| pieq | Bonjour ! | 01:19 |
|---|---|---|
| duflu | Hola pieq | 01:45 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:27 |
| duflu | Morning oSoMoN | 06:30 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu | 06:33 |
| marcustomlinson | good morning desktoppers | 07:37 |
| duflu | 'lo marcustomlinson | 07:37 |
| marcustomlinson | hey duflu | 07:38 |
| oSoMoN | morning marcustomlinson | 07:45 |
| marcustomlinson | hey oSoMoN | 07:46 |
| oSoMoN | duflu, regarding that high-precision touchpad scrolling, there's absolutely no rush, if at some point you get a chance to test and confirm, that'd be great, otherwise no worries | 07:46 |
| duflu | oSoMoN, yeah it's a late-night couch thing | 07:46 |
| duflu | oSoMoN, is there a snap or preview anywhere for Chromium on Wayland? | 07:47 |
| duflu | I understand it's taking a few years because they (Igalia?) had to adapt the X11 backend at the same time | 07:48 |
| oSoMoN | you mean not using xwayland, right? | 07:53 |
| oSoMoN | I'm not aware of anyone making a snap for it, but that's a good suggestion | 07:53 |
| duflu | oSoMoN, yeah pure Wayland | 07:54 |
| duflu | AIUI they had to adapt both X11 and Wayland to use Ozone (or something). So that Linux builds always and only support Ozone | 07:54 |
| oSoMoN | I'm adding that to my to-do list, not sure when I'll manage to free up some time for it but it would be interesting for sure | 07:55 |
| duflu | Yeah I really want to see how Chromium performs without Xwayland (Xorg) wedged in the midddle | 07:56 |
| duflu | The improvement for Firefox was significant, if only someone would fix the touchpad logic | 08:01 |
| Laney | moin | 08:07 |
| duflu | Hi Laney | 08:16 |
| marcustomlinson | hey Laney | 08:23 |
| seb128 | goood morning desktopers | 08:27 |
| Laney | moin duflu marcustomlinson seb128 | 08:29 |
| Laney | how's it going? | 08:29 |
| seb128 | tired but fine otherwise, you? | 08:29 |
| marcustomlinson | hey seb128 | 08:31 |
| Laney | not tooooooo bad | 08:32 |
| Laney | wishing winter would be over | 08:32 |
| seb128 | right, it rained quite a lot this morning here, had to get the 'water bubble' for the stroller out | 08:34 |
| Laney | did start prepping some bread dough this morning though | 08:34 |
| Laney | should be able to bake it tomorrow /o\ | 08:34 |
| seb128 | baguette? :) | 08:34 |
| Laney | no but I do want to try making one of those! | 08:35 |
| Laney | a friend did that recently, said you have to get some special cloth to make the baguette shape ? | 08:35 |
| seb128 | Laney, right, nothing fancy though, e.g https://tinyurl.com/y8yt9ml6 | 08:39 |
| Laney | ah yes | 08:39 |
| Laney | I wlil come to seb128 for advice when I start doing it :> | 08:39 |
| seb128 | :-) | 08:40 |
| Laney | jibel: just realised that I didn't get emailed for any recent desktop smoke test failure, can you set that back up please? guess it got lost for groovy | 08:42 |
| seb128 | (bah, connecting to vpn screwing irc) | 08:43 |
| jibel | Laney, I only notified myself when tests were broken to avoid spamming everyone. I'll readd you | 08:43 |
| Laney | fair | 08:44 |
| Laney | I just want to be reminded that it is broken | 08:44 |
| Laney | mainly so I can nag you every 2 weeks or so, admittedly, so perhaps you want to ignore me :D | 08:44 |
| jibel | you nag we whether you receive notifications or not apparently ;) | 08:45 |
| seb128 | no trevinho? | 08:52 |
| seb128 | Laney, I'm unclear, what's the deal with svg nowadays | 08:52 |
| Laney | irccloud had some kind of outage | 08:52 |
| Laney | what deal? | 08:52 |
| seb128 | do app with a svg icon need to depend themself on librsvg-common?. | 08:52 |
| jibel | xnox, mwhudson could you have another look at bug 1885414 . It works on Ubuntu but still failing on flavour. I could be because grub-efi-amd64 is installed on flavours but not on ubuntu | 08:53 |
| ubot5 | bug 1885414 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Groovy) "on flavours ubiquity: bootloader failed on /dev/vda" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1885414 | 08:53 |
| jibel | s/I/It | 08:53 |
| Laney | we should seed that | 08:54 |
