[00:33] <Elliot_Alderson> Is there a place in /var/log where I can see why my Ubuntu 20.04 freezes randomly?
[00:33] <Elliot_Alderson> I can't seem to find the reason why the OS freezes up randomly
[00:34] <sarnold> Elliot_Alderson: if you're using gnome try disabling all the extensions
[00:36] <Elliot_Alderson> What extensions?
[00:36] <Elliot_Alderson> I checked Gnome Tweaks and only dock was on
[00:37] <Elliot_Alderson> I have turned that off
[00:37] <sarnold> a lot of gnome users install things from https://extensions.gnome.org/# and they're quite often the cause of stability problems
[00:37] <Kali_Yuga> hello somebody did something bad, uhm he typed 'mv /* /var/www/html' <- don't ever type this, and now there is grub rescue apparently, besides telling him to use a live usb to get all his stuff from the hdd and reinstall there is not much more I could tell him.. any way of restoring or is it gone now?
[00:37] <Elliot_Alderson> I have not installed any new extentions
[00:38] <Elliot_Alderson> Is there a place in /var/log where I might see why the freezing is taking place?
[00:40] <sarnold> Kali_Yuga: probably if you can get a 'mv' executable to work: mv /var/www/html/{bin,boot,dev,etc,home,lib,lib32,lib64,libx32,media,mnt,opt,proc,root,run,sbin,snap,sys,tmp,usr,var}  /  -- might just fix it
[00:41] <sarnold> Elliot_Alderson: maybe; it depends on why it hung, just how badly hung the machine is, etc..
[00:41] <sarnold> Elliot_Alderson: some problems are severe enough the kernel won't write anything to disk for fear of wrecking something
[00:42] <Elliot_Alderson> Alt+PrtSc REISUB doesn't even work
[00:42] <sarnold> Elliot_Alderson: other times, the system is wedged badly enough it doesn't have any choice in writing or not :) heh
[00:42] <Kali_Yuga> @sarnold okay well he's stuck in grub rescue, so..
[00:43] <sarnold> Kali_Yuga: ugh. that's not good. it's time to grab a live usb
[00:43] <Kali_Yuga> sarnold: not much you can do in that
[00:43] <Kali_Yuga> sarnold: yes that's what I said live usb, back everything up and reinstall
[00:43] <sarnold> yeah; perhaps *someone* can get from a grub shell to sorting it out, but certainly not me :)
[00:43] <sarnold> Kali_Yuga: there's probably something less drastic than reinstall
[00:44] <Kali_Yuga> sarnold: probably but I'm not sure what
[00:44] <sarnold> Kali_Yuga: ^^^ that mv command I gave a few lines ago would work from a live image boot, with slight changes
[00:45] <Elliot_Alderson> sarnold: Is there a way to put the OS in a hyper verbose mode?
[00:46] <sarnold> Elliot_Alderson: most folks turn towards "observability" tools like pcp or similar to log memory use, swap use, etc etc
[00:47] <sarnold> Elliot_Alderson: sometimes you can get more information from the system by using a BMC (idrac, ilo, ipmi) to fake up a serial console, or use a real serial console, to get messages from the kernel after certain classes of problems
[00:49] <Elliot_Alderson> sarnold: I look into "observability" tools. Thank you!
[00:49] <sarnold> Elliot_Alderson: good luck :) hopefully you can figure out what's causing your machine to wedge up
[00:52] <Kali_Yuga> sarnold: thank you anyway
[00:55] <flying_sausages> Anyone know of some good lightweight Android emulators?
[00:55] <flying_sausages> I need to install an App, and then look at the files it creates. I'm on an Intel-based laptop
[01:38] <dlam> mmm what can i type to see my 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' worked?   'lsb_release -a' still says my previous version  (14.04)
[01:39] <Bashing-om> dlam: "dist-upgrade" is not what you perceive it to be.
[01:40] <Bashing-om> !upgrade | dlam
[01:40] <dlam> okie doke thanks
[01:43] <Bashing-om> dlam: :D - If you continue with issues - we are here to help :D
[02:21] <ouyes> Are there any elementary tutorial about html, css, js, ajax, dom
[02:31] <circuitbone> ouyes:  create a codepen account and prepare yourself a series of examples so you can reference them. Additionally #css ##frontend and ##ebdev for future q's
[02:31] <circuitbone> oops
[02:32] <circuitbone> ##webdev
[02:32] <ouyes> circuitbone, thanks!
[02:33] <circuitbone> no sweat mate.
[02:36] <circuitbone> ouyes: steal ideas from my list if you want. https://codepen.io/circuitbone/pens/public?grid_type=list&sort_col=created_at&sort_order=asc
[02:47] <Conjecture> Anyone have a good suggestion for small business accounting software?
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> !info gnucash | Conjecture
[02:49] <Conjecture> Thanks
[02:49] <Conjecture> I will look into it
[04:34] <tripleb> help. I am wanting to try manjaro and so I download etcher balenaEtcher-1.5.100-x64.AppImage location / but it isnt tere. Archive manage shows it but files does not. I am supposed to make it executable. There are not enough detailed steps. I go a little ways then get stopped.
[04:39] <mihael> I'm using Ubuntu 18.04 and I'm trying to set my hostname via the hostnamectl set-hostname but it gets reverted each time I reboot my computer. How do I permanently set my hostname?
