[00:26] <Amaranth> Intel wifi also works really well
[00:28] <Amaranth> Broadcom is the main problem for wifi chips, I think. Too bad that's all Apple seems to use but then again Apple laptops tend to be a pain to get working with Linux in general
[00:28] <oerheks> indeed, not that expensive to replace a BCM or ATH thingy
[00:29] <Amaranth> They've started soldering them in these days, some devices you can't replace it
[00:29] <oerheks> when i find an ewaste laptop with one, i tear them out.
[00:30] <Amaranth> Some others have a whitelist in the BIOS/UEFI of allowed replacements so you can't put in anything you want, it has to be a model from that list
[00:39] <pikapika> also asking here just in case it is something ubuntu specific
[00:40] <pikapika> what could be the reasons for a usb device to simply not be recognized at all, regardless of how many times I plug it in and out, nothing logged even in dmesg...and then once you reboot with it still connected...poof it works like normal?
[00:51] <RingtailedFox> pikapika, i choose you! :P
[00:53] <pikapika> :)
[00:59]  * compdoc pokes the monster
[01:13] <Peppi> hello
[01:14] <Peppi> so by default it the firewall on or off? I'm trying to setup a minecraft server on an old laptop and am having connection issues
[01:16] <Peppi> is there any way to test out if I can connect to the laptop through the firewall?
[01:17] <quadrathoch2> Peppi the firewall is off by default
[01:18] <Peppi> quadrathoch2, isn't that a little unsafe? Or are there no services running by default?
[01:20] <Peppi> ohh weird it's working now
[01:24] <quadrathoch2> Peppi, idk what canonical thought about it
[01:28] <Peppi> quadrathoch2, what do you think about it?
[01:33] <oerheks> !ufw
[01:33] <oerheks> !info gufw
[01:34] <oerheks> no firewall rule = no port open
[01:36] <Rusty_Almighty> Does anyone know if there is a sub-channel for automated  install or pre-seed questions ?
[01:51] <Rusty_Almighty> Searching around a bit more.  The answer to my question is "No".
[01:51] <Rusty_Almighty> Hence posting my question here.
[01:52] <sarnold> Rusty_Almighty: #ubuntu-server perhaps; if no one's around, you may need to go to ...
[01:53] <sarnold> .. discourse.ubuntu.com
[02:33] <p0wder> on ubuntu 20.04 my screen dims everytime i plug in my charger, and i have to turn the brightness back up. is there a setting where i can tell it to not do that?
[02:33] <k_sze> On Ubuntu 18.04, the media function keys can suddenly stop working, both on my laptop's built-in keyboard and on my external USB keyboard.
[02:34] <k_sze> Anybody knows how to fix that without a reboot?
[02:34] <p0wder> not sure..
[02:35] <k_sze> To be accurate, only the play/pause, stop, prev track, and next track keys stop working.
[02:35] <k_sze> mute, vol up, and vol down still work.
[02:38] <k_sze> Looks like I'm not the only one to run into this problem: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1220445/multimedia-keys-sometimes-stop-working
[02:40] <p0wder> i was just testing my media keys and just found out one is a sleep key lol
[02:41] <p0wder> this laptop doesnt wake from sleep properly- i need to try to get that figured out too
[02:41] <p0wder> it wakes from sleep to a blank screen, and never goes back to the login- i have to hard reboot everytime
[02:42] <p0wder> Host: HP EliteBook 6930p
[02:43] <sarnold> p0wder: < k_sze> Looks like I'm not the only one to run into this problem: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1220445/multimedia-keys-sometimes-stop-working
[02:44] <k_sze> And my laptop doesn't want to sleep when running Ubuntu.
[02:44] <p0wder> mine seem to be working fine- i use them to get my screen brightness back
[02:44] <k_sze> Still haven't figured out how to fix it.
[02:45] <p0wder> it dims everytime i plug it in, even tho i have the brightness all the way up in gnome settings
[02:49] <swift110> hey all
[02:50] <p0wder> it would make sense doing it when you unplug it, not the other way around..
[02:50] <p0wder> hey
[02:51] <sarnold> p0wder: how about, plug it in, set the new desired setting, immediately unplug it..
[02:51] <sarnold> p0wder: I wonder if it's smart enough to save on state change and retain that for next time?
[02:51] <p0wder> let me try real quick
[02:52] <k_sze> fixed my media keys
[02:52] <k_sze> `killall gsd-media-keys` did it for me.
[02:52] <p0wder> nope.. its got to be a bios setting or something
[02:52] <p0wder> nice k!
[02:52] <k_sze> but why was that even necessary...
[02:53] <swift110> hey all
[02:53] <p0wder> brighness was all the way up, unplugged and it dimmed but brightness still said all the way up, i slid it back and forth and the brightness went back up
[02:54] <p0wder> maybe i should try logging in with gnome on xorg instead of wayland?
[02:55] <p0wder> hey swift
[02:55] <sarnold> good idea
[02:55] <p0wder> k. gonna try. brb
[02:57] <p0wder> nope.. same thing
[02:58] <sarnold> :(
[02:58] <sarnold> are any bios updates available via fwupdmgr?
[03:01] <p0wder> nope
[03:02] <p0wder> i need to work on some other stuff- will try to revisit this later
[03:02] <p0wder> thanks for tryin!
[03:02] <sarnold> good luck :)
[03:02] <p0wder> thanx. ttyl
[04:33] <Peppi> hello
[04:34] <Peppi> is it possible when you install ubuntu that the network card drivers not be working well? And what are the odds I could find the drivers for my card if the default install doesn't find them? The wireless appears to be working well.
[05:28] <gry> Peppi: hi
[05:28] <gry> Peppi: if wireless appears to be working well, then what is the problem?
[05:29] <gry> Peppi: what is not working?
[06:02] <ktosiek> Hi! How often is the USB hwdb updated? I've ordered a pretty new USB headset, which seems to be listed in systemd's git repo but not on my focal install
[06:03] <ktosiek> (I know I can drop in the missing udev rules, but it would be even better to have them automagically appear :-))
[06:15] <cjoke> howto change default kernel to boot ? earlier I did find a command that did that for me, rather than edit files.
[06:52] <veebox> i just fresh installed 20.04, removed all snap stuff, and now want to install the gnome-software, but when i do 'apt install' it still wants to install snap
[06:53] <veebox> how can i install gnome-software (software center) without using snap ?
[06:56] <gurki> if the employer actually cares just doing "rm" is not enough.
