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jrwrenwhat language is this? https://mt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Il-Paġna_prinċipali14:33
cmaloneyMaltese according to the language code14:34
jrwrenhttps://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2020/06/announcing-general-availability-kernel-live-patching-amazon-linux-2/  kinda great that it is free.15:53
jrwrenlast i checked canonical was charging for that feature for ubuntu15:54
jrwrenthis looks cool https://web.trango.io16:26
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Scary_GuyThere was an outage somewhere?19:52
Scary_GuySignal would be great if they'd fix the glitches.  Other than that it works fine and is my primary encrypted instant messaging solution.19:54
cmaloneyhttps://externals.io/message/11090720:10
cmaloney"We are committed to maintaining development and building of PHP on Windows for 7.2, 7.3 and 7.4 as long as they are officially supported. We are not, however, going to be supporting PHP for Windows in any capacity for version 8.0 and beyond."20:10
jrwrenthat is actually a little surprising given the push MSFT had for PHP on windows, but I guess that was 10yrs ago.20:18
cmaloneyHoestly I wonder how much of this will get pushed to WSL20:27
cmaloneysince it means less effort to get running20:27
jrwrenthat is exaclty what.20:27
jrwrenbut WSL isn't for production.20:27
jrwren10yrs ago they were touting PHP on IIS as "faster than PHP on Linux Apache" and for production use.20:28
jrwrenthey must have finally wised up that there isn't demand for that20:28
cmaloneyI know one of the folsk who comes to CHC is using Windows with C# for web stuff20:28
cmaloneyand it boggles my mind20:28
jrwrenASP.NET is great.20:30
jrwrenreally great.20:30
cmaloneyOutside of that whole Microsoft thing. ;)20:31
jrwrenopen source, runs on linux, it is really no diff than java or Go.20:37
jrwrenor Dart20:37
jrwrenor Swift20:37
jrwren'cept oracle is far more evil with java20:38
jrwrenactually, it isn't even microsoft thse days. it is owned by the dot net foundation. microsoft just happens to be hte largest contributor AFAIK20:38
cmaloneyHonestly I'm more likely to write C# than Java20:39
cmaloneyOracle can find a dumpster to burn in for all i care20:39
cmaloneyDart doesn't excite me and I don't have anything Apple so Swift is right out20:39
jrwrenwell, swift runs on linux now too.20:40
jrwrenand there are web frameworks.20:41
cmaloneyis there any reason to use Swift if you're not targeting Apple products?20:44
cmaloneyThat's kind of like getting RPL working on your Linux machine. Unless you're an HP graphing calculator it's not going to have the same effect.20:45
jrwrenyeah, no reason. it is a lot like using PHP on Windows :)20:48
jrwrenI mean... why use any langauge... familiarity? So if you already know swift, it sure would be nice to write webservers in it too.20:48
cmaloneyYeah20:48
cmaloneyI mean, that's why we have server-side JavaScript20:48
jrwrenSwift is a lot like C# from a language POV, but no IL no GC, so potentially even faster.20:49
cmaloneywhich is proof that we'll stick anything into a light socket20:49
jrwrenexactly, ugh, nodejs :)20:49

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