[00:01] <guiverc> Razva, what release of Ubuntu are you using?
[00:02] <guiverc> (all supported releases of Ubuntu use systemd as far as I'm aware)
[00:34] <xbfrog> yesterday i was saying i lost my pager buttons and i created a guest account and the pager buttons are there
[00:34] <xbfrog> but not in my logon
[00:34] <xbfrog> can they be restored?
[01:27] <Wamphyri> every time i try and install ubuntu i get grub-install dummy failed?
[01:32] <Tato> hello, is it possible to install ubuntu server 20.04 with mate using desktopify without ethernet?
[01:32] <Clock> Installed vnc, fired it up
[01:32] <Clock> Tried to connect to it, despite the port being open and the application running
[01:32] <Clock> It says...
[01:32] <Clock> Connection exited unexpectedly
[01:33] <Clock> Does ubuntu do something to stuff it up or?
[01:35] <Tato> how can I install ubuntu server 20.04 with mate using desktopify without ethernet on a Rpi4?
[01:36] <Clock> Good luck getting WiFi to work on ubuntu server
[01:37] <Iarla> ffDiaporama is crashing for me on 20.04 and I see it hasn't been updated since 2014. Are there any other simple apps that take photos and an mp3 and create a nice video? I'm looking for something easier than KDEnlive.
[03:29] <pyraindrop> is anyone running ubuntu 20.04lts on Ryzen 9 3900X here? What MB do you recommend?
[03:34] <abhijit> Hi all. after yesterday updates, i lost my sound drivers in 20.04 and now only seeing Dummy output. what is it? how to fix it?
[03:44] <abhijit> sudo alsa force-reload fixed it.
[03:46] <de-facto> why is gnome+radeon so unstable with chromium? e.g. closing a tab can CRASH the whole of Xorg?!
[03:47] <de-facto> also gst-plugin-scan seems to segfault according to dmesg
[03:47] <de-facto> :/
[03:48] <de-facto> which would be the most stable combination of desktop environment + graphics stack that would allow for a crash free browsing experience with chrome?
[03:48] <abhijit> KDE?
[03:49] <abhijit> de-facto, take a look at KDE Neon Distro.
[03:49] <de-facto> is that more stable than gnome3?
[03:49] <mrbirkov>  hi, is there a way to know if my HP Pavilion touchscreen is supported by latest kernel/ driver? I am on HP pavilion 1033TU
[03:49] <de-facto> abhijit, with which graphics stack behind it?
[03:49] <abhijit> not sure about more than gnome, but KDE Neon is trying to give stable KDE experience
[03:49] <abhijit> de-facto, KDE is built using QT
[03:49] <de-facto> radeon? nvidia?
[03:50] <abhijit> should work with all. ideally!
[03:50] <abhijit> check the distro support for that.
[03:50] <de-facto> yeah in an ideal world... yet gfx seems to be very unstable still with all linux distros
[03:50] <abhijit> :-)
[03:50] <de-facto> which would be the most stable stack?
[03:51] <abhijit> mrbirkov, you mean you are using same touchscreen laptop? why not just try using the touch pen to draw something?
[03:51] <abhijit> de-facto, cant compare. but i am just suggesting to take a look at kde neon once.
[03:51] <de-facto> yeah or Kubuntu or such
[03:52] <abhijit> kubuntu is not trying to do what kde neon does.
[03:52] <de-facto> every single change in gnome makes me hate it more
[03:52] <mrbirkov> abhijit, yes, i have a touchsreen HP pavilion touchscreen and want to make it work in my Ubuntu 20.04
[03:52] <abhijit> Gnome3 is my favorite and works well for me!
[03:52] <de-facto> i was always using Gnome3 but i hate it more and more over the years
[03:53] <abhijit> mrbirkov, have you already installed ubuntu ?
[03:54] <mrbirkov> abhijit, yes iam on ubuntu 20.04
[03:54] <abhijit> mrbirkov, touchscreen should work automatically
[03:56] <de-facto> never supported something functional like a task bar, notification tray, took away most useful settings so the "tweak" tool would have to provide basic settings, one of the most resource heavy DEs with still unstable shell, annoying popup spam which cant be disabled, now even desktop folders etc with nautilus were canceled, nautilus itself being very unstable crashing on remove fs like MTP or SSH etc pp
[03:56] <de-facto> and a browser should not be able to crash the whole thing
[03:56] <mrbirkov> abhijit, yes, thats why I am trying to figure out why its not detected and working
[03:58] <de-facto> but yeah now chromium-browser seems to be canceled itself i read in 20.04 only as snap, so maybe I really need to try some other options
[04:01] <de-facto> sorry just in a bad mood because i lost data due to that Gnome3 crash, should not rant in here
[04:02] <byroniac> de-facto: I'm sorry you are having problems. Did you do a clean install of Ubuntu 20.04? I dislike how "Big Brothery" and "Super Nanny" Gnome3 is getting, but I haven't had nearly the problems you are describing.
