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[16:15] <lynxis> How do you release kernel versions? Is there a written process about it? I've a regression in 16.04/xenial which was introduced in the upstream stable 4.4.x, but also fixed later in upstream and wonder how long I've to wait to be settled down into linux-image-4.4.
[18:51] <sarnold> lynxis: the dates for the sru cycle are on https://kernel.ubuntu.com/ and you can see the progress per package on https://kernel.ubuntu.com/sru/dashboards/web/kernel-stable-board.html
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[22:34] <mathnewb> hi. i am new to kernel development. i am compiling focal using the master branch here: git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-kernel/ubuntu/+source/linux/+git/focal and i notice that the master branch is at version 5.4.41, while a fresh install of the focal release image is at version 5.4.44. Why the discrepancy?
[22:35] <mathnewb> Or am I reading it wrong? Sorry. I am learning.
[23:14] <cascardo> mathnewb: the master branch is outdated, possibly some tooling or process problem. but don't confuse corresponding upstream stable releases and our ABI versioning
[23:14] <cascardo> so, we release a package that is versioned like 5.4.0-40.44
[23:15] <cascardo> the important bit here is 5.4.0 and -40, ignore the .44 after -40, which we call upload number and increase for every upload, trying to couple with the ABI, which is -40
[23:16] <cascardo> unfortunately, to add some confusion, that kernel has mostly all patches that are included in upstream 5.4.44
[23:16] <cascardo> the version that is included in the ISO would be 5.4.0-26, with upstream patches up to 5.4.30
[23:16] <cascardo> mathnewb: does it make sense?
[23:36] <mathnewb> cascardo: I was just eating some dinner. Thank you for writing back. I will read it now.
[23:41] <mathnewb> Ok. I think it makes sense, yes. In my VM (which I updated to latest after installing) a `uname -r` returns `5.4.0-40-generic`. the master branch is outdated, and building it gives me linux-*-5.4.0-39-generic*, which I believe squares with your explanation (master is slightly out of date).  
[23:43] <mathnewb> and if I am understanding correctly, there is no exact "1-1" correspondence between an upstream ("mainline"?) kernel and an ubuntu release
[23:43] <mathnewb> the upload number just happens to coincide at the moment
[23:44] <mathnewb> (which tricked me into thinking there was a relation there that doesn't exist)
[23:44] <mathnewb> Does that seem correct?
[23:44] <sarnold> it's certainly confused me in the past :)
[23:47] <mathnewb> Haha, I'm glad I am not the only one!