:07] <amuro> Is it because my system is 32bit?
[10:08] <legreffier> amuro: yes.
[10:09] <amuro> So, ubuntu 18.04 is the last 32bit OS?
[10:10] <legreffier> amuro: 19.10 is the last one. 18.04 is the last LTS.
[10:10] <amuro> what about 20.04 LTS?
[10:10] <amuro> no more LTS for 32bit?
[10:10] <legreffier> amuro: no.
[10:10] <amuro> Just wondering, I am ok with 18.04
[10:12] <legreffier> it will still be supported for some time. there's no "easy upgrade" to go to amd64 branch though, you will very probably need to re-install your system.
[10:14] <amuro> I can upgrade to amd64 even if the system is not 64bit?
[10:18] <ducasse> no, you need a 64-bit cpu
[10:21] <guiverc2> amuro, the 18.04 LTS upgrade isn't offered for 20.04 until AFTER 20.04.1 is out, that won't occur till after 23-July-2020
[10:26] <legreffier> amuro: I don't know what you use for a computer, but it's very probably able to run 64 binaries.
[10:26] <amuro> guiverc2: thx
[10:26] <legreffier> if you bought it after 2005-10...
[10:27] <guiverc2> amuro, but as already stated; if you're using i386/686/x86 you won't get offered (19.04 was last x86/i686 meaning 18.04 is last supported since 19.04 is EOL already)
[10:27] <amuro> legreffier: It's my Mom's computer so she can watch TV shows mostly
[10:40] <Warped> 18.04 will be supported until April 2023
[10:41] <Warped> Only problem is that software updates might not be available for 32bit.
[10:41] <Warped> For software other than the OS.
[10:45] <speeder39_> Good morning
[10:50] <amuro> What's the popular cloud server on ubuntu? ownCloud? version 10.4.1?
[10:50] <amuro> I am new to this and want to learn to play with ubuntu server.
[10:53] <Warped> NextCloud
[11:09] <amuro> Is snap a new package manager now? instead of apt?
[11:09] <amuro> For 20.04?
[11:19] <guiverc2> amuro, snap is more a type of package, the default package manager for Debian/Ubuntu handles deb packages..  snaps run in containers and are handled via `snap` command (instead of `dpkg|apt|..`
[11:21] <echoSMILE> When I login ubuntu from ssh I get the system information like system load, temperature, memory usage, and other metrics... can somehow execute this to give me this information whenever I want ?
[11:24] <guiverc2> echoSMILE, I tend to put my commands in /usr/local/bin/ (they're available to all users), but do whatever is appropriate for your company/organization (which maybe to place in ~/bin/ so only run by you)
[11:26] <schangg> I just installed ubuntu:latest inside a docker and when I run systemd-resolve --status I am getting sd_bus_open_system: No such file or directory
[11:27] <schangg> not sure this has anything with the fact that I am inside a docker
[11:27] <echoSMILE> guiverc2: my question is to execute that script/tool that is triggered on login
[11:27] <schangg> I've found people having this issue and fixing with some symbolic links but that seems to be a pretty ugly of doing this
[11:27] <schangg> isn't this supposed to work right away without doing to sumlinks tricks ?
[11:28] <guiverc2> echoSMILE, possibly adding it to ~/.profile is what you want
[11:28] <echoSMILE> guiverc2: I want to execute that particular tool
[11:28] <echoSMILE> :P
[11:29] <guiverc2> sorry I don't know what tool you are seeing  (uptime;free are common, but temperature can be gained from many means, as can info found in uptime;free (which is `top` like in display)
[11:48] <CameronBraid> any idea how I can track down the cause of a wired network getting "Lost carrier" and "Gained Carrier" when its always plugged in ?
[11:49] <echoSMILE> guiverc2: I got it: $ landscape-sysinfo
[11:50] <guiverc2> :)
[12:05] <echoSMILE> sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu-pi: Temporary failure in name resolution
[12:05] <echoSMILE> What I did wrong ?
[12:06] <echoSMILE> a lot of commands are telling me that
[12:19] <ignapk> how do I easily run this at startup https://github.com/hexvalid/Linux-CapsLock-Delay-Fixer
[12:23] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:35] <speeder39_> Good morning
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> welcome speeder39_
[12:37] <speeder39_> Hi lotuspsychje are you in the USA
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> speeder39_: no, europe timezone
[12:38] <speeder39_> Ah, tomorrow's independence day July 4
[12:39] <speeder39_> Tell me, is there high speed internet where you are in Europe
[12:39] <ubuntuuser1> so I can't get my wifi to connect without tethering, any help?
[12:39] <ubuntuuser1> yes im sure i got the password right, just won't connect
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | speeder39_ come to here
[12:45] <Salatwurzel> uhm guys ... did they remove the option when my pc should go in standby? Under System > Preferences > Power Management i can only see/set when my pc turns the monitor off
[12:45] <Salatwurzel> i guess its a bug?
[12:46] <Salatwurzel> (Power, not PowerManagement)
[12:46] <smallville7123> Salatwurzel: go to...
[12:46] <smallville7123> Power -> Blank Screen -> Never
[12:47] <Salatwurzel> smallville7123, tried it. That doesnt give me the option to select when my computer goes to sleep though
[12:47] <smallville7123> also Privacy -> Screen Lock -> Blank Screen -> Never
[12:48] <smallville7123> also Privacy -> Screen Lock -> Blank Screen Delay -> Never
[12:57] <Salatwurzel> smallville7123, tried that also ... changes nothing ... anyway i just want to set that after15min my monitor turns off and after 2 hours my pc goes into standby
[12:57] <Salatwurzel> the option for it was there https://imgur.com/a/i5mpUBo under blank screen in 18.04
[12:57] <Salatwurzel> (did a fresh 20.04 install yesterday)
[12:57] <semitones> if you're in a terminal, and you forget to sudo a command
[12:58] <semitones> is there a built in keyboard shortcut that can help you
[12:58] <smallville7123> Salatwurzel: change to KDE desktop then, you can do stuff like that in there
[12:58] <smallville7123> no idea how to do that in default desktop
[12:58] <semitones> right now I press 'up' to get the previous command, and then 'home' and then type 'sudo ' but wondering if there's a faster way.
[12:58] <smallville7123> semitones: probably not
[12:59] <smallville7123> semitones: check online
[12:59] <semitones> technically irc is part of "online" but I get your meaning :)
[12:59] <niub> o/
[13:00] <semitones> im reading lists of keyboard shortcuts but not seeing something this specific yet; but i considered that it might be common enough for someone to know here of the top of their heads
[13:00] <niub> I'm trying to build a package, is this the right chan to ask question about packages and such?
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> niub: we mostly advice to use the packages from the ubuntu official repos here
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> !alis | niub
[13:02] <niub> lotuspsychje fair enough but I need to add a patch and rebuild it
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> niub: wich package are we talking about?
[13:03] <niub> lotuspsychje edk2
[13:03] <smallville7123> btw does snap-store (ubuntu store) work for anyone?
[13:04] <niub> lotuspsychje I'm importing it using this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+sourcefiles/edk2/0~20191122.bd85bf54-2ubuntu3/edk2_0~20191122.bd85bf54-2ubuntu3.dsc
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> niub: can this wiki help any way? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEFI/EDK2
[13:04] <niub> but when I try to build it it fails adding a patche
[13:04] <semitones> smallville7123, I removed it
[13:04] <semitones> it was too large and I only had 10 GB
[13:05] <niub> lotuspsychje no, that doesn't help. I know how to build the source code...in this case I need to package it and I wanted to stay as close to the ubuntu way as possible
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> niub: maybe someone in #ubuntu-devel could know, or direct you to a better place
[13:06] <smallville7123> also for anyone that wands to remove the software updater (cus sometimes causes ubuntu to crash while installing packages and sends u to log in screen where you cannot log in probably cus ur already logged in, and causing you to be unable to reboot via the gui, forcing you to need to hard reboot)
[13:06] <smallville7123> sudo apt remove update-notifier update-manager update-notifier-common update-manager-core ubuntu-release-upgrader-core
[13:07] <niub> lotuspsychje roger that, I'll ask in #ubuntu-devel then, thx!
