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AmaranthIntel wifi also works really well00:26
AmaranthBroadcom is the main problem for wifi chips, I think. Too bad that's all Apple seems to use but then again Apple laptops tend to be a pain to get working with Linux in general00:28
oerheksindeed, not that expensive to replace a BCM or ATH thingy00:28
AmaranthThey've started soldering them in these days, some devices you can't replace it00:29
oerhekswhen i find an ewaste laptop with one, i tear them out.00:29
AmaranthSome others have a whitelist in the BIOS/UEFI of allowed replacements so you can't put in anything you want, it has to be a model from that list00:30
pikapikaalso asking here just in case it is something ubuntu specific00:39
pikapikawhat could be the reasons for a usb device to simply not be recognized at all, regardless of how many times I plug it in and out, nothing logged even in dmesg...and then once you reboot with it still connected...poof it works like normal?00:40
RingtailedFoxpikapika, i choose you! :P00:51
pikapika:)00:53
* compdoc pokes the monster00:59
Peppihello01:13
Peppiso by default it the firewall on or off? I'm trying to setup a minecraft server on an old laptop and am having connection issues01:14
Peppiis there any way to test out if I can connect to the laptop through the firewall?01:16
quadrathoch2Peppi the firewall is off by default01:17
Peppiquadrathoch2, isn't that a little unsafe? Or are there no services running by default?01:18
Peppiohh weird it's working now01:20
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quadrathoch2Peppi, idk what canonical thought about it01:24
Peppiquadrathoch2, what do you think about it?01:28
oerheks!ufw01:33
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as gufw and ufw-kde also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo01:33
oerheks!info gufw01:33
ubottugufw (source: gui-ufw): graphical user interface for ufw. In component universe, is optional. Version 20.04.1-1 (focal), package size 840 kB, installed size 3455 kB01:33
oerheksno firewall rule = no port open01:34
Rusty_AlmightyDoes anyone know if there is a sub-channel for automated  install or pre-seed questions ?01:36
Rusty_AlmightySearching around a bit more.  The answer to my question is "No".01:51
Rusty_AlmightyHence posting my question here.01:51
sarnoldRusty_Almighty: #ubuntu-server perhaps; if no one's around, you may need to go to ...01:52
sarnold.. discourse.ubuntu.com01:53
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p0wderon ubuntu 20.04 my screen dims everytime i plug in my charger, and i have to turn the brightness back up. is there a setting where i can tell it to not do that?02:33
k_szeOn Ubuntu 18.04, the media function keys can suddenly stop working, both on my laptop's built-in keyboard and on my external USB keyboard.02:33
k_szeAnybody knows how to fix that without a reboot?02:34
p0wdernot sure..02:34
k_szeTo be accurate, only the play/pause, stop, prev track, and next track keys stop working.02:35
k_szemute, vol up, and vol down still work.02:35
k_szeLooks like I'm not the only one to run into this problem: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1220445/multimedia-keys-sometimes-stop-working02:38
p0wderi was just testing my media keys and just found out one is a sleep key lol02:40
p0wderthis laptop doesnt wake from sleep properly- i need to try to get that figured out too02:41
p0wderit wakes from sleep to a blank screen, and never goes back to the login- i have to hard reboot everytime02:41
p0wderHost: HP EliteBook 6930p02:42
sarnoldp0wder: < k_sze> Looks like I'm not the only one to run into this problem: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1220445/multimedia-keys-sometimes-stop-working02:43
k_szeAnd my laptop doesn't want to sleep when running Ubuntu.02:44
p0wdermine seem to be working fine- i use them to get my screen brightness back02:44
k_szeStill haven't figured out how to fix it.02:44
p0wderit dims everytime i plug it in, even tho i have the brightness all the way up in gnome settings02:45
swift110hey all02:49
p0wderit would make sense doing it when you unplug it, not the other way around..02:50
p0wderhey02:50
sarnoldp0wder: how about, plug it in, set the new desired setting, immediately unplug it..02:51
sarnoldp0wder: I wonder if it's smart enough to save on state change and retain that for next time?02:51
p0wderlet me try real quick02:51
k_szefixed my media keys02:52
k_sze`killall gsd-media-keys` did it for me.02:52
p0wdernope.. its got to be a bios setting or something02:52
p0wdernice k!02:52
k_szebut why was that even necessary...02:52
swift110hey all02:53
p0wderbrighness was all the way up, unplugged and it dimmed but brightness still said all the way up, i slid it back and forth and the brightness went back up02:53
p0wdermaybe i should try logging in with gnome on xorg instead of wayland?02:54
p0wderhey swift02:55
sarnoldgood idea02:55
p0wderk. gonna try. brb02:55
p0wdernope.. same thing02:57
sarnold:(02:58
sarnoldare any bios updates available via fwupdmgr?02:58
p0wdernope03:01
p0wderi need to work on some other stuff- will try to revisit this later03:02
p0wderthanks for tryin!03:02
sarnoldgood luck :)03:02
p0wderthanx. ttyl03:02
Peppihello04:33
Peppiis it possible when you install ubuntu that the network card drivers not be working well? And what are the odds I could find the drivers for my card if the default install doesn't find them? The wireless appears to be working well.04:34
gryPeppi: hi05:28
gryPeppi: if wireless appears to be working well, then what is the problem?05:28
gryPeppi: what is not working?05:29
ktosiekHi! How often is the USB hwdb updated? I've ordered a pretty new USB headset, which seems to be listed in systemd's git repo but not on my focal install06:02
ktosiek(I know I can drop in the missing udev rules, but it would be even better to have them automagically appear :-))06:03
cjokehowto change default kernel to boot ? earlier I did find a command that did that for me, rather than edit files.06:15
veeboxi just fresh installed 20.04, removed all snap stuff, and now want to install the gnome-software, but when i do 'apt install' it still wants to install snap06:52