[04:03] <de-facto> i am still on 18.04
[04:04] <TheJackal> I can't seem to get Ubuntu 18.04 server installed with encryption
[04:04] <TheJackal> I don't see it on the Server Live Installer
[04:21] <mrbirkov> xinput not showing anything related to touchscreen
[04:22] <rjwiii> dumb Q: How do I  minimize all windows in 20.04?
[04:23] <TheJackal> Anyone know how to install Ubuntu with full disk encryption?
[04:24] <quadrathoch2> TheJackal it should be under adanced (when you decide how ubuntu gets installed
[04:25] <rjwiii> nm ... figured it out ...
[04:27] <TheJackal> I think the issue is that that's not an option on the server install, only desktop
[04:29] <quadrathoch2> TheJackal let me have a sec, and I boot up a vm
[04:29] <TheJackal> Thanks, quadrathoch2
[04:30] <TheJackal> You are the greatest
[04:30] <monkwitdafunk> hello! if i install ubutnu 20.04 on the latest and greatest hardware, do you think i should just dual boot windows 10 home and ubuntu server?
[04:31] <quadrathoch2> monkwitdafunk it really depends on what you want to do with that pc
[04:31] <TheJackal> If you really need a server, then I would use a different machine
[04:32] <TheJackal> If you just need desktop, why not?
[04:32] <monkwitdafunk> pass linux professional institute exams at a pearson vue testing centre
[04:32] <TheJackal> To pass an exam?  Ha!  Then dual boot
[04:32] <monkwitdafunk> i really cant harden an operating system if i dont have the foundation
[04:34] <quadrathoch2> TheJackal https://imgur.com/a/euQyPx3
[04:35] <quadrathoch2> monkwitdafunk if you really have a powerful machine, you could just fire up a vm, so you wouldn't need to dual boot (which for most people is tedious)
[04:35] <monkwitdafunk> jackal, do you play web browser games?
[04:35] <monkwitdafunk> i wish i could fire a VM
[04:35] <TheJackal> Where did you get that install?  Mine doesn't look like that
[04:35] <TheJackal> Do you have a link?
[04:35] <monkwitdafunk> im buying the cheapest laptop thats brand new. the best thing about it is that it has power-on pass
[04:36] <monkwitdafunk> if somebody tries to jack it, a pc tech cant refurbish it in a criminal manner
[04:36] <quadrathoch2> TheJackal that's just the normal live install 18.04 server install
[04:37] <quadrathoch2> TheJackal https://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04.4/ubuntu-18.04.4-live-server-amd64.iso
[04:38] <TheJackal> Thanks I'm going to try it again
[04:40] <speeder39_> Hello anyone around
[04:40] <TheJackal> I'm drinking Chilean red wine.  Happy birthday, America!
[04:41] <speeder39_> Hi TheJackal are you in the USA
[04:46] <TheJackal> Yes, I am
[04:46] <TheJackal> I have traveled the world, but I live in USA now
[04:48] <TheJackal> I am dating a Russian woman
[04:48] <TheJackal> oh the joys
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> !ot | TheJackal
[04:51] <TheJackal> haha ubottu, I'm human
[05:30] <CaptainAmerica> to the guy who posted the 18.04 linux server link, can you please post it again?
[05:32] <quadrathoch2> https://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04.4/ubuntu-18.04.4-live-server-amd64.iso
[05:36] <CaptainAmerica> Thanks
[05:36] <CaptainAmerica> I'm pretty sure that's the one I used before
[05:36] <CaptainAmerica> Which didn't have the encryption option
[05:36] <CaptainAmerica> It may be due to hardware differences
[05:36] <CaptainAmerica> I'm trying to install on an HP Proliant Server
[05:37] <CaptainAmerica> Anyway, I'm going to try it again
[05:39] <quadrathoch2> CaptainAmerica, hardware shouldn't make a difference
[05:48] <CaptainAmerica> Oh hardware can absolutely make a difference
[05:48] <CaptainAmerica> drivers are the biggest problem with linux
[05:49] <CaptainAmerica> It's about the only thing better about Windows
[05:50] <quadrathoch2> well as the feature in the installer won't get hidden if you have 'special' hardware, it _should_ be there
[05:50] <CaptainAmerica> I don't have that feature
[05:51] <quadrathoch2> did you update the installer? or no internet?
