[00:14] <timClicks> Is there a minimum Kubernetes version required by Juju (not charms)?
[00:16] <tlm> timClicks: we don't have one defined but here would be based on our API usage
[00:16] <tlm> would have to go through the code and work it out
[00:17] <timClicks> I can probably do that myself
[02:29] <kelvinliu> wallyworld: got this pr for adding startupProb https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11830  +1 plz
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[10:29] <SpecialK|Canon> What's the "opposite" of `juju deploy` please? I'm trying to clean up after `juju deploy cs:~juju/mariadb-k8s` and, well, it's not `destroy` or `rm` or `undeploy`...
[10:33] <stickupkid> juju remove-application
[10:34] <SpecialK|Canon> stickupkid: thanks!
[10:35] <achilleasa> manadart_: can you take a look at https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11831? Try to see if you can break it while QAing
[10:35] <manadart_> achilleasa: Yep.
[11:12] <stickupkid> manadart_, added tests https://github.com/juju/python-libjuju/pull/430
[11:16] <manadart_> stickupkid: Thanks. It's already approved.
[12:38] <manadart_> achilleasa: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/11832
[15:12] <achilleasa> manadart_: since subnets are stored per model, the upgrade step for the ports collection would have to do N space reloads, followed by a per-machine operation... that seems wasteful for large controllers
[15:15] <manadart_> achilleasa: Yes, and we want to change it to avoid per-model repetition. One of many things we'll get to one day.
[15:16] <manadart_> Not sure what we can do here though. Need to think about it.