[06:56] <gurki> sh... my scroll failed
[06:56] <gurki> ignore that message
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> veebox: ubuntu software is now the snap-store, so just install gnome software from apt
[07:10] <ducasse> veebox: install with --no-install-recommends
[07:11] <veebox> after more searching,, i may have answered my own question.  sudo apt install gnome-software snapd-
[07:12] <veebox> ah ducasse that looks like what i wanterd.  i was still trying things while waiting for a possible answer from here.  thanks!
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> cjoke: did you play with the mainline kernels? or what did you do exactly?
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> ktosiek: its reccomended if your hardware doesnt work out of the box on ubuntu, you file a new !bug or affect to an existing one, this way the devs can counter changes to the future for your specific hardware
[07:31] <cjoke> lotuspsychje: I did play around and wanted lowlatency kernel as defaul, and there was a command where I was lead into a config with checkboxes , where all kernels where listed.
[07:32] <cjoke> and I dont remember that command.
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> cjoke: wich ubuntu version are you on please, and can you pastebin a: dpkg --list | grep linux-image
[07:35] <oerheks> ukuu ? unsupported tool
[07:37] <cjoke> lotuspsychje: linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04 and linux-image-lowlatency lates now is 5.4.0-40 so I have also 5.4.0-39 just in case.
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> cjoke: -40 is default on 20.04 currently
[07:39] <oerheks> linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04 does exist, but brings no newer kernel than stock kernel IIRC
[07:39] <cjoke> yes, but I switched to lowlatency kernel , and that was with that command. no configfiles.
[07:39] <oerheks> too early :-D
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> cjoke: pastebin the command please, so we can see your kernel list
[07:45] <cjoke> well, now I see I was not clear enough. so sorry for that, case is, I dont remember that command. Thats what Im asking for.
[07:54] <halvar> good day :-) -- I am trying to mirror the contents of ddeb.ubuntu.com, and can't figure out if there's an rsync server for those contents anywhere
[07:54] <halvar> does anyone happen to know ?
[07:59] <XsiSec> Hi Folks
[08:19] <zetheroo> Does anyone know what could be causing this? https://ibb.co/7kzVCDs
[08:23] <oerheks> hard to search when you post a screenshot...
[08:23] <oerheks> can you pastebin it? paste.ubuntu.com
[08:26] <zetheroo> it's printed on the login of Ubuntu server and I can't select the text there
[08:26] <zetheroo> would it also be in a log probably?
[08:30] <zetheroo>  oerheks: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8n9ZVMvshW/
[08:30] <oerheks> journalctl i think
[08:31] <oerheks> oke, you have no HWE enabled, 4.15.0-109
[08:32] <oerheks> zetheroo, waht hardware is this?
[08:37] <zetheroo> oerheks: it's a VM on Proxmox
[09:31] <ne2k> running focal on a fairly old machine with nvidia GT430 graphics. using proprietary driver, v390, which is latest according to nvidia. two displays connected. one 1680x1050 on DVI, works fine. one 2560x1440 on HDMI, will only go up to 1920x1080, although read-edid|parse-edid implies 2560x1440 is a supported mode, and graphics card specs say it is as well
[09:33] <ne2k> any clues as to what I might try?
[09:34] <ne2k> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2038997 found this old thread from 2012 that appears to be related to this sort of problem, but I would have thought all this sort of manually editing config file would be behind us!
[09:38] <charolastra> anyone know when the server upgrade to 20.04 LTS will be expected?
[09:42] <TJ-> ne2k: what does "xrandr -q" report ?
[09:42] <ne2k> TJ-, that does not include the 2560x1440 mode for that screen
[09:43] <TJ-> charolastra: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule
[09:43] <TJ-> ne2k: that is strange - it should show what the EDID reports from that output
[09:43] <ne2k> is it possible I would need to use DVI for it? might it be that an old card like that can't do higher than 1080 on HDMI?
[09:43] <TJ-> ne2k: that's a good thought - yes, it could be
[09:44] <ne2k> TJ-, I did read soemthing like that about a particular card on another thread. let me fiddle with cables. I'll be back in a few mins
[09:44] <lovelytingy> hey guys i'm having problem installing wine32.
[09:46] <ne2k> TJ-, WOOHOO!
[09:48] <ne2k> TJ-, I didn't have a DVI to DVI cable before yesterday, I only had HDMI to DVI ones, so I was running the 1680x1050 monitor (which doesn't have HDMI) from the HDMI output to DVI input, and the 2560x1440 monitor on the DVI output to HDMI input. then I got a DVI to DVI cable and swapped it so I was doing DVI to DVI and HDMI to HDMI (as I assumed that would be best)
[09:49] <ne2k> TJ-, but obviously not. so now I need to find another HDMI to DVI cable and run the 1680x1050 screen on HDMI to DVI
[09:49] <ne2k> TJ-, does annoyingly mean I can't take advantage of HDMI audio on the 2560x1440 screen, but hey
[09:49] <ne2k> woudl rather have full res than that
[09:52] <ViperXL75> Has anyone tried setting up/installing an Airplay receiver/server on Ubuntu? Like when someone searches on his/her iphone for an Airplay to stream media, that it sees and connects to ur Ubuntu machine? (Also the same question for Android)
[09:58] <ne2k> TJ-, awesome, both monitors full res! thanks for your help
[10:36] <makara> hi. I'm trying to map the alt-k key sequence in .vimrc. Not working. Does Ubuntu 20.04/Gnome terminal have some special use for alt?
[10:37] <makara> i ran `sed -n l` and it gives "^[k" for alt-k
[10:57] <yolan> Hello, how to enable stereo output in ubuntu 20/04
[11:02] <yolan> If I left it on stereo, I only have sound in one side
[11:24] <ne2k> resizing a termianl window shows the size in characters. on xenial I was able to install compizconfig-settings-manager and enable a plugin called resize info to enable this for all windows (in pixels). is there somethign equivalent in focal now that unity/compiz is gone and we have gnome shell?
[11:37] <taq> Hi! I'm using Ubuntu 20.04 and noticed a weird behaviour. When I define the wallpaper image, ok, now is the same image for the lock screen and wallpaper, but on *every* first boot I get a misterious image I don't know where is coming from. Is a beach or something. I already checked my images on home and even removed the wallpaper images from /usr, but the misterious image is still there. Any tips how can I change it? Thanks!
[11:51] <Vooloo> I added a rule to ufw to block website traffic to an IP on port 80, but it is still accessing my machine
[12:01] <ne2k> Vooloo, your statement sounds confused. you say you blocked traffic "to" an IP, but then imply your problem is inbound traffic
[12:01] <Vooloo> from an ip
[12:01] <ne2k> Vooloo, what are you trying to achieve, and what did you do?
