[18:36] Tuhin: o/ [18:49] hi pavlushka [18:50] hi, how are you? [18:50] i m okay [18:50] how r u doing [18:50] likewise [18:50] staying home? [18:50] yep [18:50] good, stay safe [18:50] my country (Italy) has suspended flights from Bangladesh after allowing them for a short time, i think, because they think the situation is not under control there [18:51] they found some corona infected in the flight to iraly [18:51] italy [18:51] yes, some 30 people out of 200 on the flight, or so [18:51] you r bengali? [18:51] no i am italian [18:52] great [18:52] LjL: ben to Bangladesh? [18:52] s/ben/been [18:52] pavlushka meant to say: LjL: been to Bangladesh? [18:52] no, i haven't travelled much in my life, i've never actually left the EU, i don't have a passport [18:52] i'm here because of Brainsorm providing earthquake info [18:53] but i follow international news more than italian ones usually [18:53] i also follow international news alot [18:53] LjL: you don't have a passport, that doesn't suffice, well you can get one :p [18:53] i warned my family and friends about preparing for virus back in January [18:53] pavlushka, well of course :P i'm just saying i've been in so few countries i haven't needed one [18:54] Tuhin, i was frustrating when other people weren't listening [18:54] u can travel all over europe anyway [18:54] it was obvious in January that they virus would become a worldwide thing [18:54] yes [18:54] i wanred people about lot other stuff [18:54] but sometimes the obvious is scary so people don't believe it :\ [18:54] they all prefer to stay asleep [18:55] i shopped over 1000 Euro worth of food and stuff to stock [18:55] started on January 22 and finished by February [18:56] got a big deep fridge and filled it up 100% to the top door level [18:57] Tuhin: the best thing is that you are talking, being in Italy. [18:57] how all of u have prepared ? [18:57] i m not @ europe or italy [18:58] I didnt visit outside BD last 30 years [18:58] Tuhin: we have vegs in our back yard with fish in pond, it provided us and others well. [18:59] i live in DHaka and there is no vegetable field or pond.... [18:59] all i see is mosquito homes [19:00] u know, those holes with some water, those have no fish, only mosquitoes [19:01] so it was necessary to do all those prepping [19:01] and also Mangoes and litchis, so not that bad [19:01] staying outside dhaka have benefits it seems [19:01] last i went out was on 23rd March [19:02] Tuhin: yep, a bit slow and less productive maybe [19:02] 105 days staying home.... [19:03] my parents have all kind of old age health problems to gotta stay safe [19:03] same worries here [19:03] s/to/so [19:03] Tuhin meant to say: my parents have all kind of old age health problems so gotta stay safe [19:04] any of u lost any relatives /friends/ known people to virus ? [19:04] Tuhin: By the grace of almighty, nope [19:04] i lost my uncle, aunt and my elder brother lost his father-in-law [19:05] and another distant relative [19:05] the shop keeper next to my home lost a cousin [19:06] sad [19:06] another known people died coz he could not get hospital bed for heart+kidney+diabetes problem, he was too frail [19:06] but didnt get corona [19:07] so, the gov numbers are inaccurate [19:07] it was expected [19:07] almost all countries under reporting the death numbers [19:08] the Gov are so scared , they blocked many ip/servers even game servers ... [19:09] my niece wants to play "Smite" and everytime she opens the game, the internet totally stops working for 6-8 hours .... [19:10] Tuhin: who is counting? no one is going out as a consensus, the counts are only those reported in, hospitals are functioning like a ghost town. [19:10] s/consensus/census [19:10] s/as a consensus/for a census [19:10] pavlushka meant to say: Tuhin: who is counting? no one is going out as a census, the counts are only those reported in, hospitals are functioning like a ghost town. [19:10] pavlushka meant to say: Tuhin: who is counting? no one is going out for a census, the counts are only