[00:12] <RonWhoCares> https://askubuntu.com/q/1257785/453336
[00:12] <RonWhoCares> (I posted my question on 'Ask Ubuntu')
[00:14] <sarnold> RonWhoCares: leave the EFI partition out of the mdraid
[00:15] <aaaaaa> sarnold: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
[00:15] <sarnold> aaaaaa: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!
[00:15] <aaaaaa> sarnold: not enough, should be louder
[00:17] <sarnold> RonWhoCares: comment #2 may be helpful https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1868553  -- and note the dpkg-reconfigure grub-efi-amd64 command in comment #4
[00:17] <sarnold> aaaaaa: AAAAAA!!
[00:17] <aaaaaa> sarnold: fine, thanks
[00:17] <sarnold> yw :)
[00:17] <aaaaaa> sarnold: https://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/AAAAAAAAA!
[00:18] <sarnold> aaaaaa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0LKpAro8Bk
[00:21] <RonWhoCares> sarnold: OK.  I am reading
[00:25] <RonWhoCares> sarnold: Am I correct then that I need to re-do the RAID (no longer creating the EFI partition)?
[00:26] <sarnold> RonWhoCares: yeah
[00:28] <RonWhoCares> OK
[01:30] <kiwi_banal> Is it a common problem (again) that the Ubuntu servers are unreachable for updates?
[01:30] <kiwi_banal> I have had this problem for the past few days (again).
[01:30] <mason> kiwi_banal: Not seeing that here.
[01:31] <sarnold> kiwi_banal: I don't think I've ever seen that; the more common problem is ISPs running proxies without telling customers, and the proxies failing
[01:31] <kiwi_banal> Hmmm, I've tried different mirrors, switched off ipv6, ... I am in Nepal at the moment
[01:32] <kiwi_banal> ... and they may be having 'issues' with India (bloody politics)
[01:33] <kiwi_banal> I've had it before. `sudo apt update` would fail to reach the servers with a 101 error.
[01:33] <sarnold> kiwi_banal: nepal telecom runs two mirrors https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[01:35] <kiwi_banal> Yeah, I've tried both ntc.net.np and ubuntu.ntc.net.np but still no update success.
[01:39] <kiwi_banal> Thanks @sarnold and @mason. I might just try patience...
[01:39] <mason> kiwi_banal: Hope it resolves for you presently.
[01:39] <sarnold> kiwi_banal: oh :( well, you could try the canonical instances, or pick mirrors from another nearby place?
[01:40] <sarnold> kiwi_banal: yandex? docker.ru?
[01:42] <kiwi_banal> I've tried a few different mirrors but am still getting the 101 error.
[01:43] <kiwi_banal> I'm not familiar with yandex.
[01:45] <sarnold> they're just a big internet company in russia
[01:45] <kiwi_banal> ahh, right. I found the yandex browser on search.
[01:46] <kiwi_banal> I'll keep looking but this problem has silently resolved itself in the past.
[01:47] <sarnold> it might be a problem on the mirror your using, but it feels more likely to be an error of the web proxies that your ISP is probably using
[01:47] <sarnold> good luck kiwi_banal :)
[01:47] <kiwi_banal> Cheers :)
[03:20] <RonWhoCares> sarnold: Are you still on?
[03:20] <sarnold> RonWhoCares: yeah
[03:21] <RonWhoCares> sarnold: I've decided to do a fresh install.  The new RAID1 has been created.
[03:21] <sarnold> RonWhoCares: ha! certainly it's quick and easy... I hope moving your data over isn't too bad
[03:22] <RonWhoCares> sarnold: I don't have anything really to loose.  The installation I did a week ago was a test.  This is a new computer I'm commission for my home recording studio
[03:22] <sarnold> RonWhoCares: oh! :D very nice
[03:22] <RonWhoCares> I should add this is for self employment.  I am not asking you to help me in the context of some big corporation trying to get free advice
[03:23] <RonWhoCares> In very simple terms I have a physical disability.  I'm now trying to make a go of self employment focusing on what I can do and not what I can't.
[03:23] <RonWhoCares> sarnold: So my question now is:  Do I need to designate an EFI boot partition during the new installation?
[03:24] <RonWhoCares> I have the ability to select the RAID I just created ( /dev/md127 or something like that)
[03:24] <sarnold> RonWhoCares: I haven't actually run through the desktop installer on an EFI system; I expected it to just create one automatically if the system booted to UEFI to run the installer
[03:25] <RonWhoCares> sarnold: The installer is cautioning that if I don't create an EFI partition it is to my own peril
[03:25] <RonWhoCares> But if I do this I'm going to wreck the RAID
[03:25] <sarnold> aha, very handy check :)
[03:26] <sarnold> RonWhoCares: so, that sounds a bit like a "manual partitioning" route? create a new partition on each disk, 1g or so, at the start, the rest to another partition, and select raid on just the big partitions..
[03:27] <RonWhoCares> sarnold: This runs head long into the guidance of answer #2 you linked earlier.
[03:28] <sarnold> RonWhoCares: hmm, does it? the idea is you'd wind up with two EFI partitions, one on each disk, no raid on them; and then one large partition on each disk, that you would raid together
[03:29] <RonWhoCares> OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[03:29] <RonWhoCares> That means I need to re-do the RAID :p
[03:29] <RonWhoCares> I specified the whole disk
[03:29] <RonWhoCares> Unless I edit the partition
[03:30] <RonWhoCares> sarnold: I have an objective question:
[03:30] <RonWhoCares> sarnold: I  am sure I saw in the BIOS that I had the option to use EFI or not
[03:30] <sarnold> use EFI
[03:31] <sarnold> the "legacy" or "csm" mode made sense a decade back (give or take) but support for EFI is a lot better these days, and probably better than the "legacy" mode offered by the system
[03:32] <RonWhoCares> sarnold: What you've said makes sense to me
[03:32] <RonWhoCares> It seems this comes down to the same idea as the single board computers I've purchased as my servers
[03:33] <RonWhoCares> sarnold: I either go the route of using an SD card for the boot partition and then use the SSD's for booting and recording
[03:33] <sarnold> RonWhoCares: I
[03:34] <RonWhoCares> sarnold: Or the boot partition is on the SSD's themselves
[03:34] <sarnold> RonWhoCares: I've used SD cards a few times on arm systems and all have died after only a few months -- I wouldn't want to make an sd card do anything important
[03:34] <sarnold> even though I had gone to some effort to try to reduce the amount of write workload on those systems
[03:35] <RonWhoCares> sarnold: I don't know what you'll think of my next comment
[03:35] <RonWhoCares> I do have some mSATA's here I could use as a boot partition through a USB3.0 port
[03:36] <RonWhoCares> I know SD  card's fail when they are wrote to
[03:37] <sarnold> RonWhoCares: hehe, yeah, I've never tried booting to usb3, it might even work out okay, but I strongly prefer my systems to have as few 'moving parts' as possible..
[03:37] <sarnold> RonWhoCares: if the usb 3.0 is a header *inside* the machine, maybe that'd be okay
[03:37] <sarnold> but I'd rather boot to drives
[03:38] <RonWhoCares> sarnold: Is EFI the "in thing"
[03:38] <sarnold> RonWhoCares: yeah, I bet you'd have trouble finding a new BIOS-only computer these days
[03:39] <RonWhoCares> I purchased really good SSD hard drives
[03:39] <RonWhoCares> There is a real possibility of them outliving the computer
[03:40] <RonWhoCares> I need to be able to transplant them
[03:40] <RonWhoCares> I get what you are saying about "moving parts"
[03:52] <RonWhoCares> sarnold: Thank you
[03:53] <sarnold> RonWhoCares: you're welcome, have fun :)
[03:53] <sarnold> RonWhoCares: I'm about to head off to make dinner, but chances are good someone else will be around if you've got more questions
[03:53] <RonWhoCares> sarnold: I am.  The part I'm really looking forward to is authoring books themed around living with a physical disability, making audio versions of these and them really making an impact for people who are struggling.
[03:55] <sarnold> RonWhoCares: oh that sounds cool -- have you seen LaTeX yet? it's .. a bit old, a bit creaky in some ways, but the output is *beautiful*, and imho worth the effort of learning latex
[03:56] <sarnold> RonWhoCares: I'm sure latex helped me through college, professors always said they liked reading my papers :) hehe
[03:56] <RonWhoCares> :)
[03:56] <bparker> lol latex
[03:56] <sarnold> that learning curve is a bit steep, though. heh.
[03:56] <RonWhoCares> sarnold: I have been using Audacity for audio
[03:57] <sarnold> RonWhoCares: oh nice, I hear good things about that
[03:57] <RonWhoCares> sarnold: https://i.paste.pics/e30e35cb3d54ebbe1d6c7f4b14ab9da1.png
[03:57] <sarnold> ooooh nice rig :)
[06:15] <ingenthr> anyone aware of an issue or config problem that would cause kvm and bhyve VMs to be able to ICMP echo, but not build a TCP connection?  I updated to 2020-07-01 recently (and something a couple weeks earlier before that) and have had the same problem with both.  the vm's JSON is at https://gist.github.com/ingenthr/5d4fba97392dec87a504ffb600492609
[06:55] <amosbird> Hello, how can I let slock to show a custom jpeg instead of some transparent color?