[12:01] <Vooloo> block traffic to my machine from an IP and I inserted it on rule 1
[12:02] <Vooloo> sudo ufw insert 1 deny from x.x.x.x/16 to any
[12:03] <ne2k> Vooloo, I'm afraid I don't know anything about ufw, only iptables. you might try #networking, they're good in there
[12:09] <ViperXL75> Has anyone tried setting up/installing an Airplay receiver/server on Ubuntu? Like when someone searches on his/her iphone for an Airplay to stream media, that it sees and connects to ur Ubuntu machine? (Also the same question for Android)
[12:44] <Igloo> Hi all! Does anyone know how I can X-forward chromium please? All my attempts are just giving me a blank, white window
[12:49] <DarkTrick> Igloo, I'm not sure, but aren't there apps you can't X-forward? (I'm really not sure, though)
[13:10] <Igloo> Ah, "export QT_X11_NO_MITSHM=1" appears to have done the trick
[13:13] <johnsmith92> Hello everyone! I am on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and I have a two monitor setup configuration (the main monitor uses DisplayPort and the secondary uses DVI). When in the main monitor I change the input source to something else, and then I choose DisplayPort again, Ubuntu sets the monitor as "off" until I reactivate it from the settings
[13:14] <johnsmith92> For example if I change the input source to play a console game, then return to my pc source (displayport) the screen stays black because Ubuntu has "disabled" my monitor, until I enable it again from gnome settings or nvidia x server settings
[13:14] <johnsmith92> This is very annoying :c any idea of how can I fix it?
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> johnsmith92: wich nvidia chipset and driver version please?
[13:15] <johnsmith92> Driver version is 440.100 and I am not sure about the cipset, I am using Nvidia GTX 1080
[13:17] <johnsmith92> If that's the meaning of nvidia chipset? I just know how the GPU model
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> johnsmith92: did you try a driver switch yet?
[13:20] <johnsmith92> lotuspsychje: like a rollback? I am using the latest driver version I think
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> johnsmith92: no, its not a rollback, its just 440 has several bugs currently, its more to test if it influences your issue
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> johnsmith92: a switch to 435 for example
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> johnsmith92: if its a hybrid optimus card, please also check nvidia-settings for prime
[13:23] <johnsmith92> what's a hybrid optimus card? I am running a GTX 1080 (desktop, just in case)
[13:23] <johnsmith92> I can try the switch to 435
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> johnsmith92: ok, then its not your case, nevermind the last
[13:24] <johnsmith92> do I have to uninstall the current driver first or it will get uninstalled automatically when I install the new one?
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> johnsmith92: from software&sources/tab additional drivers you can do the switch & reboot if you like
[13:27] <johnsmith92> lotuspsychje: perfect! applying the 435 driver right now, i will tell you if it still happens in a bit
[13:27] <lotuspsychje> johnsmith92: great, good luck
[13:30] <johnsmith92> lotuspsychje: wow! that did the trick, thanks a lot!
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> johnsmith92: welcome
[13:31] <johnsmith92> I thought 440.100 was the most stable LTS one
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> johnsmith92: well ubuntu-drivers is indeed suppose to pick the best driver for your cards chipset, but as 20.04 has also still some bugs to solve till 20.04.1 things are still going wrong for the 440
[13:33] <johnsmith92> Oh! that makes a lot of sense, thanks!
[13:34] <johnsmith92> I have another question besides that one as well, I have a program that has Ctrl + Alt + T assigned to an option but I use the same shortcut for opening the system shell.
[13:35] <johnsmith92> Is there any way I can rebind that key combination without touching the program itself? It does not allow to change the shortcuts
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> johnsmith92: systemsettings/hotkeys should give you the list
[13:36] <johnsmith92> Im sorry, I think I did not explain myself well
[13:37] <johnsmith92> I mean like, making the program recognise a key combination as Ctrl Alt T
[13:37] <johnsmith92> without pressing Ctrl Alt T physically, kind of injecting the keystrokes into it
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> johnsmith92: does it not ask to record a new combo on terminal in systemsettings/hotkeys for you?
[13:40] <johnsmith92> lotuspsychje: Yes! but I dont want to change the shortcut that I am using for the system shell
[13:41] <johnsmith92> Id like to do something like, Ctrl + Alt + A maps to Ctrl + Alt + T (without activating the Ctrl + Alt + T action)
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> johnsmith92: you could try dconf-editor to see if your other program allows to change hotkeys
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> or maybe other volunteers know a handy keymap package
[13:44] <johnsmith92> Oh, unfortunately it doesn't :c thanks anyway for the idea
[13:49] <lotuspsychje> coconut: any more luck with your wifi?
[13:54] <coconut> hey lotuspsychje, i tried to sudo apt install linux-oem-osp1 like you mentioned, but so far i could see in two reboots, that does not make a difference. I am going to make the changes from TJ-ś webpage today. I just need to know first whether i can just download and execute his script without readind it.(i am not a good bash reader).
[14:01] <CarlFK> "GNOME Terminal is a terminal emulator application"   I have 1 window with 2 tabs.  in one tab I can use the mouse wheel to scroll up and see what was printed that scrolled off the screen....
[14:02] <CarlFK> the 2nd tab mouse wheel is like up arrow and brings back bash history
[14:02] <CarlFK> how do I scroll?
[14:03] <leftyfb> CarlFK: what is in the 2nd window? A connection to some other device?
[14:04] <CarlFK> leftyfb: I did make a connection, but dropped it and I am back at my laptops's shell
[14:05] <leftyfb> CarlFK: ok, then it got into a weird state. Either close the tab and open a new one or type "reset". Either way, you'll lose the history of that tab
[14:05] <CarlFK> this happens often enough that I;d like to know whats going on
[14:06] <leftyfb> CarlFK: sounds like whatever you're connecting to isn't closing the connection properly
[14:06] <CarlFK> also: first tab I can grab a little sized "thumb?" on the scroll bar and drag it up and down, 2nd the thumb is the height of the window, so no where to move
[14:07] <leftyfb> CarlFK: you could try opening something like screen first, then connecting. Then you can use ctrl+a [    and then scroll up
[14:08] <leftyfb> CarlFK: you can also set the scroll history size in the settings of gnome terminal
[14:13] <CarlFK> leftyfb:  screen doesn't tell me what is going on.   I have ssh connections drop all the time, like when my network drops, and I can still scroll
[14:14] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> coconut: ok, good luck
[14:31] <TomyWork> CarlFK, does the 2nd tab even have a scrollback right now?
