 @TBotNik, Check that your hard disk mode is not Raid in bios. It's the default in some laptops even when there's only one disk and Ubuntu doesn't like it. If you intend on dual booting you need to run some cmd first otherwise your existing windows installation will bsod. I can try and find the instructions I've used if you need
[07:32] <TBotNik_> All: Just upgraded my server to Ubuntu 18.04 LTS and installed MySQl.  Can login at cli, but "root" login will not let me create users nor set permissions, so not really root.  How do I fix this as I can do nothing with MySQL at all right now?
[07:34] <dahlia> I just installed 20.04 and when I open anything it starts off of the screen so I can't use any program
[07:36] <dahlia> I can click them on the task bar and see the animations but they fly off the screen
[07:36] <TBotNik_> dahlia: It's know that any release is not stable until 2 years after release!
[07:36] <dahlia> :(
[07:37] <TBotNik_> dahlia: Only use LTS versions and only after 2 years to fix bugs.  Np real testing going on by any of the OS developers!
[07:38] <dahlia> i thought 20.04 was LTA
[07:38] <dahlia> LTS
[07:42] <TBotNik_> dahlia: I just installed 18.04 and it's so absolutely screwed that I'm looking for another Linux distro!  The OS developer on Ubuntu think we want "Windows" so trying to mimic that total MicroSuch piece of grap.  Anyone on Linux, which is 25 years ahead of windows doe not want an OS the looks like, smells like sounds like or in anyway simulate winduhs. Hell we're 25 years ahead of the crap and do not want to go backward!
[07:42] <TBotNik_> dahlia: LTS=LifeTime Support
[07:44] <TBotNik_> dahlia: If you look there will be both 20.04 and 20.04 LTS. so get the LTS version, but the stable one is 18.04
[07:44] <dahlia> https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-20-04-lts-has-been-released/
[07:45] <TBotNik_> dahlia: Yes but 20.04 will only be stable in 2022!
[07:46] <dahlia> TBotNik_: I'm looking for help with my problem
[07:48] <TBotNik_> dahlia: When they first release it, it's a beta, so unless you have core debug capability not a good fit.  I don't have core capability, because I'm way to busy to bust my balls dealing with crap! Sorry!  You and I seem to be the only ones not sleeping right now!
[07:51] <TBotNik_> dahlia: What's really crazy is this thread shows 318 logged in users but they wen to sleep leaving their computers on and logged in , so giving total false impression that there is someone out here to help right now!
[07:52] <dahlia> I guess I could install gentoo but having to compile everything when installing is a pain and I like to be able to use my computer and not redesign all the software on it every other day
[07:53] <TBotNik_> dahlia: My biggest beef with 18.04, out of a list of over 100 problems, is that they took away "Super Window" which is an absolute must for a developer like myself  Always have over 100 Windows open and cannot find anything without the Super Windows!
[07:53] <dahlia> I had 18.04 and I liked it but I had a failure of my system disk
[07:54] <dahlia> but I have to get it working now and I can't sit here and chat distro religion
[07:54] <TBotNik_> dahlia: Were you a new user on 18.04?
[07:55] <dahlia> define "new user"
[07:55] <TBotNik_> dahlia: I've been on Ubuntu/Kubuntu since 2004.04
[07:55] <dahlia> I've used linux since I downloaded 2 floppy images on usenet that some guy in finland posted around '91 if that's what you mean
[07:56] <TBotNik_> dahlia: New to Ubuntu/Kubuntu!
[07:56] <dahlia> no
[07:58] <TBotNik_> dahlia: Well you see how long I've been on it. Been computing since 1974 back in the "card deck" days!  He He!
[07:59] <dahlia> lucky you. I was able to write my homework on a teletype
[07:59] <TBotNik_> dahlia: I'll shutup now since there is no one to help with my MySQL problem!