[07:10] <MJCD> hey all
[07:11] <MJCD> my ubuntu 20.xx install is saying it's not able to use the virtualbox guest services etc
[07:11] <MJCD> I have already installed the guest additions but it says they're "not working"
[07:11] <MJCD> doesn't allow me to even try and select them in software & updates
[07:13] <MJCD> I asked in #vbox the other day and they referred me here
[07:13] <MJCD> as I say everything is working, but it's a bit slower than normal etc
[07:15] <MJCD> also I'm not sure if I did something wrong, I set set it to the normal update level
[07:15] <MJCD> but it's updating ("Updates are ready") every like... 3 minutes lol
[08:21] <hacker417_> hey i noticed the default settings are to connect to wifi using wep, which explained why ic ouldn't connect to my wifi
[08:22] <hacker417_> now im looking for why i still can't connect to my wifi
[09:59] <mra90> my ubuntu doesn't mount 500gb external disk correctlyt
[09:59] <mra90> it is visable but when I try to access it I get error message saying "operation already pending" (only once, then no message just doesn't get there)
[10:01] <mra90> when I try to mount it manual I get error ntfs-3g-mount fuse device is missing. try "modprobe fuse" isntead
[10:02] <mra90> but after "modprobe fuse" I get another issue "FATAL Module fuse not found in directory /lib/modules/5.8..."
[10:05] <EriC^^> mra90: try "sudo apt-get install fuse gvfs-fuse"
[10:05] <mra90> EriC^^, I already have it
[10:07] <EriC^^> mra90: what's the exact line in "fatal module fuse...."
[10:07] <jhan100> Hi folks, needing a little help with zfs. Basically I have 2 nvmes one with Ubuntu/ZFS(/dev/nvme0n1 ) and a second one(/dev/nvme1n1) where I've installed Windows. Any idea how to recreate my grub list from the ZFS ?
[10:08] <pjp> Hi, where may I see the build logs for Ubuntu packages?
[10:12] <EriC^^> jhan100: shouldnt grub add the entries automatically?
[10:12] <EriC^^> jhan100: did you try sudo update-grub ?
[10:13] <jhan100> EriC^^ That was supposed to be but didnt...
[10:13] <mra90> EriC^^, as I said it can not find a module fuse
[10:13] <mra90> "modprobe fuse" fails
[10:14] <SNGERG> hey guys
[10:14] <EriC^^> mra90: and as i said 'exact line' please
[10:14] <jhan100> Generating grub configuration file ...grub-probe: error: unknown filesystem. EriC^^
[10:14] <EriC^^> jhan100: can you pastebin 'sudo parted -ls' output?
[10:14] <jhan100> Probably because of ZFS pool as it's taking full /
[10:15] <jhan100> https://pastebin.com/ShWLSvSD
[10:16] <EriC^^> jhan100: in nvme1n1 the 'esp' marked partition is ntfs, it should be fat32 for uefi
[10:17] <EriC^^> jhan100: actually, i misread the size, it's 418gb, not sure why it's marked as esp though
[10:18] <jhan100> EriC^^ nvme1n1 is not a big deal right now.. It's a new partition that I've created just to save data from my Ubuntu Users Home..
[10:19] <jhan100> but everything is already backedup... So if i need to destroy nvme1n1 it's not a problem
[10:21] <mra90> EriC^^, "modprobe: FATAL" Module fuse not found in directory /lib/modules/5.8.0-rc1+
[10:21] <EriC^^> jhan100: ok, type "(ls -l /boot; df /boot; sudo update-grub) | nc termbin.com 9999"  and paste the link it gives you here
[10:21] <mra90> now what?
[10:24] <motz> hi, my internet connection is very slow. I guess it's something wrong in my system. If I past you the last lines of my syslog, could help me to find out the problem?
[10:25] <jhan100> EriC^^ https://pastebin.com/raw/PB2kk5HR
[10:27] <EriC^^> jhan100: it's mentioning 2 kernels for ubuntu it added
[10:27] <EriC^^> jhan100: it should have a grub menu, if you want pastebin 'cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg' and we can take a look at the menu there
[10:28] <jhan100> sure
[10:28] <mra90> I found the module in some other folder
[10:28] <mra90> copied it but this error messagew is the same
[10:28] <mra90> what a shit
[10:29] <jhan100> EriC^^ https://pastebin.com/raw/C5rn24Us
[10:31] <EriC^^> jhan100: looks good
[10:31] <jhan100> Yep.
[10:32] <jhan100> The menu it's creating, Can see windows and everything... probably windows efi messed the Ubuntu's one.
[10:36] <jhan100> EriC^^ As I am already have the backup, I am really thinking in get everything back to Old Boot (MBR) and reinstall everything, but to be honest that's painfull.. I was trying to overcome that and use only Linux (grub ) and not the Bios Boot Loader
[10:41] <EriC^^> jhan100: right now ubuntu is not booting in uefi mode?
[10:41] <EriC^^> jhan100: if you hold shift when you turn the pc on, do you get a grub menu?
[10:42] <jhan100> Basically it boots ( I am using it ). Switch in the BIOS, it boots, shows me grubs menu and I can select it.. it works EriC^^ but I can not change it.
[10:43] <EriC^^> jhan100: you mean that you have to press a button each time you boot to get ubuntu menu
[10:43] <EriC^^> jhan100: ok, type 'sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999'
[10:44] <jhan100> https://termbin.com/inzvEriC^^
[10:44] <jhan100> https://termbin.com/inzv
[10:47] <EriC^^> jhan100: right now when you boot the pc, i didnt understand exactly what is going on, you have to enter the bios and do what so it works?
[10:48] <jhan100> The bios is just to set the boot order, I mean, my bios can select what is the driver that will be booting ..  EriC^^
[10:48] <EriC^^> jhan100: is the bios set to uefi mode only, with csm legacy disabled?
[10:49] <jhan100> Yep, its disabled and security also...but its booting in UEFI
[10:49] <jhan100> EriC^^
[10:55] <EriC^^> jhan100: ok, one question is this ubuntu or debian?
[10:56] <jhan100> Ubuntu....  cat /etc/issueUbuntu 20.04 LTS \n \l
[10:56] <jhan100> EriC^^
[10:58] <EriC^^> jhan100: ok, im trying to understand how you're booting currently cause sometimes the uefi list in the bios can be altered from there, other times the bios is stubborn and you have to manually choose ubuntu using the run time boot options menu, in that case we can do a workaround so the bios boots ubuntu thinking it's windows
[10:58] <EriC^^> so how exactly are you getting it to boot right now, so to know what's a good approach to the matter
[11:02] <jhan100> @Eric Basically in the BIOS I can see those three you saw in efibootmgr 's outputs. Rigtht now in fact, it boots debian (but that is just Grubs console), so I press exit; and then it appears Ubuntu's grub menulist..So, it loads ubuntu.
[11:02] <jhan100> @Eric
[11:02] <jhan100>  makes sense now ?
[11:03] <EriC^^> jhan100: ok, is this list in the actual bios (the main one with many menus etc) or is it just a screen that pops up when you start the pc and press a certain key
[11:04] <EriC^^> jhan100: there's the run time boot menu (it lets you choose an entry for that single boot) and there's the main uefi list in the bios (for some pc's), which is it?
[11:04] <jhan100> the main one with many menus etc, I can see three, windows ubuntu and debian
[11:04] <EriC^^> i see
[11:04] <EriC^^> jhan100: ok, you should be able to get ubuntu to the top of the list, so it tries to boot that first
[11:04] <EriC^^> jhan100: in some bios, they dont allow you to modify the list until you set an administrator password for the bios, acer does that and others might too
[11:05] <jhan100> Yes... that works... If I just press "f7" while booting the machine I can select that also.. EriC^^
[11:06] <jhan100> What I am afraid of, also, is that I will never be able to upgrade my kernel since I can not rewrite grub to MBR...
[11:34] <Rob_Jones> is there a way with the ssh command to define the location of your public key say for example its on a flash drive E:/
[11:35] <jhan100> EriC^^ Thank you man... I'll keep with the approach of pressing by "F7"  by now! Regards!
[11:40] <quadrathoch2> Rob_Jones -i
[11:40] <Rob_Jones> cheers quadrathoch2
[11:43] <EriC^^> jhan100: we could try to switch the files real quick to trick the bios into booting it
[11:44] <jhan100> Well .. Its up to you, just give me the path ..
[11:44] <EriC^^> jhan100: ok, type please "ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:45] <jhan100> https://termbin.com/3uz7​​​​​​​ EriC^^
[11:45] <jhan100> yep, its empty
[11:46] <EriC^^> jhan100: hmm, type "df -h /boot/efi" and paste here
[11:46] <EriC^^> i want to see if it's mounted
[11:46] <jhan100> rpool/ROOT/ubuntu_jq50s0  166G  9,5G  156G   6% /
[11:47] <EriC^^> jhan100: what about 'cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999'
[11:47] <jhan100> EriC^^  https://termbin.com/cam4
[11:48] <EriC^^> jhan100: hmm its in fstab but not mounted
[11:48] <EriC^^> jhan100: try 'sudo mount /boot/efi'
[11:48] <jhan100> https://termbin.com/mwkh
[11:49] <jhan100> Ok mounted
[11:49] <EriC^^> jhan100: try "ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:49] <jhan100> https://termbin.com/3la5
[11:51] <EriC^^> jhan100: ok, type "sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi{,.backup}"
[11:52] <jhan100> done
[11:52] <EriC^^> we're backing up the windows efi file, just so you know what we're doing
[11:52] <EriC^^> jhan100: type 'sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi'
[11:53] <EriC^^> now we're copying the ubuntu grub efi file and renaming it so the bios boots it instead of the windows one
[11:53] <jhan100> ok
[11:53] <EriC^^> jhan100: ok try rebooting and see what happens
[11:53] <jhan100> Will do ... brb
[11:56] <jhan100> EriC^^ selected windows and that booted ... cool
[11:57] <jhan100> So now.. I can try to update grub ?
[11:59] <jhan100> Still not updating grub :\
[11:59] <EriC^^> jhan100: did you have to press f7?
[12:00] <jhan100> well Yes... to select windows
[12:00] <EriC^^> odd, what happened when you just let it boot without f7
[12:00] <jhan100> let me see.. proabably wil boot normally ...
