=== Grldfrdom_ is now known as Grldfrdom === Grldfrdom is now known as Grldfrdom_ [00:35] hello, it is ok to use 8GB ram with new ubuntu? [00:37] FutureRich: 8Gb is sufficient enough [00:38] FutureRich: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#Recommended_Minimum_System_Requirements [00:58] thanks how can i know my cpu? [01:00] FutureRich: It is unclear what you ask - Can you restate the question, please. [01:01] cpu info? [01:01] FutureRich: lscpu [01:02] my cpu is only 'Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-6100U CPU @ 2.30GHz'. then it is too late? [01:02] no, it's good enough to use Ubuntu with [01:03] ah [01:03] very good [01:15] i3-6100 is a very nice CPU. [01:15] it is not i3-6100 but i3-6100u [01:15] oooooooooooooooooooooooooooh [01:15] right [01:16] FutureRich: the link i gave are just the recommended minimum requirements to run ubuntu on, so you're fine. [01:16] thanks it is better to upgrade ram to 16GB? [01:18] FutureRich: as i said 8GB is sufficient enough and together with the CPU Ubuntu will run fine. Again, you're good to go with those specs.... [01:18] thanks M_aD :) [01:19] just install ubuntu if you haven't done so already [01:19] i installed new ubuntu already [01:19] and you're welcome :) === zbenjamin is now known as Guest12991 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:19] well then, have fun with it [01:20] thanks === RonWhoCares is now known as RonWhoCares_HP52 === RonWhoCares_HP52 is now known as RonWhoCaresHP520 === RonWhoCaresHP520 is now known as RonWhoCares === gabkdlly_ is now known as gabkdlly [02:25] HI all, I have had this problem for years and have just decided to see if any else has it, while using SCP from the command line if at any point I hit the tab key, like to tab complete a path, the command line freezes for say 3-4 minutes. Left alone it will come back but take its sweet time. Anyone else? [02:26] Hammerhead2010: DNS issue. [02:26] Hammerhead2010: Should only be a minute in the worst case, though. [02:27] If it were a cisco router I would agree, how do you know that? [02:27] I guess I could strace scp but other than that.. [02:27] Hammerhead2010: Ask yourself what's happening when you tab complete. [02:27] And sure, strace would probably highlight it pretty well. [02:28] I am getting a blank stare from my self. jk I would assume it's was trying to find the path?? [02:28] Note that you want to strace your shell, not scp. [02:29] complete the path [02:29] Hammerhead2010: Right, but tab completion includes hosts. [02:29] I will give that a shot and see what happens. Thanks Mason. [02:29] I mean, maybe really marginal storage could do the same thing, but that wouldn't be your only symptom. [02:30] Hammerhead2010: Sure thing. Also, FWIW, maybe zap bash-completion and start a new shell, and see if it *doesn't* happen there. [02:30] even better, could try zsh or any of the others. [02:30] If it's DNS look-ups from hostname completion that might not matter. [02:31] Hammerhead2010: You can also maybe set aside your known_hosts file, as I think that's a source it uses to look up completions. Just guessing there. [02:31] Hammerhead2010: If it's not DNS, I'd be curious to know what it was if you solve it. [03:43] Hammerhead2010: simple to rule that out....are you using ssh/scp with a IP or a name [03:43] Hammerhead2010: ? [03:44] Hammerhead2010: does it happen when using IP address? [03:50] Hello, around two weeks ago, my screen brightness stopped working on Ubuntu 20.04, as in, I can adjust the bar, but the screen doesn't change. Also, GNOME Night Light stopped working, I'm willing to be they're the same issue. Has anyone faced something similar? [03:52] luiserebii: wich kernel version please? [03:53] tatertots: scp will tab complete hostnames even if you haven't done anything to indicate one yet [03:53] lotuspsychke: I think it's 5.4.0-40-generic, based on `uname -r` [03:53] *lotuspsychje, sorry [03:54] tatertots: Experiment: scp .bashrc and hit tab a couple times, and examine the list. [03:55] Not sure this should actually do lookups, of course, but random pauses are almost always DNS somewhere along the line. [03:55] luiserebii: did you have this on previous kernels too? [03:57] I'm not sure; since I freshly installed 20.04, I haven't been aware if the kernel has updated, before when I was on 16.04, I think this had happened, but I had fixed it by reinstalling my graphics drivers, I think. I tried to do reinstall the graphics drivers this time around also, but it doesn't seem to have worked, though I can try it again [04:07] luiserebii: could