[14:32] <TomyWork> cause what you described happens in KDE Konsole when there isn't enough in the terminal to scroll
[14:41] <rr123> I need disable rescue and emergency mode, can I just do: systemctl disable rescue and systemctl disable emergency?
[14:41] <TomyWork> try it and see?
[14:42] <Joel> is there a safe non snap repo for chromium about?
[14:43] <Joel> I'm constantly fighting it as a snap, today's fun: snap-confine has elevated permissions and is not confined but should be. Refusing to continue to avoid permission escalation attacks: Operation not permitted
[14:43] <TomyWork> what's "chromium about"?
[14:44] <TomyWork> if you just mean regular chromium, is the apt version of chromium not recent enough or did they remove that?
[14:45] <TomyWork> https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/chromium-browser still exists
[14:46] <TomyWork> actually wait, why is that a dummy package
[14:46] <Joel> TomyWork that's snap.
[14:46] <TomyWork> ok that makes no sense at all, wtf is wrong with ubuntu these days
[14:47] <TomyWork> https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/firefox at least firefox is still okay
[14:47] <Joel> That's not chromium :)
[14:48] <Joel> and yes, ubuntu is getting to be the hottest of messes
[14:48] <TomyWork> yeah i dont use chromium, i was just checking if the browser i use was still okay
[14:49] <TomyWork> literally no one wants snap, why the fuck do they keep porting more and more stuff to it?
[14:50] <TomyWork> it's just a colossal waste of disk space from all the duplicate libraries
[14:52] <Joel> Sorry, misread your firefox comment.
[15:02] <BluesKaj> TomyWork, watch the language please
[15:03] <TomyWork> ok, but you're not a moderator
[15:03] <eigenfire> TomyWork: Doesn't matter if they're a moderator, they're just asking you to respect the rules of the channel.
[15:04] <eigenfire> TomyWork: I do agree with you regarding the snap stuff, though.
[15:04] <TomyWork> and i said ok
[15:28] <TheWild> hello
[15:28] <TheWild> there are no national characters in nano. All I get is ^y, ^g, ^e and similar.
[15:28] <TheWild> what's wrong?
[15:32] <Joel> BluesKaj you might want to use /ignore
[15:32] <Joel> it's there for a reason yo
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> Joel: thats not the right method to avoid bad language
[15:34] <BluesKaj> Joel, not necessary, a friendly reminder is usually enough
[15:35] <Joel> lotuspsychje configuring your client to hide bad language isn't the right method?
[15:35] <Joel> okkkk
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> Joel: feel free to discuss it more at #ubuntu-discuss
[15:35] <Joel> Nah, I'm good, I'm comfortable with configuring my irc client
[15:36] <Joel> Happy to help you though, if you need, lmk
[15:42] <rr123> ok, there is no way I can turn off rescue mode via 'systemctl disable rescue', not even I modified rescue.service and comment its 'ExecStart' line
[15:44] <leftyfb> rr123: why do you need to disable it?
[15:44] <rr123> cause my kids use that to bypass mid-night rules
[15:44] <rr123> i need let him to reboot the machine(so no grub password etc) but not to modify root passwords
[15:45] <leftyfb> rr123: https://askubuntu.com/a/186794  first result on google for "ubuntu disable rescue mode"
[15:45] <oerheks> uh oh, We are currently offline for maintenance
[15:45] <leftyfb> oh damn, that JUST happened
[15:45] <oerheks> jups
[15:45] <leftyfb> when I refreshed it
[15:45] <rr123> ...
[15:46] <rr123> it still boots into rescue(or emergency) after I change ExecStart in rescue.service, strnage
[15:46] <oerheks> and we are back \0/
[15:46] <rr123> I need set the line su-login-shell to something that demands a password of root
[15:46] <leftyfb> rr123: please click on the link I sent you
[15:47] <oerheks> #GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true"  and run sudo update-grub
[15:47] <oerheks> nothing beats a live iso there ..
[15:48] <rr123> oerheks: which you can disable by BIOS password
[15:48] <rr123> until my kid learned discharge BIOS battery that is
[15:48] <leftyfb> smart kids btw. Personally I'd just let them at this point. They'll probably just work around anything you throw at them
[15:49] <rr123> leftyfb: not when they do tetris overnight then sleep to 4pm
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> rr123: could try an ubuntu kiosk method
[15:51] <legreffier> rr123: if he's got physical access, he wins. don't sweat it.
[15:52] <rr123> lotuspsychje: that's too restricted in a good day for him, I just want to make sure he got some sleep after mid-night at this point
[15:52] <genii> Just turn off the breaker that powers the computer
[15:53] <legreffier> rr123: just play with his head. ie. implement some notifications so HE gets a text message if he logs on afterhours.
[15:54] <rr123> with all these stay-at-home-for-ever going on, how to manage computer/online hours for school kids become a headache for many
[15:54] <legreffier> rr123: my parents used to put the keyboards and mice in the vault to control my use.
[15:54] <rr123> it is a business opportunity probably :)
[15:54] <legreffier> rr123: computer in a shared space is usually better
[15:54] <oerheks> put the router under your pillow
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> bios password, disable grub entrance, create limited user, dont share sudo, kiosk browser
[15:55] <rr123> he is old enought I just let him move out the study room(shared with me and can be locked after mid-night), since moved-out the rescue-mode became a necessity
[15:55] <legreffier> ^^
[15:56] <rr123> anyway, GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY=true can help rescue mode, but probably not "emergency" mode, trying
[15:58] <rr123> ok that just removed "rescue" item from the advanced-boot-options under grub
[15:59] <rr123> I can easily add it back in normal grub hit a 'e'
[15:59] <rr123> so far there is no way to disable rescue/emergency boot
[15:59] <rr123> now going to remove rescue.service and emergency.service files
[15:59] <rr123> brutal force that is
[16:01] <rr123> ok that worked, it freezes the whole system :)
[16:01] <rr123> I renamed those two files
[16:14] <Orcs53_> Hi guys, I am running Ubuntu Server 20.04 on a RPi 3B+. I am trying to connect a bluetooth mouse and keyboard, I am using blueman. Can anyone assist in how to do this. I set the devices to pairing mode, but when I try pair to them in the list, they never get added as input devices.
[16:14] <Orcs53_> Any ideas?
