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FutureRichhello, it is ok to use 8GB ram with new ubuntu?00:35
M_aDFutureRich: 8Gb is sufficient enough00:37
M_aDFutureRich: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#Recommended_Minimum_System_Requirements00:38
FutureRichthanks how can i know my cpu?00:58
Bashing-omFutureRich: It is unclear what you ask - Can you restate the question, please.01:00
FutureRichcpu info?01:01
M_aDFutureRich: lscpu01:01
FutureRichmy cpu is only 'Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-6100U CPU @ 2.30GHz'. then it is too late?01:02
M_aDno, it's good enough to use Ubuntu with01:02
FutureRichah01:03
FutureRichvery good01:03
DrKK`i3-6100 is a very nice CPU.01:15
FutureRichit is not i3-6100 but i3-6100u01:15
DrKK`oooooooooooooooooooooooooooh01:15
DrKK`right01:15
M_aDFutureRich: the link i gave are just the recommended minimum requirements to run ubuntu on, so you're fine.01:16
FutureRichthanks it is better to upgrade ram to 16GB?01:16
M_aDFutureRich: as i said 8GB is sufficient enough and together with the CPU Ubuntu will run fine. Again, you're good to go with those specs....01:18
FutureRichthanks M_aD :)01:18
M_aDjust install ubuntu if you haven't done so already01:19
FutureRichi installed new ubuntu already01:19
M_aDand you're welcome :)01:19
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M_aDwell then, have fun with it01:19
FutureRichthanks01:20
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Hammerhead2010HI all, I have had this problem for years and have just decided to see if any else has it, while using SCP from the command line if at any point I hit the tab key, like to tab complete a path, the command line freezes for say 3-4 minutes. Left alone it will come back but take its sweet time. Anyone else?02:25
masonHammerhead2010: DNS issue.02:26
masonHammerhead2010: Should only be a minute in the worst case, though.02:26
Hammerhead2010If it were a cisco router I would agree, how do you know that?02:27
Hammerhead2010I guess I could strace scp but other than that..02:27
masonHammerhead2010: Ask yourself what's happening when you tab complete.02:27
masonAnd sure, strace would probably highlight it pretty well.02:27
Hammerhead2010I am getting a blank stare from my self. jk I would assume it's was trying to find the path??02:28
masonNote that you want to strace your shell, not scp.02:28
Hammerhead2010complete the path02:29
masonHammerhead2010: Right, but tab completion includes hosts.02:29
Hammerhead2010I will give that a shot and see what happens. Thanks Mason.02:29
masonI mean, maybe really marginal storage could do the same thing, but that wouldn't be your only symptom.02:29
masonHammerhead2010: Sure thing. Also, FWIW, maybe zap bash-completion and start a new shell, and see if it *doesn't* happen there.02:30
Hammerhead2010even better, could try zsh or any of the others.02:30
masonIf it's DNS look-ups from hostname completion that might not matter.02:30
masonHammerhead2010: You can also maybe set aside your known_hosts file, as I think that's a source it uses to look up completions. Just guessing there.02:31
masonHammerhead2010: If it's not DNS, I'd be curious to know what it was if you solve it.02:31
tatertotsHammerhead2010: simple to rule that out....are you using ssh/scp with a IP or a name03:43
tatertotsHammerhead2010: ?03:43
tatertotsHammerhead2010: does it happen when using IP address?03:44
luiserebiiHello, around two weeks ago, my screen brightness stopped working on Ubuntu 20.04, as in, I can adjust the bar, but the screen doesn't change. Also, GNOME Night Light stopped working, I'm willing to be they're the same issue. Has anyone faced something similar?03:50
lotuspsychjeluiserebii: wich kernel version please?03:52
masontatertots: scp will tab complete hostnames even if you haven't done anything to indicate one yet03:53
luiserebiilotuspsychke: I think it's 5.4.0-40-generic, based on `uname -r`03:53
luiserebii*lotuspsychje, sorry03:53
masontatertots: Experiment: scp .bashrc and hit tab a couple times, and examine the list.03:54
masonNot sure this should actually do lookups, of course, but random pauses are almost always DNS somewhere along the line.03:55
lotuspsychjeluiserebii: did you have this on previous kernels too?03:55
luiserebiiI'm not sure; since I freshly installed 20.04, I haven't been aware if the kernel has updated, before when I was on 16.04, I think this had happened, but I had fixed it by reinstalling my graphics drivers, I think. I tried to do reinstall the graphics drivers this time around also, but it doesn't seem to have worked, though I can try it again03:57
lotuspsychjeluiserebii: could you pastebin your dmesg plz?04:07
luiserebiilotuspsychje: sure https://pastebin.com/Ui2Hbzgy04:10
lotuspsychjeluiserebii: ah, your secureboot is enabled, this can influence hardware in some cases, could you try booting with secureboot disabled please?04:12
luiserebiiSure, I will disable it and return to see what happens then04:13
lotuspsychjeluiserebii: tnx04:13
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luiserebiilotuspsychje: wow. I'm so confused. I disabled Secure Boot, booted back in, and yes, the problem has corrected itself. I can modify screen brightness, Night Light is working, and some other software that was broken before is working now.04:21
luiserebiiI don't know if these details help, but there is something else that changed when this behavior started happening04:21
lotuspsychjeluiserebii: glad it worked out04:21
lotuspsychjeluiserebii: you can check your new dmesg if you like, after secureboot=off mostly it straights problems out04:22
luiserebiiI have a triple-boot setup, and two of the OS installations are Ubuntu, and they also happened to swap places in GRUB04:22
luiserebiiI see04:22
luiserebiiDo you have any ideas as to why the other Ubuntu install works perfectly with Secure Boot on? (it was really just one of them that started having this issue)04:23
lotuspsychjeluiserebii: well it really depends on the hardware combo too, with a locked kernel, things can lock in some cases04:26
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luiserebiilotuspsychje: hmmm, ok, I think I understand. The other install would fail to come back if I closed the laptop lid and reopened it later, I guess from hibernation, do you think this might have been related? I'm tempted to go check to see if it works now haha04:27
lotuspsychjeluiserebii: well, hibernate issues can also come from another corner too, aka ACPI problems04:28
lotuspsychje!acpi | luiserebii04:28
ubottuluiserebii: to debug ACPI issues on ubuntu make sure your bios is up to date and follow the procedure here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI04:28
lotuspsychjeluiserebii: for example your dmesg shows your asus bios is from 2015, its always wise to check if your bios is up to date to latest to avoid acpi problems04:29
luiserebiilotuspsychje: thank you for the link, this really helps, I'll look at it04:30
lotuspsychjewelcome luiserebii04:31