you pastebin your dmesg plz? [04:10] lotuspsychje: sure https://pastebin.com/Ui2Hbzgy [04:12] luiserebii: ah, your secureboot is enabled, this can influence hardware in some cases, could you try booting with secureboot disabled please? [04:13] Sure, I will disable it and return to see what happens then [04:13] luiserebii: tnx === JanC is now known as Guest54012 === JanC_ is now known as JanC [04:21] lotuspsychje: wow. I'm so confused. I disabled Secure Boot, booted back in, and yes, the problem has corrected itself. I can modify screen brightness, Night Light is working, and some other software that was broken before is working now. [04:21] I don't know if these details help, but there is something else that changed when this behavior started happening [04:21] luiserebii: glad it worked out [04:22] luiserebii: you can check your new dmesg if you like, after secureboot=off mostly it straights problems out [04:22] I have a triple-boot setup, and two of the OS installations are Ubuntu, and they also happened to swap places in GRUB [04:22] I see [04:23] Do you have any ideas as to why the other Ubuntu install works perfectly with Secure Boot on? (it was really just one of them that started having this issue) [04:26] luiserebii: well it really depends on the hardware combo too, with a locked kernel, things can lock in some cases === OEIRAS is now known as OERIAS [04:27] lotuspsychje: hmmm, ok, I think I understand. The other install would fail to come back if I closed the laptop lid and reopened it later, I guess from hibernation, do you think this might have been related? I'm tempted to go check to see if it works now haha [04:28] luiserebii: well, hibernate issues can also come from another corner too, aka ACPI problems [04:28] !acpi | luiserebii [04:28] luiserebii: to debug ACPI issues on ubuntu make sure your bios is up to date and follow the procedure here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI [04:29] luiserebii: for example your dmesg shows your asus bios is from 2015, its always wise to check if your bios is up to date to latest to avoid acpi problems [04:30] lotuspsychje: thank you for the link, this really helps, I'll look at it [04:31] welcome luiserebii [04:32] lotuspsychje: It might have had something to do with the strange way I set things up: the first install (the one I'm currently on that just had the issue), when installing, I had selected the simpler option of just installing Ubuntu alongside with Windows. When I decided to make the second installation, I shrunk that partition down and manually made three paritions after it; /, one for swap, and /home, and installed the second [04:33] there. I figured this might be a useful detail to maybe mention; did I botch that installation somehow? I regret not manually making those partitions, since I'm not sure how the simpler option works [04:35] luiserebii: oh well for dualboot layouts im not your man, you might talk to EriC^^ our uefi wzard :p [04:37] lotuspsychje: Ahhh, ok. I wish I knew more about these topics, not sure how to learn more. I will test things out and check out the link soon! Thank you again :D [04:39] !uefi | luiserebii for dualboot [04:39] luiserebii for dualboot: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [04:40] lotuspsychje: Ahhh, thanks, I will read this also! [04:56] My SD card is not detected, even when it is plugged in. It got corrupted really badly when my os crashed on it. It doesn't even show it exists when I run lsblk. Are there tools for ubuntu that can fix it? [05:00] bloodfart: journalctl -f and plug in your sd, the pastebin us the errors please [05:01] why doesn't `apt-get build-dep weechat` install libgcrypt20-dev, etc. [05:02] how do i get all those -dev stuff automagically, like more of a neat one-liner? [05:02] greetings, by the way. [05:06] lotuspsychje: Okay, will do [05:07] Damn I thought that would of worked.. [05:33] I was reading a forum after I pasted this "mmc1: error -110 whilst initialising SD card" it is still being detected... [06:19] This is what my sd card is doing https://pastebin.com/MiSZ6vaH [06:32] hi2all; in case of having 3 and more language inputs, how can I set up hotkey to switch only betwen two last used? example for macos: https://askubuntu.com/questions/871678/how-can-i-quickly-switch-between-two-out-of-multiple-languages [08:33] <[Pokey]> Heyo, is there any way I would be able to copy my Windows color calibration profiles over to Ubuntu? === Tanvir is now known as Bangladesh [09:12] sup nerds [09:17] May I know how to add a customize right click arrow to show "open with other