veeboxhow can i install gnome-software (software center) without using snap ?06:53
gurkiif the employer actually cares just doing "rm" is not enough.06:56
gurkish... my scroll failed06:56
gurkiignore that message06:56
lotuspsychjeveebox: ubuntu software is now the snap-store, so just install gnome software from apt07:08
ducasseveebox: install with --no-install-recommends07:10
veeboxafter more searching,, i may have answered my own question.  sudo apt install gnome-software snapd-07:11
veeboxah ducasse that looks like what i wanterd.  i was still trying things while waiting for a possible answer from here.  thanks!07:12
lotuspsychjecjoke: did you play with the mainline kernels? or what did you do exactly?07:13
lotuspsychjektosiek: its reccomended if your hardware doesnt work out of the box on ubuntu, you file a new !bug or affect to an existing one, this way the devs can counter changes to the future for your specific hardware07:14
cjokelotuspsychje: I did play around and wanted lowlatency kernel as defaul, and there was a command where I was lead into a config with checkboxes , where all kernels where listed.07:31
cjokeand I dont remember that command.07:32
lotuspsychjecjoke: wich ubuntu version are you on please, and can you pastebin a: dpkg --list | grep linux-image07:33
oerheksukuu ? unsupported tool07:35
cjokelotuspsychje: linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04 and linux-image-lowlatency lates now is 5.4.0-40 so I have also 5.4.0-39 just in case.07:37
lotuspsychje!info linux-image-generic07:38
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4.0.40.43 (focal), package size 2 kB, installed size 17 kB07:38
lotuspsychjecjoke: -40 is default on 20.04 currently07:39
oerhekslinux-image-generic-hwe-20.04 does exist, but brings no newer kernel than stock kernel IIRC07:39
cjokeyes, but I switched to lowlatency kernel , and that was with that command. no configfiles.07:39
oerhekstoo early :-D07:39
lotuspsychjecjoke: pastebin the command please, so we can see your kernel list07:40
cjokewell, now I see I was not clear enough. so sorry for that, case is, I dont remember that command. Thats what Im asking for.07:45
halvargood day :-) -- I am trying to mirror the contents of ddeb.ubuntu.com, and can't figure out if there's an rsync server for those contents anywhere07:54
halvardoes anyone happen to know ?07:54
XsiSecHi Folks07:59
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zetherooDoes anyone know what could be causing this? https://ibb.co/7kzVCDs08:19
oerhekshard to search when you post a screenshot...08:23
oerhekscan you pastebin it? paste.ubuntu.com08:23
zetherooit's printed on the login of Ubuntu server and I can't select the text there08:26
zetheroowould it also be in a log probably?08:26
zetheroo oerheks: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8n9ZVMvshW/08:30
oerheksjournalctl i think08:30
oerheksoke, you have no HWE enabled, 4.15.0-10908:31
oerhekszetheroo, waht hardware is this?08:32
zetheroooerheks: it's a VM on Proxmox08:37
ne2krunning focal on a fairly old machine with nvidia GT430 graphics. using proprietary driver, v390, which is latest according to nvidia. two displays connected. one 1680x1050 on DVI, works fine. one 2560x1440 on HDMI, will only go up to 1920x1080, although read-edid|parse-edid implies 2560x1440 is a supported mode, and graphics card specs say it is as well09:31
ne2kany clues as to what I might try?09:33
ne2khttps://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2038997 found this old thread from 2012 that appears to be related to this sort of problem, but I would have thought all this sort of manually editing config file would be behind us!09:34
charolastraanyone know when the server upgrade to 20.04 LTS will be expected?09:38
TJ-ne2k: what does "xrandr -q" report ?09:42
ne2kTJ-, that does not include the 2560x1440 mode for that screen09:42
TJ-charolastra: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule09:43
TJ-ne2k: that is strange - it should show what the EDID reports from that output09:43
ne2kis it possible I would need to use DVI for it? might it be that an old card like that can't do higher than 1080 on HDMI?09:43
TJ-ne2k: that's a good thought - yes, it could be09:43
ne2kTJ-, I did read soemthing like that about a particular card on another thread. let me fiddle with cables. I'll be back in a few mins09:44
lovelytingyhey guys i'm having problem installing wine32.09:44
ne2kTJ-, WOOHOO!09:46
ne2kTJ-, I didn't have a DVI to DVI cable before yesterday, I only had HDMI to DVI ones, so I was running the 1680x1050 monitor (which doesn't have HDMI) from the HDMI output to DVI input, and the 2560x1440 monitor on the DVI output to HDMI input. then I got a DVI to DVI cable and swapped it so I was doing DVI to DVI and HDMI to HDMI (as I assumed that would be best)09:48
ne2kTJ-, but obviously not. so now I need to find another HDMI to DVI cable and run the 1680x1050 screen on HDMI to DVI09:49
ne2kTJ-, does annoyingly mean I can't take advantage of HDMI audio on the 2560x1440 screen, but hey09:49
ne2kwoudl rather have full res than that09:49
ViperXL75Has anyone tried setting up/installing an Airplay receiver/server on Ubuntu? Like when someone searches on his/her iphone for an Airplay to stream media, that it sees and connects to ur Ubuntu machine? (Also the same question for Android)09:52
ne2kTJ-, awesome, both monitors full res! thanks for your help09:58
makarahi. I'm trying to map the alt-k key sequence in .vimrc. Not working. Does Ubuntu 20.04/Gnome terminal have some special use for alt?10:36
makarai ran `sed -n l` and it gives "^[k" for alt-k10:37
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yolanHello, how to enable stereo output in ubuntu 20/0410:57
yolanIf I left it on stereo, I only have sound in one side11:02
ne2kresizing a termianl window shows the size in characters. on xenial I was able to install compizconfig-settings-manager and enable a plugin called resize info to enable this for all windows (in pixels). is there somethign equivalent in focal now that unity/compiz is gone and we have gnome shell?11:24
