| n4dir | hi there. I got no more sound for my external speaker. I had the problem earlier, it seems to come and go, but i don't know how to troubleshoot it. | 22:38 |
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| n4dir | same is valid for the headphone if i plug it in. Internal speaker works. | 22:38 |
| n4dir | i created another user, works for him. Now how to figure out which setting is wrong? | 22:49 |
| OvenWerks | n4dir: Do you have a more complete description of what is happening? | 22:59 |
| OvenWerks | is jack running? | 22:59 |
| OvenWerks | sound from what application? | 22:59 |
| OvenWerks | how are the interanl and extrernal speakers hooked up? | 23:00 |
| OvenWerks | (to which which audio interface) | 23:00 |
| n4dir | OvenWerks: jack is running, but the same is valid if it is not. The internal speaker is from the laptop, the external is plugged into the laptop. | 23:14 |
| n4dir | the funny/weird thing is that it happens after reboot, it worked, so i didn't change anything. And it also started to work again without much input from me | 23:15 |
| n4dir | this is 2 or 3 days in a row now. Stops working, starts working again. | 23:15 |
| n4dir | pavucontrol says "no soundcard available". | 23:15 |
| n4dir | i guess that is still too vague. sorry for that. pretty new to audio stuff. | 23:16 |
| n4dir | i usually use mocp to play audiofiles. i tested vlc, but it had the same problem. pavucontrol showed via volume meter there is output, but i heard nothing, as said. | 23:17 |
| n4dir | else i tried to get the head into zynaddsubfx and ardour. | 23:17 |
| OvenWerks | n4dir: if pavucontrol says "no soundcard available" that is a good indication jack is running. | 23:21 |
| OvenWerks | unless jack has crashed | 23:22 |
| n4dir | ok, got that. | 23:22 |
| n4dir | as in: i wasn't sure about it until now | 23:22 |
| OvenWerks | ubuntustudio controls unloads pulse's alsa modules when it starts jack and then bridges pulse to jack. | 23:22 |
| n4dir | ok. | 23:23 |
| OvenWerks | when jack is not running pulse should show the devices | 23:24 |
| OvenWerks | when pulse sees the device, switching from one device to the other will be automatic. | 23:24 |
| n4dir | i stopped jack with qjackctl, lots of back and forth, but i am quite sure that pavucontrol didn't show "soundcard" after stopping jack. | 23:24 |
| n4dir | which it sure did in the past | 23:25 |
| OvenWerks | if you start jack with -controls that is how you should stop it too. | 23:25 |
| OvenWerks | qjackctl does things differnt | 23:25 |
| n4dir | sorry, i don't understand that. | 23:25 |
| OvenWerks | if you use ubuntustudio-controls to start jack then that is also the way you should stop jack | 23:26 |
| OvenWerks | otherwise pulse will not get reset | 23:26 |
| n4dir | ah, i see. I didn't use ubuntustudio-controls | 23:26 |
| OvenWerks | ok | 23:26 |
| n4dir | but it is either the one or the other. not mixing both methods | 23:26 |
| OvenWerks | right | 23:27 |
| n4dir | ok, thanks | 23:27 |
| OvenWerks | in alsamixer which devices do you see? | 23:27 |
| OvenWerks | I should ask in a different way... | 23:28 |
| OvenWerks | aplay -l | 23:28 |
| n4dir | HDA Intel Mid ? (yeah, probably a different way). ah, ok | 23:28 |
| OvenWerks | shows what? | 23:29 |
| n4dir | a second, quite some output i will pastebinit | 23:29 |
| OvenWerks | aplay -l |pastebinit | 23:29 |
| n4dir | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/thd6FBwd6f/ | 23:30 |
| OvenWerks | ok so just one audio card. | 23:31 |
| OvenWerks | amixer -c 0 scontrols |pastebinit | 23:32 |
| n4dir | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MHHdgY8GnP/ | 23:32 |
| OvenWerks | so the internal speakers use the speaker level control and the external is Front? | 23:34 |
| n4dir | sorry, but i really don't know. Usually i plug in the external and that makes the internal silent. And the other way around. | 23:35 |
| n4dir | to raise or lower the volume i just use "master" | 23:35 |
| OvenWerks | have you ever opened alsamixer? | 23:36 |
| n4dir | but yes, external seems to be front | 23:36 |
| n4dir | yes, but only ro change the volume by usin "master" | 23:37 |
| OvenWerks | in alsamixer when you plug and unplug things the levels and mutes for those plugs should change | 23:37 |