[05:51] <CaptainAmerica> I wrote it out to USB
[05:51] <CaptainAmerica> brb
[05:53] <CaptainAmerica> That was it, quackgyver
[05:53] <CaptainAmerica> err quadrathoch2
[05:53] <CaptainAmerica> Good job
[05:53] <CaptainAmerica> Thanks
[05:53] <quadrathoch2> CaptainAmerica :)
[05:54]  * CaptainAmerica bows to quadrathoch2
[05:59] <CaptainAmerica> Anything I could help you with?
[05:59] <CaptainAmerica> Wash your car?   :)
[06:02] <quadrathoch2> lol :), if you ask it that way ;)
[06:18] <mrbirkov> hi i got this issue. no sound after reboot. Had it working before but unsure what I did to make it working. after rebooting no voice again. sound card is detected and driver  loaded. using snd-hda-intel
[06:18] <mrbirkov> been hours figuring out this
[06:19] <mrbirkov> tried reinstalled alsa
[06:19] <mrbirkov> restart and all
[06:43] <john_rambo>  Hi, I am getting this while trying to stream an online music channel >>>> https://ibb.co/njctXft
[06:43] <john_rambo>  Is there a way to solve this ?
[06:58] <guiverc> john_rambo, have you enabled DRM content on your browser?
[07:54] <amosbird> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty InRelease
[07:54] <amosbird> Err http://security.ubuntu.com trusty-security InRelease
[07:55] <amosbird> Ign https://esm.ubuntu.com trusty-infra-security InRelease
[07:55] <amosbird> ...., when building ubuntu docker image, apt errors
[07:55] <amosbird> however I can definitely reaches those sites
[07:56] <tomreyn> !trusty | amosbird
[07:57] <tomreyn> paid support is available (but not by the volunteers over here)
[07:58] <amosbird> interesting
[08:00] <overclock> yeah
[08:02] <amosbird> it's actually a docker issue
[08:09] <ViperXL75> good morning. I got an old 1Tb NTFS drive which i'm going to change to EXT4. First (dumb) question of the day. Which tool does Ubuntu have to do that? Do i have to dive into CLI ?
[08:10] <ViperXL75> or can that "Disks" Gui get the job done?
[08:10] <BeavisOnFire> Disks gets the job done.
[08:11] <ViperXL75> thank you
[08:11] <ViperXL75> :)
[08:12] <ViperXL75> aaaand the application closed/crash.
[08:12] <ViperXL75> xD
[08:13] <ViperXL75> gonna try to relaunch it as root
[08:14] <overclock> mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdx
[08:14] <ViperXL75> ah
[08:14] <ViperXL75> i guess that will make (in my case /dev/sdb) an ext4 immediately
[08:14] <ViperXL75> nice
[08:15] <tomreyn> ViperXL75: do you actually want the file system on the immediate disk, or do you want a partition table on it, too?
[08:16] <ViperXL75> not sure
[08:16] <ViperXL75> I'm not gonna boot any system from it
[08:16] <ViperXL75> it's just an old drive to download junk.... fool around with it.
[08:16] <ViperXL75> then delete the files
[08:18] <tomreyn> you'd want a partition table if you're likely going to have more than one file system (and partition) on it, want to use it with other OSes. other than that, what you're saying sounds like you'll be fine with the direct approach.
[08:18] <ViperXL75> nah
[08:18] <ViperXL75> :)
[08:18] <ViperXL75> Thanks it worked it seems
[08:18] <ViperXL75> now to re-mount it
[08:23] <ViperXL75> i used this 1Tb drive back in the old days when i didnt trust/understand the typical linux file system with rights etc...
[08:23] <ViperXL75> so i thought... "make it simple so linux can't lock you out of ur folders. Worse case scenario you boot an USB and grab ur files and RUN!!!"
[08:24] <ViperXL75> 11 years later... totally in love and ready for a long-term commitment with something else than NTFS
[08:24] <ViperXL75> xD
[08:31] <echoSMILE> which tool (with GUI) can I use to set the monitor colors settings ?
[08:32] <echoSMILE> I already have Arandr for xrandr, is ther eany GUI for xgamma ?
[08:32] <echoSMILE> s/ther eany/there any
[08:37] <ViperXL75> interesting
[08:37] <ViperXL75> the file system is mounted via FSTAB.
[08:38] <ViperXL75> UUID=aabf3af8-9a9f-473c-a253-a4891f30d39f /mnt/DaBoss     ext4 defaults,nofail,discard 0 0
[08:38] <ViperXL75> I was able via CLI to even make a folder in there
[08:38] <ViperXL75> yet from the GUI it says that it is not mounted
[08:38] <ViperXL75> lol
[10:05] <Napk1n> quadrathoch2 hey bud just wanted to tell you thanks for the help these past few days, and believe it or not the issue resiolved itself, yesterday i literally gave up on it
[10:05] <Napk1n> and half way through the day today it started working as if nothing ever happened
[10:33] <Grobo> I'm trying to use vino under lubuntu. There isn't "vino-preferences" (from the wiki) and I don't see an option to "enable screen sharing". How can I get this to work?