[16:24] <mathnewb> how can i find out which modules are missing from a kernel i compiled? i know some are missing because the kernel doesn't boot and it says "Missing modules (cat /proc/modules; ls /dev)"
[16:26] <mathnewb> When I compare the different modules from a kernel that boots to this one that i compiled, there are a *lot* of modules that are not present, more than could possibly be responsible for the failure to boot
[16:26] <mathnewb> How do I slim down the diff to figure exactly which module(s) are causing the problem?
[16:32] <leftyfb> mathnewb: why are you compiling your own kernel?
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> Orcs53_: are you using server command line, or did you install a DE?
[16:34] <Orcs53_> I am using a desktop environment, qwm. I have installed bluez and blueman, I have been trying to use these tools to pair the input devices.
[16:36] <mathnewb> leftyb: to see if i can reproduce a bug
[16:36] <malwar3hun73r> i'm having a dns issue with openvpn on ubuntu 20.04 - this seems to be a resolv.conf / systemd resolver conflict
[16:37] <malwar3hun73r> "/etc/resolv.conf" points to "/run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf"
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> Orcs53_: did you check of the systemd service of BT has loaded correctly?
[16:38] <malwar3hun73r> but, stub-resolv.conf just points to local host for DNS and the correct entries appear to be in "/run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf"
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> mathnewb: are you helping contributing on ubuntu mainline kernels?
[16:39] <malwar3hun73r> some ubuntu forum posts suggest symlinking to resolv.conf rather than stub-resolv.conf,  but others state that is the wrong approach
[16:39] <malwar3hun73r> any suggestions on how to resolve this
[16:40] <ddstreet> malwar3hun73r systemd-resolved listens on 127.0.0.53:53 which is what stub-resolv.conf points to, what problem are you having with that?
[16:40] <malwar3hun73r> not sure exactly, i just know that i have no dns
[16:41] <ddstreet> check systemd-resolve --status
[16:41] <malwar3hun73r> systemd-resolve --status shows the correct values both for VPN tunnel and primary interface
[16:41] <Orcs53_> lotuspsychje bluetooth.service is enabled and running.
[16:41] <ddstreet> you want to look for the dns info in the resolved status
[16:41] <ddstreet> make sure that's correct
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> Orcs53_: could you: journalctl -f and plug in your BT devices and pastebin the produced output please?
[16:42] <malwar3hun73r> ddstreet, i can ping the DNS server, so i know it's accessible
[16:42] <ddstreet> does resolved list it as the current dns server for any of the links?
[16:43] <ddstreet> you can try systemd-resolve query as well to see if resolved is able to look up stuff
[16:43] <ddstreet> sorry just 'systemd-resolve HOSTNAME' like systemd-resolve google.com
[16:43] <malwar3hun73r> ddstreet, ok,  so it just started working wtf. i spent the last hour troubleshooting/reading and haven't changed any config
[16:44] <ddstreet> lol there ya go
[16:44] <malwar3hun73r> i think the only thing i may have changed was adding "up-restart" to my openvpn config
[16:45] <Orcs53_> lotuspsychje, FYI here is some of the log output for the bluetooth service. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/43yy2kFFXY/ I'll get the other information now.
[16:46] <malwar3hun73r> ddstreet, ok, dns started working but i was no longer able to reach the resources through the VPN
[16:47] <malwar3hun73r> ddstreet, i restarted openvpn, could once again ping, but now no DNS
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> Orcs53_: yeah, that doesnt seem too good indeed
[16:47] <ddstreet> and you checked 'systemd-resolve --status'
[16:48] <malwar3hun73r> ddstreet, yeah, that shows the correct info with the EXCEPTION that "current dns server" is incorrect
[16:48] <ddstreet> well there you go
[16:48] <malwar3hun73r> the "DNS servers" value lists the correct servers, but the current one is wrong
[16:48] <malwar3hun73r> how do you fix that?
[16:48] <malwar3hun73r> it apparently fixed itself previously
[16:50] <mathnewb> lotuspsychje: that's the goal. i am trying to see if this panic will happen on the vanilla kernel too or if it's ubuntu specific. but i can't get the vanilla kernel to boot into my ubuntu userland. my theory is this particular piece of hardware needs some non free driver..it's an old dell server.. that the ubuntu kernel has compiled in and that the mainstream kernel might not have enabled by default? I'm not sure though.
[16:51] <mathnewb> if there is a better forum to ask this question then i'm sorry. i am new to kernel dev.
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> mathnewb: well we reccomend to use the !mainline kernels to test things on ubuntu, for more expertise try #ubuntu-kernel for the commits etc
[16:52] <mathnewb> ok ty
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> !contribute | mathnewb see also
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> mathnewb: the community always welcomes new talents :p
[16:54] <mathnewb> :)
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> Orcs53_: this guy solved something with rpi-updates, not sure its the same issue as you: https://github.com/raspberrypi/userland/issues/604
[16:56] <malwar3hun73r> ddstreet, this is weird, i have DNS working but cannot reach anything (firefox,ping, etc)  by hostname - only IP
[16:56] <malwar3hun73r> ddstreet, this is weird, i have DNS working but cannot reach anything by hostname - only IP  (using firefox,ping, etc)
[16:57] <ddstreet> well that doesn't sound like you have dns working then
[16:57] <malwar3hun73r> so, for example, "ping hostname" fails
[16:57] <ddstreet> give me a real example
[16:57] <malwar3hun73r> but "nslookup hostname" returns the correct IP, then pinging that IP directly works
[16:58] <malwar3hun73r> ddstreet, they are all dumb internal host names, but what i wrote immediately above is the problem
[16:58] <ddstreet> what's the domain
[16:58] <malwar3hun73r> domain = localdomain
[16:58] <ddstreet> the actual string 'localdomain'?
[16:58] <malwar3hun73r> yes
[16:59] <ddstreet> and what does 'hostname -f' show
[16:59] <malwar3hun73r> and "DNS domain" is set to "localdomain"
[16:59] <malwar3hun73r> ubuntu (my hostname)
[16:59] <ddstreet> it should show 'ubuntu.localdomain'
[16:59] <malwar3hun73r> not always
[16:59] <ddstreet> with -f, yes always
[17:00] <ddstreet> what about 'grep search /etc/resolv.conf'
[17:00] <Orcs53_> lotuspsychje, I have these devices working on Raspberry Pi OS, I am not sure why they won't pair with Ubuntu.