[08:03] <TBotNik_> bye
[08:47] <dahlia> I figured it out. I had my kvm plugged into both my motherboard hdmi and my dgpu hdmi so it thought I had 2 monitors attached and it was starting the programs on the other "monitor" https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=96304
 @diogenes_, I' ve done that but doesn't work with my kubuntu... Thanks anyway for the help
[09:28] <diogenes_> ri2928, i forgot what we were talking about.
[09:29] <viewer|97> hello
[09:29] <viewer|97> is anybody here, need some help
 @diogenes_, Sorry my mistake. I had probelm with my wifi connection, network manager keeps asking for my wifi password even if it's right and doesn't allow me to connect
[09:38] <diogenes_> ri2928, then try to change the wi-fi security method on your router to WPA & WPA2 Personal.
 @diogenes_, Already set that. That's a strange thing... Can be a problem with Focal Fossa ? Because 18.04 doesn't give me that problem
[11:20] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:26] <n4mu> Hello
[12:26] <n4mu> Quick question - Is there a way to reinstall Kubuntu in something like "repair" mode?
[12:27] <n4mu> I've booted to a live USB and the installer is proposing to resize the current kubuntu partition to have room for a new kubuntu, so it doesn't seem to recognize I already have Kubuntu (same version too)
[12:28] <n4mu> Perhaps there's something else I can do? If not, I will just "overwrite" (I have /home backed up)
 Using the manual option, Installing to the existing partitions without reformatting is "similar" to a repair.
[12:30] <n4mu> This will overwrite, without deleting I assume. If so, my home will remain, and so will any other system file/program?
 Conifig files in your home directory should be preserved, but you will need to manually re-install custom programs that did not install to the /opt partition.
 Thanks btw. :]
[12:31] <n4mu> Just to be clear, I used the "default" when I installed, and surprisingly, there's only one partition, not even a swap partition (there seems to be a swapfile thing going on - yes, I'm old) : ]
[12:32] <n4mu> So I guess that everything "might" be overwritten, without deleting old files, so home should stay, but possibly any other "broken" file.
[12:32] <n4mu> For context, the user had "an issue", shut down the compter, and now it won't fully start (I can't recall which service it blocks at, I can find that, but at this point...)
[12:33]  * n4mu is turning on other PC to find error message, if that's helpful, but because there's zero results on search, I'm assuming this user has a unique and unkown issue, possibly HW/hdd related
 Ensure the user has free space on their linux partition.  I have seen 3 different 20.04 installs create very large /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kernel.log files that filled up the root directory
[12:35] <n4mu> lots of free space, that was the 2nd thing I checked
[12:35] <n4mu> 1st was fsck
[12:38] <BluesKaj> n4mu, is this a UEFI/gpt or legacy mode install?
[12:39] <n4mu> BluesKaj: I'm not sure, it's an older computer. I installed this 2 months ago (approx) and all was fine. User "had issue", hard-shutdown, and since, services get launched, but freezes at some point (I'm trying to find the name of the last service launched before freeze)
[12:40] <n4mu> so, for good measure, I backed up /home/user and am willing to reinstall, SMART test and see. But, am just a tad curious to know if there's another way, or if someone knows about such an issue.
[12:40] <n4mu> (but I'm not being useful right now, having lost the only detail I had)
[12:43] <BluesKaj> if the pc is more than 10yrs old then it's most likely legacy which is fine. If you're using separate / (root) and /home partiitons make sure / is over 10GB
[12:43] <n4mu> (and irssi history is too short :/)
[12:44] <n4mu> pc is probably ~8, default kubuntu uses 1 single partition, so that's what I did. (I wanted the user to be as autonomous as possible, otherwise Debian with multi-partitions)
[12:45] <n4mu> so, I'm guessing I should re-install, and possibly, at least do a manual repartition, because seriously, one partition seems odd.