taqHi! I'm using Ubuntu 20.04 and noticed a weird behaviour. When I define the wallpaper image, ok, now is the same image for the lock screen and wallpaper, but on *every* first boot I get a misterious image I don't know where is coming from. Is a beach or something. I already checked my images on home and even removed the wallpaper images from /usr, but the misterious image is still there. Any tips how can I change it? Thanks!11:37
VoolooI added a rule to ufw to block website traffic to an IP on port 80, but it is still accessing my machine11:51
ne2kVooloo, your statement sounds confused. you say you blocked traffic "to" an IP, but then imply your problem is inbound traffic12:01
Vooloofrom an ip12:01
ne2kVooloo, what are you trying to achieve, and what did you do?12:01
Voolooblock traffic to my machine from an IP and I inserted it on rule 112:01
Vooloosudo ufw insert 1 deny from x.x.x.x/16 to any12:02
ne2kVooloo, I'm afraid I don't know anything about ufw, only iptables. you might try #networking, they're good in there12:03
ViperXL75Has anyone tried setting up/installing an Airplay receiver/server on Ubuntu? Like when someone searches on his/her iphone for an Airplay to stream media, that it sees and connects to ur Ubuntu machine? (Also the same question for Android)12:09
IglooHi all! Does anyone know how I can X-forward chromium please? All my attempts are just giving me a blank, white window12:44
DarkTrickIgloo, I'm not sure, but aren't there apps you can't X-forward? (I'm really not sure, though)12:49
IglooAh, "export QT_X11_NO_MITSHM=1" appears to have done the trick13:10
johnsmith92Hello everyone! I am on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and I have a two monitor setup configuration (the main monitor uses DisplayPort and the secondary uses DVI). When in the main monitor I change the input source to something else, and then I choose DisplayPort again, Ubuntu sets the monitor as "off" until I reactivate it from the settings13:13
johnsmith92For example if I change the input source to play a console game, then return to my pc source (displayport) the screen stays black because Ubuntu has "disabled" my monitor, until I enable it again from gnome settings or nvidia x server settings13:14
johnsmith92This is very annoying :c any idea of how can I fix it?13:14
lotuspsychjejohnsmith92: wich nvidia chipset and driver version please?13:14
johnsmith92Driver version is 440.100 and I am not sure about the cipset, I am using Nvidia GTX 108013:15
johnsmith92If that's the meaning of nvidia chipset? I just know how the GPU model13:17
lotuspsychjejohnsmith92: did you try a driver switch yet?13:18
johnsmith92lotuspsychje: like a rollback? I am using the latest driver version I think13:20
lotuspsychjejohnsmith92: no, its not a rollback, its just 440 has several bugs currently, its more to test if it influences your issue13:21
lotuspsychjejohnsmith92: a switch to 435 for example13:21
lotuspsychjejohnsmith92: if its a hybrid optimus card, please also check nvidia-settings for prime13:22
johnsmith92what's a hybrid optimus card? I am running a GTX 1080 (desktop, just in case)13:23
johnsmith92I can try the switch to 43513:23
lotuspsychjejohnsmith92: ok, then its not your case, nevermind the last13:23
johnsmith92do I have to uninstall the current driver first or it will get uninstalled automatically when I install the new one?13:24
lotuspsychjejohnsmith92: from software&sources/tab additional drivers you can do the switch & reboot if you like13:24
johnsmith92lotuspsychje: perfect! applying the 435 driver right now, i will tell you if it still happens in a bit13:27
lotuspsychjejohnsmith92: great, good luck13:27
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johnsmith92lotuspsychje: wow! that did the trick, thanks a lot!13:30
lotuspsychjejohnsmith92: welcome13:30
johnsmith92I thought 440.100 was the most stable LTS one13:31
lotuspsychjejohnsmith92: well ubuntu-drivers is indeed suppose to pick the best driver for your cards chipset, but as 20.04 has also still some bugs to solve till 20.04.1 things are still going wrong for the 44013:32
johnsmith92Oh! that makes a lot of sense, thanks!13:33
johnsmith92I have another question besides that one as well, I have a program that has Ctrl + Alt + T assigned to an option but I use the same shortcut for opening the system shell.13:34
johnsmith92Is there any way I can rebind that key combination without touching the program itself? It does not allow to change the shortcuts13:35
lotuspsychjejohnsmith92: systemsettings/hotkeys should give you the list13:36
johnsmith92Im sorry, I think I did not explain myself well13:36
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johnsmith92I mean like, making the program recognise a key combination as Ctrl Alt T13:37
johnsmith92without pressing Ctrl Alt T physically, kind of injecting the keystrokes into it13:37
lotuspsychjejohnsmith92: does it not ask to record a new combo on terminal in systemsettings/hotkeys for you?13:39
johnsmith92lotuspsychje: Yes! but I dont want to change the shortcut that I am using for the system shell13:40
johnsmith92Id like to do something like, Ctrl + Alt + A maps to Ctrl + Alt + T (without activating the Ctrl + Alt + T action)13:41
lotuspsychjejohnsmith92: you could try dconf-editor to see if your other program allows to change hotkeys13:41
lotuspsychjeor maybe other volunteers know a handy keymap package13:42
johnsmith92Oh, unfortunately it doesn't :c thanks anyway for the idea13:44
lotuspsychjecoconut: any more luck with your wifi?13:49
coconuthey lotuspsychje, i tried to sudo apt install linux-oem-osp1 like you mentioned, but so far i could see in two reboots, that does not make a difference. I am going to make the changes from TJ-ś webpage today. I just need to know first whether i can just download and execute his script without readind it.(i am not a good bash reader).13:54
CarlFK"GNOME Terminal is a terminal emulator application"   I have 1 window with 2 tabs.  in one tab I can use the mouse wheel to scroll up and see what was printed that scrolled off the screen....14:01
CarlFKthe 2nd tab mouse wheel is like up arrow and brings back bash history14:02
CarlFKhow do I scroll?14:02
leftyfbCarlFK: what is in the 2nd window? A connection to some other device?14:03
CarlFKleftyfb: I did make a connection, but dropped it and I am back at my laptops's shell14:04