application" like older ubuntu release to new 18.04 or 20.04 ? Some photo image having mulitiple application to open rather than choosing with open application , I would like to have a arrow and drop down list to choose. [09:18] so i installed 20.04 with the experimental ZFS... anything I should know [09:22] Does anyone understand my question ? [09:26] An example : I need to open with other application on a file https://i.imgur.com/BMjPjUA.jpg but on previous older version https://i.imgur.com/RhgEczQ.jpg I can "open with" arrow and choose the application I wanted . How to customize it to return the arrow to for choosing ? [09:30] <_crows12_> cd .. [09:49] It looks like nemo able to do the job [10:00] hey guys i have 3 questions and i need an answer please [10:03] 1. i have Intel® HD Graphics 400 (BSW) how can i increase vram for gaming on my ubuntu [10:05] 2. how can i install epsxe 32 bit playstation emulator on my ubuntu [10:07] 3. when i insert a usb stick on my ubuntu laptop it wont open but it opens normally on windows machine [10:14] CoDeAmRo : your order is wrong , you should install epsxe first at the set your vram at epsxe.3 terminal "lsusb" to see whether your usb is detected [10:33] On Ubuntu (20.04) - what VIM package to install to have both clipboard functioning with X, +Ruby and +Python? [10:34] If anyone know some graphic design or photo editing , I hope someone can explain those gamma brightness and contrast since I can't find any answer on google. [10:40] Really no one active at this time ? [10:41] ello [10:43] love ubuntu === jubo2 is now known as juboxi [10:59] nbusrone: if your questions are generic regarding graphic design and photo editing (they seem to be), I'd recommend using !alis to find a more suitable place to ask the questions. there is always a chance you'll find one about the very application you're using. [10:59] !alis | nbusrone [10:59] nbusrone: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http" [11:03] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_correction and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrast_(vision) seem related to your topic, if just remotely to your operating system. [11:05] anyone know how to create a windows iso via terminal [11:10] Boi: are you asking how to create a bootable windows 10 installer from an .iso file provided by Microsoft? woeusb (not in ubuntu) is supposed to support this. [11:11] yes bro i am [11:11] i need to add redhat drivers to it [11:11] not a bro here, this is a smelly pink unicorn [11:11] fml [11:11] server 19 [11:12] this sounds like either a windows or a redhat question, while this channel is called #ubuntu [11:12] i prefer ubuntu tho [11:12] ive got 3 ubuntu servers [11:12] rip 18 y u fk up mail n shit [11:13] Boi, please grow up [11:13] i cant im 24 [11:13] I am very serious about this ISO. [11:14] This ISO means the world to me. [11:14] Exchange looks like a wonderful software that I would love to install on a Windows Sevrer. [11:14] Server.* [11:14] then it should help that you got a serious answer. no need to discuss it to length, here, though. [11:15] destroyed [11:15] Boi: why would you need a redhat driver during setup? [11:15] storage drivers can be added via some usb stick during setups, everything else can be added after setup is complete [11:15] cloud services my friend [11:16] thats not answering my question [11:16] i need virtio drivers because its a redhat kvm [11:16] but i am in hospital [11:16] so add them during setup?! [11:16] and the internet is evil [11:16] you dont need to include them into the iso [11:17] (you technically could, but its a lot more complicated) [11:17] !offtopic | Boi gurki [11:17] Boi gurki: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [11:17] i tried a program, the file is too large [11:17] i have to agree this is neither ##windwos nor ##windows-server *g* [11:17] 5gb [11:17] *g* [11:18] brb need this smoke [11:20] I have connected two linux machines via crosover ethernet cable, assigned IPs on both ends and it sort of work, however sometimes IP assignemt gets removed and in the same time I can see a pop up message "Authentication failed" [11:20] how can I disable this authentication? [11:25] jesus christ [11:25] this person doesn't seem to be around. [11:27] mra90: can you show a screenshot of the pop up message? which ubuntu release is this, which software / frontend did you use to configure the network interface? does the message popo up on both systems? [11:28] Yes, quite other channels. Kick Boi away. [11:29] :/ [11:29] I shows up for a short while only and then