[02:29] <kyle__> I don't suppose anyone here has had spinrite not launch on one of their servers, after it actually booted into freeods?  Tangentially on topic, because it's an ubuntu server ;)
[02:29] <kyle__> It just needs help
[02:31] <sarnold> spinrite? wow there's a name I haven't heard in ten years, give or take.. (in the sense of, "wow, there's aname I haven't heard of in ten years", at the time :)
[02:32] <kyle__> Yeah, some dumbass used a laptop drive when he got this r610 in his basement, because he was so excited to set it up, and put in an SSD a few weeks later.  All the data was moved over, just not the boot.
[02:32]  * kyle__ really hates that guy sometimes
[02:33] <sarnold> sounds like someone you ought not let near your computers :)
[02:33]  * sarnold nods
[02:33] <kyle__> Sometimes it feels that way.
[02:35] <kyle__> I guess I'll let it sit overnight and see if it (spinrite) starts up.
[02:35] <kyle__> Otherwise I know what I'm doing tomorrow after work :P
[02:38] <sarnold> btw what's the point of spinrite in 2020?
[02:40] <kyle__> It's a spinny drive that I put in there.  Also the bulk-storage drives in my NAS box are spinny, because that's still the best bang for the buck storage wise.
[02:40] <RoyK> ddrescue should do the same job
[02:40] <kyle__> Work only buys spinners reluctantly any more, and I'm almost at that point at home.
[02:40] <sarnold> but when you need a few dozen TB of space, they really are the cheapest way there :)
[02:40] <kyle__> Also, I really enjoy the security-now podcast, so it's kindof like giving the old guy a donation.
[02:41] <sarnold> but, like, what's the point of sipnrite? heh
[02:41] <sarnold> morning RoyK :)
[02:41] <kyle__> OK, really going to bed this time o7 night
[02:41] <sarnold> gnight kyle__
[03:06] <strixdio> I have pfsense running as a VM on ubuntu server, with a NIC passed through, but connected to the host over a bridge. host can ping guest. I have a laptop plugged into a port on the NIC, and for testing I have allowed all traffic in firewall rules. laptop cannot ping the ubuntu host. Might I be missing something? not sure if it's a pfsense issue,
[03:06] <strixdio> ubuntu issue, or user issue.
[03:07] <strixdio> originally I was thinking, maybe it has to do with ip_forward, but that didn't seem to do anything.
[03:11] <RoyK> sarnold: morning :)
[03:12] <RoyK> in-place fixing of drives isn't really my cup of tea
[03:19] <sarnold> I always thought of spinrite as a DOS FAT consistency thingy, so I'm surprised to hear of it again
[08:05] <lordievader> Good morning
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[14:17] <martin__> I have unattended-upgrades to install security updates automatically, when I got to work this morning one of our servers were shutdown. It was terminated at 04 which is the same time I run
[14:17] <martin__> my automatic updates on... can anyone explain what the heck happened? I looked in the logs and I did not see it actually installed anything at 04 so am wondering if someone was pending from aa previous upgrade.
[14:17] <martin__> something was pending*
[15:23] <RoyK> martin__: I beleive I've seen that happen once or twice, which is why I generally don't restart servers automatically, but rather schedule downtime for that to be done.
[15:50] <samba35> is seems kernel -4.15.0-109 problem since upgrade to to this kernel system in panic error and yesterday it was not booting at all
[15:51] <samba35> how do block kerenel -109 block for some days or block tilll i manaully update
[16:11] <samba35> i try to hold
[16:18] <samba35> what is latest stable version with 18.04 ?
[16:19] <samba35> can some one please confirm ?
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[17:22] <keithzg> Very baffled, I keep getting timeouts on file operations on a server but I can't seem to actually find anything throttling the io, or any errors that would indicate why suddenly things are failing :/
[17:24] <keithzg> The btrfs pool being used has user directories on it, so the big issue is email; Dovecot in particular seems to be having a lot of trouble (Postfix weirdly less so), the service won't even shut down although the log claims its been killed with signal 15.
[17:25] <keithzg> All started when I applied updates to this 18.04 install and rebooted two days ago.
[17:34] <keithzg> `kill -9`ing doesn't even seem to be able to remove the lingering dovecot processes . . . arghh
[17:51] <Ussat> Linux hc-vubuntutest 4.15.0-109-generic #110-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 23 02:39:32 UTC 2020 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:51] <Ussat> on 18.04
[17:51] <Ussat> No issues here
[17:53] <genii> keithzg: Maybe sudo lsof|grep dovecot shows it busy in the middle of file operations of some sort which can't be closed
[18:26] <keithzg> genii: Good point, I should have thought of that! And I did see some indications that that was the case, buried in the logs, with Dovecot complaining about `cannot append message to file /home/username/mailmirror: unable to lock for exclusive access: Resource temporarily unavailable`. Have since just rebooted the damn server, and since then it has worked fine, but the same sequence of events happened yesterday, so I bet I'll get another chance for such
[18:26] <keithzg> introspection tomorrow . . .
[18:27] <keithzg> Hard to meaningfully troubleshoot when everyone is calling and texting saying "everything is broken!", really quite distracting lol
[18:32] <genii> keithzg: Maybe keep us posted, seems an interesting issue
[18:35] <keithzg[m]> genii: Shall definitely do . . .
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[18:46] <coreycb> jamespage: regression testing passed on ussuri-proposed. I didn't promote any of your SRU packages though, will leave that to you.
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