[10:45] <tomreyn> Grobo: vino is integrated into gnome/ gnome-shell (which is ubuntu's default graphical desktop). lubuntu uses a different graphical desktop and window manager. i don't know whether it works as easily and as well there.
[10:46] <tomreyn> Grobo: which "the wiki" are you referring to? (URLs help)
[11:34] <ViperXL75> I'm a bit confused (as usual). I changed an old NTFS disk to ext4 using "mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdx". Worked like a charm. The weird thing is, within 'gnome-disks' menu i see it still not mounted. If i try to mount it, i get an unknown error. If i go and manually add a line to fstab to mount it for em, it gets mounted fine, but 'gnome-disks' itself still sees it as not-mounted.
[11:34] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:34] <ViperXL75> morning BluesKaj
[11:35] <BluesKaj> 'Morning ViperXL75
[11:35] <ViperXL75> I tried removing the line from /etc/fstab "UUID=aabf3af8-9a9f-473c-a253-a4891f30d39f /mnt/DaBoss     ext4 defaults,nofail,discard 0 0".
[11:35] <ViperXL75> Then i can mount it from within GUI  'gnome-disks'.
[11:36] <ViperXL75> Does the 'gnome-disks' write changes to fstab on its own or something?
[11:39] <BluesKaj> probly only the default disk where the OS and boot files are installed
[11:39] <tomreyn> thats possible. gnome applications often do not come along with a lot of documentation, so you'd need to read the source code or test what it does. that's probably one of the reasons many prefer to use better documented CLI utilities which traditionally provide better error messages than GUI applications do. and usually come with better documentation.
[11:40] <ViperXL75> hmm ok
[11:40] <ViperXL75> i would hate to say Ubuntu20.04 is behaving "funny"
[11:45] <tomreyn> you should read up more. in the desktop world, there are two ways to mount file systems. fstab is the classic standard approach for defining which file systems can be mounted and which should be mounted during boot. there's also gio and udisks which is used for user initiated mounts, such as through the graphical file browser.
[11:46] <tomreyn> and there's the mount command which can mount what's defined in fstab, or mount other file systems at other locations as specified.
[11:47] <ViperXL75> ohhhhhh
[11:47] <ViperXL75> And does mounting it through one system (in this case fstab) make it behave oddly when aproaching it via the Nautilus GUI of Ubuntu 20.04 ?
[11:48] <ViperXL75> cuz i can "see" the empty drive. I can manually make folders.
[11:48] <ViperXL75> But when it try to copy files from another drive to it, i get the error that its fully
[11:48] <ViperXL75> *full
[11:48] <ViperXL75> (just reformated the whole drive so it's rather empty)
[11:48] <Spock_ncc1701> Hi guys, what are the criteria to open the captive portal browser? I have a captive portal that does not causes the browser window to open
[11:55] <tomreyn> ViperXL75: these mounts may behave differently, whether one oif them is "odd" is probably up to you to decide, based on unknown criteria.
[11:57] <ViperXL75> ok
[11:58] <tomreyn> ViperXL75: if you want to access a file system as a restricted user, such as the one you'll run your graphical desktop as, you should either prefer mounting via gio mount/nautilus/udiskctl or use the "mount" command against a file system defined in fstab with the "user" option
[11:59] <tomreyn> see the "Non-superuser mounts" parapgraph in the mount(8) !man page on the latter
[12:01] <ViperXL75> ah
[12:01] <theInspector> So this might not be the right place for this, but is there a channel / place for Actiona help?
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> !alis | theInspector
[12:04] <theInspector> Oh wow, thank you! I didn't know about this.
[13:09] <Sven_vB> on focal, I tried "nmcli radio wifi on && nmcli radio" but the only visible result was the connectivity table, with wifi still off. in syslog I found: audit: op="radio-control" arg="wireless-enabled" ??? result="fail" reason="Not authorized to perform this operation" ??? is there a way to make nmcli print the reason to stderr as well if it fails, and/or at least exit non-zero?
[13:42] <sorcerer> anyone else have issues with running openarena (installed from apt like always) and 20.04?
[13:42] <sorcerer> on both PCs im getting VM initialization errors?
[13:50] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: i can't answer your question, but note there is also the "rfkill" command, which - i think - does more or less the same as §nmcli radio"
[13:50] <tomreyn> sorcerer: maybe this is bug 1651561 ?
