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jrwreninteresting. https://www.suse.com/c/news/suse-acquires-rancher/13:44
greg-gI appreciate that this channel still has a good amount of members even though irccloud is down :)14:22
jrwren:)14:23
cmaloneyYeah, I'm in the Penguicon channel and they're at half14:25
greg-gwikimedia channels are lacking a ton, most staff use irccloud to connect. You can see who the real nerds are today :)14:27
greg-g(we have an org account with them, I believe)14:27
cmaloneyHonestly I'm sure it's because IRC via the phone is kinda brutal14:31
cmaloneyBut I'll bet money that a lot of nanodes on Linode are getting spun up as we speak14:31
jrwrenha!14:32
greg-gor people are sharing out their znc creds? :)14:35
jrwrendoesn't anyone download xchat or mirc anymore?14:35
cmaloneyxchat hasn't been updated since 201014:36
greg-gI have one person in my teams who uses xchat I think14:36
cmaloneyit's Hexchat now14:36
greg-gok, whatever it is now :)14:36
greg-gbut he's only on when he's active/awake. It's kind of annoying, honestly ;)14:36
cmaloneyI had to find that out today as well because I don't use it.14:36
cmaloneygreg-g: The manager in you wants Slack. ;)14:36
cmaloney"Override Do Not Disturb, my minions!"14:37
greg-gcmaloney: there is a internal divide within wikimedia re slack/irc :(14:37
greg-gthe new CTO almost made a decree to get all of Technology on Slack, but, it only half worked. Now everyone has accounts but still use IRC primarily. Only Tech management is there consistently.14:38
cmaloneySlack is an abomination.14:38
greg-gwe have a community to communicate with, so yeah14:38
cmaloneyBut there is weeslack which mostly works.14:38
greg-gfor weechat?14:38
cmaloneygitter isn't horrible but it's not great14:38
cmaloneyYeah14:38
* greg-g nods14:38
cmaloneyI use it for one slack "server"14:38
greg-gI just have a slack tab pinned :/14:39
cmaloneyCheck out weeslack. You might be impressed with it14:39
jrwrengreg-g: mattermost is best of both worlds IMO.14:39
cmaloneyI'm not sure I would use it for more than one Slack server14:39
greg-gjrwren: have you tried matrix?14:39
cmaloneyit also requires an "app" on the server14:39
greg-gI haven't tried mattermost14:39
jrwreni've not used matrix.14:40
cmaloneyFramasoft uses Mattermost iirc14:40
cmaloneyit's... OK14:40
greg-gMozilla went with Matrix for staff+community (and Slack for staff-only) so many just use Matrix as their one client.14:40
jrwreni only know mattermost has a great slack-like client and easy run server to host yourself, for security reasons.14:40
cmaloneykinda clunky14:40
jrwreni trust moz, if they did it, i'm sure it is good.14:40
greg-gyeah, the guy who ran it is good, too. @mhoye@mastodon.social14:41
cmaloneyHonestly I think I'd give Matrix a shot over Telegram14:44
cmaloneyI don't trust Telegram, in part because they don't support Google Voice phone numbers14:44
cmaloneyand because they just have an air of hinky to them14:44
greg-gyeah, we use Telegram as our "here's a fun photo of what I'm doing right now" thing. It's "real" use is when we're in-person and are coordinating dinners/etc. Oh I miss those days. in-person offsites :/14:47
jrwrenthe experience of telegram is different enough that I don't even categorize it as the same.15:12
jrwrennot sure why.15:12
greg-gsame, really15:15
cmaloneyIs it in the same breath as Signal with Group Chat, or something else?15:18
jrwrenthat is teh quesiton and I don't nkow the answer.15:18
jrwrenalso... i'm a poor typer15:19
cmaloneyI've only used Signal15:19
jrwrenapparently everyone should be using signal for messaging instead of SMS, for everything, but I can't seem to get people to adopt it.15:20
cmaloneyI can't get some folks on this planet to stop using SMS.15:20
cmaloneyThough the alternatives I offer aren't that great15:21
cmaloneySignal is the least-bad of them15:21
jrwrensignal still requires a phone number, right? that is kind of a bummer.15:21
cmaloneyI want Jami to work but it's kind of janky15:21
jrwrennever heard of that one.15:21
cmaloneyIt's a peer-to-peer encrypted messaging platform15:21
greg-gheh, signal is for the random kids' friends' parents in my world. Carrie and I use FB messenger :/15:22
cmaloneygreg-g: We still use Hangouts15:22
jrwreni refuse FB15:22
cmaloneyhttps://jami.net/15:22
jrwren> host facebook.com15:22
jrwrenfacebook.com has address 192.168.15.10115:22
cmaloneyMine has a lot of fb stuff routed to localhost15:23
cmaloneymy username on Jami is craigmaloney15:23
jrwrencmaloney: I was routing to localhost, but i changed to my home server with a virtual host which responds with "This site has been blocked by the network administrator."15:24
jrwren:)15:24
cmaloneyNice15:26
jrwrenTIL: br encoding is only enabled in https19:25
jrwrenor maybe I relearned it. I think i once knew and forgot.19:25
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jrwrenha! saw a mass irc-cloud rejoin. i see what you mean now21:36
cmaloneyhttps://jitsi.decafbad.net/CoffeeHouseCodersRoyalOak23:01

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