[12:02] <jhan100> EriC^^ same... no issues booting on debian(typing exit;) and then ubuntu
[12:03] <EriC^^> jhan100: oh ok, type 'sudo efibootmgr -o 0002,0000,0003'
[12:03] <jhan100> BootCurrent: 0002Timeout: 1 secondsBootOrder: 0002,0000,0003Boot0000* Windows Boot ManagerBoot0002* ubuntuBoot0003* debian
[12:04] <EriC^^> jhan100: ok, try rebooting now
[12:08] <nbusrone> On 18.04 , does anyone know is it possible to customize animation like compiz ? I wanted to remove the minimize after image square black line .
[12:08] <jhan100> EriC^^ the command didn't take effect, so I changed in the BIOS to select ubuntu's partition..
[12:10] <nbusrone> You all should know when booting the live cd , the minimize without animation square black line box is visible.
[12:11] <EriC^^> jhan100: ah ok, that's good
[12:11] <nbusrone> How do I remove it ? since compiz not supported
[12:11] <jhan100> grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi
[12:11] <jhan100> Installing for x86_64-efi platform.grub-install: error: unknown filesystem.
[12:11] <jhan100> EriC^^ nothing.. yet... Tryed to mount again and reinstall but no success weird.
[12:21] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:23] <TJ-> jhan100: use "grub-install --verbose ..."
[12:26] <jhan100> https://termbin.com/y5h7
[12:35] <qct899237> hello
[12:37] <nbusrone> Anyone can explain how Ubuntu kernal set brightness or backlight if there is a  dedicated graphic card ?
[12:38] <nbusrone> *kernel .How to set brightness ?
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: brightness is related to your computer model/brand and acpi, what is the problem exactly that occurs?
[12:41] <akem> I think it's not related to the graphic card, but to the screen instead.
[12:42] <tatertots> laptop screen brightness can be controlled independently of any operating system that may or may NOT be installed
[12:44] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : I am not sure whether it's a bug but no matter what brightness on nvidia x server setting  , it'll reset to default on after logout or screen turn back on.
[12:46] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje : It had been 6 years since 14.04 until now and it does not fix and nvidia forum it was ubuntu kernel issue. https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/screen-brightness-resets-to-max-after-reboot-linux/80144
[12:46] <nbusrone> I am having the same issue now
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: ddi you create a bug in these 6 years?
[12:48] <quadrathoch2> at least there is one for 19.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-settings/+bug/1840592
[12:50] <nbusrone> quadrathoch2 : it happen since 14.04 which I had been facing , but i set the monitor to my desire brightness but in 18.04 the problem is still here.
[12:50] <ELFrederich> I can't get VLC to open any files from an NFS mount
[12:50] <ELFrederich> on either the snap or apt installation
[12:52] <quadrathoch2> nbusrone I can only find the one for 19.04, so if it happened before, you should have written a bugreport. maybe you could chime in to get it fixed faster
[12:54] <nbusrone> quadrathoch2 : how to make a bug report ?
[12:55] <quadrathoch2> nbusrone just create one, and probably chime in on the one I posted
[12:56] <quadrathoch2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-settings/+bug/1840592 as this one already exist. try to give them as much explanation as possible, + maybe all the fixes you already tried
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> nbusrone: ubuntu-bug package-name
[12:58] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje :  thanks :)
[13:01] <nbusrone> lotuspsychje :  btw , I remember you help me to test a setting on gnome-flashback on clock and time , just some updates , I am about to show even Year at dconfig  and the location is /com/canonical/indicator/datetime/show-day
[13:34] <mra90> I have a problem trying to do "modprobe fuse"
[13:40] <mra90> this is the error message "modprobe: FATAL: Module fuse not found in directory /lib/modules/5.8.0-rc1+"
[13:57] <mra90> I have found that module in some other directory copied it to the one modprobe is searching but it still fails ;/
[13:57] <mra90> any idea?
[14:01] <deltreey> so I was really excited when I got my dell developer rig preinstalled with ubuntu 20.04.  I have, for years, been using the d3100 docking station with both windows and linux and I knew I had to install the displaylink driver to get my monitors to work...No dice.  My monitors connect but I get like 1FPS out of them.  I've tried most of the steps here: https://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/topics/103927-troubleshooting even
[14:01] <deltreey> https://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/1843660 so I don't know what to do.  I'm using a dell docking station with a dell laptop that is designed to run ubuntu and I'm completely stumped.  Maybe someone else here has encountered this and fixed it?
[14:01] <deltreey> one of these btw: https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/laptops/new-13/spd/xps-13-9300-laptop
[14:03] <deltreey> ooo, maybe there's hope: https://github.com/DisplayLink/evdi/issues/181
[14:03] <deltreey> how do I downgrade xserver?
[14:16] <deltreey> enabled the laptop display and now it's fine....what a weird bug
[14:32] <jonfen> I am running Ubuntu 20.04, i3vm, and the slack snap -- but I get this error when I try to open slack: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2g7f9zKSkM/
[14:34] <ioria> jonfen, https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/slack-4-7-0-sefgault-ubuntu-18-04/18708/9
[14:35] <Alexthek1d> hello
[14:36] <Alexthek1d> is there a list that shows all ubuntu versions and the installed python version?
[14:36] <jonfen> ioria: thank you
[14:37] <ioria> jonfen, no prob
[14:37] <ioria> Alexthek1d, rmadison python , if i got you right
[14:38] <Alexthek1d> ?
[14:38] <ioria> Alexthek1d, what yo uneed exactly ?
[14:38] <Alexthek1d> like this: ubuntu 18.04.4 -> python 3.7.3 ... ubuntu 16.06.6 -> python 3.5.3
[14:38] <Alexthek1d> and so on
[14:38] <Alexthek1d> all list of all versions
[14:39] <ioria> Alexthek1d, yes, run 'rmadison python' or 'rmadison python3'
[14:39] <Alexthek1d> ah okay
[14:39] <Alexthek1d> thanks
[14:40] <xbskid> Hello! Right now, I've got a VM running Ubuntu 20.04, and I'm using netplan for network configuration. I have specified two DNS servers, the first being my internal and the second being my gateway. Unfortunately, whenever I reboot my internal DNS server, resolved likes to mark it as offline and switch solely to the gateway, which results in it never switching back to my internal DNS server. Is there a way to get resolved to keep
[14:40] <xbskid> retrying DNS servers it marks as offline? Or do I need to do something more drastic, like only supplying that VM with the IP for my internal DNS, so it has nothing to round-robin to?
[14:41] <RonWhoCares> sarnold: Morning
[14:46] <g3poandlsl> I am trying to automatically unlock a root LUKS partition on 20.04 during boot time with clevis and tang. I have successfully bound the LUKS partition with the tang server and rebuilt initramfs with update-initramfs. However, the LUKS partition still does not automatically unlock during boot time. What am I missing?
[14:51] <mra90> I have a problem trying to do "modprobe fuse"
[14:51] <mra90> this is the error message "modprobe: FATAL: Module fuse not found in directory /lib/modules/5.8.0-rc1+"
[14:51] <mason> mra90: find /lib/modules | grep fuse
[14:52] <mra90> mason, I have done that already
[14:52] <mra90> and cp to that lib mod probe is searching
[14:52] <mra90> but it did not help
[14:52] <EriC^^> i have no fuse.ko in my pc
[14:52] <EriC^^> i have this though, not sure if it's related /lib/modules/4.4.0-154-generic/kernel/fs/fuse/cuse.ko
[14:53] <mason> mra90: Just copying a module in isn't sufficient. You also need to run depmod against the proper kernel version.
[14:53] <mra90> EriC^^, same on my side
[14:53] <mra90> mason, how to do this?
[14:53] <mason> mra90: sudo depmod 4.4.0-154-generic
[14:54] <EriC^^> mra90: this going to sound silly, but it says online you need to reboot possibly
[14:54] <mason> mra90: It's worth questioning why you need to copy in a module by hand, though. That probably indicates a procedural error of some sort.
[14:54] <leftyfb> mra90: why are you messing with 5.8.0-rc1+ ?
[14:54] <mason> EriC^^: Reboot won't invoke depmod.
[14:54] <EriC^^> mra90: try doing this 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo reboot'
[14:55] <leftyfb> mra90: if you only concern yourself with supported kernels (5.8.0-rc1+ isn't one of them) then you won't have this issue
[14:55] <mason> EriC^^: That also won't necessarily invoke depmod.
[14:55] <mra90> leftyfb, I used this kernel for my dev work
[14:55] <EriC^^> mason: care to elaborate on 2nd answer here? https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/363583/cant-mount-ntfs-on-arch-linux/364627
[14:56] <mason> EriC^^: What's it say?
[14:56] <leftyfb> mra90: I can almost guarantee you that the unsupported kernel is the issue
[14:56] <EriC^^> "Your issue is that you haven't rebooted since upgrading your kernel, so you cannot load any of the kernel modules you require."
[14:56] <mason> Oh, that's only vaguely related. Yes, you can't load a module for a different kernel version.
[14:56] <mra90> EriC^^, simply NO
[14:56] <mra90> I have rebooted many times actually
[14:57] <mra90> mason, so how to fix this modprobe fuse error
[14:57] <mason> mra90: If it says "not found" then run the command I gave you.
[14:57] <mra90> do you mean "sudo depmod 4.4.0-154-generic"?
[14:58] <mason> That's the only one.
[14:58] <mra90> how did you come up with "4.4.0-154-generic"?
[14:59] <mra90> I don't have such
[14:59] <RonWhoCares> I am needing help with a "grub-install" syntax.  The efi partition is /dev/sdd1 .  The Ubuntu installation is on /dev/md127 .  Could someone tell me the correct syntax for grub-install ?
[15:00] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: sudo grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi && sudo update-grub
[15:00] <tespi> you'll need to mount /dev/sdd1 to /boot/efi first
[15:00] <mason> mra90: Oh, I read EriC^^'s line as yours. Please tell us what the right directory is in /lib/modules, or simply use that directory name and run depmod against it.