IP is removed. One machine is ubuntu second is chromeOS terminal mode [11:29] so tomreyn it shows only on ubuntu since second machine is in terminal mode [11:30] but IP is removed on that other machine [11:30] how to disable authentication from command line? [11:30] tomreyn : sorry for late reply [11:31] tomreyn : my question is about xrandr [11:31] tomreyn : before this i need to know about gamma and brightness setting [11:31] tomreyn : I hope you can have a look. [11:32] tomreyn : At the image,https://i.imgur.com/2TFGdhP.jpg on nvidia setting , [11:32] When I lower the Birhgtness to -50 https://i.imgur.com/FfCPFhJ.jpg and -1 value https://i.imgur.com/2TFGdhP.jpg of the Nvidia setting graph line lower top and bottom equaly but when I lower the brightness , the graph line only gets lower at the top and not equal.https://i.imgur.com/xoO4mTz.jpg and reduce to none https://i.imgur.com/9q7ofeI.jpg only flatten the graph compare to nvidia setting. [11:32] May I know what is the reason behind ? what is the different ? I need some photo expert to explain.Thanks [11:35] mra90: it's not clear what kind of authentication is being used, this is why i suggested posting the screenshot and discussing how you configured the network interface on ubuntu [11:36] tomreyn, but this popup message doesn't say what authentication is it [11:36] it just says "authentication failed" [11:36] mra90: if, for example, you used the network-manager GUI to configure the network interface - there's a tab for configuring authentication there, i think. [11:36] ifconfig ETH_NAME_HERE 10.0.0.X netmask 255.255.255.0 [11:36] tomreyn, ^ this is how I configured it [11:37] X is 1 or 2 depending on machine [11:39] nbusrone: i don't think i can help there, haven't used this software (nvidia x settings) before [11:40] mra90: which ubuntu version is this? lsb_release -ds [11:41] mra90: do you run a graphical desktop on the ubuntu system? [11:41] 18,04,4 LTS [11:41] tomreyn, yes [11:42] mra90: open the network configuration screens for this network interface, and go to where you can edit the ip address. [11:42] yes I am there now [11:42] security is OFF [11:42] mra90: are you on a window with tabs and the current tzab is "identity"? [11:42] okay, that would have been my next question [11:43] yes is there anything I can in "Identity" tab? [11:43] so 802.1x Security is off on the Security tab, right? [11:43] yes [11:43] the question is if it is ON on the other machine [11:44] but there I have only terminal [11:44] probably not, but then i don't know this other OS. [11:44] tomreyn : yeh , if you remember i am able to find and set xrandr brightness perment but but only brightness are being set , and it looks awful which like contrast is missing , worry i messing up i though of finding the real reason behind nvidia color graph line.As for contrast using xcalib but i worry i get mess with the integer number. [11:44] its linux [11:44] so I need some command to check it [11:45] mra90: it'S a linux derivate, yes. not one supported in #ubuntu, though, but it may have its own channel you could find with !alis [11:45] they don't [11:45] and I think this part is common for all linux derivatioves [11:45] there's also ##linux, may be worth a try [11:46] tomreyn : is there a nvidia channel around here ? [11:46] i think they key to solving this problem is looking at your logs and understanding what (which software) pops up this 'authentication error/failed' message [11:47] mra90: ^ [11:47] nbusrone: i don't know, have you asked alis about it? [11:47] sure [11:47] thanks tomreyn [11:47] you're welcome [11:52] 'Morning folks [11:56] tomreyn, sorry I mad a mistake [11:56] made* [11:57] the error message is because the external eth card disconnects on on end [11:57] it has nathing to do with authentication of any sort [11:59] mra90: okay. so a screenshot could have helped there. [12:00] glad you identified the problem, though [12:05] sudo mkvmerge -o output-file.mkv --split parts:00:00:04-00:03:22 'a child'.mkv mkvmerge v48.0.0 ('Fortress Around Your Heart') 64-bit returns 'The file 'a child.mkv' could not be opened for reading: open file error. Is this a problem of mkvmerge or something else? [12:08] tomreyn : thanks found #nvidia , hoping someone will reply :) [12:10] sup === artix_live_1 is now known as Kaan [12:11] Kaan: welcome, what can we do for you? [12:11] my bad, thought this was general chat :) [12:12] !support [12:12] The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com === leaftype2 is now known as leaftype [13:02] <[Pokey]> Hi there, is there an EQ panel for 20.04? [13:06] hi folks... on ubuntu 20.04, i have problems with the virtual printer "boomaga" . [13:20] Hello I have problem with installing matploitb, there is freetype2 which i installed through brew. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CVymJwYsTH/ [13:21] It says it cant find - " freetype: no [The C/C++ header for freetype2 (ft2build.h) could not be found. You may need to install the development package.]" [13:24] what's the most reliable dlna server out there? minidlna crashes too often these days for me. [13:31] meleh: see my reply in #xubuntu [13:31] !ask | peter22222 [13:32] peter22222: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [13:32] !details | peter22222: sorry, this rather [13:32] peter22222: sorry, this rather: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. [13:36] ubottu tomreyn sorry guys.. ok.. boomaga is in official repos, version 3.0.0. I installed it and tried to add printer. The program works by itself fine, i can open pdf and rearrange.. but it is not possible to use it as a virtual printer any more as it worked before in ubuntu 18.04. I get error message: [Boomaga GUI] ERROR: Can't start boomaga gui. [13:39] peter22222: which ubuntu version are you running there? lsb_release -ds [13:39] ubuntu 20.04 [13:39] oh you wrote this before, sorry [13:39] no problem :-) [13:40] peter22222: this error message you get, is this printed on a temrinal or on the graphical desktop itself, as a separate window? [13:43] tomreyn when i click print and select boomaga (after manually adding), nothing happens, so i went to printer GUI and there is this error message... [13:51] peter22222: hmm, i see. can you run "boomaga" from a terminal? and when you do, what does it report? copy + paste to https://paste.ubuntu.com and share the link here) [13:55] tomreyn i can run it from gui launcher and from terminal, but it seems the CUPS is not allowed to start it if i print from e.g. libreoffice... [13:57] tomreyn boomaga 2>&1 https://pastebin.com/QqghGxvp [14:10] peter22222: hmm, this *could* be apparmor related. if so, you'd see audit messages about it in system logs (journalctl -f for logtail or journalctl -eb to see what was logged rcently) [14:11] peter22222: other than that i'd check ubuntu's bug tracker, as well as the developers' own bug tracker about it. [14:11] tomreyn... maybe waiting till ppa for focal is available and upgrading then [14:12] thanks for your help :-) [14:12] boomaga is a community maintained package - those are usually imported from debian (who also have a bug tracker you can check), and are not always as well maintained as packages in the ubuntu 'main' archive section [14:19] peter22222: this might also help identifying the source of the problem: https://github.com/Boomaga/boomaga/wiki/Debugging [14:20] thank you tomreyn, i ll check that out [14:22] W [12/Jul/2020:14:49:27 +0200] [Job 1822] [Boomaga GUI] WARNING: Can\'t read DBUS session direcory /var/spool/cups/tmp/.dbus/session-bus [14:22] E [12/Jul/2020:14:49:27 +0200] [Job 1822] [Boomaga GUI] ERROR: Can\'t start boomaga gui. [14:24] Anyone using nvidia x server setting for brightness control ? did anyone set the brightness before ? [14:24] peter22222: just tested it on 20.04, works like a charm on my side [14:24] lotuspsychje did you print from libreoffice? [14:25] peter22222: no, just tested launch [14:26] lotuspsychje the program itself works, i can open pdfs with it and print it, but it doesnt work as a virtual printer (for printing from another program like libreoffice) [14:26] peter22222: tell me the steps you are trying please? [14:27] peter22222: this bug report quotes the same error message, but i'm not sure it'll hel. it does seem like a bug in either the software itself or the way it is built for debian / ubuntu [14:27] https://github.com/Boomaga/boomaga/issues/79 [14:27] hel -> help [14:28] nbusrone: are you still hunting that brightness bug you affected to? [14:29] tomreyn very interesting link. i guess you are absolutely right [14:33] lotuspsychje : yeh , it looks like at nvidia channel doesn't seem to respond so I would like to ask here where whether someone did a test on brightness issue. [14:34] lotuspsychje : #nvidia , seems like no one is active currently. [14:41] sudo mkvmerge -o output-file.mkv --split parts:00:00:04-00:03:22 'a child'.mkv mkvmerge v48.0.0 ('Fortress Around Your Heart') 64-bit returns 'The file 'a child.mkv' could not be opened for reading: open file error. Is this a problem of mkvmerge or something else? [14:42] tomreyn i set cupsctl to debug-logging... i got this: https://pastebin.com/1nX8uHbm [14:49] frad maybe try rename 'a child.mkv' to a_child.mkv [14:49] hello [14:52] I'm trying to boot the cloud image as a nfs root (and PXE). Unfortunately I don't know what cmdline parameters to use so that it works. The longer story is that I want to be able to run diskless clients with overlay root filesystem. I've been doing that by modifying the desktop iso image. This works, but it is difficult to automate deployment and customisation. I thought using cloud-init with the cloud image may be better, but the boot g [14:52] ets stuck on initrd shell [14:52] I use ubuntu 18.04 [15:01] hmm it looks like I had a typo and that's why it wasn't working ... [15:02] lotuspsychje : everytime i set my lcd screen to turn off after idle 10 minutes , once i resume the brightness get reset.It consistent where the Kernel assign for color/brightness control overwrite the brightness control on nvidia driver. [15:05] lotuspsychje : I am nstill newbie , I don't know what is the 18.04 kernel use for own brightness control.xbacklight ? and I found xrandr command can set brightness.I really want someone to help to find which color control keep on overwrite nvidia control.There is no log to search for color control. [15:06] lotuspsychje : I would like to ask , how to find birghtness control on the system log ? minimum I can find out which interferes with the nvidia setting. [15:09] Why does the Ubuntu live USB have only 4GB of space? How am I supposed to install brunch on that? [15:11] finnwww: That might be RAM [15:12] Are you sure? How can I temporarily store things on my SD card? [15:20] finnwww: If you put an ISO on the USB without doing persistence, it will normally load into RAM [15:21] Mm [15:33] hey guys, i am really struggling to get this to work on ubuntu 20 - i want to cronjob a backup of a folder and email it. i have the following tar cvf - /wwwroot | gzip > /tmp/backup.tar.gz | uuencode /tmp/backup.tar.gz | mail -s "directory backup on $(date)" somemail@gmail.com it is sending a noname file of 33 bytes. basically not working. Any ideas how to get this to work? [15:36] thanks peter22222 === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon [16:03] jessequinn: too many " | " pipes; you want some shell &&'s I think [16:04] jessequinn: I suspect what you want is "tar cvf - /wwwroot | gzip > /tmp/backup.tar.gz && uuencode /tmp/backup.tar.gz | mail -s "directory backup on $(date)"" [16:05] jessequinn: or "tar cvf - /wwwroot | gzip > | uuencode | mail -s "directory backup on $(date)" " if you don't want a temporary file [16:05] oops, typo! [16:05] jessequinn: or "tar cvf - /wwwroot | gzip | uuencode | mail -s "directory backup on $(date)" " if you don't want a temporary file [16:06] and another oops, gzip needs to know to use stdin/stdout [16:06] jessequinn: or "tar cvf - /wwwroot | gzip - | uuencode | mail -s "directory backup on $(date)" " if you don't want a temporary file [16:08] Hey, does anyone know why connecting to the internet calls apt-get automatically? I mean what file does this cause? [16:09] Elw3: check update frequency in Software and Updates [16:09] @TJ- let me test, thanks btw [16:10] Uhrg, i removed every gui config tool already. [16:10] Elw3: "grep . /etc/apt/apt.conf.d./*" [16:11] TJ- using "tar cvf - /wwwroot | gzip - | uuencode | mail -s "directory backup on $(date) someemail" sends no attachment [16:12] jessequinn: try each part in turn in a "/bin/sh" shell and check if uuencode is spitting out what you expect [16:13] is there anyway to pipe the tarball into mutt as an attachment. - to answer your question - just sits "processing" the tarball is just 9MB [16:13] I dont see any setting relevant to that TJ- [16:14] point is apt is called, actively called. So its not an apt setting. [16:16] Elw3: there's a service being triggered when network-online target is hit [16:17] I am new to this sevice stuff, how do i find and delete that? [16:20] TJ- yah uuencode just "sits" i have no point of reference but it has been 5 minutes to encode a 9MB file? [16:22] jessequinn: Ctrl+C ... looks like the help and man page don't reflect how it now works! this seems to show it doesn't do what it says with stdin/stdout: "echo test | uuencode" [16:23] jessequinn: seems you need to do the same as gzip and use "uuencode --base64 - " [16:25] Elw3: I'm not sure where it is; I don't see anything that triggers on network-online.target. Are you sure this only happens when the Internet connection is established? There *is* an unattended-upgrades package and option that triggers are boot-time, and some apt daily upgrade