[00:13] <peepsalot> is there a way to list and/or remove all packages which are installed, but their repo has since been removed from apt sources?
[00:14] <leftyfb> peepsalot: apt list --installed
[00:15] <Sven_vB> I'm using an installed (i.e. non-livecd) Ubuntu focal 64 on an external harddisk to install the same focal 64 onto the built-in disk, but the apt inside the chroot fails with "linux-image-lowlatency : Depends: linux-image-5.4.0-42-lowlatency but it is not installable", what am I doing wrong? https://paste.debian.net/plainh/3965d861
[00:15] <Sven_vB> the step before was apt update, it succeeded
[00:15] <sarnold> leftyfb: how do you find the ones that are no longer installable?
[00:16] <peepsalot> leftyfb: that shows all installed, i want just the ones whose repos are no longer in /etc/apt/sources*
[00:17] <leftyfb> peepsalot: what is the issues you are trying to solve exactly?
[00:18] <peepsalot> cleanup after an upgrade between releases
[00:18] <peepsalot> ppas etc used for newer versions, which are not needed after upgrade, causing weird conflicts, etc.
[00:20] <sarnold> peepsalot: try this: ubuntu-security-status --unavailable
[00:29] <javatexan> Rpi 4 8Gram, Ubuntu core 64 bit.  Flash fine, install rpi fine.  Update upgrade. Installed  OpenSSH-server package post-installation script subprocess returned error exit status 1
[00:29] <javatexan> tried remove and install....same messages
[00:30] <javatexan> Ubuntu core 20.04 ....sorry
[00:30] <sarnold> Sven_vB: very curious. I've poked the kernel team, I hope someone's still around
[00:31] <sarnold> javatexan: are you sure you're supposed to be able to install packages on ubuntu core? I don't know how much about it but I don't think I'd have expected an apt-get install to work on one
[00:31] <sarnold> javatexan: iirc the whole point of ubuntu core is that you deliver software to it via snaps
[00:31] <javatexan> sarnold its a little weird.  You can sudo apt update install remove
[00:32] <sarnold> javatexan: that *is* weird, I'm a bit surprised they're even there to run :)
[00:32] <javatexan> :)
[00:32] <javatexan> I’m just glad cause I didn’t feel like I moved totally to the moon ;)
[00:32] <sarnold> javatexan: I vaguely recall something like "the classic snap" is supposed to give you that ability back, but I haven't got a clue if it still exists, supported, intented to work, intended to work for something like openssh-server, etc :/ sorry there..
[00:33] <sarnold> javatexan: not you, just your software :)
[00:33] <sarnold> javatexan: did you want ubuntu-core? or was it "just" something you found with rpi smacked inthename? :)
[00:33] <sarnold> wow, where did my space bar go..
[00:33] <javatexan> I got ya.  Been using Ubuntu for years, so trying out this rpi4.  I jumped to Ubuntu-core cause of 64 and familiar
[00:34] <javatexan> missing fusion a bit at the moment, I must admit.  Haha
[00:35] <javatexan> there isn
[00:35] <javatexan> there isn’t a sshserver-server in snap
[00:36] <javatexan> openssh-server...been long afternoon ;)
[00:36] <mfilipe> is possible to configure nvidia proprietary drive with wayland in 20.04? when i install nvidia driver, the wayland option in gdm gone
[00:36] <sarnold> javatexan: it might be easier to start over from a preinstalled server image https://ubuntu.com/download/raspberry-pi/thank-you?version=20.04&architecture=arm64+raspi
[00:36] <Sven_vB> sarnold, thanks! I reproduced the problem on the host, found there are other updates, so now I apt full-upgrade in hopes it might help. (albeit it shouldn't.)
[00:37] <javatexan> Thanks
[00:37] <sarnold> Sven_vB: you can keep hitting refresh on http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux-signed/ ..
[00:37] <mfilipe> i tried to run proton games in wayland but it doesn't start
[00:38] <sarnold> Sven_vB: at least I think that's where it's supposed to go :)
[00:38] <sarnold> mfilipe: are you sure nvidia proprietary and wayland go together? I don't think I've heard of that combo often
[00:38] <Sven_vB> sarnold, do you mean they uploaded the new package indexes before the package blobs were uploaded?
[00:39] <mfilipe> i don't know... it's because i want to use wayland to run the proton steam games and i have just one gpu (nvidia)
[00:39] <sarnold> Sven_vB: that's my current guess, yes :(
[00:39] <Sven_vB> sarnold, shouldn't debmirror take care of the correct ordering?
[00:40] <Sven_vB> oh maybe they used rsync
[00:40] <sarnold> Sven_vB: iirc our mirrors are populated using reprepro
[00:45] <Sven_vB> I guess no lowlatency for me tonight
[00:46] <Sven_vB> oh maybe I can just copy the initrd from the host
[00:46] <Sven_vB> and kernel image and friends
[00:48] <sarnold> Sven_vB: or you could ask to install the previous version specifically
[00:49] <Sven_vB> good idea, I might try that as fallback.
[01:22] <arika> yo i'm having an issue where when i try to install ubuntu, it gets stuck on the updates and other software page. i tried googling the problem and found a bug it could've been, but doing what the bug said to do didn't solve it. sorry if i'm missing something, i'm kinda new to this lol
[01:22] <sarnold> arika: where did it get stuck?