[13:25] <speeder39_> Niub are you in the USA
[13:48] <semitones> I would just like to announce
[13:49] <semitones> that I successfully used "mail" for the first time!
[14:27] <pa> hi
[14:27] <pa> how do i enable core dumps in 20.04?
[14:27] <pa> i did ulimit -c unlimited
[14:28] <pa> it says unlimited now
[14:28] <pa> but no core is dumped
[14:35] <bodiccea> lvm
[14:35] <oerheks> pa check unlimit -a | grep core, if it shows unlimited, coredump is enabled for your current session.
[14:36] <oerheks> You can install systemd-coredump to control dump file deeply, like: size, compression…. https://blog.monsterxx03.com/2017/07/15/enable-coredump-on-ubuntu-16.04/
[14:36] <quadrathoch2> oerheks he left ^^
[14:36] <oerheks> oh thanks
[14:40] <graciescoop> Does Ubuntu have an equivalent of Arch Linux's pacstrap?
[14:41] <oerheks>  debootstrap ?
[14:41] <oerheks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot
[14:47] <graciescoop> oerheks: that looks like it would work, but I need something that doesn't require root  (I'm using proot)
[14:53] <oerheks> graciescoop, yes, it requires root.
[14:53] <oerheks> what makes you think it can be doen without?
[14:54] <graciescoop> I didn't know if there was a way to just download something I could proot into
[14:54] <speeder39_> Hello
[14:55] <coconut> hey speeder39_
[14:55] <speeder39_> Hi coconut are you in the USA
[14:56] <coconut> nope,the Netherlands
[14:56] <oerheks> oh, they give ubuntu in the netherlands?
[14:57] <graciescoop> Can't you download it anywhere?
[14:57] <coconut> last time i checked they did
[14:59] <bieb> I have an ubuntu webserver, running 18.04.4, I was doing some maintenance today, there was a message for packages to be updated, so I ran apt-get update and upgrade. now apache wont run. apache2ctl status retuns: Looking up localhost
[14:59] <bieb> Making HTTP connection to localhost
[14:59] <bieb> Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host.
[14:59] <bieb> lynx: Can't access startfile http://localhost/server-status
[14:59] <bieb> 'www-browser -dump http://localhost:80/server-status' failed.
[14:59] <bieb> Maybe you need to install a package providing www-browser or you
[14:59] <bieb> need to adjust the APACHE_LYNX variable in /etc/apache2/envvars
[15:01] <bieb> sorry about that.. wasnt trying to flood
[15:02] <gurki> im encountering a weird bug when trying to use a bluetooth headset in teamspeak: whenever i input voice (be it via the bt headsets integrated mic or a dedicated microphone) the audio profile the headset uses will go to "disabled"
[15:02] <gurki> when running windows the profile will go to the headset one, providing shitty audio quality, but working overall
[15:02] <gurki> is there a workaround?
[15:10] <bieb> I have entered my webserver issue into pastebin, so I dont flood the channel. https://pastebin.com/CMiXMBmr
[15:13] <nonix4> Is livepatch supposed to work on 20.04? Haven't observed it apply any patches.
[15:13] <pa> i think i missed the answer.. how to enable core dumps?
[15:15] <nonix4> pa: that is a faq, and the answer is related to apport.service and /var/crash/
[15:15] <pa> aha i see
[15:16] <nonix4> cat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern # <-- works on most Linuxes for figuring out how they are handled, including ubuntu
[15:18] <pa> so temporarily disabling appport via systemd should do the trick right?
[15:19] <nonix4> That or preferably figuring out how to configure it. Depending on your use case, obviously. Also see "man 5 core" for generic info.
[15:19] <nonix4> (manpage is not ubuntu-specific)
[15:20] <oerheks> pa check unlimit -a | grep core, if it shows unlimited, coredump is enabled for your current session.
[15:20] <oerheks> You can install systemd-coredump to control dump file deeply, like: size, compression…. https://blog.monsterxx03.com/2017/07/15/enable-coredump-on-ubuntu-16.04/
[15:20] <pa> oerheks, it was 0, i set to unlimited, but files are not showing, hence i asked
[15:20] <oerheks> same info as for 20.04
[15:20] <bieb> Any ideas or where to look next on my apache issue?
[15:20] <pa> it seems that apport might be intercepting those
[15:22] <nonix4> pa: yes, by default handled by apport. Which does have a configuration file.
[15:23] <oerheks> check the systemd part?
[15:25] <nonix4> pa: fyi systemd-coredump is a "Replaces: core-dump-handler" package, which means it will also uninstall apport
[15:32] <Jonta> I've had "Temporary failure in name resolution" for several days now. Pinging google.com gives me that, but 0.0.0.0 goes through without packet loss. Added both 0.0.0.0 and 8.8.8.8 as nameservers to /etc/resolve.conf - Next step in troubleshooting?
[15:34] <oerheks> 0.0.0.0 nameserver?
[15:34] <oerheks> lolz
[15:34] <oerheks> read the docs again?
[15:35] <Jonta> Now that you say that, I think I misremembered, and mistook that for CloudFlare's, which is actually 1.1.1.1, huh? :)
[15:35] <oerheks> do not edit /etc/resolve.conf , use your networkmanager?
[15:36] <Jonta> Aight
[15:36] <coconut> correct, and 1.1.1.2 filters mallware domains away too
[15:56] <uzumaki> I'm wondering if it's possible to contribute code to Ubuntu?
[15:56] <uzumaki> or is it just testing and reporting bugs and joining in on the discussions?
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> !contribute | uzumaki start here
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> uzumaki: see also #ubuntu-discuss & ubuntu-devel to connect with community members
[15:58] <oerheks> lots of choice; translate, packaging, testing ( highly important), publish a blog or article to omgubuntu or better ..
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> +1
[16:01] <uzumaki> looking at it right now lotuspsychje oerheks , thanks!
[16:08] <oerheks> uzumaki, have fun?
[16:09] <uzumaki> lots actually, I've been using ubuntu since 14.04, have never looked into the project itself, starting up
[16:09] <Jonta> Oh networking. So confusing, so many possible solutions, so many solutions that look like they're out of date
[16:10] <oerheks> networkmanager, or netplan
[16:11] <oerheks> !netplan
[16:11] <uzumaki> I love how netplan has simplified things so much
[16:11] <Jonta> Trying to add 8.8.8.8 in NetworkManager -> IPv4 Settings now
[16:11] <oerheks> yes, it is a breeze, for (large) deployment
[16:11] <nonix4> uzumaki: uh, with two half-implemented renderers, how can you call it simple?
[16:11] <uzumaki> oerheks, true, I'm mostly involved with cloud based stuff, where netplan is my best friend
[16:12] <ViperXL75> ehh... Long story short, I'm trying to enable old SMBv1 on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. How?
[16:13] <uzumaki> nonix4, I'm not aware of the implementation details, I've been involved mostly with using it. much better than modifying the /etc/network files
[16:13] <oerheks> SMB1 is disabled by default: can still be enabled via a /etc/samba/smb.conf config
[16:13] <oerheks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseNotes#Samba_4.11
[16:15] <nonix4> uzumaki: well it works well for me if all 3 of the following are true 1. sticking to renderer: networkd, 2: a server without desktop junk, 3: staying away from network configurations which require deep hierarchies
[16:15] <uzumaki> nonix4, that's totally true!