[17:00] <malwar3hun73r> "nslookup server.localdomain" returns the correct ip, but i cannot ping that domain, it times out
[17:00] <malwar3hun73r> however, if i ping the IP returned  from nslookup it works
[17:00] <Orcs53_> lotuspsychje, As they work with Raspberry Pi OS. I am testing them now. I dout it is a firmware issue
[17:01] <ddstreet> what's the error ping gives
[17:01] <malwar3hun73r> just times out
[17:01] <ddstreet> what text does it output
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> Orcs53_: im not sure either, just trying to widen your options
[17:02] <malwar3hun73r> search shows two domains, one that is valid for the primary interface and one that is valid  for the VPN (localdomain)
[17:02] <ddstreet> what exact text does ping show you before timing out
[17:02] <malwar3hun73r> ping server.localdomain
[17:02] <malwar3hun73r> PING server.localdomain (192.168.88.170) 56(84) bytes of data.
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> Orcs53_: whats the brand of the BT devices you are trying to connect?
[17:03] <malwar3hun73r> just sits there
[17:03] <ddstreet> is that the right ip address?
[17:03] <malwar3hun73r> never returns anything
[17:03] <malwar3hun73r> yes, that is the correct ip
[17:03] <Orcs53_> lotuspsychje Microsoft
[17:03] <ddstreet> then you don't have a dns problem
[17:03] <malwar3hun73r> crazy, i waited like 2 minutes and then it started  pinging
[17:04] <malwar3hun73r> is the issue that it's trying the first listed search  domain and after that times out, moving to the other one?
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> Orcs53_: wich kernel version are you on?
[17:16] <Tan_ooki> Hey folks, I was wondering if this was the right place to ask a tech support question.
[17:17] <malwar3hun73r> ddstreet, dns  appears to be working for internal assets, but now i cannot resolve anything externall
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> Tan_ooki: ubuntu related, yes
[17:17] <Tan_ooki> I'm trying to troubleshoot a very strange printing issue that happens in both my Ubuntu Classic and XFCE w/ Ubuntu sessions.
[17:18] <Tan_ooki> Basically, anytime I tell my computer to print a file (PDF causes most issue) the whole entire session slows to a crawl.
[17:19] <Orcs53_> lotuspsychje 5.4.0-1013-raspi
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> Orcs53_: do you run snapd on your pi?
[17:19] <Tan_ooki> I either have to wait 5-10 minutes until the computer is useable again. The printer has to finish its job before, I can really do anything.
[17:20] <Orcs53_> lotuspsychje Yes
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> Orcs53_: there's a pi-bluetooth snap method you could try
[17:20] <Orcs53_> lotuspsychje I already downloaded that via apt.
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> no dice?
[17:22] <Tan_ooki> It seems like CUPS shits itself and even chrome gets confused.
[17:24] <Tan_ooki> The printer is wireless by the way.
[17:28] <pavlos> Tan_ooki: does the printer have a static ip?
[17:32] <Tan_ooki> yes it should be static
[17:33] <Tan_ooki> i am getting doubled up entries when i type in "avahi-browse --all -t -r"
[17:34] <Tan_ooki> for PDL Printer,  Unix Printer, Internet Printer and _privet._tcp
[17:37] <Tan_ooki> at the moment I am using the driver supplied on the Brother website
[17:38] <pavlos> Tan_ooki: is there any info in /var/log/cups/*
[17:42] <pavlos> Tan_ooki: is Quite Mode enabled in the printer? can you disable it (default)?
[17:45] <Tan_ooki> in the printer? like sleep mode?
[17:46] <Tan_ooki> hey pavlos, I just tried a small 2pg print drop and it seemed to respond ok
[17:47] <Tan_ooki> it seems when I do a 10 pg print job it freaks out
[17:47] <Tan_ooki> does that clarify the issue a little bit?
[17:47] <Tan_ooki> and when it does that it seems to be loading individual pages
[17:48] <pavlos> Tan_ooki: I guess it takes time to load the buffer for the 10page ... printer model?
[17:49] <Tan_ooki> BROTHER HL_L2350DW
[17:50] <Tan_ooki> I don't have this issue when connect direct via USB
[17:51] <Tan_ooki> i installed the official linux driver fromt he brother website
[17:57] <Orcs53_> lotuspsychje Alright, I got the devices connected. I followed the advise here https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=229337 and here https://askubuntu.com/questions/674570/bluetooth-keyboard-microsoft-designer-keyboard-fails-to-be-added. It involves adding the experimental flage '-E' to the bluetooth.service systemd unit. After doing
[17:57] <Orcs53_> this, the mouse paired very easily. But for the keyboard, I had to use the CLI "bluetoothctl". I assume this is because it needs you to enter a code on the keyboard, and blueman did not prompt this code.
[17:57] <Orcs53_> flag*
[17:57] <Orcs53_> Thanks for your help!
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> Orcs53_: hmm, with ubuntu 20.04 and not working by default, that might deserve a new !bug
[18:03] <Tan_ooki> h/o gpta restart
[18:07] <pavlos> Tan_ooki: all I could find ... https://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadhowto.aspx?c=us_ot&lang=en&prod=hll2350dw_us_eu_as&os=128&dlid=dlf006893_000&flang=4&type3=625
[18:21] <hydrogen> Hi.. Trying to get a new 20.04 install working.  Network chipset is rtl8125.  Google suggests that this should magically work with kernel 5.4 but I'm not seeing the device
[18:22] <hydrogen> do I need to enable something secret?
[18:22] <ChmEarl> hydrogen, *-modules-extra ?
[18:25] <hydrogen> modules-extra is installed
[18:25] <hydrogen> let me try a usb nic and a kernel update to see if it magically fixes anything
[18:29] <hydrogen> yay for usb-c dongles and computers with usb-c ports
[18:37] <hydrogen> yeah, that's a negative
[18:38] <hydrogen> realtek has the module available on the website but apparently you can't compile modules in ubuntu any more without additional crypto voodoo
[18:38] <hydrogen> ?
[18:40] <hydrogen> I really don't want to compile my own module either, as thats going to be a pain every update
[18:53] <hydrogen> okay, so I had to install the module from some random github url that I found through a google search that lead me to a wiki article for odroid on a device that uses the same NIC
[18:53] <hydrogen> linux: sponsored by google since 2002 :)
[18:54] <oerheks> one could write a DKMS too, that builds the module any kernel update
[18:57] <hydrogen> linux: sponsored by google and vim since 2002* :)
[18:59] <malwar3hun73r> I'm auto-connecting to an openvpn server on boot in Ubuntu 20.04. The connection works, but i'm noticing that DNS does not work unless I restart the openvpn@my.service
[18:59] <malwar3hun73r> any idea why that would be?
