[03:19] Atul was added by: Atul [06:13] Hey @UniversalSuperBox how did you acquire ssh for nexus 5x? [06:14] @Camden B [I was going to be developing with it.], You can find help with it in https://t.me/UBports_Lomiri [07:12] Hey! Is there any way to check cpu temperature of device? [07:19] @SomeIrrelevantPerson0000 [Hey @UniversalSuperBox how did you acquire ssh for nexus 5x?], Hmm dont tell me you are still working on it 😆 [07:20] @mrcyjanek [Hey! Is there any way to check cpu temperature of device?], Depends on the hardware in the device, but probably the drivers expose smth in /sys/class/hwmon and /sys/class/thermal. Go get a look there [07:24] @Flohack [Depends on the hardware in the device, but probably the drivers expose smth in / …], Ok, thanks! [07:26] @Flohack [Hmm dont tell me you are still working on it 😆], Actually, I stopped working on it. [07:27] @SomeIrrelevantPerson0000 [Actually, I stopped working on it.], Maybe good decision. Maybe, if I am mad enough after finishing Nexus 6P I will look at 5X lel [07:28] I read somewhere Dalton successfully accessed it via SSH [07:28] Not sure how he did. [07:55] @Flohack [Maybe good decision. Maybe, if I am mad enough after finishing Nexus 6P I will l …], I thought Dalton pretty much wrote off the possibility of a port to the 5X. [07:56] @wayneTBT [I thought Dalton pretty much wrote off the possibility of a port to the 5X.], Yes thats why I said if I am mad enough ^^ it probably will only be for educative reasons [07:57] hah, ok, fair enough. [07:59] Umarakhalifa was added by: Umarakhalifa [10:58] Beer was added by: Beer [10:58] (Photo, 695x434) https://irc.ubports.com/So2js002.png Hi everyone! … I checked the devices.ubuntu-touch.io site, and saw this picture: [10:59] Are they are running ubuntu touch? How can I change the screensaver to be as the left and middle one? I cannot find that option [11:00] Ubuntu Touch one is on the right [11:08] @Beer [Are they are running ubuntu touch? How can I change the screensaver to be as the …], The one on the left is VollaOS, the middle is Sailfish OS and the right is Ubuntu Touch. The right one should really show the notch as seen in the middle, because the currently shipping phone has a notch. [11:12] @Mokmeister [The one on the left is VollaOS, the middle is Sailfish OS and the right is Ubunt …], True, it seems we did some photoshopping there 😆 [11:13] See also screenshots at the end of https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/523 [11:13] ubports issue 523 in ubuntu-touch "UI support for the phones with a notch" [Opinion, Open] [11:17] @Flohack [See also screenshots at the end of https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issue …], device specific offsets to reposition UI elements seems a good idea as a quick fix rather than changing the UI altogether. [11:19] @Mokmeister [device specific offsets to reposition UI elements seems a good idea as a quick f …], Yes thats the only thing we can do right now ^^ so less time than what we would need to make big changes haha [12:03] Janith96 was added by: Janith96 [12:03] hi [12:03] I am new to here. [12:06] welcome [12:07] do you have any questions? [12:09] @Mokmeister [The one on the left is VollaOS, the middle is Sailfish OS and the right is Ubunt …], Alright! Thanks! [12:09] also it's not really a screensaver xD [12:10] @Fuseteam [also it's not really a screensaver xD], lockscreen ;) [12:15] What is the advantage of a server-based notification system over notifications directly from the app? [12:19] The app doesn't need to be running all the time and waste resources [12:36] so it saves battery [12:42] @j2g2rp [do you have any questions?], what topic? [12:45] harkishansingh was added by: harkishansingh [12:51] @Fuseteam [so it saves battery], A LOT of battery. Most apps try to be very responsive so they might do prefetching of data, housekeeping etc. plus they also account for transfer volume which is sometimes an unwanted spend [12:51] Push notifications are a few byte of data, and the transfer protocol is ultralight [12:52] Without app suspension the CPU wont go to sleep, the clocks are running etc. Thats whats partially still happening on the Pinephone and therefore the endurance is limited still [12:53] @Janith96 [what topic?], about Ubuntu touch of course [13:01] ah interesting [13:01] thanks for the insight [13:01] So that's what unique about ut? [13:02] I got 1 day battery on a