[13:50] <tomreyn> other bug reports are listed at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openarena
[13:56] <sorcerer> i found the bug no answer on it unfortunately
[13:57] <sorcerer> gonna see if installing from src will work over the apt-get
[13:58] <Sven_vB> tomreyn, thanks! Indeed I did successfully unblock all adapters in rfkill before the above scenario happened. I was wondering myself why wifi would still show up as off in the connectiviry table. in Xenial, NetworkManager was rather aggressive in synchronizing all those toggles, even annyoing me because it would not allow me to switch on/off different wifi antennae individually.
[14:05] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: that's all i know about it, i'm afraid. if the hint on syslog about permissions is correct, this could hint to use sudo or that apparmor is getting in the way.
[14:06] <tomreyn> sorcerer: i must have read it differently to you: there are statements in there suggesting that a file in the ubuntu package can be broken or incomplete.
[14:07] <tomreyn> as well as suggestions on how to work around this.
[14:12] <mfilipe[m]> is there any good software to check the disk usage and which folder consumes more space?
[14:13] <semitones> if you are in ubuntu mfilipe[m] look for disk usage analyzer
[14:13] <semitones> it's pretty fast and easy to learn if you click around in it
[14:15] <Sven_vB> tomreyn, once I found the reason, I retried with a user that is in the netdev group and it worked. so the only problem is the bad feedback, silence + return value 0.
[14:18] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: maybe worth filing a bug report. if there's not already one on the *current* bug tracker.
[14:20] <Sven_vB> maybe later :)
[14:20] <mfilipe[m]> semitones: tks :)
[14:26] <Petfrogg> hello
[14:27] <Petfrogg> I need to "fake" that the machine needs a reboot is "sudo touch /var/run/reboot-required" all I need to do?
[14:33] <quadrathoch2> Petfrogg why would you need to fake a neededreboot?
[14:38] <kent> Wine complains of lack of wine gecko, but there seems to be no gecko deb package in the archives?
[14:42] <quadrathoch2> kent as long as you don't need that package, I wouldn't bother
[14:43] <kent> quadrathoch2: seems I needed it. I installed wine from winehq instead.
[14:43] <quadrathoch2> kent only because wine complains about it, doesn't mean you need it
[14:44] <kent> quadrathoch2: well, you are correct.  But the program I tried to run opens up a webpage which is blank, so I think I need it..
[14:44] <quadrathoch2> kent well that could be
[15:02] <louis771> Anyone running U20.04 on X1 Carbon 8th Gen already?
[15:02] <coconut> louis771, only on an X1 extreme gen2
[15:03] <louis771> any issues with wireless?
[15:04] <coconut> louis771, nope what worked out of the box with ubuntu mate 20.04(only needed nomodeset on live usb, but that was due to graphics card i believe)
[15:05] <louis771> had kubuntu installed and wireless broke after a few days. couldn't get it running again no matter what. now I'm running stock ubuntu and got the first error after about 20 hours
[15:06] <louis771> hope it was a one-timer, otherwise I've to go back to Fedora 32
[15:11] <coconut> louis771, i am running 20.04 ubuntu mate since 06-06-2020 without issues here.
[15:13] <louis771> glad to hear.. nice machine btw. since when do you have it?
[15:14] <coconut> louis771, begin of June
[15:14] <louis771> and happy?
[15:15] <coconut> louis771, yes, although my last macbook pro 10.1 had it's display *a lot* better(the colors)
[15:16] <coconut> but i am happy with it
[15:18] <louis771> switch from a mbp too, just glad to not be stuck in the a$$le ecosystem anymore. however, yes the screen and audio is hard to beat
[15:18] <coconut> agree
[15:22] <coconut> louis771, oh... btw, i have the x1 with the uhd(4k) panel
[15:24] <nonix4> reasonably priced high quality panels are somewhat rare... prefer ones that ship with factory color calibration reports included, unless you have color calibration eq.
[15:25] <coconut> so it might be that the carbon has it's display less great than the optional display(4k) of the extreme (i have not checked)
[15:31] <coconut> nonix4, i had the option for calibration the screen not enabled on my order(i assumed that it would not be calibrated for me anyway since i would go away from windows to ubuntu)
[15:36] <AquaL1te> quick question, why doesn't ubuntu use selinux, like fedora? i know the differences, was it perhaps that selinux was too much work because it's more complex to manage?
[15:37] <quadrathoch2> AquaL1te because ubuntu uses AppArmor
[15:38] <AquaL1te> quadrathoch2: i know, but why?
[15:38] <quadrathoch2> why not? it's just another implementation that restricts the access
[15:38] <quadrathoch2> and selinux has it's history with a 3 letter agency, so some people think there could be holes in it
[15:40] <AquaL1te> quadrathoch2: just trying to understand the reasoning. because on paper selinux is stronger, downside is that it's more complex to setup. but i thought, if fedora already did it, then why use something weaker
[15:40] <quadrathoch2> AquaL1te and why do you think it's weaker?