timers [16:28] I deleted all of the upgrade packages, all apt references in the systemd folders so i was expecting it to stay calm. But then i noticed it in top again so i renamed the binary and replaced it with a wrapper that notifies me. So yes it gets caled exactly at each reconnect. [16:30] Elw3: what Ubuntu release is this? are you using ifupdown, NetworkManager, or systemd-networkd ? [16:30] Where are the target files again? I only find one of the folders and there it is not. [16:30] Elw3: I think I recall something like that for ifupdown [16:35] For NetworkManager there's /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d, which will run stuff in /etc/network/if-*.d/ [16:38] looks like /etc/network/if-up.d is the cause. [16:40] Know what, gonna delete everything in that. Lets see if i really need it. [16:40] is there a program to test xbox controller input? [16:41] Doest that work with the normal joustick tool? [16:41] Elw3: I don't see anything apt related for that directory on 20.04 [16:41] Well i am on 18.04. [16:42] Elw3: be aware you'll be breaking things by removing package-installed files [16:42] Obviously they removed it cause they where already systemd services for that. [16:43] kinda used to breaking stuff, lets see. brb [16:46] Well nothing broke it seems. [16:47] All unnecessary stuff, further more less cpu usage on boot. [16:51] Thanks TJ- i probably would have never found this file by myself. [16:58] !cron | jessequinn can this help? [16:58] jessequinn can this help?: cron is a way to schedule execution of software/scripts. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto [17:04] What's the best way to update an offline machine with updated packages? I am looking at apt-offline. What's the sig file here? Are there other tools that can archive the dependencies of a debian repo in order to install via the network or a USB drive later? [17:05] jayjo: are you looking for a driver, or you want a full system update? [17:08] jayjo: it needs Python I think. "apt-offline set airgapped.sig --update --upgrade --install-packages package-i-need" then "apt-offline get airgapped.sig --bundle airgapped.zip" then move airgapped.zip to the other PC and do "sudo apt-offline install airgapped.zip" === coetzeer1 is now known as coetzeer [17:45] Tj- yes base64 works, but does not attach a file but rather fills the body with base64 [17:46] jessequinn: that'd be a function of mail I guess; maybe you want uuencode to output to a file then tell mail to attach that? [17:52] yah that is what i am looking at [17:54] jessequinn: if you're really lucky "mail -a -" would read stdin for the attachment! but I'd guess you'll need to do ... | uuencode --base64 - /tmp/attachment.b64 && mail -a /tmp/attachment.b64 -s " ... [18:09] hi folks, when i upgraded to ubuntu 20.04, i cannot launch gimp any more: GEGL version too old! [18:09] GIMP requires GEGL version 0.4.22 or later. [18:09] Installed GEGL version is 0.4.18. [18:09] Somehow you or your software packager managed [18:09] to install GIMP with an older GEGL version. [18:09] Please upgrade to GEGL version 0.4.22 or later. [18:11] peter22222: i just installed gimp, it seems to pull libgegl-0.4-0:amd64 (0.4.22-3) automatic here [18:12] no apt complaints here [18:12] peter22222: system up to date? [18:12] yes system is up to date [18:12] https://askubuntu.com/questions/1244737/gegl-version-too-old-error/1247359 [18:12] i tried this already, but without success [18:13] TJ-: thanks a lot... what is "sig" here. A signature of the repos required? At first I though it was a signing signature that I needed to generate on the offline machine [18:13] is it just a list or a metadata of the archive? [18:14] or is it a signature? Does it ensure the packages have not been modified? [18:14] peter22222: its the gimp version from you installed right? [18:14] *apt [18:15] i was on 18.04, i installed gimp from ppa source mentioned above. before upgrading, uninstalled gimp and uninstalled the ppa. after upgrade to 20.04 i installed gimp from repos [18:16] peter22222: did you sucessfully ppa purged the ppa's before the apt install? [18:16] i tried apt purge gimp, apt reinstall gimp.. deleted .config/GIMP... [18:17] peter22222: could you check your sources.list to doublecheck, or sources.list.d [18:17] lotuspsychje i just found the solution... I reinstalled the ppa from otto-kesselgulash, made a sudo ppa-purge ppa:otto-kesselgulasch/gimp, then installed gimp again from repos... and now... it s working...LOL [18:17] TJ- now i just get an error uuencode fatal error: [18:17] fserr 2 (No such file