 @ParaplegicRacehorse [<reply to media>], did you enable Virtio GPU + OpenGL rendering?
 I don't know about virtio, but it should be possible to pass QEMU same arguments as through cmdline
 [Edit] I don't know about virt-manager, but it should be possible to pass QEMU same arguments as through cmdline
 virt-manager didn't have a problem with display; only networking. Still fiddling with it in hopes it will provide a somewhat better experience than the command line provided to me earlier. … Unless someone has a Nexus7 (2012: grouper) image available for me to flash onto some hardware?
 I'm really confused about why it's starting a VPN daemon in the first place.
 No, grouper is not supported
 I know. It makes me sad, too.
 I tried to get the old Bodhi Linux image (for grouper) going a few months ago. Failed, but it was an interesting experiment.
[02:01] <ubptgbot> Master_yodhaa was added by: Master_yodhaa
 @ParaplegicRacehorse [virt-manager didn't have a problem with display; only networking. Still fiddling …], it only had verry verry old preview builds on ot
 (Photo, 1451x2560) https://irc.ubports.com/eLn45eak.png
 @ParaplegicRacehorse [virt-manager didn't have a problem with display; only networking. Still fiddling …], there wouldn't be any downloads still up, and really old, was not supported earily on in the process - it was never able to run mir
 @PhoenixLandPirate [Scratch that, I think theres only some apps that have the hold down and tap +/- …], I never used that way to zoom. Two finger pinch is normally working for zoom in/out in webviews. Although in most cases zooming out is somewhat limited.
 @Danfro [I never used that way to zoom. Two finger pinch is normally working for zoom in/ …], they're different types of zooming, pinching is zooming in and out of the contents while the zoom function is zooming in and out while also adjusting the content to fit the screen so its like resizing a browser window where the content adjust
[04:43] <ubptgbot> s to the width and height
[04:50] <ubptgbot> <Camden B> (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/q9x5t91T.png J4+ port
 is still possible to install a cli software into ut?(like transmission-cli) … I tried via terminal and it seems refused to install
 Root system is read only. You can install applications in libertine containers though
 and I tried libertine to do so, but I have no idea to launch that thing up(I tried the GUI version like transmission-qt but loading icon)
 something like ubuntu-app-launch xenial_transmission-qt_0.0
 [Edit] something like " ubuntu-app-launch xenial_transmission-qt_0.0 "
 and I tried to find those software via " libertine-container-manager list-apps " … it shows transmission-qt but not the cli, strange
 @Javacookies [they're different types of zooming, pinching is zooming in and out of the conten …], Ah, ok. I need to try this out then. Thanks for the info.
 @twilipi [is still possible to install a cli software into ut?(like transmission-cli) … I tr …], Made it read/write before?
 I know, but just checking the obvious things.
 @Danfro [Made it read/write before?], well now I can install and launch transmission-gtk successfully
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/Xz69dwjB.webp
 @Danfro [Made it read/write before?], then how can I confirm libertine is R/W-able?
 Don't know. I am not using libertine. But because the container is meant to install stuff, there is no point why it should bebread only.
 [Edit] Don't know. I am not using libertine. But because the container is meant to install stuff, there is no point why it should be read only.
 or is there anyway to use common ubuntu command in libertine
 I know you can do some libertine stuff from terminal. Not sure how and what though. Does the doc help with that?
[06:25] <ubptgbot> M4rcosG4briel was added by: M4rcosG4briel
 but the telegram web app still isn't really good on uploading doc/photos, seems too hard to navigate to the correct folder due to dialog window misalignment
 https://upload.cc/i1/2020/07/16/HAzEv0.png … https://upload.cc/i1/2020/07/16/G3HukD.png
 [Edit] https://upload.cc/i1/2020/07/16/HAzEv0.png
 https://upload.cc/i1/2020/07/16/G3HukD.png
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/0B7Fv0Fs.webp
 @twilipi [https://upload.cc/i1/2020/07/16/G3HukD.png], is this the webapp of telegram? i don't think that should be happening. It should be using content hub instead
 @Javacookies [is this the webapp of telegram? i don't think that should be happening. It shoul …], yep, but in any case, I gonna try reinstalling it in order to know is some weird things occurs or a bug
 @Javacookies [is this the webapp of telegram? i don't think that should be happening. It shoul …], I think content hub is broken on the Pinephone?
 @Flohack [I think content hub is broken on the Pinephone?], kinda but I think not in all apps and I don't see that window
 Anyways, a web app will never be able to use the content hub, how it should know about it? Its just a container for a browser window
 @twilipi [yep, but in any case, I gonna try reinstalling it in order to know is some weird …], is it the one from the openstore?
 @Javacookies [is it the one from the openstore?], ya
 nope, reinstalling still get this weird screen, definitely a bug
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/5jc01OdJ.webp
 also, the virtual keyboard can easily cover the text bar so that I can't see words when typing
 IDK the devs of this webapp is here, simply hope teleport and this webapp can be useful some days
 there's a known issue with scaling in thr pinephone. It should work normally once that's fixed
 @twilipi [yep, but in any case, I gonna try reinstalling it in order to know is some weird …], Mywebtelegram?
 Works fine here with content hub
 @malditobastardo [Mywebtelegram?], I've downloaded
 however idk why the key hasn't generated
 I guess I need some cooldown though
 It should work fine
 PS: I've downloaded 1 hr ago
 its stuck with sending code?
 yes
 after entering my phone number, it should generating a code, but it stucks at that steps
 so I believe it might be requesting code too often
 that's why I decided ignore for a while and see what will happen
 might be anti-account attacking mechanism, IDK
 Who knows anymore
 Are you in the pinephone right?
 nope, in a meizu
 You are right. Forgot it
 Teleports still shows blank right?