[16:16] <uzumaki> hierarchies look beautiful on paper but are so painful and nasty
[16:16] <oerheks> [global] section: client min protocol = CORE # save and sudo systemctl restart smbd.service
[16:16] <TJ-> Remmina in 20.04 on Xubuntu; trying to extract a stored password for an RDP connection. The connection file (~/.local/share/remmina/XXXXXX.remmina) only shows "password=." and no hash but cannot locate where the hash is being found from. Any ideas?
[16:16] <ViperXL75> ehh wut?
[16:17] <ViperXL75> protocol = core ?
[16:17] <ViperXL75> sec
[16:17] <ViperXL75> I was banging my head in the wall with "lanman auth = yes" and "ntlm auth = yes"
[16:18] <oerheks> TJ-, https://github.com/c-goosen/decode-remmina-passwords or https://village.oyaore.com/home/post/2523/recover-lost-saved-remmina-remote-desktop-client-password
[16:18] <nonix4> uzumaki: example of case 3 / too deep layering with modern components: load-balanced multihomed wireguard tunnels of ipv4 overlay network over ipv6 (6rd) on top of ipv4 (dhcp)
[16:19] <uzumaki> nonix4, lol yes
[16:19] <TJ-> oerheks: I know, I use something similar, but they except the password hash in the XXXX.remmina file and for this one connection there is no hash in there!
[16:19] <TJ-> s/except/expect/
[16:19] <nonix4> (can be done manually but royal PITA with any configuration system)
[16:19] <uzumaki> is there a builtin pastebin utility to dump command outputs in ubuntu 18.04?
[16:19] <uzumaki> nonix4, xD yes
[16:20] <TJ-> !info pastebinit | uzumaki
[16:20] <uzumaki> TJ-, thanks!
[16:22] <nonix4> uzumaki: ... any other modern approaches at medium-area-networks that don't depend on internet actually existing? :)
[16:23] <uzumaki> nonix4, I don't think they do, multihoming keeps on becoming more and more of a thing now.. also, let's not forget edge clouds
[16:26] <Jonta> I've set NetworkManager back to "Automatic (DHCP)", deleted the manual one I tried, and added 4 additional DNS servers (8.8.8.8, 1.1.1.1, 8.8.4.4, 1.1.1.2), and saved that. netplan has the configuration shown on netplan.io (version: 2, renderer: NetworkManager). What do I do now? Wait for 5, 10, 60 minutes to ping again? Restart the machine?
[16:30] <Jonta> "Destination Host Unreachable" on pinging 1.1.1.1, but 0% packet loss on pinging 8.8.8.8. Pinging google.com still gives me "Temporary failure in name resolution". So I'm connected to the internet, but DNS fails. Even though… 8.8.8.8 connects and is a DNS?
[16:33] <ViperXL75> Strangely enough [global] section: "client min protocol = CORE"  didn't help to get my machines to use SMB1. I tried "client min protocol = NT1" but that didn't help either. I'm running Ubuntu 20.04 LTS
[16:34] <TJ-> Jonta: check the resolver in use with "systemd-resolve status" or "resolvectl --status"
[16:34] <Jonta> TJ-: Checking…
[16:34] <TJ-> Jonta: the above command(s) will show the DNS resolver used for each link (Interface) and may give a clue as to why it is failing
[16:35] <TJ-> Jonta: typo, "resolvctl status"
[16:35] <TJ-> Jonta: I think I got the "--" in the wrong places :D
[16:35] <Jonta> In order: "status: resolve call failed: Unit dbus-org.freedesktop.resolve1.service not found." on both
[16:36] <TJ-> Jonta: So " systemd-resolve --status" or "resolvectl status" :)
[16:36] <TJ-> Jonta: if those fail it suggests the name resolver is not running
[16:36] <Jonta> My mistake:
[16:37] <Jonta> "resolvectl status" gave me "Failed to get global data: Unit dbus-org.freedesktop.resolve1.service not found."
[16:37] <TJ-> Jonta: if they do fail to give good info, then check the service is running: "systemctl status systemd-resolved" where you would want to see "Active: active (running) since ..."
[16:37] <Jonta> I see. I don't know what the name resolver *is* ("It's the one that resolves names!"), but that would make sense
[16:37] <Jonta> Checking…
[16:37] <TJ-> Jonta: Yes, it is the local PC service that handles DNS look-ups for all applications
[16:39] <Jonta> Hmkay. I'll read up on that later. Maybe. Gah networking is confusing. OK. I got this:
[16:39] <TJ-> Jonta: which Ubuntu release is this? if it's an older release NetworkManager could be using dnsmasq as the resolver but most recent releases are using systemd-resolved
[16:39] <Jonta> 20.04 LTS
[16:39] <TJ-> Jonta: so it should be systemd-resolved
[16:39] <Jonta> Active: inactive (dead)
[16:40] <TJ-> Jonta: if the service isn't shown as running then try "sudo systemctl restart systemd-resolved" then check again with "systemctl status systemd-resolved" for it "running"
[16:40] <Jonta> Trying…
[16:41] <Psil0Cybin> hey i got a question i installed an icon theme for xfce4, everything is working perfect but hwen i open thunar my home directory
[16:41] <Psil0Cybin> all folders are changed except pictures, i cleaned the cache
[16:41] <Psil0Cybin> nd nothing it shows all new icons but Pictures shows the gnome folder icon how can i fix this because im OCD
[16:42] <Jonta> sudo systemctl restart systemd-resolved.service resulted in Active: active (running). Still the same on ping, but I'm guessing it takes at least 60 seconds or so
[16:43] <TJ-> Jonta: that won't affect a ping which is only dealing with network connectivity; but now your DNS lookups should succeed, e.g. "resolvectl query iam.tj"
[16:43] <Jonta> "example.com resolve call failed: No appropriate name servers or networks for name found"
[16:44] <arvinoids> hello world
[16:44] <ViperXL75> xD
[16:44] <Jonta> arvinoids: Seeing your message
[16:45] <ViperXL75> hello arvinoids
[16:46] <TJ-> Jonta: in which case the network config is broken still; can you show us "resolvectl status | nc 5.39.93.71 9999" and tell us the URL
[16:46] <Jonta> Fetching…
[16:47] <Jonta> Returns nothing
[16:48] <TJ-> Jonta: it should eventually show a termbin.com URL
[16:48] <TJ-> Jonta: is the PC with this problem the one you're on IRC from?
[16:48] <Jonta> It returned nothing pretty quickly
[16:48] <Jonta> No
[16:49] <Jonta> I don't know what nc does with that IP, but it's not an IP I see when running just "resolvectl status"
[16:49] <TJ-> Jonta: aha! OK, so now let's try to analyse things more: do "ip route show" and tell me if you see a "default via ..."
[16:49] <Jonta> Doing…
[16:49] <TJ-> Jonta: that IPv4 address is the termbin.com server - I gave that since that system cannot resolve DNS currently, but seems like it also have a connectivity/routing issue
[16:49] <Jonta> default via 192.0.0.5 dev eno1 proto static metric 20100
[16:50] <Jonta> (And 2 more lines. 192.0.0.5 was something I put into NetworkManager not too many minutes ago)
[16:51] <TJ-> Jonta: is 192.0.0.5 your local internet gateway/router ? If you're on a GNU/Linux PC for IRC do the same command and compare results
[16:51] <TJ-> Jonta: but it looks very wrong; I'd expect something like 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.0.254
[16:51] <Jonta> Hm, I don't know. I just guessed at that IP as one of the settings
[16:52] <TJ-> Jonta: what OS is the device you're on IRC from?
[16:52] <Jonta> I'm on macOS for IRC, but could still try
[16:52] <TJ-> Jonta: OK ... on the Mac can you check what the gateway is set to in the network settings?
[16:52] <Jonta> default via 10.0.0.138 dev en1
[16:52] <TJ-> Jonta:aha!