[04:40] <tripleb> nevermind, I hvae got it. I didnt realize ... extract.
[04:48] <mihael> So I have to disable this cloud init thing, what a waste of time
[04:55] <nb-ben> hi, for some reason /dev/ttyS0 has mode 0620 (group tty). I wrote udev rules to correct that to 0660. The rule works as expected when I run `sudo udevadm trigger`, but not when booting.
[04:57] <nb-ben> I'm thinking maybe I am not writing my rules in such a way that would override whatever is in 50-udev-default.rules or maybe there's something besides udev that changes these permissions on boot?
[04:59] <nb-ben> this describes my problem: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/38163037/ubuntu-default-port-permissions
[05:03] <nb-ben> ah, looks like I have getty running on it
[05:59] <Rapeseed> Eat my diarrhea
[05:59] <Rapeseed> Just...
[05:59] <Rapeseed> Just ate a burger at the sleazy joint
[05:59] <Rapeseed> Now I gotta take a shit, get to the point
[05:59] <Rapeseed> Sittin' on the toilet, my ass is a blast
[05:59] <Rapeseed> Runnin' smelly diarrhea outta my ass
[06:03] <mihael> i'm trying out this blog: https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/oops-debugging-kernel-panics-0 but when installing `uname -r`-dbg, I get https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/oops-debugging-kernel-panics-
[06:03] <mihael> I get an error that the "4.4.0-184-generic-dbg" package does not exist
[06:03] <sarnold> your second link is to the same blog post
[06:03] <sarnold> well, a broken link to the same blog post :)
[06:04] <sarnold> you're probably missing a linux- in front of that `uname -r`
[06:41] <konrados> Hey. To truncate a file, we can do `: > filepath`, ok, but how to truncate multiple files in one command? `: > *log*` didn't work and I do understand why, but then - how? Do we need some sort of a loop?
[06:42] <konrados> ok, found it, the `truncate` command :)
[07:00] <mihael> .
[07:00] <mihael> .
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> mihael: can we help you?
[07:02] <mihael> lotuspsychje: Sorry, didn't noticed I was typing in this terminal.
[07:02] <mihael> linux-4.4.0-184-genneric-dbg package not found. Is there any other package for this one?
[07:03] <mihael> sudo apt install `uname -r`-dbg
[08:24] <AquaL1te> can ubuntu also run on a raspberry pi?
[08:27] <kari> Don't see why not
[08:27] <kari> Ubuntus website has a guide on it
[08:52] <jim90> is removing the home folder enough for wiping a computer?
[08:58] <IaMnEwHeRe> jim90, depends on what you understand by whipe(your measurement of security), it also depends on whether you had anything running working outide of /home/xxxx, the tmp-folder comes to miind
[08:58] <IaMnEwHeRe> *mind
[09:00] <IaMnEwHeRe> just take a live-cd boot into it, umount the drive and whack it using dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda ... and then dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda ... and you are save and sound for 99.x% of the cases, mind you the type of harddrive is also to be considered
[09:00] <jim90> basic removal is enough (I'm not a spy). As for the second point, I'm not sure. It's a Ubuntu. From what I gather browser data lives inside home also. I'm leaving my job and I'd like to wipe my station before I go, but I only have ssh access
[09:00] <IaMnEwHeRe> e.g. a sdd-drive has diverent writing-patterns than a hdd drive
[09:01] <IaMnEwHeRe> ? you only have ssh-access?
[09:01] <IaMnEwHeRe> are we talking work-station or server?
[09:01] <ouyes> Conjecture, I have a suggestion for small business accounting software
[09:01] <ouyes> Conjecture, Odoo
[09:01] <ouyes> !info Odoo
[09:02] <jim90> Yeah. So I was planning on doing rm -rf ~, and then rm -rf / . It's a work computer (the one you sit at, with a screen), not a server (but it was used as a server in some cases)
[09:04] <IaMnEwHeRe> then you should have more than just ssh-access
[09:04] <IaMnEwHeRe> besides, your employer might not like it.
[09:04] <ouyes> jim90, God help the child
[09:04] <IaMnEwHeRe> _ALL_ data on the work-machine is property of the company, so they might get you for sabotage
[09:05] <IaMnEwHeRe> also consider that rm -fr ~ while in an ssh-session is a ballsy move, dunno how ssh will react to that
[09:06] <IaMnEwHeRe> same goes for a regular session with gdm, kdm or so working
[09:08] <jim90> IaMnEwHeRe I mean, it has personal data on it. The system is due for an update (it's 18.10 i think) anyway. They'll have to reinstall it in any case. I'd just feel more comfortable cleaning up after myself.