luiserebiilotuspsychje: It might have had something to do with the strange way I set things up: the first install (the one I'm currently on that just had the issue), when installing, I had selected the simpler option of just installing Ubuntu alongside with Windows. When I decided to make the second installation, I shrunk that partition down and manually made three paritions after it; /, one for swap, and /home, and installed the second04:32
luiserebiithere. I figured this might be a useful detail to maybe mention; did I botch that installation somehow? I regret not manually making those partitions, since I'm not sure how the simpler option works04:33
lotuspsychjeluiserebii: oh well for dualboot layouts im not your man, you might talk to EriC^^ our uefi wzard :p04:35
luiserebiilotuspsychje: Ahhh, ok. I wish I knew more about these topics, not sure how to learn more. I will test things out and check out the link soon! Thank you again :D04:37
lotuspsychje!uefi | luiserebii for dualboot04:39
ubottuluiserebii for dualboot: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI04:39
luiserebiilotuspsychje: Ahhh, thanks, I will read this also!04:40
bloodfartMy SD card is not detected, even when it is plugged in. It got corrupted really badly when my os crashed on it. It doesn't even show it exists when I run lsblk. Are there tools for ubuntu that can fix it?04:56
lotuspsychjebloodfart: journalctl -f and plug in your sd, the pastebin us the errors please05:00
parsnipwhy doesn't `apt-get build-dep weechat` install libgcrypt20-dev, etc.05:01
parsniphow do i get all those -dev stuff automagically, like more of a neat one-liner?05:02
parsnipgreetings, by the way.05:02
bloodfartlotuspsychje: Okay, will do05:06
bloodfartDamn I thought that would of worked..05:07
bloodfartI was reading a forum after I pasted this "mmc1: error -110 whilst initialising SD card" it is still being detected...05:33
bloodfartThis is what my sd card is doing https://pastebin.com/MiSZ6vaH06:19
b100shi2all; in case of having 3 and more language inputs, how can I set up hotkey to switch only betwen two last used? example for macos: https://askubuntu.com/questions/871678/how-can-i-quickly-switch-between-two-out-of-multiple-languages06:32
[Pokey]Heyo, is there any way I would be able to copy my Windows color calibration profiles over to Ubuntu?08:33
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joufflusup nerds09:12
nbusroneMay I know how to add a customize right click arrow to show "open with other application" like older ubuntu release to new 18.04 or 20.04 ? Some photo image having mulitiple application to open rather than choosing with open application , I would like to have a arrow and drop down list to choose.09:17
jouffluso i installed 20.04 with the experimental ZFS... anything I should know09:18
nbusroneDoes anyone understand my question ?09:22
nbusroneAn example : I need to open with other application on a file https://i.imgur.com/BMjPjUA.jpg but on previous older version https://i.imgur.com/RhgEczQ.jpg I can "open with" arrow and choose the application I wanted . How to customize it to return the arrow to for choosing ?09:26
_crows12_cd ..09:30
nbusroneIt looks like nemo able to do the job09:49
CoDeAmRohey guys i have 3 questions and i need an answer please10:00
CoDeAmRo1. i have Intel® HD Graphics 400 (BSW) how can i increase vram for gaming on my ubuntu10:03
CoDeAmRo2. how can i install epsxe 32 bit playstation emulator on my ubuntu10:05
CoDeAmRo3. when i insert a usb stick on my ubuntu laptop it wont open but it opens normally on windows machine10:07
nbusroneCoDeAmRo : your order is wrong , you should install epsxe first at the set your vram at epsxe.3 terminal "lsusb" to see whether your usb is detected10:14
iseneOn Ubuntu (20.04) - what VIM package to install to have both clipboard functioning with X, +Ruby and +Python?10:33
nbusroneIf anyone know some graphic design or photo editing , I hope someone can explain those gamma brightness and contrast since I can't find any answer on google.10:34
nbusroneReally no one active at this time ?10:40
Boiello10:41
Boilove ubuntu10:43
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tomreynnbusrone: if your questions are generic regarding graphic design and photo editing (they seem to be), I'd recommend using !alis to find a more suitable place to ask the questions. there is always a chance you'll find one about the very application you're using.10:59
tomreyn!alis | nbusrone10:59
ubottunbusrone: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"10:59
tomreynhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_correction and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrast_(vision) seem related to your topic, if just remotely to your operating system.11:03
Boianyone know how to create a windows iso via terminal11:05
tomreynBoi: are you asking how to create a bootable windows 10 installer from an .iso file provided by Microsoft? woeusb (not in ubuntu) is supposed to support this.11:10
Boiyes bro i am11:11
Boii need to add redhat drivers to it11:11
tomreynnot a bro here, this is a smelly pink unicorn11:11
Boifml11:11
Boiserver 1911:11
tomreynthis sounds like either a windows or a redhat question, while this channel is called #ubuntu11:12
Boii prefer ubuntu tho11:12
Boiive got 3 ubuntu servers11:12
Boirip 18 y u fk up mail n shit11:12
guivercBoi, please grow up11:13
Boii cant im 2411:13
BoiI am very serious about this ISO.11:13
BoiThis ISO means the world to me.11:14
BoiExchange looks like a wonderful software that I would love to install on a Windows Sevrer.11:14
BoiServer.*11:14
tomreynthen it should help that you got a serious answer. no need to discuss it to length, here, though.11:14
Boidestroyed11:15
gurkiBoi: why would you need a redhat driver during setup?11:15
gurkistorage drivers can be added via some usb stick during setups, everything else can be added after setup is complete11:15
Boicloud services my friend11:15
gurkithats not answering my question11:16
Boii need virtio drivers because its a redhat kvm11:16
Boibut i am in hospital11:16
gurkiso add them during setup?!11:16
Boiand the internet is evil11:16
gurkiyou dont need to include them into the iso11:16
gurki(you technically could, but its a lot more complicated)11:17
tomreyn!offtopic | Boi gurki11:17
ubottuBoi gurki: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!11:17
Boii tried a program, the file is too large11:17
gurkii have to agree this is neither ##windwos nor ##windows-server *g*11:17
Boi5gb11:17
Boi*g*11:17
Boibrb need this smoke11:18
mra90I have connected two linux machines via crosover ethernet cable, assigned IPs on both ends and it sort of work, however sometimes IP assignemt gets removed and in the same time I can see a pop up message "Authentication failed"11:20
mra90how can I disable this authentication?11:20
Boijesus christ11:25
tomreynthis person doesn't seem to be around.11:25
tomreynmra90: can you show a screenshot of the pop up message? which ubuntu release is this, which software / frontend did you use to configure the network interface? does the message popo up on both systems?11:27
elias_aYes, quite other channels. Kick Boi away.11:28
Boi:/11:29
mra90I shows up for a short while only and then IP is removed. One machine is ubuntu second is chromeOS terminal mode11:29
mra90so tomreyn it shows only on ubuntu since second machine is in terminal mode11:29
mra90but IP is removed on that other machine11:30