[16:53] <TJ-> Jonta: lets' manually getting the problem PC set up manually so it has some connectivity then fix the actual NetworkManager entry
[16:53] <TJ-> Jonta: so "sudo ip route del default via 192.0.0.5"
[16:53] <Jonta> Sudoing…
[16:54] <TJ-> Jonta: then "sudo ip route add default via 10.0.0.138 dev eno1"
[16:54] <Jonta> OK. That seemes to've deleted the default. (Default gateway?)
[16:54] <TJ-> Jonta: now your pings will work
[16:55] <ViperXL75> Turns out that I needed to add these 3 lines to the Global section of smb.conf.   client min protocol = NT1 , server min protocol = NT1 , ntlm auth = ntlmv1-permitted      (damn Sonos speakers)
[16:55] <Jonta> Hah! That's what you think! But what if my computer says "Error: Nexthop has invalid gateway."?
[16:55] <Jonta> (The Ubuntu-box is on a WiFi-repeater)
[16:55] <TJ-> Jonta: OK, that's fine, we have more work to do :)
[16:55] <Jonta> (The mac box has WiFi itself)
[16:55] <Jonta> Oh, ok
[16:56] <Jonta> (And yes, I didn't try a ping yet)
[16:56] <TJ-> Jonta: let's try putting that PC on the same sub-net now: "sudo ip addr add 10.0.0.201/24 dev eno1"
[16:56] <Jonta> Done
[16:56] <TJ-> Jonta: now "ping 1.1.1.1" should work
[16:57] <Jonta> ping: connect: Network is unreachable
[16:57] <TJ-> Jonta: Grrrr!
[16:57] <Jonta> I agree
[16:58] <TJ-> Jonta: I think that the NetworkManager config is causing some confusion that is breaking things so let's disable it for now
[16:58] <Jonta> With netplan?
[16:58] <TJ-> Jonta: do "nmcli con" which'll list the connections with active connections in green
[16:58] <Jonta> Doing…
[16:58] <TJ-> Jonta: you will see one or two (ignore any virbr* type bridges)
[16:59] <Jonta> 1
[16:59] <TJ-> Jonta: you should see one that is the Wifi, so now do "nmcli con down "name of the connection"
[16:59] <TJ-> Jonta: if the connection name has spaces in you need to surround it with quote marks, or else start typing it then tab-complete
[17:00] <Jonta> It's plugged in as a wired network, via TP-cable to the repeater
[17:00] <TJ-> Jonta: okay, ignore my mention of Wifi -everything else stands
[17:00] <Jonta> Successfully deactivated
[17:00] <TJ-> Jonta: has any device successfully worked from that repeater?
[17:01] <Jonta> Yes. That very computer, not 72 hours ago
[17:01] <Jonta> Reset, restarted and unplugged the repeater as well
[17:01] <TJ-> Jonta: I'm wondering if the repeater has lost the link if so
[17:02] <TJ-> Jonta: OK, well, you've disabled the connection so now "ip route show" and "ip addr show dev eno1" ought not to show any of those 192* addresses
[17:02] <Jonta> Maybe. It's got 4 prominent status lights, but only 3 were green, the last one off
[17:02] <Jonta> ip route show - Shows nothing. Yes
[17:02] <TJ-> Jonta: you should only see those 10.0.0.*/24 addresses we manually added
[17:03] <TJ-> Jonta: so NM may have interferred - let's try again now its disabled
[17:03] <Jonta> (Also can't log in to the WiFi repeater. Someone else might've put a password on it. Seems unlikely, but possible)
[17:03] <Jonta> Hang on. Doing "ip addr show dev eno1"
[17:03] <TJ-> Jonta: "sudo ip addr add 10.0.0.201/24 dev eno1" then "sudo ip route add default via 10.0.0.138 dev eno1"
[17:04] <TJ-> Jonta: OK... you'll possibly not see any addresses but maybe the .201 remained
[17:04] <Jonta> OK, did some stuff:
[17:05] <Jonta> ip addr show dev eno1: Shows 2 lines, the 2nd one with 2 IPv6-addresses (although, 6 sections instead of 4?), one of which is ff:ff:ff etc
[17:05] <Jonta> And I ran the last 2 sudo-commands
[17:06] <TJ-> Jonta: IPv6 are 128 bits long, so you'll see something like "inet6 fe80::6932:c56f:db51:f784/64"
[17:07] <TJ-> Jonta: after those last 2 commands the PC ought to have some connectivity to the gateway if the repeater is working - try "ping 10.0.0.138"
[17:07] <Jonta> Trying…
[17:07] <TJ-> Jonta: also, on your Mac try "ping 10.0.0.201"
[17:08] <Jonta> Linuxbox gives "Destination Host Unreachable"
[17:08] <Jonta> mac-box gives "Request timeout"
[17:08] <TJ-> Jonta: looks like a repeater issue then
[17:09] <Jonta> Hm, okay. What did we just try doing? I assume you have a sketch of a network map over there
[17:10] <Atlenohen> Hello
[17:10] <Jonta> Atlenohen: Hi
[17:11] <TJ-> Jonta: well, we tried to add a valid IPv4 address and the default route to the internet gateway device manually
[17:11] <Atlenohen> Weird GSmartControl saves report to /root
[17:11] <TJ-> Jonta: I deduced the valid IPv4 from the gateway reported by your Mac
[17:12] <TJ-> Jonta: I'm assuming the local subnet is 10.0.0.0/24 and the gateway is on 10.0.0.138
[17:12] <Jonta> TJ-: Hmm. Where do I learn this stuff up to the level we tried today? I have the impression that network stuff is very quickly "Here: Read this 300 page manual", which is not going to happen
[17:12] <TJ-> Jonta: it's very structured with lots of layers so generally you learn the bits you need, when you need!
[17:13] <Jonta> OK. But. How? :)
[17:13] <Atlenohen> How do I force run dolphin with sudo?
[17:15] <TJ-> Jonta: It's a HUGE subject area so read and experiment with non-vital systems is the best way :)
[17:16] <Jonta> TJ-: Hmh. Got a suggestion for an overview of the subject matter? The layers you mentioned?
[17:22] <Jonta> Seems I could've saved us a lot of time by trying to connect to the repeater, and thereby see Android's "Connected, no internet"
[17:23] <TJ-> Jonta: Maybe too comprehensive but seems to cover a lot of ground well https://www.actualtechmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/CUMULUS-NETWORKS-Linux101.pdf
[17:23] <Jonta> Thank you
[17:27] <legreffier> this pdf is dangerously outdated regarding network on ubuntu system. by a few years.
[17:31] <TJ-> legreffier: most are
[17:32] <TJ-> legreffier: but we are talking about understanding the layers, not the specifics
[17:35] <TJ-> And, answering my own question about Remmina connection profiles (~/.local/share/remmina/XXXXX.remmina files) only showing "password=." the "." (dot) means "stored in gnome-keyring. To view those needs seahorse AKA "Passwords and Keys" navigate to Passwords > Login, select the login and right-click to bring up the context menu, choose Properties and to the right of the Password field press the key
[17:35] <TJ-> icon to unhide the password.
[18:00] <egy> nice! i always wondered about the "password=."
[18:01] <Jonta> So now the Linux-box has WiFi
[18:01] <Jonta> But still "Temporary failure in name resolution"
[18:02] <relipse> why am I getting this message:  WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED!
[18:13] <marchesini> Hi folks
[18:20] <Jonta> marchesini: Hi
[18:50] <egy> jonta: there's something wrong in your DNS resoltuion. can you `ping dns.google.com` ?
[18:51] <egy> relipse: it's because you have SSH'd into that host before, and accepted to trust their fingerprint (i.e you acknowledged you verify that this host is who you think is). is this a home computer ?