[01:23] <arika> the screen that says "updates and other software" when i click next, it just gets stuck on the waiting cursor
[01:29] <rfm> arika, I've seen a similar hang on some Ubuntu installs on a virtual machine with not much memory.  How much memory in the system you're installing in?
[01:29] <arika> 16gb
[01:30] <rfm> arika, that should be plenty, the VMs I had trouble with were <4 GB
[01:31] <arika> yeah that's what i thought, although there might be other problems with my computer, possibly that it has a rtx card
[01:43] <hacker417> hey i keep asking but to no avail, I can't seem to get ubuntu to connect to wifi, any help?
[01:43] <arika> can anyone else help me with my problem i'm having? i can't really use my computer so i'm stuck playing adventure on my atari at the moment lol
[01:45] <moony> arika: Sadly, IRC is prettty slow
[01:46] <arika> it's okay, i'm just not used to it lol
[01:51] <tatertots> hacker417: can't connect to one specific wifi? or you've tried connecting to multiple wifi networks unsuccessfully ?
[03:17] <chocokep> Tired of niggers?
[04:14] <FutureRich> hello i use new version of ubuntu with 8GB ram, so it is not enough to use ubuntu with 8GB ram?
[04:14] <hacker417> tatertots, all of them
[04:14] <hacker417> ping me if you're still here :)
[04:18] <tatertots> hacker417: are you chatting from the computer right now?
[04:25] <RonWhoCares> EriC^^: Are you still here?
[04:33] <hacker417_> tatertots, yes
[04:33] <hacker417_> im tethered
[04:33] <hacker417_> i got get quicker at this, I can tether from my phone
[04:36] <tatertots> hacker417_: in terminal>    inxi -Fxxprzc0|nc termbin.com 9999
[04:37] <hacker417_> k
[04:37] <tatertots> hacker417_: follow instructions to install if not installed
[04:37] <tatertots> hacker417_: then share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link...simply say so
[04:37] <hacker417_> have to install
[04:38] <hacker417_> you guys use a special pastebin?
[04:38] <hacker417> sorry im not a real hacker btw, but aspiring to be one!
[04:39] <hacker417> https://termbin.com/pi1j
[04:42] <hacker417> tatertots, you're looking?
[04:44] <hacker417> everyone else welcome to help
[04:44] <tatertots> hacker417: in terminal>   nmcli dev wifi list|nc termbin.com 9999
[04:45] <hacker417> https://termbin.com/tj0ft
[04:45] <hacker417> what do you see so far?
[04:46] <tatertots> hacker417: in terminal>    journalctl SYSLOG_IDENTIFIER=wpa_supplicant|nc termbin.com 9999
[04:48] <hacker417> https://termbin.com/uzpr
[04:51] <tatertots> hacker417: in terminal>    journalctl SYSLOG_FACILITY=WIFI|nc termbin.com 9999
[04:51] <tatertots> hacker417: the second one is the one you want to connect to correct?
[04:52] <hacker417> mhmm
[04:52] <hacker417> -- Logs begin at Thu 2020-07-09 02:24:38 +03, end at Sat 2020-07-11 07:51:48 +03. --
[04:52] <hacker417> -- No entries --
[04:53] <tatertots> hacker417: ok
[04:54] <tatertots> hacker417: in terminal>     journalctl -f &> ~/nip.pir
[04:54] <tatertots> hacker417: then try to connect to the desired wifi
[04:54] <tatertots> hacker417: let me know once you completed attempting to connect
[04:54] <hacker417> taking time
[04:55] <hacker417> how long it usually takes?
[04:55] <tatertots> hacker417: how long does what take?
[04:55] <hacker417> this command to run
[04:56] <tatertots> hacker417: don't focus on the command...focus on trying to connect
[04:56] <tatertots> hacker417: let me know once you completed attempting to connect
[04:56] <hacker417> failed
[04:57] <tatertots> hacker417:  in terminal>      cat ~/nip.pir|nc termbin.com 9999
[04:57] <hacker417> https://termbin.com/ds7l
[05:03] <tatertots> hacker417: lots of failures and errors https://termbin.com/gpeg
[05:05] <hacker417> hmmmm
[05:05] <hacker417> any ideas?
[05:06] <tatertots> hacker417: does driver manager offer you any drivers for wifi?
[05:09] <tatertots> hacker417: has it ever connected successfully?
[05:09] <hacker417> no
[05:10] <hacker417> first question idk
[05:15] <tatertots> hacker417: seems to be common issue with your WLAN adapter, some are installing backports to get it working, there is also a driver you can install
[05:17] <hacker417> what can i install?
[05:17] <hacker417> wlan?
[05:17] <hacker417> as in on my wifi adapter?
[05:17] <tatertots> driver
[05:17] <hacker417> on my computer?
[05:17] <tatertots> yes
[05:17] <hacker417> assume i know nothing
[05:18] <hacker417> my name is ironic
[05:19] <tatertots> hacker417: https://lmgtfy.com/?q=168c%3A0042+ubuntu+driver
[05:37] <Kon> What's the Launchpad package name for tracking bugs in the standard kernel for Focal?