leftyfbCarlFK: ok, then it got into a weird state. Either close the tab and open a new one or type "reset". Either way, you'll lose the history of that tab14:05
CarlFKthis happens often enough that I;d like to know whats going on14:05
leftyfbCarlFK: sounds like whatever you're connecting to isn't closing the connection properly14:06
CarlFKalso: first tab I can grab a little sized "thumb?" on the scroll bar and drag it up and down, 2nd the thumb is the height of the window, so no where to move14:06
leftyfbCarlFK: you could try opening something like screen first, then connecting. Then you can use ctrl+a [    and then scroll up14:07
leftyfbCarlFK: you can also set the scroll history size in the settings of gnome terminal14:08
CarlFKleftyfb:  screen doesn't tell me what is going on.   I have ssh connections drop all the time, like when my network drops, and I can still scroll14:13
BluesKajHowdy folks14:14
lotuspsychjecoconut: ok, good luck14:15
TomyWorkCarlFK, does the 2nd tab even have a scrollback right now?14:31
TomyWorkcause what you described happens in KDE Konsole when there isn't enough in the terminal to scroll14:32
rr123I need disable rescue and emergency mode, can I just do: systemctl disable rescue and systemctl disable emergency?14:41
TomyWorktry it and see?14:41
Joelis there a safe non snap repo for chromium about?14:42
JoelI'm constantly fighting it as a snap, today's fun: snap-confine has elevated permissions and is not confined but should be. Refusing to continue to avoid permission escalation attacks: Operation not permitted14:43
TomyWorkwhat's "chromium about"?14:43
TomyWorkif you just mean regular chromium, is the apt version of chromium not recent enough or did they remove that?14:44
TomyWorkhttps://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/chromium-browser still exists14:45
TomyWorkactually wait, why is that a dummy package14:46
JoelTomyWork that's snap.14:46
TomyWorkok that makes no sense at all, wtf is wrong with ubuntu these days14:46
TomyWorkhttps://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/firefox at least firefox is still okay14:47
JoelThat's not chromium :)14:47
Joeland yes, ubuntu is getting to be the hottest of messes14:48
TomyWorkyeah i dont use chromium, i was just checking if the browser i use was still okay14:48
TomyWorkliterally no one wants snap, why the fuck do they keep porting more and more stuff to it?14:49
TomyWorkit's just a colossal waste of disk space from all the duplicate libraries14:50
JoelSorry, misread your firefox comment.14:52
BluesKajTomyWork, watch the language please15:02
TomyWorkok, but you're not a moderator15:03
eigenfireTomyWork: Doesn't matter if they're a moderator, they're just asking you to respect the rules of the channel.15:03
eigenfireTomyWork: I do agree with you regarding the snap stuff, though.15:04
TomyWorkand i said ok15:04
TheWildhello15:28
TheWildthere are no national characters in nano. All I get is ^y, ^g, ^e and similar.15:28
TheWildwhat's wrong?15:28
JoelBluesKaj you might want to use /ignore15:32
Joelit's there for a reason yo15:32
lotuspsychjeJoel: thats not the right method to avoid bad language15:34
BluesKajJoel, not necessary, a friendly reminder is usually enough15:34
Joellotuspsychje configuring your client to hide bad language isn't the right method?15:35
Joelokkkk15:35
lotuspsychjeJoel: feel free to discuss it more at #ubuntu-discuss15:35
JoelNah, I'm good, I'm comfortable with configuring my irc client15:35
JoelHappy to help you though, if you need, lmk15:36
rr123ok, there is no way I can turn off rescue mode via 'systemctl disable rescue', not even I modified rescue.service and comment its 'ExecStart' line15:42
leftyfbrr123: why do you need to disable it?15:44
rr123cause my kids use that to bypass mid-night rules15:44
rr123i need let him to reboot the machine(so no grub password etc) but not to modify root passwords15:44
leftyfbrr123: https://askubuntu.com/a/186794  first result on google for "ubuntu disable rescue mode"15:45
oerheksuh oh, We are currently offline for maintenance15:45
leftyfboh damn, that JUST happened15:45
oerheksjups15:45
leftyfbwhen I refreshed it15:45
rr123...15:45
rr123it still boots into rescue(or emergency) after I change ExecStart in rescue.service, strnage15:46
oerheksand we are back \0/15:46
rr123I need set the line su-login-shell to something that demands a password of root15:46
leftyfbrr123: please click on the link I sent you15:46
oerheks#GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true"  and run sudo update-grub15:47
oerheksnothing beats a live iso there ..15:47
rr123oerheks: which you can disable by BIOS password15:48
rr123until my kid learned discharge BIOS battery that is15:48
leftyfbsmart kids btw. Personally I'd just let them at this point. They'll probably just work around anything you throw at them15:48
rr123leftyfb: not when they do tetris overnight then sleep to 4pm15:49
lotuspsychjerr123: could try an ubuntu kiosk method15:51
legreffierrr123: if he's got physical access, he wins. don't sweat it.15:51
rr123lotuspsychje: that's too restricted in a good day for him, I just want to make sure he got some sleep after mid-night at this point15:52
geniiJust turn off the breaker that powers the computer15:52
legreffierrr123: just play with his head. ie. implement some notifications so HE gets a text message if he logs on afterhours.15:53
rr123with all these stay-at-home-for-ever going on, how to manage computer/online hours for school kids become a headache for many15:54
legreffierrr123: my parents used to put the keyboards and mice in the vault to control my use.15:54
rr123it is a business opportunity probably :)15:54
legreffierrr123: computer in a shared space is usually better15:54
oerheksput the router under your pillow15:54
lotuspsychjebios password, disable grub entrance, create limited user, dont share sudo, kiosk browser15:55
rr123he is old enought I just let him move out the study room(shared with me and can be locked after mid-night), since moved-out the rescue-mode became a necessity15:55
legreffier^^15:55
rr123anyway, GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY=true can help rescue mode, but probably not "emergency" mode, trying15:56