[18:52] <Jonta> egy: Pinging…
[18:52] <egy> CTRL+C
[18:52] <Jonta> Temporary failure in name resolution
[18:53] <egy> aha, your DNS server is messed up. i don't know your setup though
[18:53] <Jonta> What can I do to communicate my setup to you? :)
[18:54] <egy> i'll be afk, but you can check `/etc/resolv.conf/` to find out what is your DNS server (the computer host who is responsible to change domain names like dns.google.com to their real addresses)
[18:55] <Jonta> It's back to 127.0.0.53
[18:55] <egy> also check if you've internet connectivity first, try `ping 8.8.8.8`
[18:55] <egy> afk for now
[18:55] <Jonta> 0% packet loss on pinging 8.8.8.8
[19:03] <asmcint> I've got a really weird problem. Using 20.04 basically as a means to have my computer usable while I await a resolution for some other weird crap I won't go into, but for some reason, whenever I type a "b", a "g" is automatically inserted, and every now and again text fields and interfaces behave as though I'm constantly tapping the left arrow key,
[19:03] <asmcint> even though I'm not. Keyboard itself is known good. Anyone know what's up?
[19:04] <asmcint> Er just to clarify, typing "b" produces "bg"
[19:05] <scythefwd2> while kb may be known good.. have you tried a different kb or layout?
[19:05] <asmcint> Only other keyboard I've got is dead as a doornail. I can try a different layout real quick.
[19:06] <scythefwd2> that sucks.. I forget how.. gimme a second, but there is a way in terminal to see what ascii is being sent on press and release
[19:07] <scythefwd2> might be interesting to see what it's sending
[19:07] <genii> xev
[19:07] <scythefwd2> thanks.. been a while since I have been able to use Linux.. I'm rusty as hell.. and wasn't particularly skilled to begin with
[19:07] <asmcint> Yeah because different layouts are producing the same issue.
[19:07] <genii> ( run in Konsole, if there's stuck keys it will just keep scrolling stuff)
[19:08] <scythefwd2> I'm JUST finding a distro (give ya 3 guess which one lol) that works with my laptop properly.. so far
[19:09] <scythefwd2> hopefully a very easy question.. is there a way to move the show applications button to the top of the bar vs the bottom?
[19:10] <asmcint> xev seems really finnicky, but it showed separate keypress events for both b and g when pressing b.
[19:11] <asmcint> Couldnt keep it working long enough to test arrow keys
[19:13] <asmcint> Behavior has now just spread to "x" which will now also produce a "c"
[19:13] <asmcint> So "x" becomes "xc"
[19:14] <scythefwd2> is this a laptop or a desktop?  Not that it matters TOO much.. seems like you have a kb thats on it's way out...
[19:14] <asmcint> Desktop. Keyboard was bought like a couple months ago.
[19:15] <scythefwd2> huh.. If you were close.. I'd loan ya a kb for testing purposes.. one that could be used as a truck ramp (no flex ever)
[19:15] <Jonta> How did you determine that this kb is known to be good?
[19:15] <scythefwd2> I think @jonta is picking up what I"m thinking
[19:15] <scythefwd2> sorry.. Jonta
[19:15] <asmcint> Hooked it up to my PS4 and typed in the web browser there.
[19:16] <scythefwd2> on your ps4.. will it let you hit two keys simultaniously and register them?
[19:16] <scythefwd2> or does it require one key to be released before the other gets registered?
[19:16] <Jonta> (Hmm. So probably not spilled fizzy pop in it. I don't know how responsive web browsers in PS4 are)
[19:17] <Jonta> Oh yes, maybe an n-key-rollover issue?
[19:17] <asmcint> It should? Gimme a hot minute and I'll get back to you on that. It's also been a few days and I didn't do it to troubleshoot this issue, but just for convenience.
[19:19] <scythefwd2> is it a membrane kb?... vs mechanical key?  Once had a logitech that would cause all sorts of mary hobb when I used it on my lap due to flex.. and I suspect the keys were shorting as it flexed.. worked perfectly on a table (not saying is the case.. just stating I've had new kb's that had issues.. and it's kind of where my brain is going with this.. and I could be way off)
[19:20] <scythefwd2> and in a copletely different vein of conversation.. Kinda wanting to put a temp, cpu usage, etc on my desktop.  I know about conky.. has there been anything better released in the last.. 3 years ?
[19:22] <asmcint> Wouldn't let me type this time but I got a taste of the arrow key issue. Probably a short somewhere due to accumulated gunk. I'll have to clean it.
[19:22] <Jonta> Keyboards are essential. I recommend having multiple backups
[19:22] <asmcint> I used to! They kinda just died in storage.
[19:22] <semitones> Hello. Is there a way that my grub install is indeed verified/signed for UEFI secure boot?
[19:22] <asmcint> Anywho, thanks guys.
[19:23] <Jonta> Rest In Pepperoni (as I read in a YouTube-comment today)
[19:23] <semitones> I don't seem to have "shim" installed -- that would seem to be a problem
[19:23] <scythefwd2> semitones.. I had to register the key with my uefi.. but it did seem to boot secure boot fine.. I did have problems, but only when trying to chainload the windows bootloader with grub2
[19:24] <oerheks> semitones, is this about that surface image?
[19:24] <scythefwd2> almost like secureboot didnt like it.  I could boot directly using the efi entry to windows or ubuntu.. but couldnt chain load
[19:25] <semitones> scythefwd2, did you ever resolve it? I might need to find out how to register the key with uefi
[19:25] <semitones> oerheks, yes, unfortunately still
[19:27] <scythefwd2> semi.. I decided that it wasnt worth pressing f9 every time I wanted to boot to windows.. so I just turned secure boot off
[19:28] <scythefwd2> I had jsut spent 3 hours fixing my os install due to not just the problems with secureboot.. but the install did something to my tpm, and erased the key to my bitlocker.. it was just painful getting that all sorted
[19:28] <scythefwd2> BUT my ubuntu never hiccup'd booting when secure boot was enabled.. it was just messing with my windows boot
[19:29] <scythefwd2> so I dont see it being much a problem if I wasn't sticking with a dual boot system.. the surface may be different though.. MS isn't known to play too nice.. no matter how much they've warmed up
[19:30] <semitones> heh
[19:30] <semitones> well it seems like other people have done it, which gives me hope
[19:30] <semitones> but it also seems like it went easily for them
[19:31] <semitones> meanwhile, I can't apt update because I get the error E: The repository 'http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal Release' no longer has a Release file.
[19:34] <semitones> actually there is an earlier error
[19:34] <semitones>                                                                        
[19:34] <semitones> Err:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal Release
[19:34] <semitones>   Cannot initiate the connection to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:67c:1562::15). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) Cannot initiate the connection to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (2001:67c:1562::18). - connect (101: Network is unreachable)
[19:35] <semitones> seems odd, since I'm reaching IRC and the internet
[19:35] <semitones> https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/us.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:35] <semitones> says that it's just me
[19:37] <mihi> I cannot even resolve us.archive.ubuntu.com. BTW, can you try us.releases.ubuntu.com? And is IPv6 working in general for you?
[19:37] <mihi> (archive.ubuntu.com is for old releases, and I don't think that focal is old yet)
[19:38] <semitones> I think I'm on ipv4 only
[19:38] <semitones> I can change sources.lst
[19:38] <mihi> so it is weird that your DNS lookup returned an IPv6 address.
[19:38] <semitones> not sure how it got to be wrong like that
[19:38] <semitones> yeah that's pretty strange
[19:39] <mihi> or just manually pick a mirror from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors that is near you and works for you
[19:40] <ubuntuuser1> Hi I've asked this a few times but no response, my laptop upon installing ubuntu refuses to connect to any wifi unless tethered, does anyone know of anyway to check why that is?