[05:37] <Kon> A friend of mine had his wifi and bluetooth break in the 5.4.0-42 update and I'm trying to see if it's been reported yet
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> Kon: a lot of bugs are filed against the package 'linux'
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> Kon: as the modules get loaded from inside the kernel, if the package seems not to be right, the devs will change it to the right package anyways
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> Kon: the the focal kernel seems still to be -40 not 42
[05:40] <Kon> Yeah, it looks like he might have Proposed on
[05:40] <Kon> Launchpad says -42 is in Focal-proposed
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> Kon: proposed can be good for testing; for bug reporting best to file against the current kernel number, unless you are expert contributing kernels
[05:46] <Kon> lotuspsychje: Yeah, he had proposed on. I think it's on by default when installing from the Focal daily images
[06:25] <dedsec2z> LOL
[06:35] <FutureRich> hello i use new version of ubuntu with 8GB ram, so it is not enough to use ubuntu with 8GB ram?
[06:36] <bparker> what
[06:36] <lotuspsychje> FutureRich: gnome likes 8GB ram and up, but you can choose other ubuntu !flavours that need less ram
[06:37] <FutureRich> other ubuntu? what do you mean?
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> !flavours
[06:59] <mrstrange> hello guys since my move to 20.04 im having issues with my terminal on the server
[07:00] <mrstrange> https://imgur.com/a/ZZ1Wlp2 it looks like that when i login from my laptop when i logged on to the server when it was on 18.04 all looked fine
[07:00] <mrstrange> nothing changed on laptop terminal settings or anything so there must be something different on server since 20.04 any suggestions?
[07:19] <Sbur3> I may or may not be on the right channel ... by ignorance ... but I'd like to put the contents of a movie DVD of 6GB on a simple DVD 4.7GB.  Is that possible, and if so, with what program?
[07:34] <jarnos> I upgraded to 20.04. I wonder why the new default is not to check for updates?
[08:56] <geirha> mrstrange: Could it be a newer version of rtorrent uses more unicode symbols than before?
[09:03] <nichlas> Can someone tell me if there is a way to connect to old-releases.ubuntu.com with ftp, ssh, rsync. Anything other than http?
[09:05] <geirha> I doubt it
[09:06] <geirha> What's wrong with http though?
[09:07] <nichlas> I want to download my favorite release and burn it to Blu-ray. But for now i can't even see how much space they take.
[09:11] <geirha> The various Packages.gz files contain information about all the packages, including their sizes, so by downloading and parsing all those Packages files, you can calculate the total size
[09:12] <nichlas> hmm... apt-mirror might do what I need.
[09:14] <geirha> Looks like you can estimate 5G per release https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors#Releases_Statistics
[09:19] <nichlas> Hardy Heron is 57GB
[09:20] <geirha> Aha, I guess that wiki table is useless then
[09:22] <nichlas> maybe it doesn't include universe packages.
[10:39] <lenny_lemon> where i can permanently change DNS problem? every time after restart I need to do: echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | tee /etc/resolv.conf >/dev/null
[10:39] <lenny_lemon> ubuntu 18.04
[10:52] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:56] <nbusrone> How to I check my fan speed ? I install sensor-detect or lm-sensors does not detect anything.Install hardinfo does not show fan speed.
[10:58] <mrstrange> geirha: same version
[10:59] <mrstrange> everything is exactly the same except for ubuntu 20.04
[11:00] <lenny_lemon> anybody can help me resolve the issue above? please
[11:00] <lenny_lemon> i mean for permanent change
[11:03] <fleuv> Hi why this doesn't work as expected: cp -rf something-with-suffix*/* something/ ==>> cp: can't stat 'something-with-suffix*/*': No such file or directory
[11:11] <cnnx> hello
[11:12] <cnnx> I installed ubuntu 20 desktop remotely but i dont have the side bar pane always on my screen, and in settings there's no appearane option
[11:12] <cnnx> how can i get the side bar to pin my apps?
[11:33] <nbusrone> anyone here know about graphic like graph on screen brightness ? Having a quesiton , on nvidia brightness setting , there is a graph but i am not sure how to lower down the brightness at the bottom.
[11:45] <nbusrone> Does anyone know 18.04 using which type of driver to set the brightness ?
[11:53] <lenny_lemon> how can i reset DNS settings?
[11:55] <FutureRich> .
[11:58] <noudle> when my user has an entry like 'user ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL' in /etc/sudoers why does 'sudo su' still prompt for a password?
[12:12] <nbusrone> anyone know how to check screen brightness ?
[12:18] <CQ> hello, I have unattended-upgrade running but I don't see where it logs what it is doing... nothing in /var/log/dpkg.log and nothing in /var/apt either .. any ideas?
[12:20] <CQ> ...and nothing in /var/log/unattended-upgrades/ yet either
[12:20] <nbusrone> looks no one going to reply now.
[12:21] <CQ> nbusrone, well, if noone has an answer ... : )
[12:25] <nbusrone> It looks like no one active at this time more on knowing the answer
[12:26] <nbusrone> My question is quite simple as how to check brightness value but no one reply , i think most are not active now.
[12:27] <CQ> nbusrone, look at xset ... there may be something there
[12:28] <CQ> https://www.how2shout.com/how-to/how-to-change-screen-brightness-in-ubuntu-using-command-terminal.html or xrandr
[12:28] <nbusrone> CQ : brightness without contrast ? I would like to have both
[12:30] <nbusrone> Anyone know how to install from github ?
[12:30] <nbusrone> Newbie here
[12:31] <CQ> nbusrone, what do you mean "install from github" ?
[12:32] <CQ> nbusrone, have a look at the documentation...
[12:35] <nbusrone> GQ : an application i wanted to configure and make on github.
[12:36] <nbusrone> i guess no one active now , will come back in few hours later
[12:37] <daggs1> long shot question, is it possible to configure a wireless servers using ubuntu's live cd without any access to the internet?