[15:01] <mra90> mason, ok but what do you mean by "right directory"?
[15:01] <RonWhoCares> OK
[15:01] <EriC^^> mra90: the rc kernel
[15:01] <mason> mra90: Please put "ls /lib/modules" up at bpaste.net or similar.
[15:01] <mason> mra90: Your modules live in there, one directory per installed kernel.
[15:02] <mason> mra90: You say "depmod foo" as root where "foo" is the correct directory name.
[15:02] <EriC^^> Robert_Zenz: the efi dir should be mounted already, but sudo mount /boot/efi    won't harm
[15:02] <EriC^^> Robert_Zenz: ah nevermind, you're doing this from a chroot yeah? you have to mount it somewhere and use that dir in the command, as tespi suggested
[15:03] <EriC^^> i mean *chroot = live usb, not chroot
[15:03] <mra90> mason, one min, btw after apt-get dist-upgrade which EriC^^ recommeneded my OS is fuc** up
[15:03] <mra90> screen size is 200% no network no audio devices, ...
[15:04] <EriC^^> mra90: that's a standard update/maintenance line, your system is f... up not cause of that
[15:04] <mra90> can I revert it?
[15:04] <EriC^^> lol and never upgrade?
[15:04] <EriC^^> negative IQ chat here happening
[15:05] <mra90> because without network its hard for me to pastebin the output
[15:05] <mra90> so I wanted temporraly get back
[15:05] <EriC^^> mra90: boot a live usb and chroot
[15:05] <leftyfb> mra90: your driver issues (screen network, audio) is more than likely caused by having no modules loaded for that rc kernel you're running.
[15:05] <mra90> ok I managed to do it by kernel *reinstall*
[15:06] <leftyfb> mra90: boot into a supported kernel and you shouldn't have any issues
[15:06] <mason> Reinstall is a bit heavy-handed but will work, yes.
[15:07] <mra90> mason, this is my /lib/modules/ output https://termbin.com/qqpa
[15:07] <mason> mra90: A good rule of thumb, don't deviate from the defaults unless you can fix anything that is broken or breaks in the non-default set-up.
[15:08] <mra90> thats utopia
[15:08] <mason> It's what I do.
[15:09] <mra90> so i have listed directories
[15:09] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: I received an error.  I put more details here:   https://pastebin.com/xzncPFMP
[15:09] <mra90> should I do depmod 5.8.0-rc1+ now?
[15:09] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: Do you have a minute to look?
[15:09] <mason> mra90: Sure, so valid commands would include "depmod 5.3.0-28-generic" or "depmod 5.8.0-rc1+
[15:09] <mason> or similar, but if you reinstalled the kernel, you shouldn't have to do that again.
[15:10] <leftyfb> mra90: do you have the modules package installed for that rc kernel?
[15:10] <mra90> mason, I did it and then tried modprobe fuse again
[15:10] <mra90> no luck
[15:10] <mason> mra90: I'm guessing, since you say you copied it in, that it's for another kernel, and won't work with that one. Just a guess.
[15:11] <oerheks> why v5.8-rc1 and not v5.8-rc4 ????
[15:11] <oerheks> grinn
[15:11] <mra90> also find /lib/modules | grep fuse doesn't return fuse.ko
[15:11] <mra90> leftyfb, I may have missed that part
[15:11] <mra90> how should I do it correctly?
[15:11] <leftyfb> mra90: I thought "this is what I do"
[15:12] <mra90> mason, the point is I need fuse.ko file right?
[15:12] <mason> mra90: This is newer, but: https://bpa.st/T43Q
[15:12] <leftyfb> mra90: also, are you sure you need a kernel module specifically called "fuse"? If so, for what exactly? There's no module called "fuse" loaded in standard installs of ubuntu
[15:12] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: checking..
[15:12] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: Thanks
[15:12] <mason> mra90: Pretty sure you want cuse.ko anyway.
[15:13] <mason> https://bryanpendleton.blogspot.com/2011/02/fuse-cuse-and-uio.html
[15:13] <mason> mra90: Sorry I missed that at the start.
[15:14] <TJ-> Has anyone noticed on 20.04 (v5.4) the kernel loses significant time (days) and therefore the dmesg timestamps are way out, whereas the hardware clock, and the system time, are accurate?
[15:14] <leftyfb> mra90: so you're trying to follow a random article from 9 years ago?
[15:14] <mra90> leftyfb, if you haven;t noticed mason pasted it not me
[15:14] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: can you set up a chroot? e.g mount the rootfs at /mnt, then type "for i in /dev /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -R $i /mnt$i; done' then type "sudo chroot /mnt" then "mount -a" then from there just run "grub-install && update-grub" it should work
[15:14] <mason> TJ-: Not here. Clocks across several systems are locked right in. Are you running ntpd?
[15:14] <TJ-> mra90: fuse module is built-in
[15:14] <leftyfb> mra90: oh sorry, I didn't notice hat.
[15:15] <mra90> TJ- so why it fails for me?
[15:15] <mason> leftyfb: I was *offering* a random article from nine years ago. :P
[15:15] <TJ-> mason: it's kernel only, possibly due to suspend/resume cycles
[15:15] <mason> mra90: If it's built in, you can't load it.
[15:15] <leftyfb> mra90: what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[15:15] <TJ-> mra90: I haven't been following along; I was purely letitng folks know the fuse module is built-in
[15:16] <mra90> TJ-, okay good point
[15:16] <mra90> leftyfb, the problem is I can not mount external (500gb) hard drive
[15:16] <mra90> sorry not a hard driver usb flash rather
[15:16] <leftyfb> mra90: you really should lead with that
[15:16] <TJ-> mra90: "grep FUSE /boot/config-$(uname -r)"
[15:16] <mra90> smaller usb pendrives are fine
[15:17] <TJ-> mra90: that may be due to needing to load a USB mass storage kernel module, such as 'uas'
[15:17] <mra90> TJ-, config fuse is not seet
[15:17] <leftyfb> mra90: you have no kernel modules properly installed for your rc(unsupported) kernel
[15:18] <mra90> leftyfb, how to correct that?
[15:18] <leftyfb> mra90: also, rc(unsupported) the kernel you have installed isn't built the same way the supported kernels are
[15:18] <TJ-> mra90: what kernel version? I see "CONFIG_FUSE_FS=y"
[15:18] <mason> mra90: Run a supported kernel. That is, FWIW, the only kind supported here.
[15:19] <mra90> mason, how to generate config for such a kernel?
[15:19] <leftyfb> mra90: mra90 sudo apt install linux-modules-$(uname -r)
[15:19] <leftyfb> mra90: hint: ^ this isn't going to work because you're running an unsupported kernel
[15:20] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: So you are saying to isolate the new Ubuntu installation, have it mount the paths needed.  Then grub will install correctly
[15:20] <leftyfb> mra90: why exactly are you running the unsupported kernel again?
[15:20] <coconut> TJ-, can i ask you someting about your script? (https://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/acpi_osi.sh)
[15:20] <TJ-> coconut: sure
[15:21] <mra90> leftyfb, I am developing some audio driver
[15:21] <leftyfb> mra90: maybe start with doing it against a supported kernel?
[15:21] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: yeah 'chroot' into the install, and it would be as if you booted it, somewhat, and then the grub efi in the install will run and it should have all the efi stuff to distribute them in the dirs
[15:22] <coconut> TJ-, can i just execute it without checking it and on any ubuntu version? Thnx.
[15:22] <RonWhoCares> OK
[15:22] <RonWhoCares> Thanks
[15:22] <EriC^^> no problem
[15:23] <mra90> leftyfb, sure but how to build "supported kernel"
[15:23] <mra90> how can I generate proper config?
[15:23] <leftyfb> mra90: just boot back into one of the installed kernels
[15:23] <mra90> hmm
[15:24] <TJ-> coconut: you should be able to yes, but as it is a while since I wrote it, let me go check my memory is correct. I'm pretty sure it prompts you to confirm you want to make the changes it suggests!
[15:24] <mra90> some either one of "generic" will be fine?
[15:25] <coconut> TJ-, ok thanks for the help TJ-, appreciated it.(running 20.04 ubuntu mate or later)
[15:25] <TJ-> coconut: yes, it asks you: "read -p "Do you want to add this setting (y/n) ? " answer "
[15:26] <TJ-> coconut: it adds an entry to /etc/default/grub and shows you the modification it made
[15:26] <coconut> ok, will try it now then.
[15:27] <leftyfb> mra90: try it
[15:31] <coconut> oh TJ-, now i see there already a "Windows 2015" line in /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT. Do i still need to run the script with this line already there?
[15:31] <mra90> leftyfb, seems to work fine!
[15:31] <mra90> my usb mass storage device is now descovered
[15:31] <leftyfb> mra90: ya think?
[15:32] <mra90> TJ-, mason, leftyfb thank you all guys!
[15:32] <mra90> one more think I have up2 board and there is also a problem with a mass storage device but of different nature
[15:32] <coconut> TJ-, this is how it is now https://termbin.com/2xfm
[15:32] <mason> mra90: Sure, happy to help for the limited amount I helped.
[15:33] <TJ-> coconut: that is showing you what the PC's firmware can recognise - so the script grabs that and adds it to the Linux kernel boot entries so it pretends to be that version of Windows, which causes the firmware to enable more features
[15:33] <mra90> namely the device is discoverable every time however if you keep it connected long enough it will go crazy disconecting and reconnecting itself every say 10 seconds
[15:33] <mra90> any idea what may cause that?
[15:34] <TJ-> mra90: Yes; USB issues
[15:34] <leftyfb> or power saving issues
[15:34] <TJ-> mra90: sounds like possibly a power starvation issue
[15:35] <oerheks> usb2 - usb3 story?