mra90how to disable authentication from command line?11:30
nbusronetomreyn : sorry for late reply11:30
nbusronetomreyn : my question is about xrandr11:31
nbusronetomreyn : before this i need to know about gamma and brightness setting11:31
nbusronetomreyn : I hope you can have a look.11:31
nbusronetomreyn : At the image,https://i.imgur.com/2TFGdhP.jpg on nvidia setting ,11:32
nbusroneWhen I lower the Birhgtness to -50 https://i.imgur.com/FfCPFhJ.jpg and -1 value https://i.imgur.com/2TFGdhP.jpg of the Nvidia setting graph line lower top and bottom equaly but when I lower the brightness , the graph line only gets lower at the top and not equal.https://i.imgur.com/xoO4mTz.jpg and reduce to none https://i.imgur.com/9q7ofeI.jpg only flatten the graph compare to nvidia setting.11:32
nbusroneMay I know what is the reason behind ? what is the different ? I need some photo expert to explain.Thanks11:32
tomreynmra90: it's not clear what kind of authentication is being used, this is why i suggested posting the screenshot and discussing how you configured the network interface on ubuntu11:35
mra90tomreyn, but this popup message doesn't say what authentication is it11:36
mra90it just says "authentication failed"11:36
tomreynmra90: if, for example, you used the network-manager GUI to configure the network interface - there's a tab for configuring authentication there, i think.11:36
mra90ifconfig ETH_NAME_HERE 10.0.0.X netmask 255.255.255.011:36
mra90tomreyn, ^ this is how I configured it11:36
mra90X is 1 or 2 depending on machine11:37
tomreynnbusrone: i don't think i can help there, haven't used this software (nvidia x settings) before11:39
tomreynmra90: which ubuntu version is this?   lsb_release -ds11:40
tomreynmra90: do you run a graphical desktop on the ubuntu system?11:41
mra9018,04,4 LTS11:41
mra90tomreyn, yes11:41
tomreynmra90: open the network configuration screens for this network interface, and go to where you can edit the ip address.11:42
mra90yes I am there now11:42
mra90security is OFF11:42
tomreynmra90: are you on a window with tabs and the current tzab is "identity"?11:42
tomreynokay, that would have been my next question11:42
mra90yes is there anything I can in "Identity" tab?11:43
tomreynso 802.1x Security is off on the Security tab, right?11:43
mra90yes11:43
mra90the question is if it is ON on the other machine11:43
mra90but there I have only terminal11:44
tomreynprobably not, but then i don't know this other OS.11:44
nbusronetomreyn : yeh , if you remember i am able to find and set xrandr brightness perment but but only brightness are being set , and it looks awful which like contrast is missing , worry i messing up i though of finding the real reason behind nvidia color graph line.As for contrast using xcalib but i worry i get mess with the integer number.11:44
mra90its linux11:44
mra90so I need some command to check it11:44
tomreynmra90: it'S a linux derivate, yes. not one supported in #ubuntu, though, but it may have its own channel you could find with !alis11:45
mra90they don't11:45
mra90and I think this part is common for all linux derivatioves11:45
tomreynthere's also ##linux, may be worth a try11:45
nbusronetomreyn : is there a nvidia channel around here ?11:46
tomreyni think they key to solving this problem is looking at your logs and understanding what (which software) pops up this 'authentication error/failed' message11:46
tomreynmra90: ^11:47
tomreynnbusrone: i don't know, have you asked alis about it?11:47
mra90sure11:47
mra90thanks tomreyn11:47
tomreynyou're welcome11:47
BluesKaj'Morning folks11:52
mra90tomreyn, sorry I mad a mistake11:56
mra90made*11:56
mra90the error message is because the external eth card disconnects on on end11:57
mra90it has nathing to do with authentication of any sort11:57
tomreynmra90: okay. so a screenshot could have helped there.11:59
tomreynglad you identified the problem, though12:00
fradsudo mkvmerge -o output-file.mkv --split parts:00:00:04-00:03:22 'a child'.mkv mkvmerge v48.0.0 ('Fortress Around Your Heart') 64-bit returns 'The file 'a child.mkv' could not be opened for reading: open file error. Is this a problem of mkvmerge or something else?12:05
nbusronetomreyn : thanks found #nvidia , hoping someone will reply :)12:08
artix_live_1sup12:10
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lotuspsychjeKaan: welcome, what can we do for you?12:11
Kaanmy bad, thought this was general chat :)12:11
kostkon!support12:12
ubottuThe official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com12:12
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[Pokey]Hi there, is there an EQ panel for 20.04?13:02
peter22222hi folks... on ubuntu 20.04, i have problems with the virtual printer "boomaga" .13:06
melehHello I have problem with installing matploitb, there is freetype2 which i installed through brew. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CVymJwYsTH/13:20
melehIt says it cant find - " freetype: no  [The C/C++ header for freetype2 (ft2build.h)                            could not be found.  You may need to install the                            development package.]"13:21
quemwhat's the most reliable dlna server out there? minidlna crashes too often these days for me.13:24
tomreynmeleh: see my reply in #xubuntu13:31
tomreyn!ask | peter2222213:31
ubottupeter22222: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience13:32
tomreyn!details | peter22222: sorry, this rather13:32
ubottupeter22222: sorry, this rather: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.13:32
peter22222ubottu tomreyn sorry guys.. ok.. boomaga is in official repos, version 3.0.0. I installed it and tried to add printer. The program works by itself fine, i can open pdf and rearrange.. but it is not possible to use it as a virtual printer any more as it worked before in ubuntu 18.04. I get error message: [Boomaga GUI] ERROR: Can't start boomaga gui.13:36
tomreynpeter22222: which ubuntu version are you running there?   lsb_release -ds13:39
peter22222ubuntu 20.0413:39
tomreynoh you wrote this before, sorry13:39
peter22222no problem  :-)13:39
tomreynpeter22222: this error message you get, is this printed on a temrinal or on the graphical desktop itself, as a separate window?13:40
peter22222tomreyn when i click print and select boomaga (after manually adding), nothing happens, so i went to printer GUI and there is this error message...13:43
tomreynpeter22222: hmm, i see. can you run "boomaga" from a terminal? and when you do, what does it report? copy + paste to https://paste.ubuntu.com and share the link here)13:51
peter22222tomreyn i can run it from gui launcher and from terminal, but it seems the CUPS is not allowed to start it if i print from e.g. libreoffice...13:55
peter22222tomreyn boomaga 2>&1 https://pastebin.com/QqghGxvp13:57
tomreynpeter22222: hmm, this *could* be apparmor related. if so, you'd see audit messages about it in system logs (journalctl -f    for logtail or journalctl -eb    to see what was logged rcently)14:10
tomreynpeter22222: other than that i'd check ubuntu's bug tracker, as well as the developers' own bug tracker about it.14:11
peter22222tomreyn... maybe waiting till ppa for focal is available and upgrading then14:11