[12:52] <mra90> how to make a network betwen two ubuntu laptops side by side
[12:52] <mra90> I have an ethernet cable
[12:52] <mra90> just need to setup thing correclty
[12:52] <mra90> withut any router ofcourse
[12:55] <Munsko> mra90, you need transfer files or what?
[12:55] <mra90> yes files, commands
[12:56] <Munsko> and you need to link those computers
[12:56] <mra90> over ethernet
[12:56] <xbfrog> is your ethernet a crossover cable?
[12:56] <Munsko> your problem is how make them in the same network ro how tranfer those things?
[12:57] <mra90> xbfrog, it is a crosover I believe
[12:57] <mra90> my problem is when I type ifconfig
[12:57] <xbfrog> good cause you need that or it wont work
[12:57] <mra90> I see ethernet stuff but not clean ip
[12:58] <CQ> mra90, do they have wifi? might be easier to set one as an access point
[12:58] <mra90> CQ no ;/
[12:58] <CQ> not sure how to configure with crossover cables
[12:58] <CQ> what do you need to transfer? USB might be easier
[12:59] <mra90> this is plain vanilay way
[12:59] <mra90> CQ please don't propose other methods I have to do it by providing ip on both ends
[12:59] <mra90> this is a setup for some script
[12:59] <CQ> https://askubuntu.com/questions/22835/how-to-network-two-ubuntu-computers-using-ethernet-without-a-router
[12:59] <mra90> which takes ip of the other machine and copies
[13:00] <mra90> yes so I am on a stage where I need to setup ip addresses
[13:01] <CQ> so what is the problem?
[13:02] <CQ> btw, the article says that it may even work with a normal cable on newer computers
[13:05] <mra90> where is the ipv4 setting tab?
[13:05] <mra90> ok I got it
[13:06] <mra90> but where they put the HWaddress taken from ipfconfig
[13:07] <mra90> I mean the ifconfig gave "eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:30:1b:b9:53:94
[13:07] <mra90> "
[13:07] <mra90> now I can imagine it needs to be but somehwwere in the process of ip assignment
[13:08] <CQ> you don't need the HW address... you just have to set the IP address, one laptop tp 10.0.0.1 and the other to 10.0.0.2 with netmasks 255.255.255.0 on both
[13:08] <CQ> you can't change the HW mac address, it's fixed on the ethernet adapter
[13:09] <mra90> but should be assign mac to an IP address?
[13:09] <mra90> what if we have more than one etherent?
[13:09] <CQ> you can go to a command line and type "ifconfig -a" ... that will show you the MAC address and the IP
[13:10] <CQ> you assign the IP address to an adapter (eth0 or enp5s0 or some such) which has a fixed HW / MAC address
[13:10] <mra90> CQ, I only see mac so far
[13:11] <mra90> CQ yes thats my point and in thge method described there we only fill the address (ip) column + netmask
[13:11] <CQ> look at ifconfig -a
[13:11] <mra90> where is the ethernet device/mac?
[13:11] <CQ> yes, that's enough
[13:11] <mra90> CQ I am looking right now
[13:11] <CQ> the MAC is fixed, ignore it
[13:12] <CQ> just set the IP and netmask
[13:12] <mra90> it doesn't mention ip
[13:12] <CQ> what doesn't mention IP?
[13:13] <CQ> ifconfig -a? there it is called "inet"
[13:19] <mra90> CQ https://termbin.com/a0xp
[13:20] <CQ> mra90, that means the IP address is not set yet.
[13:20] <CQ> ifconfig enx74da384a0e6b netmask 255.255.255.0
[13:20] <CQ> ifconfig enx74da384a0e6b 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
[13:21] <CQ> ignore the first one
[13:24] <raboof> I just upgraded a machine to eoan (with the plan to upgrade to focal next), but now it doesn't get past the '5 animated dots' loading screen (they do keep changing colours though).
[13:25] <raboof> Is there any way I can switch to a text terminal to diagnose? Unfortunately I don't get a grub prompt before it (I suspect it misdetects the video card)
[13:25] <jhan100> EriC^^ Hey, morning man!!!
[13:26] <CQ> raboof, ALT-F1 should get you a console
[13:26] <mra90> CQ what if on the other machine I don't have ubuntu but just terminal access
[13:26] <CQ> same, use ifconfig
[13:27] <CQ> ifconfig -a to see the adapters, then the other command to set, ifconfig -a again to check
[13:27] <jhan100> EriC^^ just an update about yesterday's issue, That finally worked.. Basically I understood that as it's a GPT I needed two partitions the EFI one /boot/efi and the MBR(GPT's failover), after that just needed to run the grub mkconfig to /boot/grub and run the grub install without any arguments, it took everything automatically and updated the
[13:27] <jhan100> /boot/efi for me.
[13:28] <jhan100> Thank you !!
[13:30] <mra90> CQ one one of the machines it looks fine
[13:30] <mra90> but on the other the inet and netmask are both the same namely 255.255.255.0
[13:30] <mra90> is that ok?
[13:31] <mra90> I don't think so
[13:32] <mra90> ok I forgot the "netmaskl"
[13:32]  * mra90 needs a coffe
[13:33] <raboof> CQ: hmm, ALT-F1 doesn't seem to do anything on its own. CTRL+ALT+F1 followed by CTRL+ALT+F2 does briefly switch to text mode (empty screen with cursor). CTRL+ALT+F1 followed by CTRL+ALT+F7 shows 5 or so lines ending in '/dev/sda1: clean. xxx files, yyy blocks'
[13:34] <mra90> CQ it works! Thanks :)
[13:40] <mra90> CQ. btw would it be possible to send a file from a remote machine over httpd port?