[09:09] <IaMnEwHeRe> well that is the reason WHY you should not mix workstuff with personal stuff
[09:10] <IaMnEwHeRe> but just going in and deleting your personal files should be sufficieant
[09:10] <IaMnEwHeRe> there is .local .config .<application> in your $HOME-folder
[09:10] <IaMnEwHeRe> I would not touch .ssh and the likes
[09:10] <IaMnEwHeRe> be as less invasive as possible
[09:11] <IaMnEwHeRe> and in that case /tmp etc should not matter
[09:12] <IaMnEwHeRe> and the applications, other than the browser, installed by your company to work on should not contain personal data anyways
[09:13] <IaMnEwHeRe> also consider _NOT_ deleting $HOME/Documents as it might hold more than just your documents, and that, since the PC is not in your possession anymore, others might have looked at it, if not bad process on the IT-departments side, and they might recycle the users, so other peoples stuff, and workstuff might now be in the same folder as yours
[09:13] <IaMnEwHeRe> go to the IT-Department, state your concerns, I am sure they see Eye-to-Eye and help you delete those files
[09:31] <FatalFUUU> If the company has any sense the would backup that area if its got work in it or advise otherwise
[09:33] <jim90> I was the only one who touched this machine from the moment the os was installed. Nobody else has ever had access. All the work I ever did was pushed to repository. I was more concerned with rm -rf going onto mounted filesystems, which might be remote. I haven't mounted anything, I think, but I heard ubuntu mounts SFTP netowork shares automatically
[09:47] <FatalFUUU> setup new user, switch to that, delete old home profile, done
[09:47] <FatalFUUU> there you also leave a new user on the system so it just looks like an empty profile, not that someone has rm -rf'd it
[09:47] <FatalFUUU> ask your IT if they are going to wipe it? we'd start from scratch always
[09:55] <jim90> that's what they did when I came in. I really like your idea ) I a bit worried about data on root. /var and /usr, /snap and /lib. But it seems those are just packages without config or cache.
[11:17] <StephenLynx> hey, the gmediarender package is kind of badly written, so it doesn't clean up stuff properly. so now I have a virtual upnp device enabled on boot despite having nothing about it's pulseaudio module enabled on default.pa
[11:17] <StephenLynx> i also found out and removed the gmediarender service that was left in the system after uninstall
[11:18] <StephenLynx> any idea where it might be enabled?
[11:23] <StephenLynx> how do I read the install script for a package?
[11:25] <TJ-> StephenLynx: the package contains pre/post install/remove scripts
[11:26] <StephenLynx> yup, already reading those.
[11:26] <StephenLynx> they only seem to call update-rc.d
[11:26] <TJ-> StephenLynx: they're run by dpkg and stored in /var/lib/dpkg/*.{pre,post}*
[11:27] <StephenLynx> ive already e-mailed the mailing list thats on the package page
[11:27] <StephenLynx> so i guess ill have to keep manually disabling it
[11:27] <StephenLynx> until someone figures this one out
[11:28] <TJ-> StephenLynx: what specifically is not being cleaned up? uninstalling a package will NEVER affect anything added to user sessions/$HOME and unless you PURGE a package any config files (in /etc/ or /var/) will be left
[11:28] <StephenLynx> the init script on init.d
[11:28] <StephenLynx> I removed that package by just using apt-get remove
[11:28] <StephenLynx> but the init script was left.
[11:29] <StephenLynx> the executable it referred was not though.
[11:29] <TJ-> StephenLynx: if that is the case, and the script is listed as a normal file in the package, then there's something interfering
[11:29] <TJ-> StephenLynx: which Ubuntu release are you using?
[11:29] <StephenLynx> 18
[11:29] <StephenLynx> the /etc/init.d/gmediarender file to be more specific.
[11:30] <StephenLynx> the config file was not removed either.
[11:30] <TJ-> StephenLynx: right; I see it with apt-file. That should always be removed as it is a normail file
[11:30] <StephenLynx>  /etc/default/gmediarender
[11:30] <TJ-> StephenLynx: I'd expect the config file to remain unless you PURRGE
[11:30] <StephenLynx> and I can see a bunch of gmediarender files in the cron directory.
[11:31] <StephenLynx> https://pastebin.com/U4MDQEdH
[11:32] <TJ-> StephenLynx: looks like "apt purge" is required from my experiment here
[11:32] <StephenLynx> these all seem to be copies of the init script
[11:32] <StephenLynx> but you can see the files are not being removed as they should?
[11:46] <TJ-> StephenLynx: if you look at gmediarender.postrm it clearly shows that only PURGE will remove it
[11:46] <TJ-> StephenLynx: "all those files" aren't files as such, they're symbolic links to /etc/init.d/gmediarender
[11:54] <StephenLynx> back
[11:55] <StephenLynx> ah, yeah. I didn't remove them.
[11:55] <StephenLynx> now im looking at a second possibility, it is NOT gmediarender responsible for the device. but the other thing about upnp that I installed that did the other way around: it broadcast upnp instead of rendering.
[12:01] <StephenLynx> removed pulseaudio-dlna, device is still there on boot. time to investigate that one i guess
[12:03] <StephenLynx> no files meaningful files left behind it seems. to the install scripts.
[12:04] <coconut> Hi. I have a situation since yesterday where my wifi is sometimes not detected. Anything i can check? I have ubuntu mate 20.04 with standard repo and anything updated.
[12:05] <StephenLynx> nothing there but pycompile to generate bytecode from python.
[12:05] <StephenLynx> :|
[12:05] <StephenLynx> so, how do I find where this device is coming from?