rr123ok that just removed "rescue" item from the advanced-boot-options under grub15:58
rr123I can easily add it back in normal grub hit a 'e'15:59
rr123so far there is no way to disable rescue/emergency boot15:59
rr123now going to remove rescue.service and emergency.service files15:59
rr123brutal force that is15:59
rr123ok that worked, it freezes the whole system :)16:01
rr123I renamed those two files16:01
Orcs53_Hi guys, I am running Ubuntu Server 20.04 on a RPi 3B+. I am trying to connect a bluetooth mouse and keyboard, I am using blueman. Can anyone assist in how to do this. I set the devices to pairing mode, but when I try pair to them in the list, they never get added as input devices.16:14
Orcs53_Any ideas?16:14
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mathnewbhow can i find out which modules are missing from a kernel i compiled? i know some are missing because the kernel doesn't boot and it says "Missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev)"16:24
mathnewbWhen I compare the different modules from a kernel that boots to this one that i compiled, there are a *lot* of modules that are not present, more than could possibly be responsible for the failure to boot16:26
mathnewbHow do I slim down the diff to figure exactly which module(s) are causing the problem?16:26
leftyfbmathnewb: why are you compiling your own kernel?16:32
lotuspsychjeOrcs53_: are you using server command line, or did you install a DE?16:33
Orcs53_I am using a desktop environment, qwm. I have installed bluez and blueman, I have been trying to use these tools to pair the input devices.16:34
mathnewbleftyb: to see if i can reproduce a bug16:36
malwar3hun73ri'm having a dns issue with openvpn on ubuntu 20.04 - this seems to be a resolv.conf / systemd resolver conflict16:36
malwar3hun73r"/etc/resolv.conf" points to "/run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf"16:37
lotuspsychjeOrcs53_: did you check of the systemd service of BT has loaded correctly?16:38
malwar3hun73rbut, stub-resolv.conf just points to local host for DNS and the correct entries appear to be in "/run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf"16:38
lotuspsychjemathnewb: are you helping contributing on ubuntu mainline kernels?16:39
malwar3hun73rsome ubuntu forum posts suggest symlinking to resolv.conf rather than stub-resolv.conf,  but others state that is the wrong approach16:39
malwar3hun73rany suggestions on how to resolve this16:39
ddstreetmalwar3hun73r systemd-resolved listens on 127.0.0.53:53 which is what stub-resolv.conf points to, what problem are you having with that?16:40
malwar3hun73rnot sure exactly, i just know that i have no dns16:40
ddstreetcheck systemd-resolve --status16:41
malwar3hun73rsystemd-resolve --status shows the correct values both for VPN tunnel and primary interface16:41
Orcs53_lotuspsychje bluetooth.service is enabled and running.16:41
ddstreetyou want to look for the dns info in the resolved status16:41
ddstreetmake sure that's correct16:41
lotuspsychjeOrcs53_: could you: journalctl -f and plug in your BT devices and pastebin the produced output please?16:42
malwar3hun73rddstreet, i can ping the DNS server, so i know it's accessible16:42
ddstreetdoes resolved list it as the current dns server for any of the links?16:42
ddstreetyou can try systemd-resolve query as well to see if resolved is able to look up stuff16:43
ddstreetsorry just 'systemd-resolve HOSTNAME' like systemd-resolve google.com16:43
malwar3hun73rddstreet, ok,  so it just started working wtf. i spent the last hour troubleshooting/reading and haven't changed any config16:43
ddstreetlol there ya go16:44
malwar3hun73ri think the only thing i may have changed was adding "up-restart" to my openvpn config16:44
Orcs53_lotuspsychje, FYI here is some of the log output for the bluetooth service. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/43yy2kFFXY/ I'll get the other information now.16:45
malwar3hun73rddstreet, ok, dns started working but i was no longer able to reach the resources through the VPN16:46
malwar3hun73rddstreet, i restarted openvpn, could once again ping, but now no DNS16:47
lotuspsychjeOrcs53_: yeah, that doesnt seem too good indeed16:47
ddstreetand you checked 'systemd-resolve --status'16:47
malwar3hun73rddstreet, yeah, that shows the correct info with the EXCEPTION that "current dns server" is incorrect16:48
ddstreetwell there you go16:48
malwar3hun73rthe "DNS servers" value lists the correct servers, but the current one is wrong16:48
malwar3hun73rhow do you fix that?16:48
malwar3hun73rit apparently fixed itself previously16:48
mathnewblotuspsychje: that's the goal. i am trying to see if this panic will happen on the vanilla kernel too or if it's ubuntu specific. but i can't get the vanilla kernel to boot into my ubuntu userland. my theory is this particular piece of hardware needs some non free driver..it's an old dell server.. that the ubuntu kernel has compiled in and that the mainstream kernel might not have enabled by default? I'm not sure though.16:50
mathnewbif there is a better forum to ask this question then i'm sorry. i am new to kernel dev.16:51
lotuspsychjemathnewb: well we reccomend to use the !mainline kernels to test things on ubuntu, for more expertise try #ubuntu-kernel for the commits etc16:52
mathnewbok ty16:52
lotuspsychje!contribute | mathnewb see also16:52
ubottumathnewb see also: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu16:52
lotuspsychjemathnewb: the community always welcomes new talents :p16:52
mathnewb:)16:54
lotuspsychjeOrcs53_: this guy solved something with rpi-updates, not sure its the same issue as you: https://github.com/raspberrypi/userland/issues/60416:54
malwar3hun73rddstreet, this is weird, i have DNS working but cannot reach anything (firefox,ping, etc)  by hostname - only IP16:56
malwar3hun73rddstreet, this is weird, i have DNS working but cannot reach anything by hostname - only IP  (using firefox,ping, etc)16:56
ddstreetwell that doesn't sound like you have dns working then16:57
malwar3hun73rso, for example, "ping hostname" fails16:57
ddstreetgive me a real example16:57
malwar3hun73rbut "nslookup hostname" returns the correct IP, then pinging that IP directly works16:57