| jibel | yeah, it's seeded on kubuntu-live, xubuntu-live, ubuntukylin-live, ubuntu-mate-live, ubuntu-budgie-live but not Ubuntu. I don't know why it's different though | 09:00 |
| seb128 | Laney, sorry, got sidetracked by kid issues again :/ so yeah, formiko's autopkgtest are failing | 09:02 |
| seb128 | gi.repository.GLib.Error: gdk-pixbuf-error-quark: Couldn’t recognize the image file format for file “/usr/share/formiko/icons/formiko.svg” (3) | 09:02 |
| seb128 | because librsvg doesn't get pulled in anymore | 09:02 |
| seb128 | I didn't really understand that transition, we believe that's it wrong for gdk-pixbuf to automatically pull svg support to any app needing svg should depends on the loader itself now? | 09:03 |
| Laney | It used to be pulled in by the adwaita icon theme, which is kind of random | 09:06 |
| Laney | so yes, the current situation is that tests need to depend on that if they need it | 09:06 |
| seb128 | well, it's not only tests I guess? | 09:06 |
| seb128 | at least in this case the test is starting the app with --help | 09:07 |
| seb128 | and that's the app which is failing | 09:08 |
| Laney | ok, let's say: programs which want to work directly with SVGs via gdk-pixbuf | 09:08 |
| Laney | in most cases it's an icon that is loaded by the shell | 09:08 |
| seb128 | right | 09:08 |
| Laney | but sometimes I guess things will do that directly for some reason, those need the loader | 09:09 |
| seb128 | it's a burden on maintainer and easy to get wrong | 09:09 |
| Laney | ok | 09:09 |
| seb128 | I wonder if we could do something better | 09:09 |
| Laney | go argue with bigon, not me | 09:09 |
| seb128 | right, point | 09:09 |
| seb128 | I was not trying to argue btw, just trying to get your opinion on the topic to help making mine | 09:09 |
| Laney | ah ok | 09:10 |
| seb128 | but yeah, probably better discussed on #debian-gnome | 09:10 |
| mwhudson | jibel, Laney: no we should seed shim-signed and not seed grub-efi-amd64 | 09:28 |
| mwhudson | although | 09:30 |
| jibel | mwhudson, on ubuntu and all the flavours and remove grub-efi-amd64 from the flavours? | 09:33 |
| mwhudson | jibel: probably yes but now i'm a bit confused | 09:34 |
| mwhudson | jibel: actually we seem to seed shim-signed ~everywhere now, so the flavours just need to stop seeding grub-efi-amd64 | 09:38 |
| mwhudson | although no flavours actually seed that? | 09:40 |
| mwhudson | does it come via supported-installer-common maybe? | 09:41 |
| mwhudson | too late for me to figure this out i'm afraid | 09:42 |
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| Laney | mwhudson: soz I was replying to Seb, don't know about your problem atm | 09:58 |
| Laney | supported-installer-common is just for main-ness not iso-ness isn't it? | 09:58 |
| Laney | at least studio is seeding grub-efi in ship-live | 10:02 |
| Laney | mind you so is Ubuntu | 10:04 |
| Laney | so, I am confuse too | 10:04 |
| mwhudson | Laney: *-live shouldn't matter here i think? | 10:04 |
| mwhudson | and e.g. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/pending/groovy-desktop-amd64.manifest has grub-efi-amd64 in it | 10:05 |
| mwhudson | is this some kind of grotty ordering thing? | 10:05 |
| mwhudson | grub-efi-amd64-signed depends on grub-efi-amd64 | grub-pc | 10:06 |
| mwhudson | so unless grub-pc is installed first, you get grub-efi-amd64 | 10:06 |
| mwhudson | anyway need to stop thinking about work | 10:06 |
| Laney | ! Promoted grub-efi-amd64-signed from ship-live to live to satisfy shim-signed | 10:13 |
| ubot5 | Laney: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 10:13 |
| Laney | * Chose grub-efi-amd64 to satisfy grub-efi-amd64-signed | 10:13 |
| Laney | * Chose grub-efi-amd64-signed to satisfy shim-signed | 10:13 |
| Laney | ubot5: Not much worry of that happening | 10:13 |
| ubot5 | Laney: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 10:13 |
| Laney | that's from https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/kubuntu/groovy/daily-live-20200708.log | 10:14 |
| Laney | ah | 10:21 |
| Laney | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/487648306/buildlog_ubuntu_groovy_amd64_kubuntu_BUILDING.txt.gz | 10:22 |
| Laney | Removing: grub-pc as upgrade is not an option for grub-efi-amd64:amd64 (2.04-1ubuntu26) | 10:22 |