those reported in, hospitals are functioning like a ghost town. [19:12] so my internet is not working for last 3 days [19:12] Tuhin: what is the connection setup? through optical-media-converter/onu/cat5? [19:12] coz my nice opens that game and the internet totally stops .... [19:12] cat5 [19:13] s/nice/niece [19:13] Tuhin meant to say: coz my niece opens that game and the internet totally stops .... [19:13] Tuhin: that hangs their switch from which the cat5 is provided [19:13] why? [19:13] all other stuff works fine [19:13] Tuhin: change the connection to optical-fiber with onu device [19:13] costly [19:14] Tuhin: all other stuff like? [19:14] have TV boy, 2 tablets, 4-5 wifi android phones, 2-3 laptops [19:14] all connected to same router [19:14] all works same time [19:14] but the internet was gone when only 1 laptop was active [19:15] Tuhin: so only the laptop does not get the internet? [19:16] all device [19:17] <Tuhin> all other stuff works fine [19:17] what do you mean by that then? [19:18] Tuhin: and also the that Laptop OS? [19:18] b4 stoped working [19:18] brb [19:18] win10 [19:18] brb [19:19] Tuhin: so it seems my guess is the possibility, pavlushka> Tuhin: that hangs their switch from which the cat5 is provided [19:22] Tuhin: changing the connection setup might cost you 5k but considering your device count and so the usage, it worth upgrading [19:23] Tuhin: also curious about the router brand. [19:43] back [19:43] its Tplink 741 [19:44] other time that router works fine with all those devices connected and heavy using the internet [19:45] but when the game was launched, other devices were not using the internet , but as soon as it tries to Login, it freezes and internet goes away [19:45] all other devices also loses the internet [19:45] Tuhin: i was guessing, faced same issue but that was someone else router, whenever hes starts using internet, the switch hangs from where my connection also provided [19:45] tplink [19:46] the ISP switch must have other users conencted to it too [19:46] btw, the game worked fine an logged in fine when i enabled the kaspersky 200MB free VPN secure connection.... [19:46] as soon as the 200MB free was finished, the game stopped working [19:47] and also the internet .... [19:47] Tuhin: they are facing it but cant guess the reason [19:47] so the game works fine over VPN...... [19:47] i dont use vpn ..... but this game made me think about using vpn now lol [19:48] the isp also said either get a new router or dont open the game...... [19:48] so, if the game works fine over VPN using the same router, then the router is not at issue here, nor is their switch [19:49] Tuhin: yes the other option is that you can pay for a vpn service [19:49] it has to do with the ISP or Gov blocking the game server.... [19:50] i dont have credit card and dont want to pay for VPN for 1 game .... [19:50] Tuhin: just get a better router, will cost you less that changing connection setup [19:50] if the router is bad then how it worked fine over VPN [19:50] vpn uses more network activity [19:51] Tuhin: there's something with port [19:51] ? [19:51] plz explain [19:51] like 192.168.17.34:455 455 is the port [19:51] yes , so? [19:52] game by niece stops the internet for all at home in lockdown ...... its ironic lol [19:54] Tuhin: vpn is forwarding your all port but when you are not using it, in that case your ISP has forwarded only the familiar ports [19:54] *ports [19:54] but why all of the internet will stop workign for 6-8 hours? [19:55] i have restarted router couple times, replugged etc [19:56] Tuhin: it is the time your ISP manually restarts/resets your service channel [19:57] so, how changing the router will help ? [19:57] i can buy a good router after virus is gone [19:57] it will stop the service hang in the first place [19:58] would not buy basic router this time [19:58] what router u use? [19:58] Tuhin: that's the likelihood [19:58] if that game uses same port, and the ISP cant handle the port, then how new router will help ? [19:59] a gigabit