[19:40] <hggdh> if it helps any, us.archive.ubuntu.com is accessible for me on both IPv4 and IPv6
[19:40] <semitones> mihi, now I'm getting this: Err:6 http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal Release
[19:40] <semitones>   404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.247 80]
[19:41] <semitones> hggdh, it does help narrow it down
[19:41] <tomreyn> ubuntuuser1: identify the chipset by running: lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller' | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:41] <hggdh> also, archive.ubuntu.com is the main server for current releases; old-releases.ubuntu.com is the archive for EOL releases
[19:42] <semitones> I can ping 91.189.88.247
[19:42] <scythefwd2> well got that changed.. they didn't make that easy did they
[19:42] <scythefwd2> sorry,  my dock application drawer position
[19:42] <tomreyn> ubuntuuser1: once you know it, search the web for the current driver situation for it. chances are you have one which requires additional firmware or a proprietary or badly maintained driver.
[19:43] <scythefwd2> semi.. who's your dns server?
[19:43] <semitones> scythefwd2, I was thinking that might be the problem
[19:44] <mihi> hggdh, thanks. I messed that up from Debian which uses a different convention. Sorry semitones
[19:44] <semitones> I have a pi-hole set up; maybe something is happening on it
[19:44] <hggdh> mihi: no prob :-)
[19:44] <scythefwd2> see if you can change your dns to say 8.8.8.8 and try again.. if it is.. I'd bet it's your pihole causing issues
[19:46] <semitones> I temporarily changed dns in my router to 1.1.1.1
[19:46] <scythefwd2> oh.. question for the whole room.. I was going to say those more experienced than me.. but that pretty much is the whole room ... live update.. is that doing something like kexec?
[19:46] <scythefwd2> livepatch*
[19:47] <hggdh> scythefwd2: no. kexec transfers control to a new kernel, while live-update dynamically replaces parts of the current kernel
[19:47] <semitones> thanks
[19:48] <semitones> that fixed it
[19:48] <scythefwd2> so.. if I'm using a module.. say for my "special" screen (touch screen.. and it's finniky).. does that stop working while being updated.. how does that work?
[19:48] <scythefwd2> just curious..
[19:48] <tomreyn> ubuntuuser1: maybe part of why you asked this a few times is that you never respond. :)
[19:50] <hggdh> scythefwd2: if it is a module provided with the kernel package, it should -- probably and perhaps -- keep on working. If it is an external module... who knows?
[19:50] <scythefwd2> makes sense.. I'm not sure who provides it.. and honestly I'd probably not notice even if it did stop working during the patch.. I almost never use the touchscreen .. just trying to wrap my head around it
[19:51] <egy> hi Jonta, have you got it fixed ? you should configure your gatway (or router) with DNS server like 8.8.8.8 or 1.1.1.1
[19:51] <egy> i'm assuming the gateway (or router) is 127.0.0.53
[19:51] <scythefwd2> egy.. his dns blackhole is probably the issue.. I suspect its forward lookup zone is 1.1.1.1 already.. but it's getting killed in the pihole
[19:52] <egy> oh neat! thanks for debugging it scythefwd2
[19:52] <scythefwd2> not full dns.. jsut the dns query for his repos and a few others.. once he tried 1.1.1.1 directly.. all was good to go
[19:52] <scythefwd2> you got to it faster than I did though.. so props man
[19:53] <egy> ugh i was afk, but yeah glad i helped :)
[19:53] <semitones> Ok, I just installed shim, shim-signed
[19:53] <semitones> grub automatically installed grub to /boot/efi
[19:53] <scythefwd2> oh, wait.. getting coversations mixed up.. egy:didnt help Jonta.. was able to help semitones
[19:53] <semitones> yeah! thanks again
[19:53] <semitones> I need to fix pi hole, but disabled it for the moment
[19:54] <pavlushka> How to install a pip module on this location /home/user/.local/lib/python3.6/site-packages/ ?
[19:54] <scythefwd2> you running a whitelist or a blacklist
[19:54] <egy> :)
[19:54] <scythefwd2> same solution though
[19:54] <semitones> I'm going to restart and see if grub works with secure boot now that I have installed shim and shim-signed (not sure how they got removed)
[19:55] <tomreyn> pavlushka: pip3 --user install <package>
[19:55] <tomreyn> pavlushka: that's assuming your have pythoon 3.6.something installed and pip3 pointing to it.
[19:56] <pavlushka> yep
[19:56] <scythefwd2> hggdh:  to paraphrase.. it installs and then redirects to the patched version.. not quite booting to a new kernel like kexec does.. but a really similar principle... is that accurate?
[19:59] <ViperXL75> because my partition was read-only i am following a guide to make it read-write. I managed to unmount it using umount. But how do i mount it back again?  In FSTAB is was mounted like this: UUID=20105665105641C8   /mnt/DaBoss     ntfs-3g rw,nls=utf8
[20:00] <scythefwd2> that fstab looks to be read write already
[20:00] <scythefwd2> but mount /mnt/DaBoss should re-mount right?
[20:00] <ViperXL75> Yes. The thing is, I've had that line in my FSTAB throughout multiple Ubuntu upgrades. Even went through Debian.
[20:01] <ViperXL75> Now i came to Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and all of a sudden it mounted as read-only.
[20:01] <scythefwd2> huh..
[20:01] <ViperXL75> right before unmounting it i saw that it was filled to 100%  (kinda downloaded too much junk i guess)
[20:02] <ViperXL75> So if that's the problem i kinda need to create some room maybe before mounting it again through fstab?    (or am is peaking complete crap now?)
[20:02] <ViperXL75> *speaking
[20:03] <scythefwd2> i dunno
[20:03] <ViperXL75> just 'mount /mnt/DaBoss' is sufficient?
[20:03] <ViperXL75> no bla-bla-bla behind it because it's NTFS?
[20:03] <oerheks> ViperXL75, wrong approach, run a fsck with a live iso https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting
[20:03] <scythefwd2> yeah.. if I remember right it looks to fstab for the mount point, and if it exists it uses that fstab entry
[20:03] <ViperXL75> hmm
[20:04] <ViperXL75> oerheks: my linux is booted and running. It's just 1 drive thats on read-only. Can i just do fsck from within ubuntu?
[20:04] <scythefwd2> dirty journal oerheks?
[20:04] <scythefwd2> as long as its not / I'd think so
[20:04] <Jordan_U> ViperXL75: You should *NOT* be allowing ntlmv1 authentication: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/2793313/security-guidance-for-ntlmv1-and-lm-network-authentication
[20:05] <ViperXL75> Jordan_U: lost me. wut?
[20:05] <scythefwd2> Jordan_U  how could you tell he was?
[20:06] <Jordan_U> away
[20:06] <scythefwd2> I mean, he's not wrong, ntlmv2 is better and ntlm is highly discouraged by pretty much any security guideline and baseline..
[20:07] <Jordan_U> ViperXL75: scythefwd2: I was looking through your past messages to get context on your question and I saw that you allowed ntlmv1 earlier.
[20:07] <scythefwd2> ah, I missed that.. thanks
[20:07] <scythefwd2> I was like.. all I saw was the fstab.. and if you got that from there.. teach me!
[20:07] <ViperXL75> oh u mean the SMB1 story.
[20:07] <ViperXL75> :S
[20:07] <Jordan_U> ViperXL75: That article from microsoft is from 2013. ntlmv1 was insecure then, it's REALLY insecure now.
[20:08] <oerheks> oh that
[20:08] <ViperXL75> yeah... I know I'm gonna be burning in linux hell for that one.
[20:08] <ViperXL75> I just kinda realized that a premium brand (Sonos) decides to just stick to SMB1.   :S
[20:12] <ViperXL75> about fsck
[20:13] <ViperXL75> this "fsck /dev/sdb1" gives this line only "fsck from util-linux 2.34"
[20:13] <oerheks> ntfs-fix, whatever
[20:13] <ViperXL75> Ran as Root
[20:13] <ViperXL75> ohhh
[20:14] <zutat> ViperXL75: are you sure fsck finished?