[19:16] <dfrey> Why is there no "repo" package in Ubuntu 20.04?  It existed up until Ubuntu 19.10.
[19:19] <sarnold> dfrey: part of the change from python2 to python3
[19:19] <sarnold> dfrey: you can find the delete messages for a package on the launchpad page https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/repo  -- click on "view full publishing history" in the upper right corner, then find the focal deleted line, and click the little triangle to show the message
[19:24] <dfrey> sarnold: I was guessing it had something to do with the python2 migration.  What's weird is that from looking at the source code for the 2.8.3 release, it seems that repo supports python 2.7 and 3.6+ (https://gerrit.googlesource.com/git-repo/+/refs/tags/v2.8/setup.py#60)
[19:25] <sarnold> dfrey: that'd explain why it came back with a much higher version number for groovy :)
[19:26] <sarnold> dfrey: quite a lot of packages weren't updated for py3 before focal, I udnerstand a lot of other packages met the same fate, I'm not sure they all came back
[19:27] <dfrey> sarnold: Thanks.  I think I understand now
[19:34] <nxfifteen> Anyone getting problems with dvd trays in 20.04? Mine closes as soon as its ejected. End up having to fight with the drive to get the disc out. Closest I can find is this bug, but it's over ten years old, not finding anything more recent or a solution - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/283316
[19:35] <SrPx> Hey, is it possible to keep 2 ubuntu machines 100% in sync, in real time? As in, I have two notebooks (one small and one big) and I'd like to be able to use both as if they were the same computer (i.e., just chose one and all files are synced)
[19:41] <alazy> I'm struggling to return a btrfs snapshot. I expect "# btrfs subvolume set-default 1296 && shutdown -r now" will have me boot into my system as it was when that snapshot was taken, but I reboot into my current (borked) system so there's something I've missed. What?
[19:58] <qqqhhh> Hello people can anyone help me with PC lockup problems in Ubuntu? Thanks.
[19:58] <sarnold> if you're running gnome, try disabling all the gnome extensions
[19:59] <qqqhhh> I am running Mate
[19:59] <qqqhhh> Ubuntu-mate
[19:59] <qqqhhh> I have a lot of information prepared, a posted it all on reddit, can i paste the link here?
[20:00] <qqqhhh> or better paste here?
[20:02] <sarnold> qqqhhh: the link to reddit is probably best
[20:02] <sarnold> qqqhhh: there's automated anti-abuse things that will kick, ban, etc, if you paste too much content too quickly
[20:03] <qqqhhh> here it is https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/comments/hne80o/linux_freezes_r5_3600_at_idle/ ,thank You very much
[20:06] <sarnold> oh wow that's crazy :/
[20:07] <oerheks> add yourself to this bugreport?
[20:07] <oerheks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1865293
[20:10] <qqqhhh> Thank You very much
[20:12] <oerheks> even on 20.04 i find issues, kernel 5.4 https://superuser.com/questions/1547977/amd-ryzen-5-3600-ubuntu-20-04-problems
[20:12] <sarnold> oerheks comes through again :D
[20:12] <oerheks> make sure you have the latest bios update!
[20:12] <qqqhhh> Yes i have the latest BIOS as written in the reddit post, 7C02v37
[20:20] <qqqhhh> I am thinking about RMA the CPU, in 25 years i have never RMA'd a CPU
[20:38] <tomreyn> qqqhhh: which is the latest kernel version you tried (you only wrote "updating os - before i had Ubuntu 16.04")?
[20:43] <qqqhhh> i used only the default kernel
[20:43] <oerheks> Ubuntu Mate 19.10 5.3.0-62-generic
[20:44] <tomreyn> ^ that's in the bug report oerheks had pointed to, yes. so it probably still happens with current kernels.
[20:44] <qqqhhh> on 19.04 was 5.3.0-23-generic
[20:45] <tomreyn> you could give 20.04 + !mainline a try, just for 'completeness'
[20:46] <tomreyn> the power supply idle control you had set to what?
[20:46] <qqqhhh> typical current idle
[20:47] <tomreyn> i'm a bit surprised they still have this option on current MSI BIOSes, I've got an X370 which has the lockup issue, too, they removed the option in later bioses
[20:47] <qqqhhh> i am on B450
[20:48] <tomreyn> 1st gen ryzen, though
[20:48] <tomreyn> what i do there is      @reboot /sbin/modprobe msr && /usr/sbin/wrmsr -a 0xC0010292 true
[20:49] <qqqhhh> tomreyn: that is the zenstates.py script , i tried it already ,no change
[20:49] <tomreyn> right, ok
[20:50] <qqqhhh> P0 - Enabled - FID = 90 - DID = 8 - VID = 48 - Ratio = 36.00 - vCore = 1.10000
[20:50] <qqqhhh> P1 - Enabled - FID = 8C - DID = A - VID = 58 - Ratio = 28.00 - vCore = 1.00000
[20:50] <qqqhhh> P2 - Enabled - FID = 84 - DID = C - VID = 68 - Ratio = 22.00 - vCore = 0.90000
[20:50] <qqqhhh> P3 - Disabled
[20:50] <qqqhhh> P4 - Disabled
[20:50] <qqqhhh> P5 - Disabled
[20:50] <qqqhhh> P6 - Disabled
[20:50] <qqqhhh> P7 - Disabled
[20:50] <qqqhhh> C6 State - Package - Disabled
[20:50] <tomreyn> !paste
[20:50] <tomreyn> you're silenced for about a minute now.
[20:52] <tomreyn> qqqhhh: so, what you pasted will have been cut off for us.
[20:52] <qqqhhh> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Dwg27k8MBX/
[20:53] <qqqhhh> maybe i will upgrade to 20.04 but also considering RMA'ing the CPU
[20:53] <psprint> Hi. Why vim isn't linked to libX11? Clipboard doesn't work… …
[20:53] <tomreyn> hmm, how did you produce this output? does zenstates.py do it?
[20:54] <rhoks> guys, why does inxi -F give me two names for the wifi adapter like so: "Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter"
[20:54] <qqqhhh> tomreyn: zenstates.py -l
[20:54] <rhoks> what other command can show me the adapter's name?
[20:55] <veryloud> Hi! I'm having an issue with an OVPN file that works perfectly on Windows using OpenVPN GUI, but on Linux, only works for local resources and not external resources. In the Gnome NetworkManager UI, ticking "only use this network for its resources" makes every external resource work, but no internal resource works.
[20:55] <veryloud> What options should I start looking at
[20:55] <qqqhhh> rhoks: because two vendors are selling the same hardware
[20:55] <rhoks> oh I sees.