[15:43] <quadrathoch2> also on the side, fedora+rhel are the only distributions using selinux (on the larger scale) so there is a reason why all the other ones avoid it (probably, never really looked too much into it)
[15:43] <leftyfb> AquaL1te: feel free to ask here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-hardened
[15:45] <AquaL1te> quadrathoch2: if you enable selinux withour proper rules, it won't boot because it restricts functionality. i have apparmor on my raspberry pi, but only includes some rules for e.g. cups. you can't just protect cups with selinux. it's a full system implementation. that's why i think it's stronger. if you would compare it to iptables, apparmor seems to have the default chain behavior on 'accept', while
[15:45] <AquaL1te> selinux has it on 'drop'. so you have to allow things with selinux, and deny things with apparmor. that seems a weaker design. because allowing behaviour you want is easier than trying to guess everything that shouldn't happen.
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> quadrathoch2 AquaL1te lets avoid polls here, go with the advice leftyfb mentions, or #ubuntu-discuss to discuss
[15:49] <jak2000> hi how to remove, chrome ask a password?
[15:49] <AquaL1te> lotuspsychje: true (i'm also theming my irssi at the moment, so i also needed to test colors for mentions and other theme stuff with this convo :)
[16:16] <Sven_vB> what program do Ubuntu and Xubuntu focal use to persist clipboard content after the program that copied it exits?
[16:22]  * Sven_vB found https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClipboardPersistence
[16:31] <ViperXL75> damnit. I literally can't get rid of an old NTFS mapping on my machine
[16:32] <ViperXL75> i formatted the drive to ext4 hours ago.
[16:32] <ViperXL75> Even removed the whole 'ntfs-3g' from my machine with 'apt remove ntfs-3g'
[16:33] <ViperXL75> Yet when i type "mount -a" i keep getting: mount: /mnt/DaBoss: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs-3g'
[16:33] <ViperXL75> And if i remove that folder/mountpoint "/mnt/DaBoss" the damn thing pops up after a reboot.  -_-
[16:34] <quadrathoch2> ViperXL75 sounds like you have an entry in /etc/fstabl
[16:34] <quadrathoch2> -l
[16:35] <ViperXL75> removed it from there too.
[16:36] <ViperXL75> thing is, now when i try to mount the "reformatted" drive to that point, from within Gnome GUI, it spits out errors. Which are probably due to that mountpoint already being in used by some mysterious process still kicking it alive.
[16:36] <ViperXL75> omg
[16:36] <ViperXL75> brb
[16:36] <mfilipe[m]> how could i force zfs to write the data into the harddisk? sometimes when i reboot my pc, sounds like i get the older state of the filesystem
[16:37] <ViperXL75> Turns out i was trying to comment out the old fstab lines using semicolon ";" instead of the hash "#".
[16:37] <ViperXL75> Hours of my life that i'll never get back.  :(
[16:38] <quadrathoch2> ViperXL75 eh, lesson learned :)
[16:47] <ViperXL75> hey i have a rather weird question maybe
[16:47] <ViperXL75> but when i do an "ls -l", the months on the file listing appears in some strange language
[16:48] <ViperXL75> août juil. mai
[16:48] <ViperXL75> supposed to be August... July... May
[16:49] <zutat> ViperXL75: what's the output of "locale"?
[16:50] <ViperXL75> uhuu
[16:50] <ViperXL75> funfact is that the rest of the CLI responds in english (as i wanted it to)
[16:50] <ViperXL75> it's just those months that keeps showing in that strange language
[16:51] <zutat> ViperXL75: what's the output of "date"?
[16:51] <ViperXL75> And if i ssh into it or login locallly and open the CLI from the GUI, it will show the same
[16:51] <ViperXL75> dim. 05 juil. 2020 18:51:39 CEST
[16:52] <zutat> your LC_TIME is probably set to some latin-based language
[16:53] <ViperXL75> u just gave me the right nudge in the right direction there
[16:53] <ViperXL75> hold on
[16:54] <ViperXL75> found it. Region settings. The "Formats" was set to French.   wtf?!?   lol. Changed it to UK now. Thanks man.
[16:54] <Salatwurzel> "juil" is french for july afaik
[16:54] <Salatwurzel> ah, nvm
[16:54] <Salatwurzel> you got it :D
[16:54] <ViperXL75> well zutat gave me the right nudge
[16:54] <ViperXL75> ;)
[17:42] <Sven_vB> https://ppa.launchpad.net/rolfbensch/sane-git/ubuntu/dists/focal/Release tries to use an SSL certificate that certifies hostname private-ppa.launchpad.net, and thus is invalid. So I try https://private-ppa.launchpad.net/rolfbensch/sane-git/ubuntu/dists/focal/Release but that's a 404. I know I could just use http://ppa.launchpad.net/rolfbensch/sane-git/ubuntu/dists/focal/Release because why protect the transmission when the expected
[17:42] <Sven_vB> content is signed, but still, why the strange server config?