[13:42] <ducasse> mra90: set up a small webserver to serve the file(s)
[13:42] <mra90> also if I have two machines physically connected with ip assigned how can I send files from one to another?
[13:42] <mra90> ducasse, thats' good idea thanks
[13:42] <ducasse> try scp
[13:43] <mra90> yeah let me try
[13:43] <ducasse> if you have ssh access, scp will work
[13:43] <mra90> but I have setup scp server first
[13:43] <mra90> right?
[13:43] <mra90> have to
[13:43] <ducasse> if sshd is running, that's all you need
[13:44] <ducasse> then make sure the user you log in as has access to the file
[13:45] <ducasse> 'scp user@host:/path/to/file .'
[13:48] <mra90> ducasse, connection refused
[13:50] <ducasse> then sshd is not running
[13:51] <mra90> it works in the reverse diorection though
[13:54] <CQ> mra90, can you ping in both directions?
[13:55] <mra90> sure
[13:55] <CQ> and ssh works one way and not the other?
[13:56] <mra90> scp rather
[13:56] <leftyfb> then that means sshd isn't running on one machine. You only need it on one, not both
[13:56] <mra90> I can copy  only in one direction
[13:56] <leftyfb> mra90: you can copy files to or from
[13:56] <CQ> https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-enable-ssh-on-ubuntu-20-04/
[13:57] <CQ> mra90, or what leftyfb says
[13:57] <mra90> leftyfb, for copying in both direction sshd must be running on each one right?
[13:57] <leftyfb> mra90: negative
[13:57] <CQ> mra90, if you can copy in one direction you can do both... its scp source destination ... you can flip the source and destination to go the other way
[13:57] <leftyfb> mra90: scp local-file user@remote.ip:/path/to/remotefile     scp user@remote.ip:/path/to/remotefile /path/to/localfile
[13:57] <CQ> do it from the machine where it works
[13:58] <leftyfb> mra90: I would suggest looking into rsync though
[13:58] <leftyfb> as opposed to scp
[13:59] <leftyfb> mra90: https://www.tecmint.com/rsync-local-remote-file-synchronization-commands/      scroll down to "2. Copy/Sync Files and Directory to or From a Server"
[14:00] <mra90> I also can't ssh into the machine
[14:01] <mra90> connection refused again
[14:01] <leftyfb> mra90: ssh the other way
[14:01] <mra90> yes tthen it works
[14:02] <leftyfb> you only need ssh in 1 direction to copy files back and forth
[14:02] <mra90> so one direction has a problem
[14:02] <leftyfb> that's fine
[14:02] <mra90> I know but I am just curious why it fails
[14:02] <leftyfb> mra90: because you don't have an ssh server installed on the other machine
[14:03] <mra90> on the one I try to connect from or to?
[14:03] <leftyfb> mra90: you were taught all this exact same stuff over a year ago
[14:04] <mra90> really? You must have superb memory
[14:04] <leftyfb> mra90: if you're getting connection refused trying to ssh from machine A to machine B, then machine B doesn't have sshd installed and/or running
[14:04] <leftyfb> mra90: I have logs
[14:04] <mra90> hah cool :)
[14:05] <mra90> yes this is sth I had problems in the past I recall but I this stuff once is working you don't think about it anymore
[14:05] <mra90> now I have some new machines and it came back again
[14:10] <slyjester> Suddenly noticing audio stuttering using chrome and firefox. Trying to isolate the issue but its sporadic. CPU temps are fine and load is fine. Looking at syslogs.
[14:14] <oft_gegong> what's the command to show cool hardware/system information output over the command-line/terminal/console?
[14:14] <ducasse> oft_gegong: try inxi
[14:15] <leftyfb> lshw
[14:15] <slyjester> neofetch?
[14:19] <slyjester> Hmm. It seems like DRM content might be causing my stuttering problems. Anyone experience this?
[14:19] <leftyfb> neofetch is a toy . Not very good for useful hardware information
[14:20] <slyjester> "cool" made me think neofetch
[14:40] <oft_gegong> ducasse, thanks inxi was 90% of what I was looking for
[14:41] <oft_gegong> but to get 100%, what's that command that shows your system's logo with the hardware information?
[14:42] <slyjester> oft did you try neofetch?
[14:42] <oft_gegong> oooooooooh it is neofetch
[14:42] <oft_gegong> hmmm
[14:42] <slyjester> boom
[14:43] <oft_gegong> now I don't want to get it because inxi does everything I need lol
[14:43] <slyjester> People usually use neofetch when showing off their setup on reddit
[14:44] <oft_gegong> exactly! it's cool to show off your desktop/setup
[14:44] <slyjester> Yeah I figured that's what you were thinking
[15:01] <TheMetaphysicist> Good morning, all!
[15:01] <oft_gegong> The The The THe The ThE THEE TheMetaphysicist is HERE :D
[15:01] <mra90> CQ, are you still around?
[15:01] <TheMetaphysicist> I hope everyone is having a wonderful Saturday.
[15:01] <d0ub1ew> Hello World! ;D
[15:02] <TheMetaphysicist> I have a question for you all! For Budgie, is there a way to have your "Start Menu" scroll vertically instead of horizontally?