[20:55] <qqqhhh> rhoks: sorry i made a mistake
[20:56] <rhoks> I just wanted to find the specs of the adapter online?
[20:56] <qqqhhh> rhoks: the reason is two versions of hardware have the same id and cannot be identified apart
[20:56] <rhoks> Is there any other command to show me what adapter I have?
[20:57] <qqqhhh> rhoks: i think that is the correct identification of your HW
[20:57] <tomreyn> qqqhhh: here's mine, if it matters: https://termbin.com/b31u - but i think RMA'ing is the right thig to do
[20:57] <qqqhhh> tomreyn: are you on R5 3600 ?
[20:58] <tomreyn> qqqhhh: no, 1st gen ryzen (as noted above), Ryzen 7 1800X
[20:59] <qqqhhh> tomreyn: sorry i made a mistake this is my current output of zenstates https://termbin.com/hy5w
[20:59] <rhoks> Sooo, I just checked the Qualcomm Atheors QCA9565 has average speeds of more than 100mbps, so how come it can't go past 50mbps when I'm downloading stuff
[21:00] <qqqhhh> rhoks: could be the router(AP)  or interference, uplink congestion or simply the server cannot give more
[21:00] <qqqhhh> rhoks: 100mbit is theoretical in ideal conditions and perfect signal
[21:01] <qqqhhh> rhoks: 50mbit is pretty good
[21:01] <rhoks> I see... Now I'm about to test it with a wired connection.
[21:02] <qqqhhh> rhoks: i get around 30mbit on my 2.4GHz in the same room as the AP
[21:02] <tomreyn> qqqhhh: ASRock X370 Taichi, BIOS P5.60 06/27/2019, RAM is 2x Kingston 9965669-019.A00G
[21:04] <qqqhhh> veryloud: can you give the output of "ip ro"  ? what is the destination network you are trying to connect to ?
[21:05] <rhoks> download speeds are pretty much the same with a wired connection but upload was at 100mbit qqqhhh
[21:05] <rhoks> could be the laptop is also too old maybe
[21:05] <qqqhhh> rhoks: antivirus can slow down any transfers if the CPU is slow
[21:06] <qqqhhh> rhoks: sorry i though you were on Win
[21:06] <rhoks> lolz
[21:06] <rhoks> NoPe not on this laptop I'm not
[21:07] <qqqhhh>  rhoks: i am in regular contact with Win users  and i like to bash on AV
[21:07] <rhoks> Speaking of which I need to choose the right AV for my newly built Gaming/Editing RiGG :D
[21:08] <qqqhhh> rhoks: i suggest none
[21:09] <rhoks> why so qqqhhh ?
[21:10] <qqqhhh> rhoks: if you know what you are doing then you don't need one
[21:12] <rhoks> True that. But I will still install one since its an 8 core sexy beast of a MaChiNE :D
[21:17] <qqqhhh> rhoks: sadly many games cannot utilize such power, running on 35fps on Arma 3 :)
[21:22] <grant_> I just modified a configuration file in /etc. Is there a way I can use the package manager to create a diff?
[21:24] <TJ-> grant_: that would depend on what package and what you altered
[21:25] <grant_> I made the assumption that the package manager installs files in /etc. I modified a file in /usr/share/actions/policykit, but I'm not sure what that belongs to
[21:25] <grant_> is that the purpose of apt-file?
[21:26] <TJ-> grant_: for installed packages, "dpkg -S path/to/file" will report the package name
[21:27] <grant_> mhmm, so it belongs to packagekit
[21:27] <grant_> the dirty way to do it would be to grab the file from launchpad I guess
[21:29] <TJ-> grant_: easier way: "apt-get download $package_name" ($package.deb file in current directory) then dpkg-deb -x $package.deb ." (. extracts it to the current directory) so you'd have, e.g, ./usr/share/actions/policykit/
[21:31] <TJ-> grant_: then you can do a "diff -u ./usr/share/actions/policykit/file /usr/share/actions/policykit/file"
[21:32] <grant_> mhmm, that works but seems I pay the price in a few (m/k)bs
[21:32] <grant_> TJ-: thank you, you've been very helpful
[21:33] <TJ-> grant_: you can also do "apt-get source $package_name" if you've the deb-src entries in APTs /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:33] <TJ-> grant_: and you'll have the source-code of the package
[21:33] <TJ-> grant_: ^^ that's a common way of generating a debdiff for providing a patch to a package
[21:34] <grant_> ok, great
[22:09] <edgars> yo!
[22:09] <qqqhhh> yello !
[22:09] <edgars> any ideas how can i install openssh-server with preseed?
[22:09] <qqqhhh> what is preseed?
[22:10] <edgars> well, that thing, when all install questions are prefilled :)
[22:12] <qqqhhh> i am reading the docs,maybe in the configuration ?
[22:12] <qqqhhh> preseed config
[22:27] <veryloud> qqqhhh: hi sorry for the delay, the result of `ip ro` is: https://gist.github.com/acerspyro/e913894ab7d28d93f224c2fee71d8023
[22:27] <veryloud> That's with "Use connection only for resources on its network
[22:28] <veryloud> "
[22:28]  * genii ponders the use of github as a pastebin
[22:28] <veryloud> better than pastebin.com :shrug:
[22:29] <veryloud> also that's gist, gists are half pastes, half random code snippets
[22:31] <edgars> qqqhhh: not so easy as expected
[22:38] <qqqhhh> veryloud: what subnet are you trying to connect to
[22:50] <pavlos> edgars: can you try, d-i pkgsel/include string openssh-server build-essential
[22:51] <pavlos> edgars: I read further, it does not work
[22:54] <pavlos> edgars: but the last post of this link offers a solution, https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2411842
[23:09] <bencc1> is there a simple way to sync a local directory on a remote server and keep it synced?
[23:10] <quadrathoch2> rsync with cron bencc1
[23:10] <bencc1> quadrathoch2: thanks. I mean in real time
[23:10] <bencc1> bytes I'll write on the local dir will be synced to the remote dir
[23:11] <sarnold> what do you want it to do if the machines can't communicate but each one makes changes to files?
[23:13] <bencc1> only one machine will make changes
[23:13] <bencc1> something like ceph or glusterfs will probably work but I'm looking for something simpler if possible
[23:24] <leftyfb> bencc1: dropbox
[23:25] <pavlos> bencc1: nfs?
[23:49] <edgars> pavlos i tried some solutions none of them worked
[23:52] <mcphail> bencc1: syncthing