[12:45] <n4mu> (and I've never heard of swapfile before)
[12:48] <BluesKaj> yes, uefi/gpt will create an /efi/boot partition and a / partition for the OS
[12:49] <n4mu> Indeed, there's a small "fat" partition and then just one / - so reinstalling without deleting /home is a gamble.
[12:49] <BluesKaj> the ubiquity installer that is
[12:51] <n4mu> There's no "separate /home" option. I think I'm not at ease with the installer (I'm used to Deb), just for the partition part. Everything else is super easy, and because this isn't for me, I'm happy to install Ubuntu/KDE, but sometimes, I have to help and I'm a bit lost
[12:53] <BluesKaj> so you want save yor /home dir data ?
[12:54] <n4mu> I wanted a separate partition, but it seems unclear. I'll figure it out (manual partition it will be)
[12:55] <n4mu> (Not trolling - perhaps I should just install Debian as I've been using that for almost 2 decades)
[12:56] <BluesKaj> there isn't much difference from debian except the ubuntu installer is easier to use than the textual debian one
[12:58] <n4mu> I know it's very close, which is why I was very happy to install Kubuntu (plus I'm a KDE user too), but then when there's some issues, it takes me too much time (because I'm old and grumpy)  : ]
[12:58] <BluesKaj> m4v, hehe, welcome to the club :-)
[13:24] <n4mu> BluesKaj: thanks for your help and understanding.  : ]
[13:25] <BluesKaj> np m4v, let us know what you decide to do if and when
[13:26] <BluesKaj> oops n4mu ^
[13:30] <avery> Hey guys
[13:30] <avery> I'm having some issues with KDE on Kubuntu 20.04
[13:31] <BluesKaj> avery, ok, details will help :-)
[13:31] <n4mu> I think I'm going to retry re-install Kubuntu, and possibly advise the user get a slightly more recent computer one day (this thing seems old, like 9 years old)
[13:32] <n4mu> I've already spent way too much time on this machine.
[13:32] <avery> I have a dual monitor setup and after making the computer go to sleep, the monitor configuration gets wonky. Wonky in the sense that one of the monitors is disabled upon waking up and after enabling the other monitor, I have more issues.
[13:32] <avery> The issue is that a one pixel vertical line is leaking from one monitor to another.
[13:33] <avery> Another issue is that maximized windows follow the size of the taskbar from the other monitor. While the monitor where the window is maximized exists no taskbar.
[13:33] <n4mu> BluesKaj: as for feedback, it's really too bad there's not an "easy" option to have a separate /home in the partitionning section, it's the only step that's less flexible than on Debian. Everything else feels easy. I also like that it doesn't wait for me to decide on everything, it's already installing stuff. :]
[13:34] <avery> I'll upload and a video and a screenshot of the main issues.
[13:35] <BluesKaj> n4mu, if you just want to install kubuntu cleanly just create one large partition and let kubuntu ubiquity installer do the rest, you can setup separate / and /home partitions in the installer partition phase by using manual partitioning
[13:36] <BluesKaj> avery, afraid I'm not well versed when dealing with multiple monitors
[13:36] <avery> Oh, okay.
[13:36] <avery> Thanks for replying though!
[13:37] <avery> I should probably open a bug report on github.
[13:37] <BluesKaj> or launchpad
[13:37] <avery> Oke, thanks! :)
[13:40] <n4mu> BluesKaj: I chose "one partition" thing - something like "use the whole disk and automatically do the thing"
[13:40] <n4mu> like I did initially
[13:41] <n4mu> It will do it's thing, I'll restore the user's home, and then, do a smart test while I sleep.
[13:41] <BluesKaj> n4mu, ok
[13:42] <n4mu> It's the easiest at this point. I'm in that phase of life where spending a full whole day helping someone with their computer is not as exciting as it used to be.
[13:42] <n4mu> I want to be outside, writing, biking and so on. :D
[13:45] <BluesKaj> n4mu, installing kubuntu shouldn't take more than an hr or so, depending on the pc specs of course and your internet connection
[13:49] <n4mu> BluesKaj: indeed.