peter22222thanks for your help :-)14:12
tomreynboomaga is a community maintained package - those are usually imported from debian (who also have a bug tracker you can check), and are not always as well maintained as packages in the ubuntu 'main' archive section14:12
tomreynpeter22222: this might also help identifying the source of the problem: https://github.com/Boomaga/boomaga/wiki/Debugging14:19
peter22222thank you tomreyn, i ll check that out14:20
peter22222W [12/Jul/2020:14:49:27 +0200] [Job 1822] [Boomaga GUI] WARNING: Can\'t read DBUS session direcory /var/spool/cups/tmp/.dbus/session-bus14:22
peter22222E [12/Jul/2020:14:49:27 +0200] [Job 1822] [Boomaga GUI] ERROR: Can\'t start boomaga gui.14:22
nbusroneAnyone using nvidia x server setting for brightness control ? did anyone set the brightness before ?14:24
lotuspsychjepeter22222: just tested it on 20.04, works like a charm on my side14:24
peter22222lotuspsychje did you print from libreoffice?14:24
lotuspsychjepeter22222: no, just tested launch14:25
peter22222lotuspsychje the program itself works, i can open pdfs with it and print it, but it doesnt work as a virtual printer (for printing from another program like libreoffice)14:26
lotuspsychjepeter22222: tell me the steps you are trying please?14:26
tomreynpeter22222: this bug report quotes the same error message, but i'm not sure it'll hel. it does seem like a bug in either the software itself or the way it is built for debian / ubuntu14:27
tomreynhttps://github.com/Boomaga/boomaga/issues/7914:27
tomreynhel -> help14:27
lotuspsychjenbusrone: are you still hunting that brightness bug you affected to?14:28
peter22222tomreyn very interesting link. i guess you are absolutely right14:29
nbusronelotuspsychje : yeh , it looks like at nvidia channel doesn't seem to respond so I would like to ask here where whether someone did a test on brightness issue.14:33
nbusronelotuspsychje : #nvidia , seems like no one is active currently.14:34
fradsudo mkvmerge -o output-file.mkv --split parts:00:00:04-00:03:22 'a child'.mkv mkvmerge v48.0.0 ('Fortress Around Your Heart') 64-bit returns 'The file 'a child.mkv' could not be opened for reading: open file error. Is this a problem of mkvmerge or something else?14:41
peter22222tomreyn i set cupsctl to debug-logging... i got this: https://pastebin.com/1nX8uHbm14:42
peter22222frad maybe try rename 'a child.mkv' to a_child.mkv14:49
shurdeekhello14:49
shurdeekI'm trying to boot the cloud image as a nfs root (and PXE). Unfortunately I don't know what cmdline parameters to use so that it works. The longer story is that I want to be able to run diskless clients with overlay root filesystem. I've been doing that by modifying the desktop iso image. This works, but it is difficult to automate deployment and customisation. I thought using cloud-init with the cloud image may be better, but the boot g14:52
shurdeekets stuck on initrd shell14:52
shurdeekI use ubuntu 18.0414:52
shurdeekhmm it looks like I had a typo and that's why it wasn't working ...15:01
nbusronelotuspsychje : everytime i set my lcd screen to turn off after idle 10 minutes , once i resume the brightness get reset.It consistent where the Kernel assign for color/brightness control overwrite the brightness control on nvidia driver.15:02
nbusronelotuspsychje : I am nstill newbie , I don't know what is the 18.04 kernel use for own brightness control.xbacklight ? and I found  xrandr command can set brightness.I really want someone to help to find which color control keep on overwrite nvidia control.There is no log to search for color control.15:05
nbusronelotuspsychje : I would like to ask , how to find birghtness control on the system log ? minimum I can find out which interferes with the nvidia setting.15:06
finnwwwWhy does the Ubuntu live USB have only 4GB of space? How am I supposed to install brunch on that?15:09
jeremy31finnwww: That might be RAM15:11
finnwwwAre you sure? How can I temporarily store things on my SD card?15:12
jeremy31finnwww: If you put an ISO on the USB without doing persistence, it will normally load into RAM15:20
finnwwwMm15:21
jessequinnhey guys, i am really struggling to get this to work on ubuntu 20 - i want to cronjob a backup of a folder and email it. i have the following  tar cvf - /wwwroot | gzip > /tmp/backup.tar.gz | uuencode /tmp/backup.tar.gz | mail -s "directory backup on $(date)" somemail@gmail.com it is sending a noname file of 33 bytes. basically not working. Any ideas how to get this to work?15:33
fradthanks peter2222215:36
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TJ-jessequinn: too many " | " pipes; you want some shell &&'s I think16:03
TJ-jessequinn: I suspect what you want is "tar cvf - /wwwroot | gzip > /tmp/backup.tar.gz && uuencode /tmp/backup.tar.gz | mail -s "directory backup on $(date)""16:04
TJ-jessequinn: or  "tar cvf - /wwwroot | gzip > |  uuencode | mail -s "directory backup on $(date)" " if you don't want a temporary file16:05
TJ-oops, typo!16:05
TJ-jessequinn: or  "tar cvf - /wwwroot | gzip |  uuencode | mail -s "directory backup on $(date)" " if you don't want a temporary file16:05
TJ-and another oops, gzip needs to know to use stdin/stdout16:06
TJ-jessequinn: or  "tar cvf - /wwwroot | gzip - |  uuencode | mail -s "directory backup on $(date)" " if you don't want a temporary file16:06
Elw3Hey, does anyone know why connecting to the internet calls apt-get automatically? I mean what file does this cause?16:08
jeremy31Elw3: check update frequency in Software and Updates16:09
jessequinn@TJ- let me test, thanks btw16:09
Elw3Uhrg, i removed every gui config tool already.16:10
TJ-Elw3: "grep . /etc/apt/apt.conf.d./*"16:10
jessequinnTJ- using "tar cvf - /wwwroot | gzip - | uuencode | mail -s "directory backup on $(date) someemail" sends no attachment16:11
TJ-jessequinn: try each part in turn in a "/bin/sh" shell and check if uuencode is spitting out what you expect16:12
jessequinnis there anyway to pipe the tarball into mutt as an attachment. - to answer your question - just sits "processing" the tarball is just 9MB16:13
Elw3I dont see any setting relevant to that TJ-16:13
Elw3point is apt is called, actively called. So its not an apt setting.16:14
TJ-Elw3: there's a service being triggered when network-online target is hit16:16
Elw3I am new to this sevice stuff, how do i find and delete that?16:17
jessequinnTJ- yah uuencode just "sits" i have no point of reference but it has been 5 minutes to encode a 9MB file?16:20
TJ-jessequinn: Ctrl+C ... looks like the help and man page don't reflect how it now works! this seems to show it doesn't do what it says with stdin/stdout: "echo test | uuencode"16:22
TJ-jessequinn: seems you need to do the same as gzip and use "uuencode --base64 - "16:23
TJ-Elw3: I'm not sure where it is; I don't see anything that triggers on network-online.target. Are you sure this only happens when the Internet connection is established? There *is* an unattended-upgrades package and option that triggers are boot-time, and some apt daily upgrade timers16:25
Elw3I deleted all of the upgrade packages, all apt references in the systemd folders so i was expecting it to stay calm. But then i noticed it in top again so i renamed the binary and replaced it with a wrapper that notifies me. So yes it gets caled exactly at each reconnect.16:28