[15:35] <mra90> any idea how do disable that PM
[15:35] <mra90> pwer management for this USB port
[15:35] <TJ-> mra90: show us the messages from the kernel log when this happens
[15:35] <coconut> TJ-, so the script changes that to only "Windows 2015" ?
[15:36] <mra90> TJ-, have to reproduce the issuue first
[15:36] <mra90> give me some time
[15:36] <TJ-> coconut: it *adds* acpi_osi="Windows 2015" to the kernel command line so the kernel tells the firmware it is Windows 2015
[15:37] <coconut> i see
[15:37] <TJ-> mra90: isn't it in the history logs? use "journalctl -e" to track it down
[15:37] <TJ-> coconut: and that should ensure the firmware enables and configures the maximum set of features
[15:39] <mra90> TJ-, as I said its different device
[15:39] <mra90> I am connecting it noww...
[15:39] <TJ-> mra90: oh, sorry, I missed that ... multitasking here
[15:45] <coconut> TJ-, first two reboots had it's success with wifi, third and fourth did not.
[15:51] <mra90> TJ-, leftyfb I have reproduced the issue wwith disconecting storage device
[15:51] <TJ-> coconut: were they 'cold' or 'warm' reboots?
[15:52] <mra90> here comes the log -> http://termbin.com/1mhvp
[15:52] <TJ-> coconut: there are systems that'll have problems with 'warm' reboots because they don't completely reset the hardware
[15:53] <JediMaster> Hey all, I use Ubuntu every day on 100+ servers, love it, I've however had to use Windows 10 for a desktop for work for some proprietary server software that there's no linux alternative for. I've switched to Ubuntu 20.04 for desktop for the vast majority of work now but it's REALLY slow. It's mainly appears to be heavily CPU bound, has anyone else seen this? I use Chrome and unfortunately Skype, and they both lag the machine hugely compared with
[15:53] <JediMaster> Windows 10.
[15:53] <TJ-> mra90: first thing I'd check is that "blk_update_request: I/O error, dev sda, sector 1149059159" <-- that sector is actually inside the device
[15:54] <JediMaster> I'm trying to figure out why it's performing so badly. This machine was built as a very low power consuming machine (it averages about 11w) and runs silky smooth in Windows 10, but it uses the onboard/onchip Intel graphics with the CPU
[15:54] <TJ-> mra90: earlier in the log will be a report of the number of sectors on the device
[15:55] <JediMaster> Could this all be related to the graphics drivers maybe? Just not sure given that everything appears to be CPU bound, or could that be a symptom of using the CPU's on-chip GPU?
[15:55] <mra90> TJ-, nope
[15:55] <mra90> sector is only mentioned in this log
[15:55] <TJ-> JediMaster: if it is CPU bound I'd check what processes are using it... try "top" or "htop"
[15:55] <mra90> in this particular record
[15:55] <coconut> TJ-, first two were reboots, third a shutdown and fourth a reboot.
[15:56] <JediMaster> Specs: Intel Core i5-7600T CPU @ 2.8Ghz, 16GB RAM
[15:56] <JediMaster> TJ-, as I mentioned above, mainly Chrome and Skype
[15:56] <pylearner> For ubuntu 20.04 how on earth does one get to install easy_install to install python packages
[15:57] <JediMaster> TJ-, I sync tabs in Windows and have no problem with the same number of tabs open (which does tend to be high), but even with Chrome closed Skype eats through CPU, especially with annoying chats full of animated gifs!
[15:58] <JediMaster> Also other people sharing screens on Skype calls kills it, but no issues in Windows
[15:59] <JediMaster> Just feels loosely like it might be the CPU's GPU drivers being the issue, but it's hard to pin down. I kept with it for 3 months and just couldn't work with it any more and had to switch back. You could hear the CPU fan on 100% constantly, it's silent in Windows =/
[15:59] <mra90> TJ-, leftyfb new more interesting log -> https://termbin.com/lrki
[15:59] <relipse> If I plug my laptop into the wall I get 300mps but on wireless I get 25mbps, what is the issue? Do I need  a new router to get 300mbps speed on wireless?
[16:00] <JediMaster> Trouble is, only space GPU I could test my theory with is a RTX 2080 which is larger than the mini-ITX motherboard lol
[16:00] <JediMaster> *spare
[16:02] <TJ-> mra90: are you able to test that GoFlex with a smaller drive attached? Or able to prove it works fine on another PC/OS ?
[16:02] <JediMaster> Does anyone else run Ubuntu 20.04 on a machine with the onboard CPU based intel GPU? Are you seeing poor performance with it?
[16:02] <mra90> TJ-, yes good question it works fine with my TV and other laptops as well
[16:02] <JediMaster> It probably doesn't help that I'm running dual 4k screens on it too, one DP and one HDMI
[16:02] <TJ-> mra90: I've seen some of these USB<>SATA adapter chipsets that limit the maximum LBA they can address
[16:03] <TJ-> mra90: good!
[16:03] <JediMaster> Really want to be rid of Windows but the performance is dreadful on 20.04 desktop for me =/
[16:03] <TJ-> mra90: "new high-speed USB device number 15 using xhci_hcd" indicates the GoFlex is USB2 connected to a USB3 port - does this PC have a USB 2 port you can connect it to?
[16:04] <TJ-> JediMaster: does it improve if you temporarily disconnect one of those monitors?
[16:04] <TJ-> JediMaster: because the 'grunt' required to render 2x 4K is quite a load without hardware offload
[16:04] <JediMaster> TJ-, that's a good question. I also had to muck around a lot to get the HDMI monitor to display at 4k
[16:05] <JediMaster> Took nearly a week to get it to display anything other than 1024x768
[16:05] <mra90> TJ-, no matter to what port I connect it to the story is the same
[16:05] <JediMaster> Sorry the DP monitor that should be, the HDMI worked fine
[16:05] <mra90> in fact I don't know if these ports are v2 or v3
[16:05] <mra90> how can I check?
[16:05] <TJ-> mra90: and some of those ports are USB2? e.g. not blue-coloured tongues in them?
[16:05] <TJ-> mra90: blue is supposed to denote USB3 ports
[16:06] <mra90> yes so then all of them are USB 3
[16:07] <mra90> are you trying to say it won't work with USB3?
[16:07] <TJ-> mra90: we do see some problems like this with some USB3 chipsets - in theory it is supposed to be backward compatible but ... maybe not
[16:08] <JediMaster> TJ-, brb, will try that out, thanks
[16:10] <TJ-> mra90: the problem is usually in the USB controller on the PC, if that is the cause, which is why we suggest trying pure USB2 ports
[16:17] <mra90> TJ-, but this is physicaly not possible
[16:17] <mra90> all ports are the "blue" one
[16:18] <mra90> maybe I can update the kernel
[16:18] <mra90> i see it uses '4.9.45-upboard+"
[16:19] <JediMaster> Hey TJ-, I tried that, I'm booted back into 20.04 desktop now, I timed roughly 3 minutes of CPU load at about 8-10 while loading Chrome before I could actually start browsing pages at anything resembling something workable.
[16:20] <JediMaster> TJ-, now I do have around 30 tabs open, but it's never had performance issues before on Windows 10 with the same tabs open.
[16:20] <JediMaster> TJ-, Anyhow, just leaving it on the default Gmail tab, not touching any other page, so normally they don't even load into memory until you click them, it took around 3 minutes for Chrome to be useable.
[16:21] <JediMaster> TJ-, This was all on the 4k HDMI, I then just pulled the DisplayPort plug out of the second monitor, closed chrome, re-opened and it's almost instantly useable and I've never seen Ubuntu 20.04 this snappy
[16:21] <TJ-> JediMaster: have you checked the kernel log for indications of hardware problems?
[16:21] <JediMaster> CPU is no longer churning away, load is at 0.7 with 4 cores rather than 8-10
[16:23] <oerheks> trottle down 4k to 30 fps?
[16:23] <TJ-> JediMaster: I'm not sure about Google Chrome but I know it has a reputation for being a hog in some circumstances. Have you tried opening it with a new, empty, profile to compare the load speed?
[16:23] <JediMaster> TJ-, no, not looked, but just spotted this: [  323.950108] mce: CPU3: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 90012)
[16:23] <JediMaster> TJ-, all 4 cpu cores over temperature and throttled, no wonder it was having problems
[16:23] <TJ-> JediMaster: that'd slow it down! CPU overheating
[16:24] <JediMaster> The CPU fan is down really low and is nearly silent now without the second monitor plugged in
[16:26] <JediMaster> TJ-, to get the DP monitor working in anything other than 1024x768 I've had to add a display line mode: xrandr --newmode "3840x2160R"  533.00  3840 3888 3920 4000  2160 2163 2168 2222 +hsync -vsync, then assign it to the DP-1 port
[16:27] <JediMaster> I have that in my .xprofile file, and that finally sorted the lack of 4k on the second screen, but looks like somehow that's what's causing the problems
[16:28] <JediMaster> I guess the question is, why doesn't Ubuntu support the DisplayPort monitor out of the box with the "Intel Corporation HD Graphics 630" onchip controller?
[16:29] <TJ-> JediMaster: that infers the monitor isn't providing EDID info. remind me - is the monitor connected with DP to DP, or a HDMI>DP or DP>HDMI or similar? Because we had a similar situation recently
[16:29] <TJ-> JediMaster: can you show us "xrandr -q" report with both monitors connected?
[16:30] <JediMaster> TJ-, DP socket on the miniITX motherboard directly to an ACER 4k DP monitor
[16:30] <TJ-> JediMaster: the max beinf 1024x768 sounds to me like the 'standard' VESA range of modes with that being the max, and that infers the EDID from the monitor isn't being received, or might be corrupt
[16:31] <TJ-> JediMaster: there may be clues in the Xorg.0.log which reports mode enquiry (EDID) results (modelines)
[16:31] <TJ-> JediMaster: (unless it's using Wayland in which case there is no Xorg.0.log !)