| n4dir | the "speaker" of alsamixer doesn't change. i can't change it | 23:38 |
| OvenWerks | when you plugin the phones the phone level should go full and the mute should go off | 23:38 |
| OvenWerks | if it a full level control or just a switch? | 23:38 |
| OvenWerks | can you give me a screen shot? | 23:39 |
| n4dir | of alsamixer? | 23:39 |
| OvenWerks | ya | 23:39 |
| n4dir | give me a bit | 23:39 |
| n4dir | OvenWerks: https://postimg.cc/nsG5f1GS | 23:41 |
| OvenWerks | ya the speaker is just a mute button if you move to it and hit m you shoud get sound. | 23:42 |
| OvenWerks | same with headphones I see. phones are not muted right now. | 23:43 |
| OvenWerks | you have a different setup than I have seen before. Good info. | 23:44 |
| OvenWerks | (for me) ;) | 23:44 |
| n4dir | so i probably hit "m" by confusion, and also i hit "m" by accident to make it work again. Which is less unusual than it may sound. switching windows in "screen" i use "n", which is quite close | 23:45 |
| n4dir | OvenWerks: this should be pretty much the way it was from the beginning. I installed a few days ago, perhaps 1 or 2 weeks | 23:45 |
| OvenWerks | do you have devices in pavucontrol right now? | 23:46 |
| n4dir | no, but let me look again. | 23:46 |
| n4dir | no | 23:46 |
| OvenWerks | I have a long command all one line... | 23:47 |
| OvenWerks | cd /tmp && wget https://community.ardour.org/files/adevices.sh && bash ./adevices.sh |pastebinit | 23:47 |
| OvenWerks | That will let me see if something else is using the audio | 23:48 |
| n4dir | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/spG684c7Wc/ | 23:48 |
| OvenWerks | so jackdbus is running | 23:49 |
| OvenWerks | cat ~/.config/autojack/autojackrc |pastebinit | 23:49 |
| n4dir | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cCjThkFfFz/ | 23:50 |
| OvenWerks | open ubuntustudio-controls go to the audio setup tab and hit "Stop jack" at the bottonm | 23:51 |
| n4dir | ok, stopped | 23:51 |
| OvenWerks | pavucontrols shold show devices now. | 23:52 |
| n4dir | in case ... yes, it does show it. | 23:52 |
| OvenWerks | ubuntustudio-controls remembers the last command about jack so if it is running when you reboot it will still be running next time you boot up | 23:53 |
| n4dir | OvenWerks: assuming i hit the mute "m" in alsamixer, it should create the problem for both, pulse and jack, right? | 23:53 |
| n4dir | or might it be the problem is what you just said? (i had a quick look at ubuntustudio-controls, not sure when) | 23:54 |
| OvenWerks | possibly, but also if jack is started in ubuntustudio-controls and then stopped /started from qjackctl that would cause trouble as well | 23:54 |
| n4dir | and said earlier, mixing qjack and ubuntustudio-controls. | 23:54 |
| n4dir | ok, one last question, hoping this problem won't occur again (at least i will have learned a bit to troubleshoot): | 23:55 |
| OvenWerks | The last paste showed that ubuntustudio-controls had started jack and thought it was running | 23:55 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Moral of the story: don't use qjackctl. It's outdated and cumbersome. | 23:55 |
| OvenWerks | the long line showed that jackdbus was running | 23:55 |
| n4dir | would you advice me to rather use ubuntustudio-controls instead of qjackctl ... the question was answered already :-) | 23:56 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | n4dir: It's built to *replace* qjackctl in functionality and be easier to use, so yes, absolutely. | 23:56 |
| OvenWerks | n4dir: also, any profession audio program (like ardour with the alsa back end) will block the device from other uses untill exit | 23:56 |
| n4dir | how would i "route" devices like the midi-keyboard in ubuntustudio-controls ? | 23:57 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | n4dir: That's why Carla is linked. Use the patchbay tab in Carla. | 23:58 |
| OvenWerks | n4dir: right now auto switching from internal to extren speakers to headphones does not happen while jack is running. | 23:58 |
| OvenWerks | the next version of studio-controls does... I am not so sure about the speaker thing though :) That will take some thought. | 23:59 |
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