[12:25] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:25] <semitones> top 'o the mornin to you too
[12:26] <BluesKaj> :-)
[12:42] <kaddi>  I'm running kubuntu 19.10. What would be the best way to encrypt a user-account on a dedicated drive? I'm reading that ecrypt is buggy and 'unmaintained' but there doesn't really seem to be a clear alternative
[12:42] <kaddi> I would be creating the user-account from scratch. The drive will be removable (but obviously mounted prior to logging in to the user-account
[12:51] <leftyfb> kaddi: Ubuntu 19.10 will be EOL in 10 days. Time to upgrade
[12:52] <nb-ben> I have an arm64 Ubuntu Server 20.04 installation on an RPi 3B+. From what I gather, my options to prevent u-boot from using the uart pins are limited to deploying my own flavor of u-boot built with CONFIG_BOOTDELAY=-2. So my questions are: 1. Is this really the only option?; 2. If so, then seeing that u-boot-rpi package is installed, am I to uninstall it? or should I simply replace the u-boot binaries
[12:52] <nb-ben> under /boot/firmware?
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> nb-ben: you can try #ubuntu-server if you like for likeminded volunteers
[12:56] <odp> hey
[12:57] <nb-ben> I'll ask there as well, thank you
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> welcome odp
[12:59] <nb-ben> I would think that this is unrelated to ubuntu-server though, as the u-boot package is shared
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> nb-ben: seems like you are being helped, so it worked :p
[13:05] <nb-ben> yes it has worked, I don't complain :)
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> magic #ubuntu : )
[13:45] <kaddi> @leftyfb thanks. I'll try do that this week-end. Any idea what the best way to encrypt a user account on a dedicated drive is in 20:04?
[13:45] <leftyfb> kaddi: I used LUKS. But that's for the whole drive. I have little experience with the per-user encryption
[13:48] <kaddi> @leftyfb if I use LUKS that would mean I'd need to decrypt the drive when mounting it, before being able to access it for the user-account, right?
[13:48] <leftyfb> kaddi: correct
[13:49] <leftyfb> kaddi: again, this is something I used for my entire OS. IT asks for a passphrase on boot
[14:22] <coconut> Any reason for why my wifi sometimes does not come up when i boot ubuntu mate 20.04?
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> coconut: whats the wifi chipset on wich kernel version please?
[14:31] <coconut> lotuspsychje, Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 and 5.4.0-40-generic
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> coconut: did you have this issue on other kernel versions or ubuntu flavours too, or is this a first time clean install mate?
[14:34] <coconut> lotuspsychje, only used ubuntu mate 20.04 on this pc, and have it rarely since a week or so ## kernels versions i do not know, but it did not happen when i first installed ubuntu last 06-06-2020.
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> coconut: ok tnx, lets have a look at your dmesg pastebin please?
[14:35] <coconut> and i apt update every day too
[14:36] <coconut> just tell me the command lotuspsychje
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> !dmesg
[14:38] <coconut> lotuspsychje, https://termbin.com/426n
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> coconut: you have secureboot enabled, that can influence your hardware behaviour, did you try booting secureboot disabled yet?
[14:39] <coconut> lotuspsychje, nope i did not
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> coconut: try please, see if your wifi works better that way
[14:40] <coconut> ok, will do that :)
[14:40] <coconut> thnx lotuspsychje
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> coconut: wb
[14:46] <coconut> hehe, still online because i needed the last drop i out my battery
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> coconut: could you share your new dmesg to see if the iwlwifi error is still there
[14:47] <coconut> lotuspsychje, back i am moment
[14:53] <coconut> i am back
[14:53] <coconut> https://termbin.com/xdzu
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> reading
[14:53] <coconut> this time my wifi did not come up, using cat cable now
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> coconut: yeah, seems like its still getting firmware error: iwlwifi 0000:52:00.0: Direct firmware load for iwlwifi-cc-a0-50.ucode failed with error -2
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> coconut: do you have other kernels in your list still to do a boot test?
[14:56] <coconut> lotuspsychje, not looked after that, how do i check?
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> coconut: dpkg --list | grep linux-image
[14:58] <coconut> a few, yes https://termbin.com/9gqh
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> coconut: ok, reboot, hold shift at boot to enter grub, boot a previous kernel of your choice as a test
[14:59] <coconut> ok, any version recommended or should i just choose one?
[14:59] <blaster> Hi I am trying to start courier-imap-ssl on ubuntu, but it says FAIL each time I try.  I am unable to find any logs about the cause. Can anyone help?
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> coconut: well do you recall wich time it was working well?
[15:01] <coconut> lotuspsychje, think i had it only once a week ago, while more once a day since yesterday...
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> coconut: ok, lets try the previous recent kernel then
[15:02] <coconut> will do... which shift key for grub is for this?
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> coconut: left shift should do
[15:03] <coconut> ok will try, brb
[15:06] <coconut> lotuspsychje, left shift did not let me in on grub
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> coconut: ok, maybe ESC then
[15:09] <lotuspsychje> coconut: worked?
[15:10] <coconut> nope no workey on 5.4.0-39-generic
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> coconut: ok, meanwhile i found this bug: bug #1869587
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> coconut: this could be perhaps a bug that affects all sub numbers of 5.4
[15:12] <coconut> lotuspsychje, 5.4 is the version used since 20.04 release right?
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> coconut: correct
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> coconut: would this make sense on your case?
[15:15] <coconut> lotuspsychje, i do not know whether i had slow wifi performance to be honest
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> coconut: what we could do, is try a 20.10 iso and see if wifi works there as a test
[15:17] <coconut> lotuspsychje, i can do if you're still willing to help :)
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> coconut: oh nvm that, its still kernel 5.4 aswell
[15:18] <coconut> lotuspsychje, can i add older versions to grub boot menu easily?