| Laney | is that what you're talking about? | 10:22 |
| Laney | mwhudson: ok I've gone cross eyed, it's impossible for me to tell what the problem is here, but I guess if we want grub-pc to be chosen then that should be explicitly seeded somewhere | 11:25 |
| Laney | or like fix ubiquity's recommends | 11:29 |
| hellsworth | good morning folks | 15:02 |
| marcustomlinson | hey hellsworth | 15:05 |
| KGB-2 | gnome-control-center signed tags 5187b04 Sebastien Bacher ubuntu/1%3.36.4-1ubuntu1 * gnome-control-center Debian release 1:3.36.4-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/3pj2n | 15:06 |
| KGB-2 | gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 0ffa0d3 Sebastien Bacher * pushed 22 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/iQz97 | 15:07 |
| KGB-2 | gnome-control-center ubuntu/master e501566 Baurzhan Muftakhidinov po/kk.po * Update Kazakh translation * https://deb.li/3VIS1 | 15:07 |
| KGB-2 | gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 689aee3 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) panels/user-accounts/cc-user-panel.c * user-panel: Add reference to selected user and clear on dispose * https://deb.li/DIah | 15:07 |
| KGB-2 | gnome-control-center ubuntu/master c413d4d Marco Trevisan (Treviño) panels/user-accounts/ cc-user-panel.c um-fingerprint-dialog.c um-fingerprint-dialog.h * user-panel: Don't wait for fprintd on initialization * https://deb.li/3RuHc | 15:07 |
| KGB-2 | gnome-control-center ubuntu/master c65f108 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) panels/user-accounts/ cc-user-panel.c um-fingerprint-dialog.c um-fingerprint-dialog.h * fingerprint-dialog: Make the operations cancellable * https://deb.li/xggl | 15:07 |
| KGB-2 | gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 7d133b8 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) panels/user-accounts/ cc-user-panel.c um-fingerprint-dialog.c * user-panel: Pass a cancellable to the fingerprint operations * https://deb.li/3lEII | 15:07 |
| hellsworth | o/ marcustomlinson | 15:12 |
| Trevinho | it took a while to understand why I had no activity in my weechat... IRCCloud went down -_- | 16:59 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, hey, good morning :) I tried to ping you this morning and was surprised to not have the tab completion work on the channel :p | 17:06 |
| Trevinho | seb128, yeah... I looked for pings but weechat looked "active", but only because was properly goiung to my znc... | 17:07 |
| seb128 | heh | 17:07 |
| Trevinho | seb128, saw that you uploaded g-c-c, I sent you a msg in mattermost but not sure you saw. | 17:08 |
| Trevinho | but well, not important, i will add another commit for that | 17:08 |
| seb128 | Trevinho, I saw it and forgot, we can stage in the Vcs and maybe include in the SRU if you prepare it now | 17:09 |
| seb128 | otherwise for the next round | 17:09 |
| seb128 | I wanted the fingerprint thing uploaded today or tomorrow | 17:10 |
| hellsworth | would someone please trigger some autopkgtests for me? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/dcdydsj9B7/ | 17:13 |
| oSoMoN | hellsworth, looks like marcustomlinson already did it, right? | 18:06 |
| hellsworth | he did yes.. | 18:10 |
| hellsworth | sorry, i should have updated here | 18:10 |
| hellsworth | thank you :) | 18:10 |
| mwhudson | Laney: i hadn't found that in the logs, i had gone cross-eyed much earlier | 20:08 |
| mwhudson | Laney: but i think we can definitely express our intentions more clearly in the seeds and the dependencies of various tings | 20:08 |
| mwhudson | (we could hardly express them _less_ clearly) | 20:09 |
| Laney | mwhudson: tbh I'm not sure myself what's right to seed where and when, do you have a good idea about that? | 21:13 |
| mwhudson | Laney: i think we want all grub-pc and shim-signed for all bootable amd64 images | 21:14 |
| mwhudson | Laney: but maybe we should run this past v*rlon | 21:14 |
| Laney | basically, can we ask someone else to fix it? :D | 21:14 |
| mwhudson | who isn't in the channel anyway | 21:14 |
| Laney | thanks for checking in -devel, now I can go to bed in peace | 21:17 |
| Laney | o/ | 21:17 |
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