TJ-Elw3: what Ubuntu release is this? are you using ifupdown, NetworkManager, or systemd-networkd ?16:30
Elw3Where are the target files again? I only find one of the folders and there it is not.16:30
TJ-Elw3: I think I recall something like that for ifupdown16:30
rfmFor NetworkManager there's  /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d, which will run stuff in /etc/network/if-*.d/16:35
Elw3looks like /etc/network/if-up.d is the cause.16:38
Elw3Know what, gonna delete everything in that. Lets see if i really need it.16:40
oft_gegongis there a program to test xbox controller input?16:40
Elw3Doest that work with the normal joustick tool?16:41
TJ-Elw3: I don't see anything apt related for that directory on 20.0416:41
Elw3Well i am on 18.04.16:41
TJ-Elw3: be aware you'll be breaking things by removing package-installed files16:42
Elw3Obviously they removed it cause they where already systemd services for that.16:42
Elw3kinda used to breaking stuff, lets see. brb16:43
Elw3Well nothing broke it seems.16:46
Elw3All unnecessary stuff, further more less cpu usage on boot.16:47
Elw3Thanks TJ- i probably would have never found this file by myself.16:51
lotuspsychje!cron | jessequinn can this help?16:58
ubottujessequinn can this help?: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto16:58
jayjoWhat's the best way to update an offline machine with updated packages? I am looking at apt-offline. What's the sig file here? Are there other tools that can archive the dependencies of a debian repo in order to install via the network or a USB drive later?17:04
lotuspsychjejayjo: are you looking for a driver, or you want a full system update?17:05
TJ-jayjo: it needs Python I think. "apt-offline set airgapped.sig --update --upgrade --install-packages package-i-need" then "apt-offline get airgapped.sig --bundle airgapped.zip" then move airgapped.zip to the other PC and do "sudo apt-offline install airgapped.zip"17:08
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jessequinnTj- yes base64 works, but does not attach a file but rather fills the body with base6417:45
TJ-jessequinn: that'd be a function of mail I guess; maybe you want uuencode to output to a file then tell mail to attach that?17:46
jessequinnyah that is what i am looking at17:52
TJ-jessequinn: if you're really lucky "mail -a -" would read stdin for the attachment! but I'd guess you'll need to do ... | uuencode --base64 - /tmp/attachment.b64 && mail -a /tmp/attachment.b64 -s " ...17:54
peter22222hi folks, when i upgraded to ubuntu 20.04, i cannot launch gimp any more: GEGL version too old!18:09
peter22222GIMP requires GEGL version 0.4.22 or later.18:09
peter22222Installed GEGL version is 0.4.18.18:09
peter22222Somehow you or your software packager managed18:09
peter22222to install GIMP with an older GEGL version.18:09
peter22222Please upgrade to GEGL version 0.4.22 or later.18:09
lotuspsychjepeter22222: i just installed gimp, it seems to pull libgegl-0.4-0:amd64 (0.4.22-3) automatic here18:11
lotuspsychjeno apt complaints here18:12
lotuspsychjepeter22222: system up to date?18:12
peter22222yes system is up to date18:12
peter22222https://askubuntu.com/questions/1244737/gegl-version-too-old-error/124735918:12
peter22222i tried this already, but without success18:12
jayjoTJ-: thanks a lot... what is "sig" here. A signature of the repos required? At first I though it was a signing signature that I needed to generate on the offline machine18:13
jayjois it just a list or a metadata of the archive?18:13
jayjoor is it a signature? Does it ensure the packages have not been modified?18:14
lotuspsychjepeter22222: its the gimp version from you installed right?18:14
lotuspsychje*apt18:14
peter22222i was on 18.04, i installed gimp from ppa source mentioned above. before upgrading, uninstalled gimp and uninstalled the ppa. after upgrade to 20.04 i installed gimp from repos18:15
lotuspsychjepeter22222: did you sucessfully ppa purged the ppa's before the apt install?18:16
peter22222i tried apt purge gimp, apt reinstall gimp.. deleted .config/GIMP...18:16
lotuspsychjepeter22222: could you check your sources.list to doublecheck, or sources.list.d18:17
peter22222lotuspsychje i just found the solution... I reinstalled the ppa from otto-kesselgulash, made a sudo ppa-purge ppa:otto-kesselgulasch/gimp, then installed gimp again from repos... and now... it s working...LOL18:17
jessequinnTJ- now i just get an error uuencode fatal error:18:17
jessequinnfserr 2 (No such file or directory) performing 'freopen of stdin' on -18:17
jessequinntar cvf - /wwwroot/ansible/ | gzip - | uuencode -m - /tmp/test.tar.gz produces that error18:19
jessequinnwhich i dont understand. shouldnt that just output to the file test.tar.gz?18:19
TJ-jessequinn: hmmm, looks like "-" and an output path don't go together!18:19
TJ-jessequinn: the uuencode help isn't very good18:19
jessequinnyes, exactly18:19
jayjoactually some of the stuff I see does recommend generating a signature on the offline box: "You generate a signature on your Debian box at home and carry the signature file on a removable medium" ... but what if the machine does exist yet? I.e. virtual or being newly provisioned ?18:20
TJ-jessequinn: try "... | uuencode -m - > /tmp/test.tar.gz && ..."18:20
TJ-jayjo: sorry, I missed your question! the 'sig' is, from what I can determine, a list of what needs updating/upgrading which the 'get' command executes18:21
TJ-jayjo: we had to use it this week whilst generating new GPG keys on an airgapped LiveISO boot for enrolling yubikeys18:21
lotuspsychje+1 peter18:22
TJ-jayjo: turned out the Yubico instructions to work offline hadn't been tested offline by them and some packages needed installing!18:22
jayjoTJ-: that'x exactly what I'm doing!18:22
TJ-jayjo: you're getting the benefit of our headaches figuring that process out then!18:22
TJ-jayjo: I'm supposed to have written it up but haven't had time as yet18:22
jayjoWow do I appreciate it. My learning curve with yubikeys, smartcards, and readers has been steep18:23
jayjomainly CCID -> NFC headaches, but that's not for now18:23
jayjoif you are using an airgapped new installation, do you just get that sig from any VM that runs that AMI, and it would then work on any fresh installation?18:24
dasy2k1hi all im struggling to install a PPA, as far as i can see its loading the PPA but i cant find any of the contents18:25
TJ-jayjo: I'm not sure what this AMI is? I used a brand new laptop without an OS install and booted it via a 20.04 USB LiveISO18:25
jayjoOK, but should that 20.04 Live USB without any modifications return the same sig?18:27
TJ-jayjo: then I generated new keys for each person in turn, using gpg --homedir /media/xubuntu/${FSUID}/$username18:28
jayjoso then whether I used a Live USB from a different physical USB in the future, as long as I was using 20.04, the same archive would be installable ?18:28
TJ-jayjo: I was using another, regular, 20.04 Xubuntu PC to run the set/get18:28
TJ-jayjo: Could have done that inside an LXD container of course18:29
TJ-jayjo: you can use "apt-offline --release $RELEASE ..." to use a different release source18:29