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> Sven_vB: contact the maintainer of the ppa?
[17:43] <Sven_vB> lotuspsychje, I doubt they control the webserver :)
[17:44]  * Sven_vB checks if there's a Launchpad channel though.
[17:45] <Sven_vB> found their FAQ forum. :)
[17:47] <Sven_vB> and found the bug ticket, https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1473091 .
[17:57] <rr123> if i chose to encrypt the whole hard drive, will it be accessible for single-user-mode
[17:58] <oerheks> rr123, yes
[17:59] <rr123> trying to make sure nobody can change root password: 1. lock down BIOS(no usb/cd/pxe boot). 2. lock down grub menu 3. make sure hard drive is not readable unless you have tke ye
[17:59] <rr123> s/tke ye/the key/
[17:59] <oerheks> bios password, some machines give a boot password option
[17:59] <rr123> just realized my kid use single user mode to unlock root so he can install all those games
[18:00] <oerheks> also in single user mode you still need the key
[18:00] <rr123> grub can mandate a key for boot into single user mode
[18:00] <rr123> when you say 'in single user mode you still need the key' do you mean the harddrive encrypt key?
[18:01] <rr123> if only I know the hard drive encrypt key that I might not care about single-user-mode, as long as the hard drive is encrypted without my key, the root can not do much
[18:03] <rr123> ubuntu should have this option at installation to make sure unless you have the root password you can't do single-user-mode or change root password, the only way to change is livecd or usb boot, which can be controlled in BIOS and it's beyond ubuntu itself
[18:03] <rr123> going to try this thing in a virtualbox
[18:05] <oerheks> one cannot change root password without the key.
[18:05] <oerheks> but go ahead, test  it.
[18:07] <quadrathoch2> rr123 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB/Tips_and_tricks#Password_protection_of_GRUB_menu
[18:07] <oerheks> he found that option already
[18:08] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: as !alis could have told you, there's also #launchpad (but note the /topic there)
[18:08] <quadrathoch2> ahh okay
[18:08] <rr123> thanks, vbox--ing
[18:09] <Sven_vB> tomreyn, yeah I found that. it just took a moment for me to remember that even if LP might be supported here, the more specialized channel could nonetheless be worth a look. :)
[18:12] <tomreyn> Sven_vB: !PPA 's are generally unsupported (except maybe by their maintainers), and the Launchpad platform itself (as a technical infrastructure) isn't supported on this channel. So, yes, #launchpad would be more suitable, but they prefer different channels for support (as you probably read by now).
[18:21] <Assid> is there  a way i can customize a live ubuntu desktop.. one thats booted over pxe
[18:24] <oerheks> Assid, sure, there is Cubic https://askubuntu.com/questions/741753/how-to-use-cubic-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-image
[18:25] <Assid> can i not make my pxe boot as persistent. do the changes i need to .. and then remove the peristent flag
[18:26] <oerheks> no, that is not how it works.
[18:27] <oerheks> you can use mkusb to use the empty space as writable.
[18:27] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb
[19:43] <strive> I'm completely stumped over this: https://ibb.co/1XFdSHZ
[19:47] <monkwitdafunk> hi users of ubuntu channel on freenode dot net. what is ubuntu core?
[19:49] <BeavisOnFire> https://ubuntu.com/core
[19:49] <monkwitdafunk> thank you BeavisOnFire
[19:49] <monkwitdafunk> if i have a window manager, then does that mean i can use a mouse?
[19:49] <monkwitdafunk> what kind of window managers can use? i dont have any hardware right now
[19:50] <monkwitdafunk> im buying one next month
[19:50] <monkwitdafunk> do i need a window manager to use Xorg
[19:50] <monkwitdafunk> linuxcollections.com is sending me ubuntu server by mail so im excited
[20:10] <oerheks> https://snapcraft.io/bridge-designer
[20:51] <tomreyn> strive: "no such device" isn't the same as "no such file".