[20:14] <Booh> Hi. Is there a problem with ca.archive.ubuntu.com for apt-update?
[20:14] <Jordan_U> ViperXL75: For your ntfs volume, I'd recommend a chkdsk from a Windows OS. There is no real fsck for ntfs on linux.
[20:15] <ViperXL75> well upon the remark of oerheks i realized that i'm trying to do fsck on a ntfs drive.  Not my smartest moment.  :(
[20:16] <ducasse> Booh: try #ubuntu-mirrors
[20:16] <scythefwd2> booh.. i just had issues too.. i had to change dns to a public dns
[20:16] <tpw_rules> is this about us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[20:16] <scythefwd2> i was using verizon
[20:16] <tpw_rules> it's broken for me too on my university's network
[20:16] <oerheks> maybe your mirror is in sync, try again in a few minutes?
[20:18] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors whole usa is 6 hrs or more behind..
[20:19] <oerheks> Nepal Telecom	http	128 Kbps	Up to date
[20:19] <oerheks> grinn
[20:23] <ViperXL75> well you guys got me on the right path. I did a bit of a dirty 'ntfsfix'. Then i remounted it and now i can read-write. Only gonna be running it for tonight. Tomorrow I'll just reformat the damn thing from NTFS -> EXT4.
[20:23] <ViperXL75> like i said. It's just a 'download-junk-and-delete' for my bigger raid array.
[21:02] <Ublx> Good evening. I've a problem with my ssh configuration. I have 2 ssh connections I cannot use. I get an error 'Too many authentication failures' but I can login without any problems with another user on the same system.
[21:02] <Ublx> Any ideas how I can solve this?
[21:03] <ferz> Ublx: what you read on /var/log/auth.log
[21:04] <Ublx> ferz: nothing related to ssh and nothing is added when i try to get a connection again.
[21:05] <ferz> Ublx: using ssh -vvvv yournick@host what output says?
[21:06] <Ublx> I have some keys generated and some of them do still work but some does not work. And for new ssh connections I always have the above error.
[21:06] <Ublx> With 4x v?
[21:06] <ferz> man ssh
[21:08] <Ublx> it seems ssh tries to find a public key and cannot find one ... but I just entered ssh user@server and there's no key for this one.
[21:08] <Ublx> I knew -verbose therefore I was surprised
[21:12] <Ublx> Hm, that's the same debug messages for a ssh connection I've a key listed but that doesn't work. It worked nice for some months but immediately it stopped and I couldn't get it work anymore.
[21:13] <ferz> What is kind of key have you listed on your server?
[21:14] <ferz> It could be a deprecated one.
[21:15] <mra90> I have E297: Write error in swap file which seems to be the result of filesystem full
[21:15] <mra90> while the filesystem is not full
[21:15] <mra90> in fact only 7% is occupied
[21:15] <mra90> what is wrong?
[21:15] <kiwiirc> hai can ubuntu be used without systemd?
[21:16] <Bashing-om> mra90: Terminal commands ' df -h ; df -i ' shows what ?
[21:16] <oerheks> kiwiirc, interesting, what would you want to use instead?
[21:16] <kiwiirc> just regular init
[21:16] <kiwiirc> i refuse to run programs like systemd
[21:17] <mra90> Bashing-om, it shows several locations
[21:17] <mra90> some indeed are 100% but the place I want to edit is only 7% occupied
[21:17] <mra90>  /dev/loop7                                                               43M   43M     0 100% /snap/
[21:17] <Ublx> ferz: I can use ssh user@server on other accounts on the same machine and with other computers as well. It's not the server, it's my Ubuntu login.
[21:18] <mra90> but I want to edit a file from /home
[21:18] <Bashing-om> mra90: Pastebin those results to remove all doubts :D // loops are generaly snaps and will always then be 100% .
[21:18] <mra90> and /home as I said is only 7%
[21:18] <mra90> Bashing-om, well these folder paths contain a lot of customer confidential names
[21:19] <mra90> like second name i.e
[21:19] <mra90> can you trast me the location is 7% full?
[21:19] <mra90> E297: Write error in swap file
[21:19] <mra90> E303: Unable to open swap file for "chromeos/config/x86_64/chromeos
[21:20] <mra90> this is the error message I get when try to run vim
[21:20] <Bashing-om> mra90: Sure - /home might be 7% - but there are other partitions that might be full - say for instance /boot filled up with old kernels or such.
[21:20] <oerheks> chromebook/crouton?
[21:21] <mra90> chromebook
[21:21] <Bashing-om> mra90: Sorry - we would know little about chromebook internals.
[21:21] <mra90> Bashing-om, only those whic hstart with /snap are 100% full
[21:21] <ferz> Ublx: sure, you have right. If you cannot check kind of keys and you don't want to verify if you have such keys on your ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on remote host matching your client keys, then don't worry.  God will fix it for you one day or another.
[21:22] <mra90> no its not chromebook interla
[21:22] <mra90> its on a ubuntu
[21:22] <mra90> cross build for chromebook
[21:22] <Bashing-om> mra90: What shows ' free ' ?
[21:22] <mra90> 15216368 avail
[21:23] <mra90> Bashing-om, ^
[21:23] <mihi> mra90, I would first make sure that you did not set a different swap directory in your .vimrc or elsewhere (":set directory" in an open vim where you have no file open)
[21:23] <mihi> and then try if you can "touch" a new file in the same directory, but with the swap file name (i.e .chromeos.swp)
[21:24] <mra90> mihi, sure i can create new file
[21:24] <Bashing-om> mra90: ^ sounds reasonale - thanks mihi :D
[21:24] <mra90> however when I hit tab key it complains
[21:24] <mra90> I mean tab in the ocnsole
[21:24] <mra90> console*
[21:24] <mra90> rm aa-bash: cannot create temp file for here-document: No space left on device
[21:25] <mra90> touch aaa.txt succeeded
[21:25] <mra90> then i wanted to remove it
[21:25] <mra90> i type aa + press a tab to autocompelte
[21:25] <mra90> and got that error message back
[21:25] <mra90> any idea?
[21:25] <mihi> try touch /tmp/abcd and /var/tmp/abcd
[21:26] <Ublx> ferz: Maybe I didn't explained well: I have a server where I do not have any key generated. I just want to login without a key but it's not possible. But on all other systems I can login.
[21:26] <Ublx> This is my main problem.
[21:26] <mra90> mihi, both succeeded
[21:26] <Ublx> In addition to that I can no more login to one my key generated ssh logins, too.
[21:28] <mihi> mra90 and you are sure that both "df" and "df -i" show free space/inodes for /home, /tmp, /var and / (in case they are separate partitions)?
[21:29] <mihi> I don't know where bash may create tempfiles, but I assume it should be one of these places...
[21:30] <mra90> df /home -h right
[21:30] <mra90> ?
[21:30] <mra90> or rather df -h /home
[21:30] <mihi> "df /home" and "df -i /home"
[21:31] <mihi> or you can just do "df / /home /tmp /var" and "df -i / /home /tmp /var"
[21:33] <mra90> yes it is full
[21:33] <mra90> now I need to locate big files
[21:33] <mra90> but its hard to search when there is no space left
[21:33] <mihi> which partition is full?
[21:34] <mra90>  /home
[21:34] <mra90> I did df /home
[21:34] <mra90> df /home
[21:34] <mra90> Filesystem     1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[21:34] <mra90>  /dev/nvme0n1p2 244568380 232300668         0 100% /
[21:35] <mihi> ah ok that is your / partition (root partition)
[21:35] <mra90> yes
[21:35] <mihi> I'd first check 'du -hs /tmp /var/log' if either of that is huge :)
[21:36] <mra90> sudo du -hs /tmp /var/log
[21:36] <mra90> 100K	/tmp
[21:36] <mra90> 906M	/var/log
[21:36] <mra90> logs I ran wipe
[21:36] <mra90> can*
[21:36] <Napk1n> hey im trying to flush dns in ubuntu 18.04 but sudo systemd-resolve --flush-caches seems to fail
[21:37] <Napk1n> dosnt recognize the command
[21:37] <Napk1n> is there anything else I can try?