[16:32] <JediMaster> TJ-, brb, pluggint the monitor back in has reset the DPI settings and I can't read your messages now, need to reload IRC, one sec
[16:33] <JediMaster> Sorry TJ-, back, I can see what you said now =)
[16:34] <JediMaster> TJ-, here you go, xrandr -q output: https://pastebin.com/HJccb6Xs
[16:35] <JediMaster> By the way, I have the same 4k 3840x2160 @ 30Hz on Windows 10 on HDMI, but display port works fine @60Hz on Windows
[16:36] <TJ-> JediMaster: so "3840x2160R    59.97*" is from your custom modeline?
[16:36] <JediMaster> I'm not playing games on this machine, so 30Hz isn't an issue, don't even notice it
[16:36] <JediMaster> TJ-, yes, hence nothing above 1024x768
[16:37] <JediMaster> other than that
[16:37] <TJ-> JediMaster: that output definitely suggests the EDID is not being read so we need to find the Xorg.0.log - are you using plain Ubuntu (not Xubuntu/Kubuntu/whatever) ?
[16:37] <JediMaster> Yeah, just standard Ubuntu 20.04 LTs
[16:38] <TJ-> JediMaster: I can ever remember where gnome puts that log since it was moved from /var/log/ to a user directory. Try locating it with "find $HOME -name 'Xorg*.log'
[16:39] <JediMaster> TJ-, I've been looking for that for ages! It's ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log
[16:40] <mason> Gah. How does it make sense to have Xorg.0.log in a user directory?
[16:40] <JediMaster> TJ-, "Printing probed modes for output DP-1" only shows 640x480 up to 1024x768 modelines
[16:40] <JediMaster> But it does specifically say "EDID for output DP-1" and no errors
[16:40] <mason> Or is this the new ~/.xsession-errors, since ~/.xsession-errors is too established and not shiny enough?
[16:41] <JediMaster> TJ-, https://pastebin.com/vr2m5uD5
[16:45] <JediMaster> TJ-, thanks for the help, much appreciated, I need to go give someone a lift, will be 20-25 min
[17:16] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^:   I still have an error.  Start at line 34: https://pastebin.com/2MAmCUC2
[17:21] <TJ-> RonWhoCares: not been following but at line 28 the error suggests to me that the liveISO environment booted in BIOS mode and possibly doesn't have the GRUB EFI files required. You should be able to work around that using a chroot on /target/ and issuing the command in the chroot instead
[17:22] <RonWhoCares> TJ-: I will try.  By the way:  You'd grow up near Hamilton Ontario Canada di you?
[17:23] <JediMaster> TJ-, I'm looking through the Xorg log but don't see any smoking gun. Despite what it says there isn't an HDMI-2 port, there's 1 HDMI and 1 DP
[17:25] <JediMaster> TJ-, you're right, there's no EDID output for DP-1, but it does fully detect HDMI-1
[17:27] <TJ-> JediMaster: yeah; I was reading the Intel i915 source code, based on the clue of the the 848x480 that is unusual, and that appears to be one of the 'standard' resolutions offered (by the driver) when it thinks/assumes a TV is connected
[17:27] <TJ-> JediMaster: can you show us "pastebinit <( journalctl -k )" so we can see if the kernel is reporting any clues?
[17:28] <TJ-> RonWhoCares: nope
[17:29] <JediMaster> TJ-, this might be the issue: https://community.acer.com/en/discussion/306524/acer-xb280hk-has-incorrect-edid
[17:30] <JediMaster> That's the monitor, appears to have issues in Linux with EDID
[17:30] <TJ-> RonWhoCares: you'd need the package "grub-efi-amd64-bin" that provides  "/usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi/modinfo.sh" to be installed in the LiveISO for it to work outside the chroot
[17:31] <JediMaster> I've had the same issue with it not detecting the 4k resolution with Ubuntu 18.04 too, so this makes sense
[17:31] <TJ-> JediMaster: which display do the POST/firmware/boot messages appear on?
[17:31] <RonWhoCares> To be honest we are so far out of what I normally do with Linux that I have to sit here and think about what I'm doing.    I've been keeping it all in 1 paste so I can look at this and study it.  It is a lot of mind work :)
[17:31] <AppAraat[m]> hi, s-tui package gives an error, if this is a bug, where do I report? https://paste.debian.net/plain/1155931/
[17:32] <TJ-> RonWhoCares: indeed it is! I eat this stuff for breakfast so its 2nd nature :)
[17:32] <RonWhoCares> TJ-: Sure wish I could
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> AppAraat[m]: i just installed it without errors here
[17:33] <TJ-> JediMaster: I'm wondering if there is some option in the Intel i915 kernel module you could flip to help here. I looked earlier but nothing jumped out at me, but take a look yourself: "modinfo --parameters i915"
[17:34] <AppAraat[m]> lotuspsychje: On 20.04 ?
[17:34] <TJ-> JediMaster: the fact no EDID is being exchanged, even no attempt to get one that then fails, suggests something wrong on the DP's phy layer
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> AppAraat[m]: oh wait, lemme try launch it
[17:34] <AppAraat[m]> also, no errors if you run it?
[17:34] <AppAraat[m]> yeah :)
[17:35] <TJ-> JediMaster: lets look at the kernel log from "journalctl -k" as I suggested above
[17:35] <JediMaster> TJ-, thanks very much for your help, this has caused me no end of issues
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> AppAraat[m]: i have these errors on installing too: SyntaxWarning: 'str' object is not callable; perhaps you missed a comma?
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> AppAraat[m]: but launch worked, without errors
[17:35] <JediMaster> TJ-, is it worth trying some of the other modelines suggested on that link?
[17:36] <AppAraat[m]> lotuspsychje: Are you on 20.04 ?
[17:36] <JediMaster> Or are we better off trying to get the EDID working to get the correct one?
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> AppAraat[m]: yes
[17:36] <TJ-> JediMaster: well, setting the modelines manually simply does what the EDID should do automatically, so as long as they're correct it should work
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> AppAraat[m]: https://imgur.com/a/OXo353G
[17:36] <TJ-> JediMaster: if you can manually set your preferred mode that will give you a workaround at least, until/if/when you can find a permanent fix for the bug
[17:37] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: reading
[17:38] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: TJ- gave some input.  I added it to the bottom.  This is now the most up to date:    https://pastebin.com/Ascx7iNt
[17:38] <TJ-> JediMaster: i saw some mentions in the intel GFX developer mailing lists of bugs related to querying EDID being caused by the GPU not waiting long enough after reseting the link before trying to communicate with the monitor, and that causing the EDID not be be grabbed
[17:39] <FunnyLookinHat> Ubuntu has (or still has?) the ability to create a user + shove an SSH key on them by default with an initial boot by placing a file in the filesystem somewhere... but I can't remember it for the life of me, and my googling is drawing a blank.  Anyone have any ideas?
[17:39] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: try inside the chroot "grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi"
[17:39] <RonWhoCares> OK
[17:40] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: Please hold the line an operator will be with you shortly :p
[17:40] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: xD
[17:41] <TJ-> in this channel it's more like "another bug or error will be with you shortly" !
[17:41] <AppAraat[m]> lotuspsychje: hmm, weird. Perhaps it's because of the fact that I'm in a VM. I'll try installing it from the repo or pip and perhaps that will work.
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> AppAraat[m]: it should work out of the box
[17:42] <JediMaster> TJ-, I have the same monitor on another machine with the RTX2080 on it but on 18.04, I could get the modelines from there, I don't get the issues on that GPU, I suspect it's a combination of the intel GPU and the monitor
[17:43] <TJ-> JediMaster: yes, I do too, I suspect it is a timing issue on the physical link layer
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> JediMaster: wich driver are you using on that big rtx?
[17:46] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/QJLGzMxs I think I have the same error.  Starting at line 77  (The reason for the pastebin is so I can add this to askubuntu.com when it works to help some other)
[17:47] <JediMaster> Oh the irony, I've not booted it into 18.04 for a while and Xorg looks dead, I'll write a 20.04 USB stick and boot from it
[17:47] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: lol where's the faith! :D
[17:48] <EriC^^> no parachutes on this ride *throws them off the plane*
[17:50] <fiter> I have a dockerfile (here https://github.com/ammarsabircheema/single_cell_rna_seq_data_analysis/blob/master/rna_veloctiy/DockerFile)The docker image is build successfully but when I run container then it exits immediately and I can't run the container on the specified port, I am using the commands given here (https://pastebin.com/1u1hXkuQ) to build
[17:50] <fiter> the docker image and to run the container
[17:50] <fiter> Is there issue in my commands?
[17:52] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^:   I am not understanding
[17:53] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^:  Should line 34 be $ sudo mount /target/boot/efi
[17:54] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: no that's correct
[17:54] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: try using "grub-install -v" it will give more info while it tries
[17:54] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: i think this is something to do with raid + efi, reading about it a little now
[17:55] <RonWhoCares> so I just add the "-v" to the line 77 syntax?
[17:56] <saveNexit> hello, it happens lately often that I cant power-off disks. the partition is reported as busy. I tried udisksctl, fuser, kill...but none helped
[17:57] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: yes
[17:58] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: also please pastebin the output of "ls -lR /boot/efi" im curious as to how far it's actually getting into the install, maybe the files are already there?
[17:58] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: That had the effect of slipping it hard sider   https://pastebin.com/ZQNGAXLs
[17:59] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: hmm there might be an error in the mount binding
[17:59] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: type please "ls -l /dev" do you see the devices?
[18:01] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: https://pastebin.com/pKe6ygKy
[18:01] <EriC^^> nope no files
[18:03] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: 1 more sec.  I have to login to my pastebin account on the computer I'm commissioning, I have used up the 10 free ones :p
[18:04] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: you could send the output of commands straight to termbin.com using command | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:05] <RonWhoCares> ph!\
[18:06] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: termbin.com/tsdm6
[18:08] <EriC^^> looks good
[18:08] <EriC^^> and md127 is there
[18:08] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: So why is it so upset at me
[18:09] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: i just realized you have no efi partition, right?