[15:19] <lotuspsychje> coconut: older kernels get cleaned up, but you can test things out with newer kernels the !mainline way if you like
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> coconut: just keep in mind to make backups when you test things
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> !info backport-iwlwifi-dkms
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> coconut: can you apt policy backport-iwlwifi-dkms please
[15:23] <coconut> https://termbin.com/1ho8
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> coconut: ok, sudo apt install backport-iwlwifi-dkms, then reboot and boot back into kernel -40 please
[15:25] <coconut> lotuspsychje, i can just install that while running 5.4.0-39-generic ?
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> should work
[15:25] <coconut> ok, will do...
[15:27] <coconut> reboot. brb
[15:29] <netwater> hi @ all. I try to execute "unminimize" on ubuntu docker container and get an error with "dpkg-query: error: --search needs at least one file name pattern argument". Complete log is here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/V7ZYM2hrvv/ Anyone an idea?
[15:31] <coconut> lotuspsychje, you need new dmesg? (see no wifi detection for nm still after reboot on 5.4.0-40-generic)
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> coconut: yes please
[15:32] <coconut> lotuspsychje, https://termbin.com/n246
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> coconut: weird, the firmware errors are gone now, but it still gives this error now: iwlwifi: probe of 0000:52:00.0 failed with error -110
[15:35] <Muimi> is memtest supposed to go to a screen that looks like an ant war?
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> coconut: so, not sure where to go from here on that, maybe other volunteers might have ideas
[15:35] <Muimi> green, white, black, blue ants?
[15:36] <Muimi> not sure what's wrong with this pc.  maybe bad ram.
[15:38] <coconut> lotuspsychje, still want to say thanks to you.
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> maybe jeremy31 if he's awake ^
[15:41] <coconut> :)
[16:01] <thiras> hello. is postfix chrooted in 18.04?
[16:05] <tarrie> what do you guys generally do with AppImages? do you place them in /usr/local and create a desktop entry?
[16:07] <tarrie> "However, the official recommendation by the AppImage developers is to create an extra directory, ${HOME}/Applications/ (or ${HOME}/. local/bin/ or ${HOME}/bin/ ) and store all AppImages there." for those curious
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> coconut: maybe you should file a bug afterall, i dont seem to find much on your intel chipset + kernel 5.4 -40 yet
[16:12] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: coconut  that -110 is a big clue
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: what do you suspect?
[16:15] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: coconut  let me look a little closer
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> sure thing
[16:15] <Guifle> hello, does ubuntu currently retain lsb package?
[16:15] <coconut> :)  i have a lot of time, so don't hurry
[16:16] <rexwin_> when trying to install ssmtp i get E: Package 'ssmtp' has no installation candidate
[16:16] <oerheks> !info lsb_core
[16:16] <oerheks> oh
[16:17] <Guifle> so the same problem as debian
[16:17] <oerheks> !info lsb
[16:17] <ioria> !info lsb-core
[16:18] <oerheks> ah, typo
[16:18] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: coconut  the error -110 is -ETIMEDOUT  - " #define ETIMEDOUT       110     /* Connection timed out */ "
[16:19] <Conjecture> ouyes, Thanks
[16:19] <stompykins> oi #ubuntu o/
[16:19] <rexwin_> E: Unable to locate package msmtp
[16:19] <coconut> TJ-, ok ok, anything i should do?
[16:19] <rexwin_> what is the best email client like ssmtp?
[16:20] <leftyfb> rexwin_: best is relative. ssmtp is also still available. As is msmtp
[16:20] <leftyfb> rexwin_: msmtp is part of the universe repo
[16:20] <leftyfb> !universe | rexwin_
[16:21] <leftyfb> rexwin_: also, to be clean ssmtp isn't a client
[16:22] <coconut> TJ-, it's a fairly new laptop(1 month) and it had no wifi issues the first three weeks. I hope it is not a hardware failure.
[16:24] <coconut> TJ-, i installed ubuntu mate 20.04 on it since 06-06-2020 and updated it almost daily
[16:24] <omnisip> hey guys -- I have an X11 issue or such where I can no longer easily focus between windows with the mouse
[16:24] <omnisip> keyboard works fine
[16:24] <omnisip> (mostly)
[16:25] <omnisip> but the mouse scroll wheel will randomly start acting like alt tab
[16:25] <omnisip> and then I can't click in or on any window
[16:25] <omnisip> only thing that I can do to resolve it is to restart X
[16:25] <coconut> i did not updated uefi or other firmwares though
[16:25] <TJ-> coconut: it looks like a system issue from what I can see there's a 0.5 second timeout waiting for the device to respond to the enable action
[16:26] <TJ-> coconut: Has lotuspsychje  suggested the acpi_osi workaround ?
[16:26] <coconut> TJ-, no
[16:26] <TJ-> coconut: here's the doc I wrote for it:  https://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[16:27] <TJ-> coconut: no guarantees but it 'feels' like it could be due to ACPI not configuring the hardware correctly
[16:30] <coconut> TJ-, need to eat now. Will read that this evening, thnx!