malwar3hun73rddstreet, they are all dumb internal host names, but what i wrote immediately above is the problem16:58
ddstreetwhat's the domain16:58
malwar3hun73rdomain = localdomain16:58
ddstreetthe actual string 'localdomain'?16:58
malwar3hun73ryes16:58
ddstreetand what does 'hostname -f' show16:59
malwar3hun73rand "DNS domain" is set to "localdomain"16:59
malwar3hun73rubuntu (my hostname)16:59
ddstreetit should show 'ubuntu.localdomain'16:59
malwar3hun73rnot always16:59
ddstreetwith -f, yes always16:59
ddstreetwhat about 'grep search /etc/resolv.conf'17:00
Orcs53_lotuspsychje, I have these devices working on Raspberry Pi OS, I am not sure why they won't pair with Ubuntu.17:00
malwar3hun73r"nslookup server.localdomain" returns the correct ip, but i cannot ping that domain, it times out17:00
malwar3hun73rhowever, if i ping the IP returned  from nslookup it works17:00
Orcs53_lotuspsychje, As they work with Raspberry Pi OS. I am testing them now. I dout it is a firmware issue17:00
ddstreetwhat's the error ping gives17:01
malwar3hun73rjust times out17:01
ddstreetwhat text does it output17:01
lotuspsychjeOrcs53_: im not sure either, just trying to widen your options17:01
malwar3hun73rsearch shows two domains, one that is valid for the primary interface and one that is valid  for the VPN (localdomain)17:02
ddstreetwhat exact text does ping show you before timing out17:02
malwar3hun73rping server.localdomain17:02
malwar3hun73rPING server.localdomain (192.168.88.170) 56(84) bytes of data.17:02
lotuspsychjeOrcs53_: whats the brand of the BT devices you are trying to connect?17:02
malwar3hun73rjust sits there17:03
ddstreetis that the right ip address?17:03
malwar3hun73rnever returns anything17:03
malwar3hun73ryes, that is the correct ip17:03
Orcs53_lotuspsychje Microsoft17:03
ddstreetthen you don't have a dns problem17:03
malwar3hun73rcrazy, i waited like 2 minutes and then it started  pinging17:03
malwar3hun73ris the issue that it's trying the first listed search  domain and after that times out, moving to the other one?17:04
lotuspsychjeOrcs53_: wich kernel version are you on?17:06
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Tan_ookiHey folks, I was wondering if this was the right place to ask a tech support question.17:16
malwar3hun73rddstreet, dns  appears to be working for internal assets, but now i cannot resolve anything externall17:17
lotuspsychjeTan_ooki: ubuntu related, yes17:17
Tan_ookiI'm trying to troubleshoot a very strange printing issue that happens in both my Ubuntu Classic and XFCE w/ Ubuntu sessions.17:17
Tan_ookiBasically, anytime I tell my computer to print a file (PDF causes most issue) the whole entire session slows to a crawl.17:18
Orcs53_lotuspsychje 5.4.0-1013-raspi17:19
lotuspsychjeOrcs53_: do you run snapd on your pi?17:19
Tan_ookiI either have to wait 5-10 minutes until the computer is useable again. The printer has to finish its job before, I can really do anything.17:19
Orcs53_lotuspsychje Yes17:20
lotuspsychjeOrcs53_: there's a pi-bluetooth snap method you could try17:20
Orcs53_lotuspsychje I already downloaded that via apt.17:20
lotuspsychjeno dice?17:22
Tan_ookiIt seems like CUPS shits itself and even chrome gets confused.17:22
Tan_ookiThe printer is wireless by the way.17:24
pavlosTan_ooki: does the printer have a static ip?17:28
Tan_ookiyes it should be static17:32
Tan_ookii am getting doubled up entries when i type in "avahi-browse --all -t -r"17:33
Tan_ookifor PDL Printer,  Unix Printer, Internet Printer and _privet._tcp17:34
Tan_ookiat the moment I am using the driver supplied on the Brother website17:37
pavlosTan_ooki: is there any info in /var/log/cups/*17:38
pavlosTan_ooki: is Quite Mode enabled in the printer? can you disable it (default)?17:42
Tan_ookiin the printer? like sleep mode?17:45
Tan_ookihey pavlos, I just tried a small 2pg print drop and it seemed to respond ok17:46
Tan_ookiit seems when I do a 10 pg print job it freaks out17:47
Tan_ookidoes that clarify the issue a little bit?17:47
Tan_ookiand when it does that it seems to be loading individual pages17:47
pavlosTan_ooki: I guess it takes time to load the buffer for the 10page ... printer model?17:48
Tan_ookiBROTHER HL_L2350DW17:49
Tan_ookiI don't have this issue when connect direct via USB17:50
Tan_ookii installed the official linux driver fromt he brother website17:51
Orcs53_lotuspsychje Alright, I got the devices connected. I followed the advise here https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=229337 and here https://askubuntu.com/questions/674570/bluetooth-keyboard-microsoft-designer-keyboard-fails-to-be-added. It involves adding the experimental flage '-E' to the bluetooth.service systemd unit. After doing17:57
Orcs53_this, the mouse paired very easily. But for the keyboard, I had to use the CLI "bluetoothctl". I assume this is because it needs you to enter a code on the keyboard, and blueman did not prompt this code.17:57
Orcs53_flag*17:57
Orcs53_Thanks for your help!17:57
lotuspsychjeOrcs53_: hmm, with ubuntu 20.04 and not working by default, that might deserve a new !bug17:58
Tan_ookih/o gpta restart18:03
pavlosTan_ooki: all I could find ... https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadhowto.aspx?c=us_ot&lang=en&prod=hll2350dw_us_eu_as&os=128&dlid=dlf006893_000&flang=4&type3=62518:07
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hydrogenHi.. Trying to get a new 20.04 install working.  Network chipset is rtl8125.  Google suggests that this should magically work with kernel 5.4 but I'm not seeing the device18:21
hydrogendo I need to enable something secret?18:22
ChmEarlhydrogen, *-modules-extra ?18:22
hydrogenmodules-extra is installed18:25
hydrogenlet me try a usb nic and a kernel update to see if it magically fixes anything18:25
hydrogenyay for usb-c dongles and computers with usb-c ports18:29
hydrogenyeah, that's a negative18:37
hydrogenrealtek has the module available on the website but apparently you can't compile modules in ubuntu any more without additional crypto voodoo18:38
hydrogen?18:38
hydrogenI really don't want to compile my own module either, as thats going to be a pain every update18:40
hydrogenokay, so I had to install the module from some random github url that I found through a google search that lead me to a wiki article for odroid on a device that uses the same NIC18:53