device which gets 9 hours on Android [13:06] unique? it's the first mature mobile linux that is not android :^3 [13:08] and well it has less background processes and less unexplainable apps, also all default apps are opensource [13:10] To such an degree that the default keyboard can be modified to look this: [13:10] UT's idle battery is generally great [13:11] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/iJMu0vvD.png [13:11] and yes the idle battery is great, and the multitasking swipe gestures [13:16] @Fuseteam [unique? it's the first mature mobile linux that is not android :^3], or WebOS, or Tizen, or ... [13:18] Isn't webos TV and tizen a fail [13:20] @TigranKhachatryan [Isn't webos TV and tizen a fail], no, WebOS was made for phones and released in 2009 with the first Palm Prē [13:20] by your definition, UT is also "a fail" [13:21] i was simply clarifying that it is not "the first Linux on phones that isn't Android" [13:23] @dohbee [by your definition, UT is also "a fail"], Nah. I was just saying that Tizen is useless to me and I don't care about it. I knew UT for some time and loved it but I learned about Tizen a month or two ago [13:24] I didn't hear about another WebOS though, I thought it was used on some LG TVs [13:24] @j2g2rp [about Ubuntu touch of course], Ok [13:24] But turns out there is some other WebOS too? [13:24] LG bought the rights to WebOS and used it on their TVs [13:25] Palm/HP used it for phones/tablets [13:25] and now there is LuneOS continuing it from the open sourced parts [13:25] Ah [13:25] Okay [13:25] There have been a lot of Linux mobile OS's that have sunk, so let's make sure that Ubuntu Touch, and the other Linux mobile operating systems that are still in development, keep running. [13:25] Lune OS? [13:25] I never heard about that [13:26] twilipi was added by: twilipi [13:26] hi [13:27] @twilipi [hi], Hello [13:27] Hello [13:27] is anyone using meizu pro 5? [13:28] A phone? [13:28] as I recently owned and fixed this phone, and I'd like to install ut into it [13:28] @Janith96 [A phone?], yeah [13:28] See if it is supported [13:28] it is [13:29] wanna like to know if anyone has some experience when installing it from android [13:29] It is pretty straightforward [13:29] but it is complicated because it's a phone that had retail Ubuntu Edition [13:30] as there's several guides, one is using the installer, and one is using cli, which isn't confident for me as I'm not a frequent linux user [13:30] @twilipi [wanna like to know if anyone has some experience when installing it from android], UT uses different partitioning on it, from factory, so the OEM Ubuntu Edition image must be flashed first, before modern UT can be installed [13:30] you can get more help in https://t.me/WelcomePlus with installing on that device [13:30] Android also has a Linux kernel? [13:30] yes android is linux [13:31] @dohbee [UT uses different partitioning on it, from factory, so the OEM Ubuntu Edition im …], I see, I found this guide but the official website suggest instal via their installer … https://forums.ubports.com/topic/2755/meizu-pro-5-flyme-os-to-ubuntu-touch-modem-update-fingerprint-function [13:31] So,why is hard to install? [13:31] because phones aren't PCs [13:31] so, what u mean is the file system is different between original and ut version [13:31] you can find a million explanations of it in the group history [13:31] and that's why it need to use this special way to install [13:32] @dohbee [because phones aren't PCs], But,I think their recovery mode can install os? [13:32] Instead of bios [13:32] @twilipi [and that's why it need to use this special way to install], yes. technically only "Meizu Pro 5 Ubuntu Edition" is supported, so you need to make your phone be that first [13:32] @Janith96 [So,why is hard to install?], embedded system isn't PC, they aren't using BIOS/UEFI to arrange component and drivers to make compatible each other [13:33] Yeah [13:33] @dohbee [yes. technically only "Meizu Pro 5 Ubuntu Edition" is supported, so you need to …], I see, I'll try install it after backing all my stuff up to my PC first [13:33] thx [13:33] you're not going to come up with some way to install a generic build on any device so don't bother wasting your neurons on trying to think of a way :) [13:33] Can't you flash another filesystem with fastboot or emergency download mode? [13:34] @dohbee [you're not going to come up with some way to