[16:31] <TJ-> coconut: let us know if it solves it
[16:31] <coconut> :)
[17:08] <Orcs53_> Hi guys, running Ubuntu 20.04 on a RPi 3B+, with cwm, xdm, and X11. I've reached some issues trying to use this RPi with an old 720p TV. When I boot the computer I get a "Mode not supported" prompt on the TV. I have had this issue using Raspberry Pi OS, but, to solve this, I just set the resolution to 1280x720 on another display, then once the RPi
[17:08] <Orcs53_> has started it displays correctly. The issue using Ubuntu 20.04, is there is no graphical display tool.
[17:11] <Orcs53_> I am attempting to set the resolution to something the TV supports in the script "/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup" which is run before the login widget. See here https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NWmHg9r2D5/
[17:13] <TJ-> Orcs53_: how is the TV connected? Is it providing EDID correctly (see Xorg.0.log) ?
[17:14] <Orcs53_> @TJ It is connected via HDMI. No, the TV does not seem to provide EDID. I checked this with the "tvservice" command on Raspberry Pi OS just now.
[17:16] <Orcs53_> This is the last entry to /var/log/xdm.log, which shows output from the script which configures the resolution. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9h6sWb2DXW/
[17:17] <Orcs53_> Any ideas would be appreciated very much!
[17:17] <minall> Hello Ubuntu community!, I'm trying to install pgadmin4. I added a repository for this, when installing 'pgadmin4 pgadmin4-apache2' through apt. It installs a dependency it needs named 'pgadmin4-web', which fails to install due to trying to overwrite a previous file... deleting this file doesn't help much... How can I debug this?
[17:20] <TJ-> minall: sounds like you've two packages both trying to install the same file? You could use dpkg-divert to correctly divert (and move) the original file so dpkg/apt know about it
[17:21] <minall> I uninstalled pgadmin-desktop, another package that was making all the issues, thanks for the help, it is now solved!
[17:33] <pcatinean> Hi guys, I installed acrobat reader (acrordrc) from snap store which installed wine and the lot. I don't know where the location of My documents in Wine is on my local or why I cannot save files in my /home/ directory on ubuntu
[17:33] <pcatinean> Anyone got any advice
[17:34] <quadrathoch2> pcatinean make sure that the permissions are set correct (so you can read your home folder)
[17:35] <pcatinean> quadrathoch2, I did not change anything, left everything by default
[17:35] <pcatinean> Just now discovered that the files are in /home/pcatinean/snap/acrordrdc/common
[17:35] <pcatinean> so at least that
[17:35] <pcatinean> I also had to manually download windows 7 fonts and place them in /usr/share/fonts/smth to work which I find strange
[17:35] <pcatinean> Shouldn't wine include them as well?
[17:36] <quadrathoch2> pcatinean no they can't (afaik) because of the license
[18:20] <lotuspsychje> coconut: another thing you could try is install linux-oem-osp1 i recall that fixed my AC intel wifi once
[18:24] <bobski> Hello, I'm on a laptop using Xubuntu 20.04 and there is some trouble with the screen brightness. Using this command: sudo su -c 'echo 12 > /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness' I can input the brightness from 0 (darkest) to 15 (brightest). The brightness should be linear from 0 to 15 but instead it is something like this: 10, 7, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15. So I can not put lowest brightness. Help anyone?
[18:29] <bobski> Anyone?
[18:30] <Apachez> bobski: latest bios? latest drivers?
[18:34] <bobski> Apachez: yes I think so. anyways, it works with other OS such as Windows 10 and Debian but not with Ubuntu
[18:38] <Orcs53_> Ok, I solved the problem. Setting "hdmi_group=1", "hdmi_mode=4", "disable_overscan=1", and the overscan values for left; right; top and bottom. This sets the resolution, but also introduces display tearing, enabling the DRM VC4 V3D driver "dtoverlay=vc4-fkms-v3d", stops this tearing occuring. And then finally, setting the resolution "xrandr
[18:38] <Orcs53_> --output HDMI-1 --mode 1280x720" in "/etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup", gives the desired result. All working now, thank you for your help.
[19:02] <mfilipe[m]> hey! i have an option here to install a nvidia server driver. do you know what means server driver in this context?
[19:04] <sarnold> mfilipe[m]: probably CUDA
[19:06] <mfilipe[m]> i'm using nvidia 1070, so this is not important for me, right?
[19:06] <sarnold> it depends less upon your card and more what you do with it
[19:06] <mfilipe[m]> i use my ubuntu as a gaming platform
[19:08] <mfilipe[m]> the only driver which is tested here for me is this nvidia server driver
[19:08] <mfilipe[m]> should i use it?
[19:09] <sarnold> I don't know much about the nvidia drivers, but I'd wager "server" isn't the thing you're after
[19:11] <quadrathoch2> mfilipe[m] there should be a nvidia-driver-440 for you
[19:15] <Ublx> What's the name for the settings in Ubuntu in the terminal? How can I find it in the list of 'top' or 'ps aux'? Thank you!
[19:18] <leftyfb> Ublx: huh?
[19:19] <Ublx> leftyfb: In gnome I can click on the 100% Battery symbol and then on the screwdriver to open the settings/setup. I want to know what program is behind this one - like it's listed under the running tasks.
[19:21] <Ublx> leftyfb: I got it: gnome-control-center .. thanks. ;)
[19:25] <SNGERG> hi
[19:26] <SNGERG> ...