[15:02] <mra90> the local connection over ethernet disconnects after a while with "authentication error",
[15:02] <mra90> wwhat might be wrong?
[15:04] <TheMetaphysicist> Ive been taking a look with Google and apparently my Google-fu isnt that great, as I cannot find that answer.
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> TheMetaphysicist: if you dont know the answer please remain silent tnx
[15:05] <TheMetaphysicist> Yeah, no.
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> volunteers will answer when they know : )
[15:23] <slyjester> voluntold
[17:37] <CQ> hello, I just upgraded to focal, and now I don't get a login screen, just the cursor. I can get to a console, the system seems to run fine. I reinstalled lightdm and xubuntu-desktop, but no chnage. Any ideas?
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> CQ: does apt give errors on tty?
[17:40] <CQ> lotuspsychje, nope, all looks good
[17:41] <CQ> lightdm is the only dm installed (no gdm)
[17:41] <CQ> dpkg -l
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> CQ: what about errors when you hit F1 to switch to textboot, before login, notice any weirdness there?
[17:42] <CQ> lotuspsychje, sec, let me reinstall the guest additions, its a vbox VM
[17:44] <CQ> lotuspsychje, works now... was either the guest additions, or a wrong video adapter in the VBox settings
[17:53] <xleng> Hi, does somehave have any recommendation on a mini-itx mainboard, with onboard cpu (ideally passively cooled), which is linux compatible? Asrock is building many which I like for its hardware conf, but I read many reports of linux not booting (no clue if this is true)?
[17:55] <lotuspsychje> !hardware | xleng start here (for ubuntu)
[18:03] <xleng> Thanks for your quick help!
[18:27] <mrstrange> hello guys since my move to 20.04 im having issues with my terminal on the server
[18:27] <mrstrange> https://imgur.com/a/ZZ1Wlp2 it looks like that when i login from my laptop when i logged on to the server when it was on 18.04 all looked fine
[18:28] <mrstrange> nothing changed on laptop terminal settings or anything so there must be something different on server since 20.04 any suggestions?
[18:32] <flying_sausages> Hey, anyone got tips on how to catch non-interactive apt installs, when I'm using the "confold" and "confdef" options, so that I can trigger an alert that there is a possible configuration conflict that might happen _after_ the new version was installed?
[18:33] <flying_sausages> I'm redirecting the output of apt and 2>&1 too, so whenever I have an interactive prompt the whole script freezes up
[18:33] <flying_sausages> so to prevent it I use the dpkg options above but I'm just worried that sometimes old configs won't work so I want to tell the end-user to check it themselves
[18:34] <flying_sausages> If there's a way to log the output to a file and keep the interactive behaviour that works too essentially
[18:35] <EriC^^> flying_sausages: using 'tee' maybe?
[18:38] <flying_sausages> hmmm I'll give that a shot, curious what it will do
[18:38] <flying_sausages> any suggestions for some test case to be able to test this?
[18:39] <EriC^^> flying_sausages: you could always force one with dpkg-reconfigure <something>
[18:39] <EriC^^> maybe tripwire package lots of configing there
[18:40] <tomreyn> https://askubuntu.com/questions/972516/debian-frontend-environment-variable
[18:42] <tomreyn> is the default approach for preventing prompts. you could then either parse the log or find dpkg-old and ucf-old (or -new) files to identify where a diff exists.
[18:50] <flying_sausages> yeah that's my intention. I'll have to weigh the options when I'm on a more stable connection because my apt sources are timing out all the time
[18:55] <nbusrone> anyone know what is api key ?
[18:55] <nbusrone> on chromium browser ?
[18:56] <flying_sausages> that's a very broad questio
[18:57] <flying_sausages> I'm assuming it's the API key to make chromium work with google services
[18:57] <nbusrone> flying_sausages : I am getting this api problem after I install chromium browser https://www.chromium.org/developers/how-tos/api-keys
[18:58] <nbusrone> flying_sausages : how to remove the warning everytime i start chromium browser ?
[19:00] <nbusrone> just want to disable the info bar
[19:00] <oerheks> does this happen with the chromium-browser snap?
[19:01] <oerheks> else, that page gives info about renewal api keys
[19:02] <Sven_vB> do we have an apt-packaged version of firmware blob rtlwifi/rtl8188eufw.bin for focal?
[19:02] <Sven_vB> I'd have expected https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/firmware-realtek but nope
[19:02] <oerheks> no, fwupdate is the tool for that?
[19:03] <Sven_vB> oh ok
[19:03] <Sven_vB> thanks!
[19:03] <oerheks> :-)
[19:03] <flying_sausages> nbusrone, check #chromium maybe
[19:03] <nbusrone> oerheks : just happen to chromium browser
[19:05] <flying_sausages> or maybe more like #chromium-support
[19:05] <nbusrone> flying_sausages : thanks , I did some search but worry if I add this line "-test-type" any dangerous warning on website will get disable.
[19:05] <flying_sausages> I use firefox buddy :)
[19:06] <nbusrone> flying_sausages : I am having high cpu usage on firefox watch youtube on 1080p
[19:06] <flying_sausages> that makes sense
[19:06] <Sven_vB> fwupd is a daemon, can't I just have a cron task that checks and updates firmware every other day at some time?