lotuspsychjedasy2k1: we actually advice to install software from the official repos, or snaps instead of ppa's18:30
lotuspsychjedasy2k1: wich package are you trying to get?18:31
dasy2k1lotuspsychje,  the latest version of Chirp (radio programming software)18:31
coconutI have a messy set of iptables rules. Any easy way to change that to the default?18:32
dasy2k1lotuspsychje, comes as a PPA or by python compile which fails due to being unable to find python-serial18:32
TJ-dasy2k1: which Ubuntu release? it'd likely want python3-serial18:37
dasy2k1TJ 20.04 focal18:38
dasy2k1TJ-, focal cinnamon respin18:38
dasy2k1TJ-, i have python3-serial installed but when i try and run the python file i get ImportError: No module named serial18:40
TJ-!info python3-serial | dasy2k118:40
ubottudasy2k1: python3-serial (source: pyserial): pyserial - module encapsulating access for the serial port. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4-5.1 (focal), package size 70 kB, installed size 467 kB18:40
TJ-dasy2k1: sounds like the Python script you're running is invoking python2 not python318:40
dasy2k1TJ-, could be18:41
dasy2k1TJ just founded it as a flatpak so will try that18:41
newbwomanjaroHow can I find out if my laptop can produce an image with more resolution than the laptop screen, like on a second monitor? HP Probook 455 born 201618:56
newbwomanjaro^^^ not so newbie on 20.0418:56
TJ-newbwomanjaro: do you mean the modes the GPU can support if they're available on the display?18:58
Elw3Maybe panning can show that, but that tells nothing about what the actual port can output.18:59
TJ-I can't think of any tool that shows the GPU capabilities although maybe there's some 'CTRC' thing to show max frequencies19:01
TJ-or even CRTC !19:01
Elw3Problem is that resolution alone changes with refresh rate, color depth etc.19:02
dasy2k1TJ-,  done some more research apparently its not yet avalable fror focal yet19:02
TJ-dasy2k1: aha!19:02
tomreynnewbwomanjaro: i guess i'd refer to the hardware specifications19:02
d0ub1ewhi19:09
d0ub1ewdo u use telegram-cli?19:10
d0ub1ewanyone?19:10
d0ub1ewk :\19:11
white_magiccan someone advise on how to resolve a broken set of apt packages? I caused this problem by trying to install emacs as a newly created ubuntu user. Right now, I have these packages returned by 'dpkg -l': emacs emacs-bin-common emacs-el emacs26 emacs26-common emacsen-common. I've backed up all the emacs-related files I care about so I wouldn't mind wiping all emacs dependencies out and then reinstalling from scratch19:41
white_magicI tried 'sudo apt-get install 'f' and similar common fixes19:41
white_magicstack overflow saved the day https://stackoverflow.com/questions/57895073/how-remove-emacs-full19:47
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JohnDoe9304Hello. I am GLAT agent. Contact me to purchase a license for GNU/Linux ($99 single user, $49 volume).19:56
coconutJohnDoe9304, also this channel is wrong for that JohnDoe930419:58
JohnDoe9304coconut: Why? Ubuntu is GNU/Linux distribution.19:58
akikJohnDoe9304: you don't need a license for it. you're a scammer19:59
coconutJohnDoe9304, because this is considered spam here19:59
jeremy31!ops | JohnDoe9304 spam19:59
ubottuJohnDoe9304 spam: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, chu19:59
coconutin ALL channels btw19:59
JohnDoe9304I am unable to join ##linux unfortunately19:59
akikwas that for real?20:00
* RikMills shrugs20:00
RikMillsspam or troll, they are toast20:00
white_magiche appeared to be dedicated to the art of trolling20:01
coconutyeah, really someone who does not know what stupid people are20:01
dasy2k1wonder why he is banned from #linux20:03
coconutprob because he does not listen20:03
dasy2k1yeh, that and not getting the concept of foss20:04
coconutweird isn it20:04
SrPxI've asked this a long time ago, but I wonder if there is an answer now, so: is there any way to run a game on a desktop Ubuntu machine with a very good GPU, but play it on my Ubuntu ultrabook with an integrated GPU?20:14
coconutSrPx, you want to run a game on your laptop while using the gpu from another pc? Prrrrt, that is not something i have seen... But never say never. Might be someone else do know this.20:19
SrPxI want to play the game on my XPS 13 laptop (more comfortable), but it doesn't have a good GPU. But I do have a great GPU on my desktop. So I wonder if I do it somehow.20:20
oerheksintegrated gpu, could be anything, from onboard intel, to addon card20:20
oerheksdepends what gen intel..20:20
SrPxOr in other words, can I use my desktop's GPU as an eGPU for my notebook?20:21
oerhekserr no20:21
coconuthmmm, latest intel integrated gpu's are quite powerful i think20:22
oerhekseven with vnc/screen ove ssh, it will be a drag20:22
coconutSrPx, apple does have external gpu's for their macs (just saying)20:22
oerheksoehhh, those are cruel good, over usbC20:23
Elw3So game streaming SrPx ?20:23
Elw3There are a few programs for that.20:24
jessequinnTJ- i got it to work with mutt  // tar cvf - /wwwroot | gzip > /tmp/backup.tar.gz && echo "backup of /wwwroot" | mutt -a /tmp/backup.tar.gz -s "directory backup on $(date)" -- someemail@gmail.com20:29
SrPxElw3: yea but it seems like none works with linux as the host20:32
Elw3SrPx there is https://github.com/irtimmer/moonlight-embedded for example, but the describtion says its windows to linux...20:32
Elw3Ah...20:32
SrPxexcept steam but then it is kinda crappy20:32
SrPxwell20:33
SrPxi wonder if using parsec would work from a windows vm inside my linux desktop?20:33
Elw3I wonder if there arent already simple commands for that.20:34
Elw3X can very well send windows over the network.20:35
Elw3But apparently very few know how that works.20:35
SrPxReally? That would be amazing. Why I can't find more about it? argh20:35
Elw3Well x windows render are no graphic card render, you might recieve a grey blob, but at least the mouse/keyboard input should work.20:36
Elw3And then couple that with a video stream maybe?20:37
Elw3Try x forwarding with ssh, lets just try what happens. There are plenty of how to on the web for that.20:39
oerheksa game forwarding, interesting.. static text is no problem.. but a 60 fps screen...20:43
SrPxexactly20:43
SrPxi want it so much because that will allow me to have ubuntu as the main OS of the desktop, no dual boot windows20:43
SrPxno more resets etc20:43
Elw3This actually sounds pretty easy https://evpo.wordpress.com/2017/03/04/opengl-hardware-acceleration-through-remote-x11-ssh-connection/20:44
oerheks.. and using the local graphics card for rendering.20:45
Elw3Too bad my tower has no wifi, so i cant play around with that.20:45
oerheksthat is what he wants to avoid20:45
Elw3Ohh20:45
tatertotsSrPx: if video games are a priority, any additional layers of complexity placed in between will degrade performance20:45
Elw3I overread that20:45
tatertotsSrPx: for optimal performance you want as little additional layers of complexity in between the computer, it's OS and the video game itself as possible20:46
SrPxoerheks: oh, good point. So that definitely won't work.20:47
tatertotsSrPx: sure you can attach 30x drinking straws together to drink from a cup 20 feet/meters away....side effect is you'll be sucking harder and have muscle additional muscle fatigue from drinking that way as a result20:48