[20:51] <strive> tomreyn: noted! Thanks for that. I figured out that I didn't have a floppy controller on the VM...my mistake :(
[20:52] <tomreyn> :)
[21:15] <Rob_Jones> how do i change the command line display name
[21:15] <Rob_Jones> mine currently says rob@127:~$
[21:15] <EriC^^> what do you want it
[21:16] <Rob_Jones> ideally Rob and the path I am on
[21:16] <Rob_Jones> if its not easy for path
[21:16] <Rob_Jones> then just rob will do
[21:18] <EriC^^> Rob_Jones: type PS1='\u:\w\$ '
[21:19] <EriC^^> if you want it "Rob" then do PS1='Rob:\w\$ '
[21:20] <EriC^^> Rob_Jones: then add it to your .bashrc to make it run it automatically when you start a shell
[21:22] <Rob_Jones> cheers
[21:45] <kent> is there some way to tell if a computer has room for another harddrive without opening the chassie? Sort of like seeing if it has a free ram-slot, but for hardrive..
[21:47] <jeremy31> Kent, if it is a laptop, it might be doubtful
[21:47] <kent> its a stationary computer.  But I would rather not take the chassie apart,  :)
[21:51] <kent> dmidecode might have done the trick. It says 2 SATA slots. Just not sure if its detected drives, or usable slots
[21:59] <SpeCon> Hello, i have a real dumb question about the file manager in Ubuntu. For example when i join a folder wich contains files. How can i show those files in Preview like in windows ? For example if the files doesn't contain a logical name its hard to find the file i'm searching. In windows you can select preview mode so you can see little tumbnails of the files. Then its easier to find the picture or file i am searching
[22:00] <SpeCon> for example picture1.png ( its just the name you see an not a little preview of the picture)
[22:03] <freemint> Can someone explain me the inst coloumn from https://popcon.ubuntu.com/unknown/by_inst ?
[22:04] <oerheks> line #4 <inst> is the number of people who installed this package;
[22:04] <SpeCon> nevermind i'm going to install dolphin wich has a build in preview mode
[22:04] <oerheks> https://popcon.ubuntu.com/unknown/by_vote
[22:05] <freemint> Over what time frame?
[22:05] <freemint> This month? Since 1970?
[22:06] <monkwitdafunk> how do you restart inti on the command line?
[22:06] <monkwitdafunk> init*
[22:06] <oerheks> since 4.04 ?
[22:08] <oerheks> nowadays ubuntu uses systemd, not sure why you want to restart init?
[22:08] <monkwitdafunk> pid 1 i mean
[22:09] <monkwitdafunk> i spent $300 on ebooks and i dont have an x86 64bit computer to install until i wait a month
[22:09] <monkwitdafunk> i was readig linux pocket guide
[22:09] <oerheks> interesting
[22:10] <monkwitdafunk> the distro fatdog64 has the ability to restart the desktop enviroment by killing a process tree so im wondering what the command would be
[22:10] <monkwitdafunk> it would also prevent zombie processes and having to use ps to look at the Z state processes that tells you so
[22:11] <monkwitdafunk> i cant wait until i get my ubuntu DVD and laptop
[22:11] <monkwitdafunk> all i can do now is read and chat
[22:12] <monkwitdafunk> help would be very much appreciated, thank you
[22:26] <Jordan_U> monkwitdafunk: You don't want to restart pid 1. Also, any form of "restarting" (it can't stop, or you'd get a kernel panic) would not help with zombie processes. Zombie processes are either caused by parent process (which are *not* PID1) failing to reap children or by a process stuck in a blocking system call. Neither is the fault of PID 1, and can't be fixed by PID 1 either.
[22:37] <monkwitdafunk> Jordan_U: does seccompprevent any need for a child process to turn into a zombie?
[22:54] <Jordan_U> monkwitdafunk: Not in any way that I'm aware of. Is there a reason you're so concerned about Zombie processes?
[23:16] <monkwitdafunk> no i just want to make ubuntu like fatdog64. i have to check out docs for systemctl and find out how to run casper
[23:16] <monkwitdafunk> i dont have the ability yet
[23:35] <cyberbootje> Hi all, i'm having an interesting issue with my touchscreen laptop. The touchscreen is not working when booted but if i suspend the laptop (or does it automatically) and awake it again the touchscreen does work. Any clue how to fix this?
[23:39] <Peppi> hello
[23:41] <Peppi> I'm trying to install 20.04 LTS on an old laptop. I've burnt the usb stick but for whatever reason I can't get the computer to boot off of the USB stick. Is there any way to tell where the problem is?
[23:45] <Bashing-om> !md5sum | Peppi Did you check ?
[23:48] <EriC^^> Peppi: when you say you cant get it to boot, what exactly do you mean
[23:49] <Biessie> my ubuntu server isn't resolving DNSs ... my ZNC can't connect to freenode but im on the same network on my mac and it connects just fine
[23:50] <Biessie> i tried both sudo /etc/init.d/dns-clean start AND sudo systemd-resolve --flush-caches
[23:50] <Biessie> any suggestions?
[23:54] <Biessie> i just did an upgrade also.. think that may have been the issue. it was working before the update