[18:09] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: try 'cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999'
[18:09] <RonWhoCares> I do have on EriC^^
[18:09] <EriC^^> sdd1?
[18:09] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: Yes
[18:10] <EriC^^> why is it 120GB
[18:10] <RonWhoCares> Because I didn't have anything smaller
[18:10] <RonWhoCares> hehehehe
[18:10] <RonWhoCares> I don't know a lot about what I am trying to do
[18:10] <RonWhoCares> I don't know how to setup a RAID with it's own efi partition
[18:11] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: type '(cat /etc/fstab; parted -ls; blkid) | nc termbin.com 9999'
[18:11] <RonWhoCares> The 120GB is an mSATA .  I was going to only use it for booting then onto the SD's
[18:11] <EriC^^> there's something in the archwiki isaw about raid1 and efi, but it mentioned it might cause corruption or something
[18:11] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: yeah that's overkill, the efi partition only needs like 300mb maximum
[18:11] <RonWhoCares> Correct.  I read that.  That is why I got out a mSATA and mounted it
[18:11] <mason> No need for RAID 1 with EFI under 20.04 - it'll handle multiple distinct ESPs now.
[18:11] <RonWhoCares> I know
[18:12] <mason> dpkg-reconfigure grub-efi-amd64 will let you select multiple ESPs the same way dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc lets you select multiple drives.
[18:13] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: ok, run the previous termbin command, then try dpkg-reconfigure grub-efi-amd64 as mason suggested
[18:13] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: ok.  1 minute
[18:18] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/jdpay
[18:20] <RonWhoCares> http://dpaste.com/05V8MES
[18:20] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: I don't know what's suppose to go in the 'Linux command line'
[18:24] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: it all looks good
[18:24] <EriC^^> give the dpkg-reconfigure command a try
[18:25] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: Does that go in the Linux command line in the paste from the other suggestion?  http://dpaste.com/05V8MES
[18:25] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: Or do I just click 'ok' and then do the command you just said?
[18:25] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: yeah you can keep it empty
[18:26] <EriC^^> no it's already been run
[18:26] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: So I press [ OK ]
[18:26] <EriC^^> yup
[18:26] <RonWhoCares> 1 minute
[18:29] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: http://dpaste.com/01GPHWR
[18:31] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: interesting, try 'dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999'
[18:31] <EriC^^> it seems grub-pc was installed not grub-efi
[18:32] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^:  Is my installation recoverable
[18:32] <RonWhoCares> ?
[18:32] <mason> RonWhoCares: From rescue media, pretty easily. I've bounced systems back and forth between legacy and UEFI in the recent past.
[18:33] <RonWhoCares> I on't know what I'm suppose to
[18:33] <mason> RonWhoCares: Boot live media or something, mount your root, bind mount sys, dev, proc, chroot in, mount everything, perform the package changes.
[18:33] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: yes sure it is
[18:34] <RonWhoCares> mason: I am already booted into live
[18:34] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: try the dpkg command to see which packages are installed right now, any missing ones we'll add
[18:34] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: What is the dpkg command
[18:34] <hacker417_> hey
[18:34] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: interesting, try 'dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999'
[18:35] <hacker417_> anyone able to help figure out why i can't connect to wifi without tethering
[18:35] <RonWhoCares> I just pasted that to Google.  A lot of good it did
[18:35] <RonWhoCares> ghehe
[18:35] <EriC^^> :D
[18:37] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/elol0
[18:38] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: type 'apt-get remove grub-pc'
[18:38] <EriC^^> sorry
[18:38] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: type 'apt-get remove grub-pc-bin'
[18:39] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: OK
[18:40] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: Do I do this inside
[18:40] <EriC^^> yes RonWhoCares
[18:40] <RonWhoCares> (with the /mnt steps from a few minutes ago)
[18:40] <RonWhoCares> ok
[18:41] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: Done
[18:44] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: What does it need
[18:44] <RonWhoCares> next/
[18:44] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: you could try apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-amd64-signed
[18:45] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: see the answer here about md127 https://serverfault.com/questions/285978/grub2-not-detecting-os-on-raid-partitions
[18:46] <EriC^^> ah actually nevermind, that's not efi related
[18:54] <ELFrederich> So, snaps can't access NFS folders, can flatpaks?
[18:55] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: http://dpaste.com/33DNWFJ
[18:55] <sarnold> that's more likely, I think their sandboxing is quite a bit thinner
[18:58] <mrstrange> hey guys i just upgraded to 20.04 all is fine except for some unicode characters
[18:58] <mrstrange> https://imgur.com/a/ZZ1Wlp2
[18:58] <mrstrange> i dont know why it doesnt seem to show them properly
[18:58] <mrstrange> it worked back on 18.04
[18:58] <mrstrange> i did clean install
[18:58] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: interesting stuff, is there any files in "ls -lR /boot/efi" now?
[18:59] <ELFrederich> yeah... doesn't seem the flatpak can open nfs shares either
[18:59] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: i was just thinking, maybe we need to install mdadm in the live usb not chroot and then in the chroot maybe the grub install would work
[18:59] <Jordan_U> mrstrange: Is this only happening in the terminal? What terminal emulator are you using? What is the output of "echo $LANG"?
[18:59] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: sorry im guessing alot, i dont know much about raid really
[19:00] <mrstrange> Jordan_U: its my server i dont have a monitor hooked up
[19:00] <mrstrange> im using putty
[19:00] <mrstrange> but nothing else changed on the connecting end its on the server
[19:01] <mrstrange> en_US.UTF-8
[19:02] <mrstrange> im not currently on my own laptop but i run xubuntu on that and xfce4-terminal also didnt show them properly when i connected
[19:02] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: http://www.termbin.com/s23s
[19:02] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: ok, try to type 'exit' then sudo apt-get install mdadm
[19:03] <EriC^^> then sudo chroot /mnt again, then try 'grub-install'
[19:03] <ELFrederich> So I'm trying to install OnlyOffice... I go for Snap because it's available in the Ubuntu Software.  It can't open from an nfs share.  Then I try the FlatPak and same thing.  So I go to onlyoffice website to install from .deb.  Then the software manager can't open the file because even the software manager is implemented as a snap
[19:03] <ELFrederich> ... first I have to explicitly download the .deb, I can't open it because if I open it... it's opening from /tmp.  First impressions of 20.04 are not great
[19:04] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: That isn't necessary --- I already installed it before running the Ubuntu Studio 20.04 installer so the RAID would be acknowledged
[19:04] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: mdadm is still installed.  I did check
[19:07] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: oh ok
[19:07] <sarnold> ELFrederich: apt install /path/to/onlyoffice.deb  should work
[19:08] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^:  Are you  stuck?
[19:08] <RonWhoCares> Am I back to the issue of the /boot/efi ?
[19:09] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: i have no idea abou raid tbh
[19:09] <EriC^^> *about
[19:10] <RonWhoCares> o
[19:10] <RonWhoCares> ok
[19:10] <RonWhoCares> I can look at this when I'm fresh
[19:10] <oerheks> ELFrederich, go into softwarecenter > installed > onlyoffice > permissions ??
[19:11] <sarnold> oerheks: I don't thikn the snapd team has exposed a way to add network access to all snaps for NFS access :(
[19:11] <sarnold> it might be worth a conversation in #snappy or #snapcraft
[19:12] <oerheks> i see document server too .. https://snapcraft.io/onlyoffice-ds
[19:14] <sarnold> wow that looks a lot nicer than libreoffice (sorry libreoffice)
[19:14] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: maybe this helps? in the answer in the last step he ran a command and grub seemed to read the raid stuff better https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=743512
[19:15] <oerheks> sarnold, i see 'readwrite on removable storage'
[19:15] <sarnold> oerheks: I think that's just /media/** rw, rules, not "networking," :(
[19:15] <oerheks> but not allowing NFS, is this a common thingy?
[19:15] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: maybe mdadm --examine /dev/sda1 ? helps
[19:16] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: Right back
[19:18] <sarnold> oerheks: the thing is, nfs means networking, and apparmor has no way to know if the network request for a process is coming from within the kernel (nfs) or from the process itself (connect(), sendto(), etc) at that point -- so there's no way to just add "let the process use nfs mounts" to apparmor policy
[19:19] <RonWhoCares> http://dpaste.com/3GH4HAT
[19:19] <sarnold> oerheks: and the snapd team apparently gets so few bug reports about NFS use that they haven't prioritized adding "bypass network access controls so NFS works" button to anything
[19:19] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^:  http://dpaste.com/3GH4HAT
[19:19] <sarnold> oerheks: .. and because snaps just plain don't work with NFS, no one who uses NFS uses snaps long enough to file bug reports about it...
[19:19] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: ok try 'grub-install' again now
[19:20] <sud0x> Hi all, using the latest version of Ubuntu and trying to install a `.desktop` application but ubuntu seems to hate this now. Need help
[19:21] <sud0x> I've tried changing the permissions to allow execution but I don't have an `Allow Launching` option when I right click
[19:21] <ioria> sud0x, define 'a `.desktop` application'
[19:21] <sud0x> Also, it's currently launching with a text editor
[19:21] <sud0x> it's a remote desktop solution that needs to be installed through a .desktop
[19:21] <ioria> sud0x, and you know the name of this app ?
[19:22] <oerheks> why hiding the name of that 'solution' ?
[19:22] <oerheks> boring
[19:23] <oerheks> sarnold, softlinks do not work either, i see :-(
[19:23] <sud0x> not hiding, I honestly didn't think it was relevant to the conversation. App: https://www.beyondtrust.com/
[19:23] <sud0x> One of the resources I've used: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1237042/desktop-files-not-launching-from-desktop-in-ubuntu-20-04-lts
[19:23] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: http://dpaste.com/19E4QRC
[19:23] <oerheks> thanks sud0x, now we can find others with issues, or bugreports
[19:23] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: What was I suppose to do?