[19:07] <nbusrone> flying_sausages : what is your cpu usage ? youe distro ? as for me 18.04 , htop show 40% for firefox 1080p
[19:07] <nbusrone> oerheks : i remove snap since , someone suggest install from repo
[19:08] <HappyHotDog> hey all, I'm using ZSH on my machine and I'm trying to SSH into a server but when I connect, it doesn't show user@hostname and it makes it quite confusing. Have tried a few things but wondering if anyone has any idea on how to display it when using SSH?
[19:08] <oerheks> Sven_vB, if it is not available, build from git? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1170202/how-to-install-rtl8188eus-driver-on-ubuntu-18-04
[19:08] <flying_sausages> HappyHotDog, check your .zshrc
[19:09] <flying_sausages> you can use something like oh-my-zsh or prezto to theme up and extend your zsh and change it to whatever you want
[19:09] <nbusrone> oerheks : after I install from repo chromium browser I found out the current repo having bug on youtube which gives me a black line on a middle of the screen .
[19:09] <flying_sausages> nbusrone, I barely watch yt, you should check #firefox probably haha but I know hw decoding has been an issue for a long time
[19:10] <nbusrone> oerheks : https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/48447489?hl=en , the version is having bug so rather than waiting ubuntu to release a newer version i get another version from ppa
[19:10] <HappyHotDog> flying_sausages, I have and I do use oh-my-zsh and it works fine when using the shell on my machine, but when SSH'd in there's nothing. Have tried a few things in the .zshrc but no luck
[19:10] <flying_sausages> It is best to check with the respective channel for the app rather than the distribution
[19:10] <oerheks> chrome is not chromium.
[19:11] <oerheks> and such bugreport without hardware specs and drivers used..
[19:11] <nbusrone> flying_sausages : I download a hardware rending from a ppa following this guide , they have firefox too https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/08/how-to-enable-hardware-accelerated.htmlhttps://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/08/how-to-enable-hardware-accelerated.html
[19:12] <nbusrone> oerheks : still the browser having black line on the version on repo even chrome and vivid also having this issue.I am sure ubuntu repo will take months to release a new version .
[19:13] <Sven_vB> oerheks, yeah that would be a fallback option. I had hoped we'd have something like the "ubuntu-drivers" program from ubuntu-drivers-common for the realtek firmware as well.
[19:16] <nbusrone> oerheks : the fix is to turn the zoom option back to 100% which too small for the fonts on the webpage and with high cpu usage on repo without hardware acceleration on gpu.
[19:43] <yolan> Hello, does someone know why I don't have emoji support in my IDE? (ubuntu 20.04)
[20:21] <PeGaSuS> hello guys. I'm using an application that has an issue (IRC client not synching the userlist). I know the faulty builds started after January 9th. is it possible to install an earlier version of said application, overriding the last ones? afaik, there wasn't been any significant change related to database and stuff like that
[20:53] <nbusrone> hi again , oerheks , can you teach me how to install from github ? source code , configuration and make file guide ?
[20:58] <speckz> Hi! On Ubuntu 20.04 LTS server, is it possible to run the server installer again from ssh?
[20:58] <M_aD> nbusrone, https://guides.github.com/
[20:58] <krytarik> PeGaSuS: Go to <https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/packagename> and then on the right side either to the publishing history or the changelog, there you'll also find old built packages.
[20:58] <M_aD> PeGaSuS, which IRC client?
[20:59] <krytarik> Yeah, was curious about that too.
[20:59] <M_aD> :)
[21:00] <cnnx> how come I dont have a list of icons on the left hadn side of my ubuntu 20 desktop? i dont even have an appearance option under settings
[21:00] <cnnx> i want to dock my terminal icon
[21:00] <cnnx> to create new shells
[21:02] <PeGaSuS> krytarik: thanks. unfortunately seems that the published files are deleted as soon as a new build is done
[21:03] <nbusrone> M_aD : but which of it show how to download and install an application source code from github ? it only mention how to develop and contributing but which section mentioning installing application from github ?
[21:03] <M_aD> PeGaSuS, that still doesn't answer our second question :)
[21:04] <M_aD> nbusrone, try to google it, i never installed anything from github before
[21:05] <PeGaSuS> nbusrone: you probably want to git clone the repository and then follow the installation instructions
[21:08] <cnnx> found it
[21:08] <PeGaSuS> M_aD: the IRC client in this specific case, is Quassel. unfortunately, seems I'd need to build from source if I want to go back in time, which I don't want to do
[21:08] <nbusrone> PeGaSuS : that is something I want to clone and install which i read up but there is no clear instruction on doing so or maybe i didn't search deeper.Any tutorial ?
[21:09] <nbusrone> PeGaSuS : I just want to install a brightness control at github https://github.com/Ablinne/kolorcontrol
[21:10] <PeGaSuS> nbusrone: do you have git installed (apt install git)?
[21:11] <krytarik> PeGaSuS: What version is the last one that didn't have that issue then?  Also, on what version of Ubuntu are you?  And is there a bug filed about this yet?
[21:12] <PeGaSuS> krytarik: I'm using a PPA, so this doesn't affect the default packaged app. I'm running Ubuntu Eoan (19.10), upgrade planned for the next few days
[21:13] <M_aD> why use a PPA if Quassel is in the repo's? Just to get the latest?