dlink router [19:59] model [19:59] i think i saw it [19:59] it was in my consideration [19:59] its ac1200 ? [19:59] Tuhin: netgears mikrotik are alsogreat [20:00] i have netgear wndr 3300 iirc [20:00] Tuhin: yeah, it has that feature [20:00] and also old trendnet 54mbps [20:01] both worked, but the isp changed some settings/upgraded stuff and old routers stopped working [20:02] https://www.netgear.com/support/product/WNDR3300v1.aspx [20:02] [ WNDR3300v1 | RangeMax Wireless N Router | NETGEAR Support ] - www.netgear.com [20:02] isp guys says these old routers no longer supported.... [20:03] https://www.trendnet.com/support/support-detail.asp?prod=125_TEW-432BRP [20:03] [ 54Mbps 802.11g Wireless Firewall Router - TRENDnet TEW-432BRP ] - www.trendnet.com [20:03] Tuhin: and you can forward that gaming port within your router settings to a regular/familiar port which you are not using [20:04] where do i find which port the game uses ? [20:04] now i m using https://www.tp-link.com/us/home-networking/wifi-router/tl-wr741nd/ [20:04] [ TL-WR741ND | 150Mbps Wireless N Router | TP-Link ] - www.tp-link.com [20:04] like you cannot forward to port 80 because the router's web interface is using it [20:05] Tuhin: in the game setting and their website's FAQ [20:05] settings [20:05] the game logs in first, only later can i open settings [20:06] Tuhin: then the Games's website is your goto place [20:06] ohok [20:06] will see [20:07] so, did u install linux in that Dlink ? [20:07] it have USB port right? [20:07] Tuhin: almost all routers are running GNU/Linux, if not then BSD [20:08] some supports installing custom linux [20:08] openwrt, ddwrt etc [20:09] Tuhin: yes I do have USB port but USB 2.0, which is not very high performance, like I cannot attach a storage and use that as NAS because of USB 2.0 not so fast. [20:09] u have this? https://bikroy.com/bn/ad/dlink-dir-825-dual-band-wireless-router-for-sale-dhaka [20:09] [ Dlink dir-825 Dual Band Wireless Router | খিলগাঁও | Bikroy.com ] - bikroy.com ( https://tinyurl.com/ybyqba23 ) [20:10] i was already eyeing this to buy today morning [20:10] not bad it that do not have any issue [20:10] how is range [20:11] do u think tplink is bad ? [20:11] i found this at nearest shop https://bikroy.com/bn/ad/tp-link-wr845n-300mbps-wireless-n-router-for-sale-dhaka-9 [20:11] [ TP-Link WR845N 300Mbps Wireless N Router | খিলগাঁও | Bikroy.com ] - bikroy.com ( https://tinyurl.com/y95dgumy ) [20:12] https://bikroy.com/bn/ad/tp-link-router-for-sale-dhaka-4160 [20:12] [ TP LINK ROUTER | খিলগাঁও | Bikroy.com ] - bikroy.com [20:12] Tuhin: it has 5Ghz wireless running in dual mode with 2.4 Ghz, it will penetrate the walls better and have long range [20:12] my old netgear WNDR3300 is also dual band [20:13] but i dotn know why new system stopped supporting that [20:13] Tuhin: you can buy that from the online tech shops with same price [20:14] yes [20:14] but i think the router change would not fix the problem [20:15] did u setup vpn or tor ? [20:16] Tuhin: they usually bind the MAC of a device with your ip/user, so if you change the router, you have to inform them and they will renew the MAC but as a local ISP, respond time is sluggish, might take days [20:16] my isp didnt bind the mac address [20:17] like MAC change শুধু চাচায় করতে পারে কিন্তু চাচা দেশের বাড়ি গেছে, হেরা কইব তখন অন্য সমস্যা [20:17] i used to change my router and setup myself [20:19] Tuhin: I am talking about the WAN level MAC binding [20:22] when you connect a router, it reports its MAC to the ISP, if the MAC is allowed, your router can use their service, until then no, the router will not get internet [20:22] usually [20:23] not if they keep their network OPEN for all [20:25] and the only requirement is just to have a physical network connection to their network, but very few ISP does that and that is not good, keeping network OPEN [20:27] my isp didnt bind router mac [20:27] wow [20:27] coz i changed the router before myself and setup myself, and alwasy worked [20:28] its secured by