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SrPxagain the problem is simple, I have a RTX 2080 TI on my desktop and I want to play games on my Ubuntu laptop, without having to install Windows on my desktop20:48
SrPxI'll keep trying things and let you know20:48
tatertotsSrPx: with that having been said.....K.I.S.S20:48
SrPxtatertots: how would you keep it simple?20:49
SrPxthe only simple answer I can think of is "just buy a fucking gaming notebook" :P20:49
SrPxwhich again, perhaps is what I should do TBH20:49
tatertotsSrPx: lol...accept the gaming performace that they laptop you chose to purchase can provide.....not good enough for you???...go sit in fron of your RTX 2080 and Windows 1020:50
tatertotssimple20:50
tatertotsor as a alternative that is also "simple" ......buy a laptop with a GTX/RTX discrete GPU20:51
coconut... or wait on the new playstation, which will be released this year iirc20:53
pymagicis anyone here using livepatch? pros/cons of using it in production systems?20:54
oerheksexcellent, for production machines, LTS that is20:55
pymagicoerheks, how much does it cost?20:55
oerheksthe spice - like tool is a breeze, just for 1 kernel ofcourse20:56
oerheks3 machines on your ID20:56
pymagicoerheks, for 25 VM machines?20:56
oerheksno. for such quantity contact canonical20:56
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rishois anyone here familliar with zfs and zsys on ubuntu?21:15
Bashing-omrisho: The tutorials: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/zfs-focus-on-ubuntu-20-04-lts-blog-posts/16355 .21:19
rishoi'm already decently familliar with zfs my only question is if I add an additional dataset to my pool will it break zsys or cause problems?21:20
tomreynit's an experimental feature, so experiment21:43
rishothat is a non-answer. either adding your own datasets is an intended or supported usecase or it isn't21:46
rishosaying "who knows dude. try it out. you'll either lose your data or you won't" isn't very useful support21:46
tomreyni'm just making sure you're aware of your support status.21:47
Kiwisokm I'm debugging some docker ubuntu images... with cmd /bin/bash they don't start but with /lib/systemd/systemd they do21:50
Kiwiswhy ?21:50
oerheksuse the CMD directive in the Dockerfile. https://askubuntu.com/questions/938869/docker-run-ubuntu-bin-bash-vs-docker-run-ubuntu21:58
sunsabrehi21:59
sunsabreneed help w bluetooth21:59
Elw3Ask the question22:00
sunsabrei cant get it to recognize22:01
sunsabrewhen i do hcitool dev22:01
sunsabreit doesnt show up22:01
Elw3Do other bluetooth devices work?22:02
fradhow do I save all pictures from any given webpage not saving one by one?22:03
Elw3wget can do that frad22:03
sunsabreno22:05
sunsabrei cant turn bluetooth on22:05
Elw3So your bluetooth device isnt working at all?22:06
Elw3Is that an usb stick or an inbuild card?22:06
Kiwisoerheks bedtijd ;)22:07
Kiwisoerheks no I needed -i -t :)22:07
Kiwisoerheks you also forgot the h in front of your name :P22:09
guzzlefryIs there a website that allows me to check package versions for a given Ubuntu version?22:17
bashcuhi everyone22:18
bashcugreetings from costa rica22:18
bashcuiḿ studing python and i wider if ubuntu have some develop apps for newbies22:19
bashcuand in python :)22:19
bashcu*wonder22:19
Elw3guzzlefry the repo can be opened with a browser22:19
Elw3http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/22:20
bashcusome directions please, and thanks :)22:20
guzzlefryok great, thank you22:20
Elw3like what for example bashcu ?22:21
bashcuanything , than i can understand22:22
bashcu*everything jajaja22:22
Elw3You need a text editor and python, there isnt much more.22:22
bashcui install ATOM22:22
bashcui used gnome-builder too, with a gnome-music project is in python , but is to advance for my level rigth now, i continue studing , i jus wondering if some apps like gnome-music, less hard i can find in ubuntu22:25
Elw3Are you trying to learn coding or are you enjoying yourself clicking random buttons?22:27
Kiwiswow, docker is FAST! on my old 1TB external USB disk on a Vbox VM :)22:27
bashcui'm trying to grow up my professional life, before i just admin and install operative system, i don't like too much codig, until covid-1922:29
deus402i'm not sure if this is normal or not, but i'm running ubuntu 18.04, and date always replies with the date/time in UTC, my timedatectl output looks like this: https://termbin.com/hpw98 is this normal? is there a way to change it to give report my local time so i'm not constantly having to do math to figure out when things happened in logs and such? for example, looks like my zpool is going to22:29
deus402resilver in a couple hours from now, heh: https://termbin.com/8t9f22:29
masondeus402: echo TZ ?22:30
masondeus402: TZ will override the default22:31
deus402# echo $TZ22:31
deus402America/Chigago22:31
oerheksis this a dual boot?22:31
deus402no22:31
oerheksoke, windows does like to mess up time too22:32
masondeus402: Are you running ntpd or similar?22:32
masondeus402: And what's /etc/localtime pointing to?22:33
deus402 > /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago22:33
deus402how do i check if ntpd is running?22:34
deus402# systemctl status ntpd22:34
deus402Unit ntpd.service could not be found.22:34
masondeus402: All of that looks normal. I'd not expect date to give you anything but CDT.22:34
masondeus402: which date    ?22:34
deus402same22:34
masonAnd how are you invoking it?22:34
deus402just typing date at the command line22:35
masonWhat's 'which date' return?22:35
deus402> /bin/date22:35
deus402but basically everything is just reporting the time in UTC22:36
masonoh, duh, your timedatectl showed systemd-timesyncd running.22:36
masondeus402: does 'tail /var/log/syslog' also show UTC dates? And has the box rebooted since the time zone was set?22:37
deus402https://termbin.com/uu4622:38
masondeus402: And... Is there any chance the clock is just way, way off? That seems unlikely, but clearly something unexpected is happening.22:38
masonAh, so it's logging in CDT as desired.22:38
deus402or... thats 5 hours old from when i rebooted22:39
masonalright, then please issue 'logger test right now' and repeat the termbin exercise22:40
deus402https://termbin.com/89no822:41
deus402ok, so that is in local time22:41
masonRight, so it's logging in CDT now.22:41
masondeus402: Reboot and any lingering processes will start with a fresh conception of time, but you're probably fine if logging and cron know what time it is.22:41
deus402that's even more baffling to me then.22:41
masondeus402: You have to know what's going on under the hood. :P22:42
deus402so since we basically changed nothing and it IS logging in local time, why is zpool status showing utc?22:43
deus402https://termbin.com/cw9o22:43
masonreboot and it'll correct its notion of time - clearly time is set properly now for new processes22:43
deus402and >date is still returning utc22:43
masondeus402: One more though... what's dmesg -T | tail show you? Local or UTC?22:43
deus402https://termbin.com/m0jo22:44
deus402shows me the future lol.22:44
masonIn any event, date shouldn't be returning UTC. Very odd. I'd verify that it's the right binary, uncorrupted, not replaced, etc.22:44