hydrogenlinux: sponsored by google since 2002 :)18:53
oerheksone could write a DKMS too, that builds the module any kernel update18:54
hydrogenlinux: sponsored by google and vim since 2002* :)18:57
malwar3hun73rI'm auto-connecting to an openvpn server on boot in Ubuntu 20.04. The connection works, but i'm noticing that DNS does not work unless I restart the openvpn@my.service18:59
malwar3hun73rany idea why that would be?18:59
dfreyWhy is there no "repo" package in Ubuntu 20.04?  It existed up until Ubuntu 19.10.19:16
sarnolddfrey: part of the change from python2 to python319:19
sarnolddfrey: you can find the delete messages for a package on the launchpad page https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/repo  -- click on "view full publishing history" in the upper right corner, then find the focal deleted line, and click the little triangle to show the message19:19
dfreysarnold: I was guessing it had something to do with the python2 migration.  What's weird is that from looking at the source code for the 2.8.3 release, it seems that repo supports python 2.7 and 3.6+ (https://gerrit.googlesource.com/git-repo/+/refs/tags/v2.8/setup.py#60)19:24
sarnolddfrey: that'd explain why it came back with a much higher version number for groovy :)19:25
sarnolddfrey: quite a lot of packages weren't updated for py3 before focal, I udnerstand a lot of other packages met the same fate, I'm not sure they all came back19:26
dfreysarnold: Thanks.  I think I understand now19:27
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nxfifteenAnyone getting problems with dvd trays in 20.04? Mine closes as soon as its ejected. End up having to fight with the drive to get the disc out. Closest I can find is this bug, but it's over ten years old, not finding anything more recent or a solution - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/28331619:34
ubottuLaunchpad bug 283316 in udev (Ubuntu Intrepid) "CD-ROM tray closes automatically after eject" [High,Fix released]19:34
SrPxHey, is it possible to keep 2 ubuntu machines 100% in sync, in real time? As in, I have two notebooks (one small and one big) and I'd like to be able to use both as if they were the same computer (i.e., just chose one and all files are synced)19:35
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alazyI'm struggling to return a btrfs snapshot. I expect "# btrfs subvolume set-default 1296 && shutdown -r now" will have me boot into my system as it was when that snapshot was taken, but I reboot into my current (borked) system so there's something I've missed. What?19:41
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qqqhhhHello people can anyone help me with PC lockup problems in Ubuntu? Thanks.19:58
sarnoldif you're running gnome, try disabling all the gnome extensions19:58
qqqhhhI am running Mate19:59
qqqhhhUbuntu-mate19:59
qqqhhhI have a lot of information prepared, a posted it all on reddit, can i paste the link here?19:59
qqqhhhor better paste here?20:00
sarnoldqqqhhh: the link to reddit is probably best20:02
sarnoldqqqhhh: there's automated anti-abuse things that will kick, ban, etc, if you paste too much content too quickly20:02
qqqhhhhere it is https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/comments/hne80o/linux_freezes_r5_3600_at_idle/ ,thank You very much20:03
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sarnoldoh wow that's crazy :/20:06
oerheksadd yourself to this bugreport?20:07
oerhekshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/186529320:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1865293 in linux (Ubuntu) "ryzen 5 3600x soft lockups" [Undecided,Confirmed]20:07
qqqhhhThank You very much20:10
oerhekseven on 20.04 i find issues, kernel 5.4 https://superuser.com/questions/1547977/amd-ryzen-5-3600-ubuntu-20-04-problems20:12
sarnoldoerheks comes through again :D20:12
oerheksmake sure you have the latest bios update!20:12
qqqhhhYes i have the latest BIOS as written in the reddit post, 7C02v3720:12
qqqhhhI am thinking about RMA the CPU, in 25 years i have never RMA'd a CPU20:20
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tomreynqqqhhh: which is the latest kernel version you tried (you only wrote "updating os - before i had Ubuntu 16.04")?20:38
qqqhhhi used only the default kernel20:43
oerheksUbuntu Mate 19.10 5.3.0-62-generic20:43
tomreyn^ that's in the bug report oerheks had pointed to, yes. so it probably still happens with current kernels.20:44
qqqhhhon 19.04 was 5.3.0-23-generic20:44
tomreynyou could give 20.04 + !mainline a try, just for 'completeness'20:45
tomreynthe power supply idle control you had set to what?20:46
qqqhhhtypical current idle20:46
tomreyni'm a bit surprised they still have this option on current MSI BIOSes, I've got an X370 which has the lockup issue, too, they removed the option in later bioses20:47
qqqhhhi am on B45020:47
tomreyn1st gen ryzen, though20:48
tomreynwhat i do there is      @reboot /sbin/modprobe msr && /usr/sbin/wrmsr -a 0xC0010292 true20:48
qqqhhhtomreyn: that is the zenstates.py script , i tried it already ,no change20:49
tomreynright, ok20:49
qqqhhhP0 - Enabled - FID = 90 - DID = 8 - VID = 48 - Ratio = 36.00 - vCore = 1.1000020:50
qqqhhhP1 - Enabled - FID = 8C - DID = A - VID = 58 - Ratio = 28.00 - vCore = 1.0000020:50
qqqhhhP2 - Enabled - FID = 84 - DID = C - VID = 68 - Ratio = 22.00 - vCore = 0.9000020:50
qqqhhhP3 - Disabled20:50
qqqhhhP4 - Disabled20:50
qqqhhhP5 - Disabled20:50
qqqhhhP6 - Disabled20:50
qqqhhhP7 - Disabled20:50
qqqhhhC6 State - Package - Disabled20:50
tomreyn!paste20:50
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:50
tomreynyou're silenced for about a minute now.20:50
tomreynqqqhhh: so, what you pasted will have been cut off for us.20:52
qqqhhhhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Dwg27k8MBX/20:52
qqqhhhmaybe i will upgrade to 20.04 but also considering RMA'ing the CPU20:53
psprintHi. Why vim isn't linked to libX11? Clipboard doesn't work… …20:53
tomreynhmm, how did you produce this output? does zenstates.py do it?20:53
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rhoksguys, why does inxi -F give me two names for the wifi adapter like so: "Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter"20:54