install a generic build on any devi …], Ok,understand [13:34] if we could do a generic build for all devices, we'd already be doing it [13:35] Then,which is the your topic? [13:36] the topic of this group is Ubuntu Touch [13:36] Any shellscript or commands do not appear here? [13:36] @Janith96 [Any shellscript or commands do not appear here?], are you trying to install Ubuntu Touch onto a phone/tablet? do you have it installed already? [13:37] Ok ,I got it is the Ubuntu mobile version,Now ,I know [13:37] @dohbee [are you trying to install Ubuntu Touch onto a phone/tablet? do you have it insta …], No,I have Ubuntu on my desktop. [13:57] lemuzbashzin was added by: lemuzbashzin [13:58] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/u4CbfMKe.webp [13:58] Hi @lemuzbashzin, do you have a question about UBports or Ubuntu Touch [14:00] sam told him this was a place to post frog stickers, in the Linux and gaming discussion. [14:00] Oh. Well that's not very nice. [14:01] @UniversalSuperBox [Hi @lemuzbashzin, do you have a question about UBports or Ubuntu Touch], Actually [14:01] Just following the development [14:01] Because I saw there is a thing going for my device [14:01] @dohbee [i was simply clarifying that it is not "the first Linux on phones that isn't And …], fair enough :p [14:01] I didn't even know there was a Group here [14:01] @lemuzbashzin I think you've heard that we don't quite like to get into the discussion of the Pepe the frog character or its various meanings outside of funny internet meme. Please refrain from using the character here. Otherwise have a nice day [14:01] @UniversalSuperBox [@lemuzbashzin I think you've heard that we don't quite like to get into the disc …], Well, ok then === JanC_ is now known as JanC [14:03] @Janith96 [So,why is hard to install?], Because Android did only use the kernel from Linux, not everything else. And they also heavily modified the kernel, so its more like a "Linux derivative work" than original Linux. Also, they do not have opensource drivers or such, and their C library is not compatible with what GNU/Linux traditional [14:03] ly uses [14:06] but when it comes to installing it's mostly the closed sourced drivers making it difficult no? [14:06] yes [14:06] it really doesn't have much to do with bionic vs gnu libc [14:08] that has more to do with app compatibility i guess [14:10] yes, bionic vs gnu is just userspace [14:17] arierrefleniad was added by: arierrefleniad [14:17] @Fuseteam [that has more to do with app compatibility i guess], Well not only apps but all userspace tools like configuring Bluetooth. Loading firmware, using camera etc. Basically all things where Android has helpers that need to run as cmdline tools or daemons. They need their own environment and libs [14:18] Hello [14:18] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/z6NdWfVf.webp [14:51] yo [14:58] EsdrasTarsis was added by: EsdrasTarsis [15:15] @Flohack [Well not only apps but all userspace tools like configuring Bluetooth. Loading f …], Sir are Possible to unused common DT? [15:27] Do you know a good player for local music? Standard loved to freeze [15:35] @DarknessHiddenorg [Sir are Possible to unused common DT?], Sorry I dont understand your question [15:35] @Flohack [Sorry I dont understand your question], Can me unused common device tree [15:36] @Flohack [Sorry I dont understand your question], So many conflict there with vendor device tree [15:36] Fwd from DarknessHiddenorg: [buil](https://github.com/Ubports-Land/Ubports-CI/runs/869835163#step:5:1263)build/core/base_rules.mk:183: *** device/xiaomi/msm8937-common/gps: MODULE.TARGET.FAKE.wifi_symlinks already defined by device/xiaomi/land/rootdir. … [1262](https://github.com/Ubports-Land/Ubports-CI/runs/869835163#step:5:12 [15:36] 62)make: *** [/home/runner/work/halium/out/build-lineage_land.ninja] Error 1 … 1263build/core/ninja.mk:166: recipe for target '/home/runner/work/halium/out/build-lineage_land.ninja' failed … Help I can't find where error found [15:36] @DarknessHiddenorg [Can me unused common device tree], Depends on the device I would say but this has nothing to do with the problems I described [15:37] @Flohack [Depends on the device I would say but this has nothing to do with the problems I …], Ok [15:37] @DarknessHiddenorg [build/core/base_rules.mk:183: *** device/xiaomi/msm8937-common/gps: MODULE.TARGE …], This I can't find where the error [15:39] @DarknessHiddenorg [This I can't find where the error], Please use Porting group, here its a general group [15:39] @Flohack [Please use Porting group, here its a general group], Ok [15:39] Sorry [15:40] So many ubport group make me confused [15:40] @DarknessHiddenorg [So many ubport group make me confused], You cannot discuss all things in one group dude [15:40] here are over 3000 people, mostly end users, not devs [15:40] @Flohack [You cannot discuss all things in one group dude], XD [15:40] @Flohack [here are over 3000 people, mostly end users, not devs], OK thx [16:10] @DarknessHiddenorg [OK thx], and please remove the slurs from your display name [16:27] Yippii!! Finally got the PinePhone :-) [16:35] Woop Woop [16:40] @Flohack [Well not only apps but all userspace tools like configuring Bluetooth. Loading f …], that's interesting; today i learned [16:50] Does anyone have a backup ubuntu on a hammerhead? [16:54] @Mr_K3y [Does anyone have a backup ubuntu on a hammerhead?], I can create a twrp backup, but why you can't just use the ubports installer? [16:55] @vtsoft [I can create a twrp backup, but why you can't just use the ubports installer?], I would be grateful for backup. … Gives an error message. [16:55] (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc.ubports.com/zTLU8tLh.png I installed android 6.0.1 and still an error through the installer. [16:56] Just use flashable zip [16:56] Wipe data if it's required or smth [16:56] Write adb push file location [16:56] Flash [16:56] Live happy [16:56] :-)))) [16:57] Hi [16:57] @popeyenica [Hi], Hello [16:57] @TigranKhachatryan [Just use flashable zip], UT doesn't work that way [16:57] @Mr_K3y [], what is the exact error? out of space? did you have android 10 in it before? [16:58] @Mr_K3y [I would be grateful for backup. … Gives an error message.], ok, I will create a backup [16:59] @dohbee [UT doesn't work that way], I thought Halium and stuff were flashable or is it overwriting the partition table and putting its own stuff or smth? [16:59] @TigranKhachatryan [I thought Halium and stuff were flashable or is it overwriting the partition tab …], no, it's not an android rom. you can't just flash it with twrp like other android roms [16:59] Hm, okay then [17:01] @dohbee [what is the exact error? out of space? did you have android 10 in it before?], There was an android 10. … And also the official sixth. [17:01] @vtsoft [ok, I will create a backup], Thank [17:02] @Mr_K3y [There was an android 10. … And also the official sixth.], i think you might need to manually fix the partition after having gone to android 10, even after flashing OEM 6.0.1 image [17:03] @dohbee [i think you might need to manually fix the partition after having gone to androi …], I do not know how to do that. [17:03] you have to flash twrp and do it in there i think [17:04] but i don't know specifics either [17:26] @dohbee [and please remove the slurs from your display name], Why [17:27] BTW that is sar not slurr and meaning sir [17:27] because it is a slur and we respect people in Ubuntu groups, and follow the Code of Conduct, which is "be kind" [17:27] @DarknessHiddenorg [BTW that is sar not slurr and meaning sir], "retarded" is a slur [17:31] @dohbee [because it is a slur and we respect people in Ubuntu groups, and follow the Code …], Ah yes New rules [17:31] I hear that before [17:31] Ok [17:33] no, not new rules. ubuntu community has had this for many years [17:33] @dohbee [no, not new rules. ubuntu community has had this for many years], Ok [17:33] @dohbee [no, not new rules. ubuntu community has had this for many years], Now how? [17:33] @DarknessHiddenorg [Ok], also remove from the tag in your display name please as it has the same slur. [17:33] BTW on my country slurr has meaning spirit [17:34] @dohbee [also remove from the tag in your display name please as it has the same slur.], Okok [17:34] Done [17:34] thank you [17:45] @dohbee [thank you], Ur welcome [17:52] mohammed_ahmmed_spah was added by: mohammed_ahmmed_spah [18:16] @Mr_K3y try files.vtsoft.dev/hammerhead/ubports.txz [19:02] (Photo, 1280x719) https://irc.ubports.com/3WqfmbaJ.png [19:03] wget it [19:03] Wowowowowowowowow deepin looks better than people told me [19:04] I still can't move to other DEs [19:04] @Mr_K3y [], wget it or try again now [19:12] Hello everyone, how I can install adb on UT, if "sudo apt update" on phone show me that repositories 16-th UT are died? [19:14]