login [20:28] username and pw @ PPPoe [20:28] সেটা সার্ভিস কোয়ালিটির বারোটা বাজিয়ে দেওয়ার কথা, কারণ যে কেই চুরি করে এই নেটওয়ার্ক ব্যবহার করতে পারবে [20:28] i didnt see what u typed above ^^^ [20:29] hm hexchat dont show bengali [20:29] Tuhin: ISP এর ছেলেপেলেরাই চুরি করে ব্যবহার করে সেগুলো [20:30] how tehy can steal with out user account and password? [20:30] only possible if ISP guys gives away free account+PW [20:31] Tuhin: that will cause the service to be bad, ISP guys uses those uses those USERnames and password which are currently not in use, not in the control center but somewhere else [20:31] they disables my account if i give bill only 2-3 days late... [20:32] their service is noramlly fine [20:32] and this router is serving our needs perfectly so far [20:33] only this 1 game my niece is mad about playing makes trouble [20:33] u can install "Smite" and see [20:33] Tuhin: I am not saying that they are doing it but described the scenario [20:33] its a free game in epic games [20:33] Tuhin: I don't use windows [20:34] Tuhin: GNU/Lunix is serving me well [20:34] and I try to serve back in my possible way [20:34] i like Linux too [20:34] but some stuff is windows only [20:35] so dual boot [20:35] Tuhin: yep, like gaming photo editing [20:35] and my nice wants games [20:35] neice [20:36] though GIMP/OPENSHOT/LibreOffice works for me [20:36] use emulator and install Smite ? [20:36] Tuhin: Yes I can do that but will I? [20:37] its hassle i know [20:37] my niece takes my devices and installs stuff lol [20:38] exactly like my nephew [20:39] and also niece, she destroys His dad's CLash_of_Clans resources [20:39] s/His/her [20:39] pavlushka meant to say: and also niece, she destroys her dad's CLash_of_Clans resources [20:40] lol [20:40] his dad plays clash of clans? [20:40] yeah [20:40] great dad lol [20:41] my niece plays Mobile Legends [20:41] she hijacked my spare phone [20:41] Tuhin: check this https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2020/07/07/%23ubuntu-bd.html [20:41] [ /srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2020/07/07/#ubuntu-bd.txt ] - irclogs.ubuntu.com [20:44] back, what did i miss [20:44] nothing [20:45] india banned this chinese game .... [20:45] what other routers u used? [20:47] not that I am a dlink fan but for some reason my all routers are dlink [20:47] we also have a tplink [20:48] so, which works best/high range for u [20:48] dlink [20:48] ac1200 is higher range [20:49] so tplink ac1200 = higher range too [20:49] what the uSB ports supports in ur dlink? [20:50] which model is ur tplink [20:51] supposed to be of 1200Mbps wifi theocratically [20:52] Tuhin_: a cheap one , with only 2.4 Ghz bandwidth [20:52] wifi [20:52] i think more than 54mbps is not really needed [20:52] using as an extender [20:53] so u r using 3 routers now? [20:53] i used to use WImax modem + 150Mbps Netgear WNDR3300 before [20:54] after the Wimax modem died, changed to wired broadband [20:54] also old androids are not working the 5ghz dual band router though they have 2.4ghz running with, those works with that tplink ok. [20:54] the netgear was working as extender [20:54] *working with the [20:55] then the router's dual band is not enabled [20:55] need to set wifi mixed bgn mode + enable dual band [20:56] yes it is, the phone supposed not be able to scan the 5GHz [20:56] the old phones should connect to the 1st band of 2.4ghz [20:56] so dual band is enabled and also I have checked in the settings [20:57] set wifi mixed bgn mode ? [20:57] Tuhin_: for some reason, one of our phone in the house doesn't [20:57] yes i had same issue [20:57] then? [20:57] and thats why i was forced to use WEP which was hacked [20:57] old devices dont support WPA2 [20:59] seems like that device is very old, my one works with wpa2, just having issues with the dual band [20:59] try WPA1 or WEP [20:59] or use a spare router which is set with WEP [21:00] plug that spare WEP router only when u need to se that old device [21:00] it works with the 2.4 ghz tplink's wpa2 [21:00] my WEP was hacked and used by nearby hacker.... [21:00] so its fine [21:01] i have helped fix one of my friends this type issue [21:01] i asked him to buy a 8500tk Asus router which fixed his range and device support problems [21:01] cool [21:01] all his issues was gone [21:02] Tuhin_: including the personal ones? [21:02] i had to go and setup the router for him coz the ISP guy didn't fix old device connection /BGN Mode [21:02] wow [21:02] isp didnt enable dual band [21:03] aha [21:03] also didnt set BGN Mixed mode iirc [21:03] BGN mixed mode is must to let old devices to work [21:03] that asus router have very long range [21:04] he can get signal 2 homes away [21:05] i wanted to buy that same router but didnt coz i already have 3 working routers and can extend if need more range [21:06] so that game uses TCP: 9000-9001 [21:06] & UDP: 9002-9999 [21:06] ports [21:08] Tuhin_: ok, you want to forward it and see? [21:08] yes [21:08] what port u think will be safe/ not blocked ? [21:09] Tuhin_: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_TCP_and_UDP_port_numbers [21:10] [WIKIPEDIA] List of TCP and UDP port numbers | "This is a list of TCP and UDP port numbers used by protocols of the Internet protocol suite for operation of network applications.The Transmission Control Protocol (TCP) and the User Datagram Protocol (UDP) needed only one port for full-duplex, bidirectional traffic. The Stream Control Transmission..." [21:11] Tuhin_: you can try 655 [21:12] hm, no game except 666 = Doom [21:12] that number is linked with devil worshipping i heard [21:12] may be [21:30] Tuhin_: also your network issue should auto fix after power cuts, is that the case? [21:30] there was no powercut [21:30] so cant confirm [21:31] but Kaspersky 200MB free VPN solved it while it was enabled [21:31] Tuhin_: how unfortunate! [21:31] :p [21:31] there was no powercut while i faced this problem last 3 days\ [21:31] poor you [21:32] so, online port checker says ports r closed [21:32] which ports are open? [21:33] port 655, clsoed [21:33] also port80 [21:34] https://portchecker.co/ [21:34] [ Port Checker - Check Open Ports Online ] - portchecker.co [21:34] Tuhin_: 103.144.49.246 is your ip? [21:34] thats ur ISP ip [21:35] that site autodetects ur IP and puts there [21:35] Tuhin_: then why its in your nick? [21:35] oh yes its mine lol [21:35] but that ip is not in the website [21:35] 103.144.49.234 [21:38] i have done these port forwarding stuff over 10 years ago lol [21:38] now it seems i forgot stuff [21:39] saved my settings [21:46] Tuhin_: may be your ISP has blocked icmp requests [21:47] great [21:47] now what do i do [21:49] Tuhin_: I said may be as the portchecker is failing, but port forwarding should work despite [21:49] let me reboot router [21:50] back [21:51] Tuhin: and also port 80 is highly unlikely to be blocked, that also indicates to icmp [21:51] so what port i set as "internal port" [21:51] request turned off [21:51] Tuhin: the game port [21:52] and service port ? [21:52] 655 [21:52] or as you like it [21:53] ID Service Port Internal Port IP Address Protocol Status Modify [21:53] 1 9000-9001 655 192.168.0.107 TCP Enabled Modify Delete [21:53] 2 9002-9999 655 192.168.0.107 UDP Enabled Modify Delete [21:53] [21:53] [21:53] looks like i put on wrong place? [21:54] i followed this https://portforward.com/tp-link/tl-wr841n/ [21:54] [ TP-Link TL-WR841N Router Port Forwarding Steps ] - portforward.com [21:54] my router interface is same as this [21:54] Tuhin: every brand's port forwarding web interface is different, you need to figure that out yourself [21:54] yea [21:57] beside "Service Port" , it says : (XX, Enter a specific port number or leave it blank) [21:57] the port i want to forward cant be blank, so i put 655 there [21:58] blank = all ports [21:58] Tuhin: trial and error will succeed you [21:58] yes [22:00] can set range of ports like "9002-9999" in internal port box [22:00] can NOT [22:05] its late, will see this later [22:05] Bye for now [22:07] night night