[19:45] <PeGaSuS> o
[19:52] <monaco> Hi can someone help me how to configure xstartup of tightvncserver for default ubuntu gnome shell ?
[20:08] <pikapika> Is it true that the next lts will be wayland?
[20:08] <pikapika> And if wayland causes issues for me is there any practical means to replace it with x11 ?
[20:11] <quadrathoch2> pikapika it's just the default, so there is for now the option to go back to x11 especially for nvidia
[20:11] <pikapika> woah when did that happen
[20:11] <pikapika> I am on 18.04
[20:11] <pikapika> still X thankfully
[20:12] <quadrathoch2> it didn't (at least on LTS releases) but they are trying for a while now
[20:12] <pikapika> this is disturbing news
[20:12] <quadrathoch2> pikapika, I have more issues on x11 than wayland *shrug*
[20:12] <quadrathoch2> pikapika? why? sounds like you don't like wayland
[20:12] <leftyfb> !ubuntu+1 | pikapika
[20:13] <leftyfb> pikapika: please discuss in #ubuntu+1   this is a support channel for released and active versions of Ubuntu
[20:13] <pikapika> idk I find the idea of changing such a large and old part of desktops rather scary
[20:14] <quadrathoch2> pikapika so you never tried wayland, but the first to complain. nice. move along then
[20:15] <pikapika> You may have backup systems lying around but I have only two machines and you can't blame me for wanting an ability to revert to X if something goes wrong
[20:15] <quadrathoch2> last answer as this is OT. I only have 1 system and now?
[20:16] <leftyfb> pikapika: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic to rant or #ubuntu+1 to have a technical discussion
[20:18] <Hackwar> hi folks, I have an ubuntu server for storage. The machine is old and I have 4 disks in a RAID5 in there with btrfs. I most likely did something wrong when setting all this up a long time ago, but anyway. Now I get read errors and dmesg says something about corrupt leaf. We had an issue with a breaker this morning, which most likely is the culprit.
[20:18] <pyraindrop> xfce on ubuntu 20.04 - is focussing on mouse - even though mouse focus is off - anyone else had this?
[20:19] <Hackwar> I tried to do an initial check with btrfs check, but that fails with cannot open device, device or resource busy.
[20:20] <Hackwar> I already forcefully unmounted the partition, but that did not help so far...
[20:20] <Hackwar> can anybody help me?
[20:20] <sarnold> Hackwar: given what I've heard about btrfs's raid5 modes, I suggest just declaring bankruptcy on it, and make a new pool with mirrors, or zfs raidz1, raidz2, etc
[20:20] <Hackwar> I used mdadm to create one big drive and applied btrfs to that.
[20:20] <Hackwar> I will not simply give up
[20:21] <Hackwar> I want to at least run btrfs check on that.
[20:21] <Hackwar> let alone that I have all the images of my children on that server and I wont simply drop those.
[20:21] <sarnold> ah so you're using md to do the raid?
[20:21] <Hackwar> yes
[20:21] <DrKK`> lord have mercy,
[20:22] <DrKK`> you have your kids' pictures,
[20:22] <DrKK`> on a single system,
[20:22] <DrKK`> with btrfs?
[20:22] <DrKK`> and no backups?
[20:22]  * DrKK` makes super big eyeballs
[20:22] <Hackwar> As always, this was my next big investment.
[20:22] <Hackwar> big beefy server with new disks and an offline backup.
[20:22] <sarnold> the good news is, big drives are nice and cheap these days..
[20:24] <Hackwar> but still, I want to run btrfs check on that raid and it refuses to do so. How can I find out why that device is still busy? Should I restart the server, unmount the raid and try again?
[20:24] <leftyfb> Hackwar: you didn't have a backup of the important data?
[20:24] <leftyfb> no backup = data is unimportant
[20:24] <sarnold> Hackwar: I strongly recommend backing up whatever you can *before* a reboot; this has the sort of feeling to it of "the only way to access this data might be in RAM" kind of problem
[20:25] <sarnold> Hackwar: I realize that's a big jump to make with just a few lines on irc..
[20:26] <sarnold> Hackwar: but it'll take a few hours to make a copy of what's important, before rebooting and trying other things, and might save you from losing what's actually important from the thing in case I'm right
[20:26] <sarnold> Hackwar: and if I'm wrong, well, then it'll cost a few hours to make a copy, which you ought to have anyway...
[20:36] <Hackwar> Don't have any reliable disk with enough space to copy everything over. Especially since the important stuff is already affected. No risk no fun, I rebooted and now it is running with the check. Lets see what is coming out of this.
[20:37]  * sarnold crosses fingers
[20:44] <DrKK`> Lord have mercy.
[20:45] <DrKK`> I never understood this.  I have my FreeBSD NAS, a live backup of it on Ubuntu, a live backup of *THAT* on windows, and all my shit on Amazon Glacier, just in case.
[20:45] <DrKK`> total cost: like $5 per month.
[20:45] <DrKK`> The Chinese can nuke the United States from orbit, and if I survive,
[20:46] <DrKK`> I'll have my kids' photos.
[20:46] <DrKK`> probably in multiple places.