qqqhhhtomreyn: zenstates.py -l20:54
rhokswhat other command can show me the adapter's name?20:54
veryloudHi! I'm having an issue with an OVPN file that works perfectly on Windows using OpenVPN GUI, but on Linux, only works for local resources and not external resources. In the Gnome NetworkManager UI, ticking "only use this network for its resources" makes every external resource work, but no internal resource works.20:55
veryloudWhat options should I start looking at20:55
qqqhhhrhoks: because two vendors are selling the same hardware20:55
rhoksoh I sees.20:55
qqqhhhrhoks: sorry i made a mistake20:55
rhoksI just wanted to find the specs of the adapter online?20:56
qqqhhhrhoks: the reason is two versions of hardware have the same id and cannot be identified apart20:56
rhoksIs there any other command to show me what adapter I have?20:56
qqqhhhrhoks: i think that is the correct identification of your HW20:57
tomreynqqqhhh: here's mine, if it matters: https://termbin.com/b31u - but i think RMA'ing is the right thig to do20:57
qqqhhhtomreyn: are you on R5 3600 ?20:57
tomreynqqqhhh: no, 1st gen ryzen (as noted above), Ryzen 7 1800X20:58
qqqhhhtomreyn: sorry i made a mistake this is my current output of zenstates https://termbin.com/hy5w20:59
rhoksSooo, I just checked the Qualcomm Atheors QCA9565 has average speeds of more than 100mbps, so how come it can't go past 50mbps when I'm downloading stuff20:59
qqqhhhrhoks: could be the router(AP)  or interference, uplink congestion or simply the server cannot give more21:00
qqqhhhrhoks: 100mbit is theoretical in ideal conditions and perfect signal21:00
qqqhhhrhoks: 50mbit is pretty good21:01
rhoksI see... Now I'm about to test it with a wired connection.21:01
qqqhhhrhoks: i get around 30mbit on my 2.4GHz in the same room as the AP21:02
tomreynqqqhhh: ASRock X370 Taichi, BIOS P5.60 06/27/2019, RAM is 2x Kingston 9965669-019.A00G21:02
qqqhhhveryloud: can you give the output of "ip ro"  ? what is the destination network you are trying to connect to ?21:04
rhoksdownload speeds are pretty much the same with a wired connection but upload was at 100mbit qqqhhh21:05
rhokscould be the laptop is also too old maybe21:05
qqqhhhrhoks: antivirus can slow down any transfers if the CPU is slow21:05
qqqhhhrhoks: sorry i though you were on Win21:06
rhokslolz21:06
rhoksNoPe not on this laptop I'm not21:06
qqqhhh rhoks: i am in regular contact with Win users  and i like to bash on AV21:07
rhoksSpeaking of which I need to choose the right AV for my newly built Gaming/Editing RiGG :D21:07
qqqhhhrhoks: i suggest none21:08
rhokswhy so qqqhhh ?21:09
qqqhhhrhoks: if you know what you are doing then you don't need one21:10
rhoksTrue that. But I will still install one since its an 8 core sexy beast of a MaChiNE :D21:12
qqqhhhrhoks: sadly many games cannot utilize such power, running on 35fps on Arma 3 :)21:17
grant_I just modified a configuration file in /etc. Is there a way I can use the package manager to create a diff?21:22
TJ-grant_: that would depend on what package and what you altered21:24
grant_I made the assumption that the package manager installs files in /etc. I modified a file in /usr/share/actions/policykit, but I'm not sure what that belongs to21:25
grant_is that the purpose of apt-file?21:25
TJ-grant_: for installed packages, "dpkg -S path/to/file" will report the package name21:26
grant_mhmm, so it belongs to packagekit21:27
grant_the dirty way to do it would be to grab the file from launchpad I guess21:27
TJ-grant_: easier way: "apt-get download $package_name" ($package.deb file in current directory) then dpkg-deb -x $package.deb ." (. extracts it to the current directory) so you'd have, e.g, ./usr/share/actions/policykit/21:29
TJ-grant_: then you can do a "diff -u ./usr/share/actions/policykit/file /usr/share/actions/policykit/file"21:31
grant_mhmm, that works but seems I pay the price in a few (m/k)bs21:32
grant_TJ-: thank you, you've been very helpful21:32
TJ-grant_: you can also do "apt-get source $package_name" if you've the deb-src entries in APTs /etc/apt/sources.list21:33
TJ-grant_: and you'll have the source-code of the package21:33
TJ-grant_: ^^ that's a common way of generating a debdiff for providing a patch to a package21:33
grant_ok, great21:34
edgarsyo!22:09
qqqhhhyello !22:09
edgarsany ideas how can i install openssh-server with preseed?22:09
qqqhhhwhat is preseed?22:09
edgarswell, that thing, when all install questions are prefilled :)22:10
qqqhhhi am reading the docs,maybe in the configuration ?22:12
qqqhhhpreseed config22:12
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veryloudqqqhhh: hi sorry for the delay, the result of `ip ro` is: https://gist.github.com/acerspyro/e913894ab7d28d93f224c2fee71d802322:27
veryloudThat's with "Use connection only for resources on its network22:27
veryloud"22:28
* genii ponders the use of github as a pastebin22:28
veryloudbetter than pastebin.com :shrug:22:28
veryloudalso that's gist, gists are half pastes, half random code snippets22:29
edgarsqqqhhh: not so easy as expected22:31
qqqhhhveryloud: what subnet are you trying to connect to22:38
pavlosedgars: can you try, d-i pkgsel/include string openssh-server build-essential22:50
pavlosedgars: I read further, it does not work22:51
pavlosedgars: but the last post of this link offers a solution, https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=241184222:54
bencc1is there a simple way to sync a local directory on a remote server and keep it synced?23:09
quadrathoch2rsync with cron bencc123:10
bencc1quadrathoch2: thanks. I mean in real time23:10
bencc1bytes I'll write on the local dir will be synced to the remote dir23:10
sarnoldwhat do you want it to do if the machines can't communicate but each one makes changes to files?23:11
bencc1only one machine will make changes23:13
bencc1something like ceph or glusterfs will probably work but I'm looking for something simpler if possible23:13
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leftyfbbencc1: dropbox23:24
pavlosbencc1: nfs?23:25
edgarspavlos i tried some solutions none of them worked23:49
mcphailbencc1: syncthing23:52
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