masondeus402: Is this inside vmware or something? If so, make sure the hypervisor isn't mangling guest time.22:45
deus402nope, bare metal22:46
masonI'd want to reboot. Logging has it right, but it's not consistent with kernel or your date output.22:47
Bashing-omdeus402: To check your settings: timedatectl .22:48
masonBashing-om: he did: https://termbin.com/hpw9822:48
deus402 my timedatectl output looks like this: https://termbin.com/hpw9822:48
Bashing-omnarasimha: deus402 Looks sane also to me ... hummmm .22:49
deus402mason, how would i check my binary? or just download the right one and replace it anyway?22:49
masondeus402: get a checksum on another system, verify it - I'd not start chasing that stuff until I saw your system continue to misbehave after a reboot22:50
deus402https://termbin.com/oap022:50
masondeus402: In short, if your binaries give you completely inexplicable behaviour, make sure they haven't been compromised, however you're most comfortable doing that.22:50
deus402looks normal enough to me22:51
deus402mason: i rebooted earlier today, and I haven't changed anything since.22:51
deus402also, system is remote and doesn't like to play nice with remote reboots.22:51
masonI'd still reboot again. Your logging and timedatectl match. Now let's see if everything else does as well.22:52
masonAh, no IPMI or remote console otherwise?22:52
deus402nah, just a normal consumer mobo being asked to do more than it was probably meant to.22:52
masonWell. The disparity is as confusing to me as it is to you, but it's notable that timedatectl and logging both seem to be doing the right thing.22:53
deus402ok, i got someone at the console now for a reboot, iirc, the gui is also reporting the wrong time22:55
deus402*reporting utc time22:55
masondeus402: My guess is that whatever the cause, you're going to come back with everything reporting the right time.22:55
masondeus402: If not, I'm happy to help dig deeper.22:56
deus402i'd bet a beer against that lol, but here we go.22:56
deus402is there a preferred method to remotely reboot? both 'sudo shutdown -r now' and 'sudo reboot' don't come back ever.22:56
masonsudo shutdown -r now is more polite22:57
deus402done22:57
deus402got a human standing by in case it needs power cycled.22:58
deus402ok, came back23:00
deus402https://termbin.com/05jjr23:01
tomreynmason: $ echo $(lsb_release -ds; readlink -f $(which reboot); readlink -f $(which shutdown))23:01
tomreynUbuntu 18.04.4 LTS /bin/systemctl /bin/systemctl23:01
tomreyni'm not sure there's a lot of difference anymore between "shutdown -r" and "reboot" in systemd times23:02
deus402https://termbin.com/lm3y23:02
blue1well I am old school so i do a sudo init 623:02
masontomreyn: Better hygiene for folks that might admin multiple sorts of system. The BSDs still have the traditional behaviour.23:02
masondeus402: Logging still in the expected CDT, or has that moved to UTC as well?23:03
blue1111F here today.23:04
mason30°F cooler here and it was still too hot23:04
deus402https://termbin.com/oci023:04
masondeus402: See? Everything's deadly consistent now. :P23:05
deus402haha23:05
masondeus402: So, at this point I'd wonder if something copied a zone onto /etc/localtime and overwrote your UTC, except that it seemed to say the right thing in timedatectl.23:05
masondeus402: Can we have a new timedatectl please?23:05
deus402i suppose check that again23:06
deus402yep23:06
deus402https://termbin.com/rcwl23:06
masondeus402: For kicks, can you sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata on the box?23:08
MikeRLHave disabled power saving on my intel networking card on 20.04. Want to post to forums on it. but what command would I want for all network card related info?23:08
MikeRLSorry typing on phone sucks. Will fire up computer but didn't want to initially do this tonight.23:09
deus402mason: done23:09
deus402https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/Th2WPXRzrp/23:09
masondeus402: Can you maybe grab strace -ftttTvyyo /tmp/borken-date.trace -s 4096 date     and share the borken-date.trace file on a pastebin?23:13
masonIt's grasping at straws, mind you, but I'd love to see how it differs from a similar box here.23:13
deus402https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/JHwGCtzqp5/23:14
masondeus402: I mean, share the resulting /tmp/borken-date.trace and there's no need to run it with sudo23:15
deus402derp23:15
masonmaybe run it again without sudo, and clear out the initial output file first23:15
deus402https://termbin.com/yoju23:15
deus402without sudo: https://termbin.com/jgdf23:16
masonlooking23:16
masondeus402: see PM23:19
masonGot it.23:25
masondeus402: 1718  1594595762.387214 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chigago", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) <0.000010>23:25
deus402ok, so whats the fix then?23:26
masondeus402: your dpkg-reconfigure tzdata might have fixed it - ls -l /etc/localtime again23:26
masondeus402: I have to believe that was following your /etc/localtime link, but checking more carefully.23:26
deus402wut:  /etc/localtime -> /usr/share/zoneinfo/Africa/23:27
masonThat seems as wrong as "Chigago"23:27
deus402oh damn i still missed that23:27
masondeus402: Something's funny with your zone information. I don't see it trying to look at /etc/localtime, where it should be trying that.23:28
deus402shouldn't timedatectl have fixed that though?23:29
deus402err23:30
masonNah, most of the systemd stuff is just goop piled atop the actual system utilities.23:30
deus402the dpkg-reconfigure23:30
masonthat one should have fixed it23:30
masonDid you choose America/Chicago there?23:30
masonLooks like you did.23:31
masondeus402: Worst case, and this should not be necessary, you can say, as root:23:31
deus402https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/NCBM9kJhqV/23:32
masonrm /etc/localtime ; ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago /etc/localtime23:32
deus402i'm not scared lol, do it?23:33
masonYeah, worst case is your time look-ups are funny.23:33
masonAnd they're funny already.23:33
deus402it's done23:34
masondeus402: That's an exceedingly odd error to have, though, and I'd be a little worried about how that ended up being the way it is.23:34
masondeus402: date working now?23:34
deus402nope23:35
deus402https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/Hr5CbT7kBg/23:35
masondeus402: What's cksum /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago say?23:36
masonShould be 2797502607 3585 /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago23:36
deus402date has been borked since install, i _have_ fumbled my way through several internet search solutions23:37
deus4022797502607 3585 /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago23:37
masondeus402: Unclear what the issue is. timedatectl and /etc/localtime both seem right, and your system clock seems right from what we can see.23:40
deus402is it possible the bios clock is somehow borking things up?23:41
masonDon't think so. It looks right.23:42
masonsee more PM23:42
MikeRLWhat could cause WiFi to fail a few seconds after startup though?23:44
MikeRLI mean in general23:44

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