jrwren | interesting. https://www.suse.com/c/news/suse-acquires-rancher/ | 13:44 |
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greg-g | I appreciate that this channel still has a good amount of members even though irccloud is down :) | 14:22 |
jrwren | :) | 14:23 |
cmaloney | Yeah, I'm in the Penguicon channel and they're at half | 14:25 |
greg-g | wikimedia channels are lacking a ton, most staff use irccloud to connect. You can see who the real nerds are today :) | 14:27 |
greg-g | (we have an org account with them, I believe) | 14:27 |
cmaloney | Honestly I'm sure it's because IRC via the phone is kinda brutal | 14:31 |
cmaloney | But I'll bet money that a lot of nanodes on Linode are getting spun up as we speak | 14:31 |
jrwren | ha! | 14:32 |
greg-g | or people are sharing out their znc creds? :) | 14:35 |
jrwren | doesn't anyone download xchat or mirc anymore? | 14:35 |
cmaloney | xchat hasn't been updated since 2010 | 14:36 |
greg-g | I have one person in my teams who uses xchat I think | 14:36 |
cmaloney | it's Hexchat now | 14:36 |
greg-g | ok, whatever it is now :) | 14:36 |
greg-g | but he's only on when he's active/awake. It's kind of annoying, honestly ;) | 14:36 |
cmaloney | I had to find that out today as well because I don't use it. | 14:36 |
cmaloney | greg-g: The manager in you wants Slack. ;) | 14:36 |
cmaloney | "Override Do Not Disturb, my minions!" | 14:37 |
greg-g | cmaloney: there is a internal divide within wikimedia re slack/irc :( | 14:37 |
greg-g | the new CTO almost made a decree to get all of Technology on Slack, but, it only half worked. Now everyone has accounts but still use IRC primarily. Only Tech management is there consistently. | 14:38 |
cmaloney | Slack is an abomination. | 14:38 |
greg-g | we have a community to communicate with, so yeah | 14:38 |
cmaloney | But there is weeslack which mostly works. | 14:38 |
greg-g | for weechat? | 14:38 |
cmaloney | gitter isn't horrible but it's not great | 14:38 |
cmaloney | Yeah | 14:38 |
* greg-g nods | 14:38 | |
cmaloney | I use it for one slack "server" | 14:38 |
greg-g | I just have a slack tab pinned :/ | 14:39 |
cmaloney | Check out weeslack. You might be impressed with it | 14:39 |
jrwren | greg-g: mattermost is best of both worlds IMO. | 14:39 |
cmaloney | I'm not sure I would use it for more than one Slack server | 14:39 |
greg-g | jrwren: have you tried matrix? | 14:39 |
cmaloney | it also requires an "app" on the server | 14:39 |
greg-g | I haven't tried mattermost | 14:39 |
jrwren | i've not used matrix. | 14:40 |
cmaloney | Framasoft uses Mattermost iirc | 14:40 |
cmaloney | it's... OK | 14:40 |
greg-g | Mozilla went with Matrix for staff+community (and Slack for staff-only) so many just use Matrix as their one client. | 14:40 |
jrwren | i only know mattermost has a great slack-like client and easy run server to host yourself, for security reasons. | 14:40 |
cmaloney | kinda clunky | 14:40 |
jrwren | i trust moz, if they did it, i'm sure it is good. | 14:40 |
greg-g | yeah, the guy who ran it is good, too. @mhoye@mastodon.social | 14:41 |
cmaloney | Honestly I think I'd give Matrix a shot over Telegram | 14:44 |
cmaloney | I don't trust Telegram, in part because they don't support Google Voice phone numbers | 14:44 |
cmaloney | and because they just have an air of hinky to them | 14:44 |
greg-g | yeah, we use Telegram as our "here's a fun photo of what I'm doing right now" thing. It's "real" use is when we're in-person and are coordinating dinners/etc. Oh I miss those days. in-person offsites :/ | 14:47 |
jrwren | the experience of telegram is different enough that I don't even categorize it as the same. | 15:12 |
jrwren | not sure why. | 15:12 |
greg-g | same, really | 15:15 |
cmaloney | Is it in the same breath as Signal with Group Chat, or something else? | 15:18 |
jrwren | that is teh quesiton and I don't nkow the answer. | 15:18 |
jrwren | also... i'm a poor typer | 15:19 |
cmaloney | I've only used Signal | 15:19 |
jrwren | apparently everyone should be using signal for messaging instead of SMS, for everything, but I can't seem to get people to adopt it. | 15:20 |
cmaloney | I can't get some folks on this planet to stop using SMS. | 15:20 |
cmaloney | Though the alternatives I offer aren't that great | 15:21 |
cmaloney | Signal is the least-bad of them | 15:21 |
jrwren | signal still requires a phone number, right? that is kind of a bummer. | 15:21 |
cmaloney | I want Jami to work but it's kind of janky | 15:21 |
jrwren | never heard of that one. | 15:21 |
cmaloney | It's a peer-to-peer encrypted messaging platform | 15:21 |
greg-g | heh, signal is for the random kids' friends' parents in my world. Carrie and I use FB messenger :/ | 15:22 |
cmaloney | greg-g: We still use Hangouts | 15:22 |
jrwren | i refuse FB | 15:22 |
cmaloney | https://jami.net/ | 15:22 |
jrwren | > host facebook.com | 15:22 |
jrwren | facebook.com has address 192.168.15.101 | 15:22 |
cmaloney | Mine has a lot of fb stuff routed to localhost | 15:23 |
cmaloney | my username on Jami is craigmaloney | 15:23 |
jrwren | cmaloney: I was routing to localhost, but i changed to my home server with a virtual host which responds with "This site has been blocked by the network administrator." | 15:24 |
jrwren | :) | 15:24 |
cmaloney | Nice | 15:26 |
jrwren | TIL: br encoding is only enabled in https | 19:25 |
jrwren | or maybe I relearned it. I think i once knew and forgot. | 19:25 |
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jrwren | ha! saw a mass irc-cloud rejoin. i see what you mean now | 21:36 |
cmaloney | https://jitsi.decafbad.net/CoffeeHouseCodersRoyalOak | 23:01 |
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