[20:49] <Hackwar> DrKK`: Pretty simple: between 2 premature birth, cancer of my wife, slight financial problems and a pandemic and all of that in the last 3.5 years, I simply didn't get to that yet.
[20:51] <DrKK`> ok, boss.  Well, good luck.
[20:52] <Hackwar> thx
[20:59] <semitones> Can I ask for help with grub here? I have grub_timeout = 0, but for some reason I'm getting a timeout of 10 seconds. Is that a bug or am I missing something
[20:59] <jeremy31> semitones: Set it to 1
[21:00] <DrKK`> that is odd though,
[21:00] <DrKK`> 0 should work
[21:00] <DrKK`> should it not?
[21:00] <DrKK`> This suggests it shoudl work: https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/html_node/Simple-configuration.html
[21:00] <semitones> 1 is better than 3 or 10, but I would like zero for sure
[21:01] <DrKK`> ‘GRUB_TIMEOUT’
[21:01] <DrKK`>     Boot the default entry this many seconds after the menu is displayed, unless a key is pressed. The default is ‘5’. Set to ‘0’ to boot immediately without displaying the menu, or to ‘-1’ to wait indefinitely.
[21:01] <DrKK`>     If ‘GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE’ is set to ‘countdown’ or ‘hidden’, the timeout is instead counted before the menu is displayed.
[21:01] <semitones> grub has also never respected grub_timeout_style=hidden, and instead always shown the menu
[21:01] <DrKK`> lol
[21:01] <DrKK`> ^^^
[21:02] <DrKK`> seems like an old, but relevant, post: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2210008
[21:02] <DrKK`> also,
[21:03] <DrKK`> the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file,
[21:03] <DrKK`> also often ends in a statement that says,
[21:03] <DrKK`> if the timeout is 0,
[21:03] <DrKK`> then set the timeout to 10
[21:03] <DrKK`> check for that.
[21:06] <semitones> good deal
[21:08] <semitones> it references grub_hidden_timeout which is supposed to be deprecated now, but should still work
[21:08] <semitones> it also mentions that grub will ignore shift being pressed if grub_timeout=0 which I'm not sure is the case? But is also risky
[21:12] <semitones> hmm the line in grub.cfg says: Fallback hidden-timeout code in case the timeout_style feature is unavailable
[21:12] <semitones> so I guess timeout_style must be unavailable. But I don't know why. It says set_timeout_style=hidden right above it
[21:17] <BlueShark_>  I installed Ubuntu in a VirtualBox VM. Installed guest additions. Device > Shared Folders and set a shared folder with auto-mount enabled. However, even after restarting the VM, the shared folder does not seem to work. Any idea what could be wrong?
[21:20] <semitones> I found the line to edit directly
[21:20] <semitones> in grub.cfg
[21:21] <jeremy31> semitones: it will change back on the next grub or kernel update
[21:21] <semitones> yeah that's ok
[21:21] <semitones> I have to edit 40_custom every kernel update anyway
[21:22] <semitones> because 10_linux doesn't detect the linux-surface kernels
[21:25] <Orcs53_> Can someone help point out resources about how to connect bluetooth devices on Ubuntu 20.04 Server running on a RPi 3B+.
[21:35] <jeremy31> Orcs53_: can you use bluetootctl in terminal?
[21:35] <jeremy31> bluetoothctl
[21:39] <semitones> Well I'm glad I used timeout=1
[21:39] <semitones> grub doesn't give a fig about whether shift is held down or pressed repeatedly, but it does respond to esc
[22:27] <mnathani> Where can I find an older version of the dns-utils package for Ubuntu 20.04? The dig version included in the current version is too new
[22:29] <eigenfire> mnathani: Too new in what sense?
[22:29] <eigenfire> What's the issue?
[22:31] <oerheks> odd request, you need to compile bind9 yourself, i guess
[22:31] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bind9
[22:32] <oerheks> or upgrade your dig skills
[22:32] <mnathani> I wrote a script in PHP a while back that uses dig
[22:33] <mnathani> most of it works with the new dig, but not the nameservers from parent zone
[22:33] <eigenfire> So fix your script.
[22:33] <mnathani> guess the new dig isnt displaying the authority section correctly or changed the syntax
[22:33] <mnathani> lot easier to just change the dig version
[22:33] <eigenfire> Not really.
[22:33] <eigenfire> Fix your script.
[22:34] <eigenfire> One is "fix the script" and the other is unsupported.
[22:34] <eigenfire> Fix the script is DEFINITELY the easier route.
[22:39] <tomreyn> maybe you want +nssearch
[22:59] <mnathani> rewriting the php script in Bash
[23:04] <enoq> hi any wireless adapters that work well with linux?
[23:05] <M_aD> enoq, search the web for linux compatible WiFi adapters.
[23:05] <genii> enoq: Pretty much anything with an Atheros/Qualcomm chipset
[23:05] <enoq> thanks
[23:08] <genii> enoq: If there is a particularly well supported chip, you can also use devwiki to search for a list of products known to be based on that ( or any other chipset you prefer )
[23:11] <genii> So for instance https://deviwiki.com/wiki/Qualcomm_Atheros#tab=Wireless_chipsets shows you how many devices are known to be based on a specific chipset, if you click on where the number of devices are it takes you to an actual list of those. So you can find a product from that which may be locally available or so on
[23:13] <oerheks> kernel org gives a clue too