[13:44] interesting. https://www.suse.com/c/news/suse-acquires-rancher/ [14:22] I appreciate that this channel still has a good amount of members even though irccloud is down :) [14:23] :) [14:25] Yeah, I'm in the Penguicon channel and they're at half [14:27] wikimedia channels are lacking a ton, most staff use irccloud to connect. You can see who the real nerds are today :) [14:27] (we have an org account with them, I believe) [14:31] Honestly I'm sure it's because IRC via the phone is kinda brutal [14:31] But I'll bet money that a lot of nanodes on Linode are getting spun up as we speak [14:32] ha! [14:35] or people are sharing out their znc creds? :) [14:35] doesn't anyone download xchat or mirc anymore? [14:36] xchat hasn't been updated since 2010 [14:36] I have one person in my teams who uses xchat I think [14:36] it's Hexchat now [14:36] ok, whatever it is now :) [14:36] but he's only on when he's active/awake. It's kind of annoying, honestly ;) [14:36] I had to find that out today as well because I don't use it. [14:36] greg-g: The manager in you wants Slack. ;) [14:37] "Override Do Not Disturb, my minions!" [14:37] cmaloney: there is a internal divide within wikimedia re slack/irc :( [14:38] the new CTO almost made a decree to get all of Technology on Slack, but, it only half worked. Now everyone has accounts but still use IRC primarily. Only Tech management is there consistently. [14:38] Slack is an abomination. [14:38] we have a community to communicate with, so yeah [14:38] But there is weeslack which mostly works. [14:38] for weechat? [14:38] gitter isn't horrible but it's not great [14:38] Yeah [14:38] * greg-g nods [14:38] I use it for one slack "server" [14:39] I just have a slack tab pinned :/ [14:39] Check out weeslack. You might be impressed with it [14:39] greg-g: mattermost is best of both worlds IMO. [14:39] I'm not sure I would use it for more than one Slack server [14:39] jrwren: have you tried matrix? [14:39] it also requires an "app" on the server [14:39] I haven't tried mattermost [14:40] i've not used matrix. [14:40] Framasoft uses Mattermost iirc [14:40] it's... OK [14:40] Mozilla went with Matrix for staff+community (and Slack for staff-only) so many just use Matrix as their one client. [14:40] i only know mattermost has a great slack-like client and easy run server to host yourself, for security reasons. [14:40] kinda clunky [14:40] i trust moz, if they did it, i'm sure it is good. [14:41] yeah, the guy who ran it is good, too. @mhoye@mastodon.social [14:44] Honestly I think I'd give Matrix a shot over Telegram [14:44] I don't trust Telegram, in part because they don't support Google Voice phone numbers [14:44] and because they just have an air of hinky to them [14:47] yeah, we use Telegram as our "here's a fun photo of what I'm doing right now" thing. It's "real" use is when we're in-person and are coordinating dinners/etc. Oh I miss those days. in-person offsites :/ [15:12] the experience of telegram is different enough that I don't even categorize it as the same. [15:12] not sure why. [15:15] same, really [15:18] Is it in the same breath as Signal with Group Chat, or something else? [15:18] that is teh quesiton and I don't nkow the answer. [15:19] also... i'm a poor typer [15:19] I've only used Signal [15:20] apparently everyone should be using signal for messaging instead of SMS, for everything, but I can't seem to get people to adopt it. [15:20] I can't get some folks on this planet to stop using SMS. [15:21] Though the alternatives I offer aren't that great [15:21] Signal is the least-bad of them [15:21] signal still requires a phone number, right? that is kind of a bummer. [15:21] I want Jami to work but it's kind of janky [15:21] never heard of that one. [15:21] It's a peer-to-peer encrypted messaging platform [15:22] heh, signal is for the random kids' friends' parents in my world. Carrie and I use FB messenger :/ [15:22] greg-g: We still use Hangouts [15:22] i refuse FB [15:22] https://jami.net/ [15:22] > host facebook.com [15:22] facebook.com has address 192.168.15.101 [15:23] Mine has a lot of fb stuff routed to localhost [15:23] my username on Jami is craigmaloney [15:24] cmaloney: I was routing to localhost, but i changed to my home server with a virtual host which responds with "This site has been blocked by the network administrator." [15:24] :) [15:26] Nice [19:25] TIL: br encoding is only enabled in https [19:25] or maybe I relearned it. I think i once knew and forgot. === wolfger_ is now known as wolfger [21:36] ha! saw a mass irc-cloud rejoin. i see what you mean now [23:01] https://jitsi.decafbad.net/CoffeeHouseCodersRoyalOak