[13:49] <n4mu> (Usually, I install Debian, and I have apt-cacher-ng, so it's super fast, usually the bottleneck is disk IO)
[13:52] <BluesKaj> right, never tried apt-cacher, but reinstalling here usually takes about 20mins or so
[14:15] <n4mu> BluesKaj: yeah, it wasn't long. Apt-cacher-ng is really great if you do a lot of installs, or have multiple connections and/or a lousy connection.
[14:17] <n4mu> I've a low-power server for various things, it does PXE boot and has apt-cacher-ng, so when I do deb-installs with full KDE desktop and other things, it's almost all LAN traffic. It can be worth the effort if you have a lab, or even for install parties. (I once took, just the HDD and a RasPi with apt-cacher with me, and it really helped for an install party with a poor connection)
[14:17] <BluesKaj> n4mu, seems like a good idea alright, too bad i didn't know about it it yrs ago when I was using a much slower ISP
[14:18] <n4mu> Obviously, it works for Ubuntu, just one line to add or something. It's very useful in some cases. :]
[14:18] <n4mu> (and can do multiple systems and so on)
 @n4mu, Do you have an easy way  to manage laptops using apt-cache when you take them out of your home network? I want to auto use apt-cache when on the home network but skip it when away from home.
[14:24] <n4mu> DarinMiller, either "git" to change /etc/apt/sources.list (I just comment and uncomment lines, top of the file is for LAN, bottom is WAN, I press <F6> in vim to autocomment)
[14:25] <n4mu> or an old and dirty script that could detect the network and copy sources.list.LAN to /etc/apt/sources.list (or sources.list.WAN), but I've not gone that far.
[14:34] <n4mu> BTW, this computer, (old Sony Vaio vpcef3e1e might be broken somewhere, Kwin, on new install, is not responding, and disk is in read-only mode, I didn't even do anything other than try to click anywhere)
[14:34] <n4mu> Computer (probably HDD) is leaving this world, slowly, but surely.
[14:38] <n4mu> And now, initramfs thing. This computer is over.
[14:52] <BluesKaj> perhaps installing a ssd will extend the life of the pc
[14:56] <n4mu> BluesKaj: First I will run smart tests (from live USB)
[14:56] <n4mu> if the HDD passes, then there's something else wrong with this computer.
[14:56] <BluesKaj> right
[14:58] <n4mu> I'm also thinking about just getting a second hand thinkpad (this one is a Sony Vaio, I very much dislike Sony for too many reasons)
[14:59] <n4mu> HDD fail !
[15:00] <BluesKaj> aha!
[15:00] <n4mu> so, we know that all the illogical issues where because of HDD FAIL! :]
[15:00] <n4mu> Just enough not-fail to pass fsck, re-install, but enough FAIL to FAIL :]
[15:23] <n4mu> BluesKaj: thanks, but also, I can't remember the pseudo of the person who tried to help me 2 days ago, I'm sorry, I should have opened a PM thing at least to remember to keep them updated.
[15:23] <n4mu> HDD fail, and possibly more hw failings (not RAM, I tested that, it works)
[15:23] <BluesKaj> how much ram?
[15:24] <BluesKaj> n4mu,^
[15:27] <n4mu> 4g
[15:27] <n4mu> I'm going to advise to either find an old HDD from a friend, or really cheap OR get a ~300€$ thinkpad.
[15:28] <n4mu> This computer is for minor tasks...
[15:34] <n4mu> I'm going AFK, thanks for your great company. :D
[15:47] <BluesKaj> ok n4mu, good luck :-)
[18:22] <dirtycajunrice> Does anyone know what script kde-plasma calls to initialize an openconnect vpn connection? I am tryinig to add vpn-slice and cant find the file
[20:02] <KeNZai> Hello I want to make the default language in Turkish, how can I do it?