[19:24] <sud0x> np oerheks ty for helping
[19:24] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: type 'sudo chroot /mnt'
[19:24] <ioria> sud0x,  bpaste the .desktop file and its permissions
[19:24] <EriC^^> then 'grub-install'
[19:26] <sud0x> The .desktop file is on my Desktop too
[19:26] <sud0x> would appreciate any help on this, been on this for hours :(
[19:27] <ioria> sud0x,    ^ paste the .desktop file and its permissions
[19:27] <sud0x> how? like a screenshot?
[19:27] <ioria> !paste
[19:27] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: dpaste.com/33WVVN8
[19:28] <sud0x> ok nvm, it worked now. The allow launching option magically decided to pop up
[19:28] <sud0x> ty for your help guys
[19:28] <EriC^^> sud0x: do 'cat /path/to/file.desktop' and also 'ls -l /path/to/file.desktop'
[19:29] <sarnold> oerheks: yes, the kernel completely resolves symbolic links before passing the results to LSMs for further use; you can use bind mounts, though. those are a bit of a pain in the butt to set up afresh each boot though.
[19:29] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: Does that mean it worked?
[19:31] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: no, type 'sudo chroot /mnt'
[19:31] <EriC^^> you're not in the chroot right now, it should say root@....:#
[19:32] <RonWhoCares> So I have to repeat the previous command?
[19:36] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: http://dpaste.com/33WVVN8  Line 2 I did it.  Then I did grub-install
[19:37] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: yay! it worked
[19:37] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: type now 'update-grub'
[19:37] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: Party like it is Y2K
[19:37] <RonWhoCares> OK
[19:38] <EriC^^> lol
[19:42] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: Cancel the Y2K party http://dpaste.com/3R7TA4F   It should not be including /sdb --- /sdb is the live image to install.  The RAID is sda and sdc with the /boot/efi on sdd1
[19:47] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: it's normal, to confirm, "ls -lR /boot/efi" should now have files
[19:49] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: http://dpaste.com/34RRMXK
[19:50] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: all good, type 'exit' and try rebooting
[19:51] <RonWhoCares> And I can disconnect the live version USB device?
[19:52] <EriC^^> yes sir
[19:56] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: It worked!  Thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuU!
[19:58] <EriC^^> RonWhoCares: great! no problem
[19:58] <RonWhoCares> Onward and Upwards
[20:00] <EriC^^> :D
[20:12] <mrstrange> anyone have issues with ubuntu 20.04 and some characters not showing up properly in terminal?
[20:13] <mrstrange> https://imgur.com/a/ZZ1Wlp2
[20:13] <mrstrange> like that
[20:13] <mrstrange> everything worked fine on 18.04
[20:14] <sarnold> mrstrange: you may need to install more font pckages to get a font that has glyphs for those characters
[20:15] <oerheks> restricted extras?
[20:15] <sarnold> mrstrange: another possibility is one of the applications in that stack of terminal, multiplexer, rtorrent, etc, might have incorrect LANG= or similar settings that would use eg not-utf-8 and utf-8, etc, a difference somewhere in the stack of terminal, shell, tmux, shell inside the tmux, rtorrent inside the tmux, etc..
[20:50] <yelowfish> hi all ,im changing gpt to mbr. gdisk says its destructive.. what will it damage?
[20:51] <yelowfish> im attempting to dual boot win7 and ubuntu.. cant install windows on the partition coz it says its on gpt
[20:52] <gurki> you could use a version of windows thats not eol
[20:53] <oerheks> sure it wipes disk. from mbr to gpt it can be done.
[20:54] <oerheks> but to be sure, troll in ##windows too
[20:55] <yelowfish> eo?
[20:55] <yelowfish> eol?
[20:55] <yelowfish> @gurki
[20:56] <akem> end of life.
[20:56] <akem> ##windows-legacy for 7 and older i think.
[20:56] <yelowfish> ic
[20:57] <trashly> .
[21:02] <mrstrange> sarnold: i dont think i installed fonts on 18.04 it just worked i think
[21:04] <Rapeseeder> Eat my diarrhea
[21:04] <Rapeseeder> Just...
[21:04] <Rapeseeder> Just ate a burger at the sleazy joint
[21:04] <Rapeseeder> Now I gotta take a shit, get to the point
[21:04] <Rapeseeder> Sittin' on the toilet, my ass is a blast
[21:04] <Rapeseeder> Runnin' smelly diarrhea outta my ass
[21:05] <mrstrange> en_US.UTF-8 thats my LANG
[21:17] <yelowfish> hi all , aside from aptik what do you use for migrating settings and data ?
[21:35] <trashly> Where ar the posts?
[21:36] <trashly> Is firefox slightly glitchy for anyone else on Ubuntu? Sometimes the bookmarking feature just doesn't work
[21:37] <trashly> It doesn't work until I restart the browser, which I have to kill the process for because it won't start up otherwise.
[21:37] <trashly> Through the task management program
[21:54] <sarnold> trashly: are you using a snap-packaged firefox or a deb-packaged firefox?
[21:56] <sarnold> mrstrange: I haven't got a clue :) I just know that it's quite common for people to need to install fonts when they get those boxes; also, be sure to check /proc/pid/environ for *every* process involved in the display, some of them may have a different environment variables than you expect
[21:58] <trashly> sarnold: I think it was installed by default. I don't think it would be a snap package.
[22:00] <sarnold> trashly: if you click the hamburger, then help, then about firefox, do you see anything that would suggest it came from a snap?
[22:02] <trashly> Sarnold: No, it just says "Mozilla Firefox for Ubuntu"
[22:02] <sarnold> trashly: bugger, that was my only guess
[22:07] <djp_> if i right-click on a file (for example an html file) and try to open it for editing from open with..., I'm presented with 3 choices, libreoffice writer, pluma and vim. libreoffice writer opens the file as does pluma. however, nothing happens if i choose vim?
[22:09] <mori> i think vim is a console/terminal application so you won't see anything
[22:10] <sarnold> djp_: I wonder if you need to install vim-gtk3 ?
[22:12] <djp_> sarnold: it's a default install. i was just wondering why it appeared as an option but didn't launch? so basically i would need to install vim-gtk3 in order for the option to open files? mori: i see. that explains why it doesn't open.
[22:18] <sarnold> djp_: I haven't got a clue if that will fix it, I'm just suggesting it as something that'll take about ten seconds to try :)
[22:18] <djp_> sarnold: sure. thanks. will give it a go.
[22:45] <redkahuna> Hey all, I don't know where i can ask this question: How can i handle wss protocol with curl ?
[22:49] <sarnold> redkahuna: there's something on https://gist.github.com/htp/fbce19069187ec1cc486b594104f01d0 that looks promising -- but I'm not sure that wss really 'works' with something like a simple command line utility
[22:51] <redkahuna> sarnold: :'( do you know an alternative to send data over a websocket instead of curl ?
[22:53] <sarnold> redkahuna: I've only ever seen it used by purpose-specific applications..
[22:54] <sarnold> redkahuna: oh neat... the uwsc package has a cli tool https://github.com/babelouest/ulfius/tree/master/tools/uwsc
[22:57] <redkahuna> sarnold: I did not know it. I will try but i am not sure that i can send a stream of message. what a went to do is monitoring a direcotory and send a msg over a initialized websocket if event happen (like new file, deleted file etc...)
[22:58] <sarnold> redkahuna: interesting; depending upon what you're tyring to do it might be easier to use zfs send | ssh | zfs receive , or just kick off an rsync run every now and then..
[22:59] <redkahuna> sarnold: Ah, I don't want to send the file juste a json msg like {msg: "file bla bla create"} to the websocket
[23:00] <sarnold> aha
[23:04] <redkahuna> sarnold: I think i will give up with bash and write a python script to do that.
[23:05] <sarnold> redkahuna: good idea; at some point shell scripts ought to be redone in a language with fewer sharp edges :)
[23:24] <KU1U> I picked up a minidisplayport to hdmi adapter, when I plugged it in, i only see the background desktop image. Is there a way to switch that view? I am on 20.04 LTS.
[23:24] <KU1U> Perhaps it thinks it is a second screen??
[23:25] <sarnold> that seems likely
[23:25] <KU1U> is there a way to get that to be the first screen?
[23:26] <oerheks> one can adjust that in systemsettings > devices > displays
[23:26] <oerheks> further gnome-tweak-took gives some options too
[23:26] <oerheks> !info gnome-tweak-tool
[23:28] <KU1U> Thank you, I will try that
[23:29] <oerheks> one can drag the window in that picture too.
[23:31] <jwash> hi everyone, dhow do i back my custom added places in Thunar (https://i.imgur.com/0XIy5If.png) so I can move them to other computers?
[23:37] <oerheks> are those stored in ~/.config/gtk-3.0/bookmarks ?
[23:38] <pyraindrop> is timedatectl the correct way to change time zones on ubuntu 18.04lts? what is tzdata for?
[23:39] <jwash> oerheks +1
[23:39] <jwash> awesome, many thanks
[23:39] <pyraindrop> what is tzdata for? when one changes zone there - vs one changes zone in timedatectl - whta is the difference?
[23:40] <jwash> zeus is my employee, everytime i login as him i enter his password
[23:40] <jwash> i would like to use my public key, but i don't want to put it in his authorized_keys file
[23:42] <oerheks> time zone and daylight-saving time data, too much to explain https://www.iana.org/time-zones
[23:43] <pyraindrop> oerheks, can i install both tzdata and timedatectl and set the zone in both ?
[23:43] <pyraindrop> oerheks, will that be a problem?
[23:44] <oerheks> never mixed those..