[21:37] <Bashing-om> mra90: ' cd /home ; sudo du -sx * | sort -n ' to show file sizes
[21:38] <mra90> yes Bashing-om & mihi thanks!
[21:38] <mihi> Bashing-om, he said his / partition is full. Also I prefer "du -shx * | sort -h" to sort -n
[21:40] <mihi> (and being aware that this command does not include dotfiles/directories, you'd have to use "du --max-depth=1 -hx ." instead)
[21:43] <mra90> mihi, in du -shx * | sort -h
[21:43] <mra90> where do you specify home dir?
[21:43] <mra90> du -shx /home | sort -h
[21:43] <leftyfb> Napk1n: sudo systemctl restart systemd-resolved.service
[21:43] <mihi> current work directory. Or use /home/*
[21:44] <mihi> same as with your command. Just use -h twice instead of -n
[21:44] <mra90> sorry -h twice?
[21:44] <mra90> du -shx /home/* | sort -h
[21:44] <mra90> ^ this is what I run
[21:44] <Napk1n> leftyfb worked ty
[21:44] <leftyfb> Napk1n: though, sudo systemd-resolve --flush-caches # should work. Didn't you say the other day that you removed netplan and probably other things?
[21:45] <mihi> "du -s -h -x" first -h, "sort -h" second -h
[21:45] <mra90> mihi, I think it would be better to search for single big files
[21:45] <Napk1n> leftyfb no I think you are confusing me, my issue the other way was not been able to access my wesbite from my own local network
[21:46] <leftyfb> oh right
[21:46] <Napk1n> which is still my issue today xd
[21:46] <Napk1n> p.s flushing dns didn't work xd
[21:48] <mra90> I have removed 200mb file and still no space on a device hmmm
[21:48] <Napk1n> I keep reading NAT loopback can be the issue
[21:48] <Napk1n> but I dont see any NAT options in my router
[21:48] <mihi> mra90: then you can use something like "find /home -size +1024M -ls" to find files larger than 1GB. But I assume if you get rid of logs, you should get your vim working again :)
[21:49] <mihi> mra90, did you remove the file or truncate it. Can there still be processes that have the file open (likely if it is a log file)?
[21:50] <mihi> Linux will not delete a file until all processes who opened it have closed it.
[21:50] <Jordan_U> Napk1n: To be clear, you're hosting a website in your home that is available via a publicly accessible IP address, and you can access it from outside your home with that IP address, but not when you're at home. Is that correct?
[21:50] <mihi> that's why it makes sense to truncate log files instead (": > somefile") as it will reclaim space immediately without restarting services
[21:50] <mra90> mihi, removed of course
[21:51] <mra90> now I have removed few more 200M files
[21:51] <mra90> and vim started to work again
[21:52] <Napk1n> Jordan_U yea I put up the issue and some background here https://superuser.com/questions/1565706/i-cant-access-my-server-from-my-local-network?noredirect=1#comment2384587_1565706
[21:53] <Napk1n> question got closed it seems :(  but is w/e
[21:53] <Jordan_U> Napk1n: And you are able to access the website if you use the local ip address. Correct?
[21:54] <Napk1n> Jordan_U no I cant access it via local IP either
[21:54] <Napk1n> only way I can access my website from my network is using a vpn
[21:54] <Jordan_U> Napk1n: OK. What error message do you get when you try to access the website via the local ip address of the server?
[21:55] <Kali_Yuga> hello
[21:56] <crazygamer16> test
[21:56] <Napk1n> Site cant be reached (connection timed out), and when I try to connect via ssh it tells me the server refused the connection
[21:57] <kari> Test failed. Please try again.
[21:58] <Napk1n> I think I'm about to factory reset the modem, think that might help?
[21:58] <Jordan_U> Napk1n: It might. Can you back up you existing settings before doing that?
[21:58] <Napk1n> DNS cache does get saved in the modem right?
[21:59] <Jordan_U> Napk1n: Are you testing with domain names or with ip addresses? What exactly did you enter into the URL bar of your browser to test this?
[21:59] <Napk1n> Jordan_U I don't really know how to do that but my modem isn't heavily customized and would ;prolly take me 10 mins to restore the old settings at most
[22:00] <Napk1n> Jordan_U my public ipv4, the local ip of the server and also the domain name
[22:01] <Jordan_U> Napk1n: As long as using the local ip address of the server doesn't work, I wouldn't think much about DNS. You definitely have an ip accessibility problem. You may also have a DNS problem, but that would be problem #2.
[22:02] <Napk1n> Jordan_U idk what else to try anymore, I keep reading something about NAT loopback but I don't see any NAT options in my router
[22:03] <Jordan_U> Napk1n: NAT loopback or hairpin NAT should only come into play if you're using the public IP address. Again, I would not spend much time thinking about that as long as accessing with the local IP is failing.
[22:04] <Napk1n> Jordan_U is accessing my site via local IP still available even if I have it in a DMZ?
[22:05] <Jordan_U> Napk1n: That depends on the setup of your DMZ. Was it accessible via the local ip address before you started having problems?
[22:06] <Napk1n> Jordan_U I'm actually not 100% sure cause is been 6 months but I believe it was never available via local IP
[22:06] <Jordan_U> Napk1n: The fact that ping does work makes me curious as to why http(s) and ssh don't.
[22:07] <Napk1n> ping only works when I ping the local address
[22:08] <Jordan_U> Napk1n: What, if anything, are you sure did work 6 months ago?
[22:08] <Napk1n> Jordan_U yea I work on my website daily
[22:08] <Napk1n> not a day went by that I didnt access my server via ssh and https
[22:10] <Jordan_U> Napk1n: Do you remember if you were doing that via the local ip address or via the public ip address?
[22:10] <Napk1n> via public address
[22:11] <Jordan_U> Napk1n: OK, then it's likely that what has stopped working is the hairpin NAT.
[22:12] <Napk1n> would you know how to fix that? I have no clue
[22:13] <Napk1n> is it like just opening a port?
[22:14] <Jordan_U> Napk1n: I think that most consumer routers don't support hairpin NAT at all. Some may just have it enabled by default and not have a way to turn it off. If your router really doesn't have any options relating to NAT then I don't know what options you have to fix this, and it is odd that it was working but isn't anymore.
[22:14] <Jordan_U> Napk1n: It may be in the same configuration area as port forwarding, but it is different from port forwarding.
[22:14] <Jordan_U> Napk1n: What model router/modem do you have?
[22:15] <Napk1n> CODA-4582
[22:16] <Napk1n> id be willing to buy a new modem if needed tho, I dont mind, my site makes some decent income
[22:28] <MICROburst> Is someone already using this nice and shiny autoinstall stuff described here: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/please-test-autoinstalls-for-20-04/15250 ? - I would be interested to see how disk encryption works.
[22:30] <quadrathoch2> Napk1n first I would probably reset it, just to make sure that it's not a configuration error imho
[22:31] <Napk1n> quadrathoch2 you right imma go do that
[22:32] <quadrathoch2> Napk1n also when it's an ISP router, and them updating it, it could mean that they maybe removed a feature or the update messed the config up
[22:39] <Xakiz> yo
[22:51] <MICROburst> whazzup?
[22:53] <crazygamer16> hi
[22:53] <oerheks> :-)\
[22:53] <crazygamer16> anyone there
[22:53] <oerheks> nope, anyone left with everybody
[22:53] <oerheks> do you have a support issue?
[22:54] <crazygamer16> i installed Ubuntu 3 days ago