or directory) performing 'freopen of stdin' on - [18:19] tar cvf - /wwwroot/ansible/ | gzip - | uuencode -m - /tmp/test.tar.gz produces that error [18:19] which i dont understand. shouldnt that just output to the file test.tar.gz? [18:19] jessequinn: hmmm, looks like "-" and an output path don't go together! [18:19] jessequinn: the uuencode help isn't very good [18:19] yes, exactly [18:20] actually some of the stuff I see does recommend generating a signature on the offline box: "You generate a signature on your Debian box at home and carry the signature file on a removable medium" ... but what if the machine does exist yet? I.e. virtual or being newly provisioned ? [18:20] jessequinn: try "... | uuencode -m - > /tmp/test.tar.gz && ..." [18:21] jayjo: sorry, I missed your question! the 'sig' is, from what I can determine, a list of what needs updating/upgrading which the 'get' command executes [18:21] jayjo: we had to use it this week whilst generating new GPG keys on an airgapped LiveISO boot for enrolling yubikeys [18:22] +1 peter [18:22] jayjo: turned out the Yubico instructions to work offline hadn't been tested offline by them and some packages needed installing! [18:22] TJ-: that'x exactly what I'm doing! [18:22] jayjo: you're getting the benefit of our headaches figuring that process out then! [18:22] jayjo: I'm supposed to have written it up but haven't had time as yet [18:23] Wow do I appreciate it. My learning curve with yubikeys, smartcards, and readers has been steep [18:23] mainly CCID -> NFC headaches, but that's not for now [18:24] if you are using an airgapped new installation, do you just get that sig from any VM that runs that AMI, and it would then work on any fresh installation? [18:25] hi all im struggling to install a PPA, as far as i can see its loading the PPA but i cant find any of the contents [18:25] jayjo: I'm not sure what this AMI is? I used a brand new laptop without an OS install and booted it via a 20.04 USB LiveISO [18:27] OK, but should that 20.04 Live USB without any modifications return the same sig? [18:28] jayjo: then I generated new keys for each person in turn, using gpg --homedir /media/xubuntu/${FSUID}/$username [18:28] so then whether I used a Live USB from a different physical USB in the future, as long as I was using 20.04, the same archive would be installable ? [18:28] jayjo: I was using another, regular, 20.04 Xubuntu PC to run the set/get [18:29] jayjo: Could have done that inside an LXD container of course [18:29] jayjo: you can use "apt-offline --release $RELEASE ..." to use a different release source [18:30] dasy2k1: we actually advice to install software from the official repos, or snaps instead of ppa's [18:31] dasy2k1: wich package are you trying to get? [18:31] lotuspsychje, the latest version of Chirp (radio programming software) [18:32] I have a messy set of iptables rules. Any easy way to change that to the default? [18:32] lotuspsychje, comes as a PPA or by python compile which fails due to being unable to find python-serial [18:37] dasy2k1: which Ubuntu release? it'd likely want python3-serial [18:38] TJ 20.04 focal [18:38] TJ-, focal cinnamon respin [18:40] TJ-, i have python3-serial installed but when i try and run the python file i get ImportError: No module named serial [18:40] !info python3-serial | dasy2k1 [18:40] dasy2k1: python3-serial (source: pyserial): pyserial - module encapsulating access for the serial port. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4-5.1 (focal), package size 70 kB, installed size 467 kB [18:40] dasy2k1: sounds like the Python script you're running is invoking python2 not python3 [18:41] TJ-, could be [18:41] TJ just founded it as a flatpak so will try that [18:56] How can I find out if my laptop can produce an image with more resolution than the laptop screen, like on a second monitor? HP Probook 455 born 2016 [18:56] ^^^ not so newbie on 20.04 [18:58] newbwomanjaro: do you mean the modes the GPU can support if they're available on the display? [18:59] Maybe panning can show that, but that tells nothing about what the actual port can output. [19:01] I can't think of any tool that shows the GPU capabilities although maybe there's some 'CTRC' thing to show max frequencies [19:01] or even CRTC ! [19:02] Problem is that resolution alone changes with refresh rate, color depth etc. [19:02] TJ-, done some more research apparently its not yet avalable fror focal yet [19:02] dasy2k1: aha! [19:02] newbwomanjaro: i guess i'd refer to the hardware specifications [19:09] hi [19:10] do u use telegram-cli? [19:10] anyone? [19:11]