[21:13] <PeGaSuS> the Quassel team is aware of the issue, but w still need for it to be fixed. the last known build to not have problems was in January 8th
[21:14] <PeGaSuS> M_aD: several reasons. one of them is to find bugs and report them back. I do that often in most of the applications I use
[21:14] <nbusrone> PeGaSuS : yes
[21:14] <M_aD> PeGaSuS, aha, i see. that's great. :)
[21:14] <PeGaSuS> then, on the repository, at the right there should be a green button with the word `Code`. click there and click in the `Copy` button (looks like a notebook)
[21:14] <PeGaSuS> nbusrone: ^
[21:15] <PeGaSuS> nbusrone: then `git clone URL`
[21:16] <nbusrone> PeGaSuS : next what should I do after copy the url ? https://github.com/Ablinne/kolorcontrol.git
[21:16] <PeGaSuS> M_aD: because I don't really care about stability most of time, it's helpful for the devs to have some `crazy guy` that likes to test the bleeding edge code
[21:16] <nbusrone> sorry new bie
[21:17] <PeGaSuS> nbusrone: then, just type `git clone URL` in your terminal
[21:17] <krytarik> PeGaSuS: And yeah, I just checked the PPA you are likely using, and indeed as opposed to the official builds getting old built packages there isn't possible once superseded.
[21:17] <PeGaSuS>  nbusrone: then, `cd kolorcontrol` and follow the installation instructions
[21:18] <PeGaSuS> krytarik: yeah.. well, I can live with this though
[21:18] <PeGaSuS> xD
[21:19] <M_aD> nbusrone, wouldn't it be better to ask in #git  ?
[21:19] <PeGaSuS> I might be wrong, but doesn't Ubuntu stores the Deb packages somewhere after a upgrade/update of an app?
[21:20] <TJ-> PeGaSuS: /var/cache/apt/archives
[21:21] <nbusrone> M_aD : most are user are inactive , i don't know how long i need to wait since my adsl internet also get disconnected from time to time unstable.
[21:23] <PeGaSuS> uh.. seems that PPA's aren't stored there?
[21:23] <M_aD> nbusrone, hmmm. Ok, just asking because this channel is for support with Ubuntu after all and a bit offtopic.
[21:24] <nbusrone> M_aD : sorry , but next what should I do after i clone the git and cd to the directory ?
[21:24] <M_aD> nbusrone, i don't know
[21:24] <PeGaSuS> nbusrone: you should ask in a better suited channel, like #git
[21:25] <PeGaSuS> although I've already provided you the answer more than once..
[21:25] <M_aD> or ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:25] <PeGaSuS> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[21:25] <nbusrone> PeGaSuS ,  I will ask there thanks :)
[21:25] <M_aD> heh?
[21:26] <TJ-> PeGaSuS: all packages fetched by apt will pass through the cache, but age and size is controlled by /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20archive
[21:27] <M_aD> nbusrone, i said to ask in #git and you said that most users are inactive, now PeGaSuS suggests it and you go ask there? doesn't make sense to me
[21:27] <M_aD> :)
[21:29] <jeremy31> nbusrone: The instructions on the github.com page don't work?
[21:29] <jeremy31> It hasn't been updated in 2 years
[21:29] <PeGaSuS> TJ-: is it weird that I don't have that file?
[21:30] <TJ-> PeGaSuS: comes from the package update-notifier-common
[21:30] <nbusrone> M_aD : though of a few step will fix it but  you and PeGaSuS provide answer more than once , so it more appropriate for me to ask there . sorry guys.
[21:31] <M_aD> np
[21:32] <PeGaSuS> TJ-: well, I didn't had that package installed, but I've just installed it now. I'll take a look at it then. thanks for the heads up
[21:37] <phunyguy> Is it possible to make a snap package depend on a systemd unit being started?
[21:38] <oerheks> phunyguy, please reask in #snappy ?
[21:39] <phunyguy> good call.
[22:16] <davido_> Hi. I'm wondering why I seem to be stuck at 5.4.0-37-generic (Ubuntu 20.04) for a couple weeks now on my laptop when my desktop system is on 5.4.0-40-generic
[22:28] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic focal
[22:29] <Bashing-om> davido_: What results from the laptop from terminal commands: ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade '?
[22:34] <davido_> Bashing-om : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5S5T2nNHZY/
[22:37] <Bashing-om> davido_: So far - so good maybe, as "packagecloud.io/slacktechnologies/slack/debian jessie" makes me crindge. Upgrade result ?
[22:39] <davido_> Slack probably has a focal release by now.  Ok so result: uname -r: 5.4.0-37-generic
[22:45] <davido_> Alright I've removed the outdated slack source. Naturally that didn't change much.
[22:47] <Bashing-om> davido_: So the question that you need to persue is slack-desktop for jessie holding the kernel at version 5.4.0-37 ? As I do not have any familiarity with slack I do not have any idea how to check.
[22:48] <Bashing-om> davido_: Outdated ? "pushed by felixrieseberg 10 days ago" this the source you had ?
[22:48] <davido_> By outdated I just meant targeting an earlier ubuntu
[22:53] <Bashing-om> davido_: Booting 5.4.0-37 does not mean that the latest ubuntu kerenl is not there - what shows ' ls -al /boot/ ' ?
[22:58] <davido_> I'll be back in a few. sorry to leave you hanging.
[23:03] <davido_> Ok, the associated entries weren't present in /boot either. I ended up sudo apt install linux-image-5.4.0-40-generic, then a full update and upgrade, reboot, and i'm on 5.4.0-40 now.
[23:09] <Bashing-om> davido_: :D - All is well that ends well.
[23:09] <davido_> Thanks for your effort. :)
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[23:46] <oft_gegong> you guys I love my ubuntu. But I wish it could make me a billionaire and gave me 6 wives