 @malditobastardo [Teleports still shows blank right?], yep
 If that account is not new, you will get the code send to your existing Telegram account. Use another option to check messages like Telegram Desktop.
 @Danfro [If that account is not new, you will get the code send to your existing Telegram …], the problem is the code can't be generated
 @Danfro [If that account is not new, you will get the code send to your existing Telegram …], [Edit] the problem is the code isn't generated
 so I can't even proceded to the next step
[08:38] <ubptgbot> suruaku was added by: suruaku
 Hm. Not sure then. Checked the number? I think you need to pick country first, not just type the full number with country code. Could be something like that. Otherwise sorry, no idea.
 Well I've got another  non-open store  version  of  telegram and it works
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/SPQz5cgL.png
 It isn't the latest version with full feature, at least it isn't broken as others
 Although it isn't fully featured, at least it isn't as broken as other version as those open store's clients
 I just wish that there would be more Matrix clients in Openstore
 @Beer [I just wish that there would be more Matrix clients in Openstore], why? Fluffychat works well
 @Javacookies [why? Fluffychat works well], I am not a fan of the looks - pink, dogs and stuff
 But, I can change that?
 @twilipi [Well I've got another  non-open store  version  of  telegram and it works], have you checked the app logs? … also, now that this version is working for you, perhaps you can try again the openstore version?
 @Beer [I am not a fan of the looks - pink, dogs and stuff], so just the branding? I don't see pink aside from the icons … there's dark mode as well
 @Javacookies [have you checked the app logs? … also, now that this version is working for you, p …], I mean those app found in open store
 @Javacookies [so just the branding? I don't see pink aside from the icons … there's dark mode as …], Yeah, for me it feels something for "furries".... I have nothing against Furries but I would prefer something more neutral
 Those app in openstore are mostly broken
 But the app I currently used is one of our mate suggested via PM
 @Beer [Yeah, for me it feels something for "furries".... I have nothing against Furries …], gd
 @Beer [Yeah, for me it feels something for "furries".... I have nothing against Furries …], [Edit] there's uMatrix but it's not maintainned anymore
 @twilipi [Although it isn't fully featured, at least it isn't as broken as other version a …], Would be good to know which version of Teleports this is or if your mate did change something to fix the login issue. This might help the developers.
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/00OT4nAh.bin
 @malditobastardo
 he send me this version of  telegram
 @Danfro [Would be good to know which version of Teleports this is or if your mate did cha …], at
 that's a version with malware 😝
 I guess that's a build from the upcoming version
 Nope, the old unmaintained Telegram client.
 Not much help for Teleports then.
 @twilipi [Well I've got another  non-open store  version  of  telegram and it works], Where does it come from
 @Flohack [Where does it come from], the guy I mentioned
 @twilipi [@malditobastardo], this one
 Oh god whats this
 Its an old unsupported app
 Dont use it ^^
 And its NOT TELEports (as the name says of course)
 I still use it sometimes :P
 The official maintained now is TELEports but well. If for some reason is giving you issues.. Same with the webapps
 teleports?
 Better than nothing
 telnet 23?
 Teleports is giving me problems when trying to send a message is getting stuck
 So I use the old good deprecated telegram client or the webapp
 what are teleports?
 @Janith96 [what are teleports?], Read above?
 @twilipi [he send me this version of  telegram], And next time If someone send you something via pm you don't have to make it public
 @twilipi [<reply to media>], ?
 I think you mean telegram by teleport.
 The official telegram app for UT is called TELEports
 ok
 @malditobastardo [And next time If someone send you something via pm you don't have to make it pub …], Its just that the old Telegram API will be shut down at some point. Already now it has annoying bugs. Plus its super slow. And it also loads way too much stuff from the server, resulting in more data traffic than necessary
 i cant change my channel to development from settings menu, is there another way to do it?
 @purringChaos [i cant change my channel to development from settings menu, is there another way …], Which device
 pinephone braveheart
 is there a CLI command for same thing?
 @Flohack [Its just that the old Telegram API will be shut down at some point. Already now …], bot api?
 Yeah its a known bug. it is but idk now, maybe ask in the Pinephone UT group
 tried system-image-utils but libcutils could not be found in bionic
 I never have used a ubuntu phone.How it's functionability ? is there a terminal in that version?
 I like to try that
 @Janith96 [I never have used a ubuntu phone.How it's functionability ? is there a terminal …], almost all of supported devices can be used as daily driver (deppending of your needs of course). … There is a terminal of course but you shouldn't expect a linux desktop experience. The system image is read only because things like apt can break
[11:07] <ubptgbot>  de system. … You can install desktop apps through libertine but it is still experimental and the experience os desktop app on a phone screen isn't the best.
 @j2g2rp [almost all of supported devices can be used as daily driver (deppending of your …], Can't install apt manually?
 you can make the image rw but it isn't by default. Using apt by your own riks
 If anything you should use apt within Libertine
 [Edit] you can make the image rw but it isn't by default. Using apt by your own risk
 then compilers work?
 GNU make
 G++
 GCC
 ?
 as alfred says you can use it also from libertine wich is confined
 Why you would use a mobile phone as build device
 just a try
 [Edit] just attempt to do
 Yes you can build on the phone but there is no point in doing it ^^
 @Flohack [Yes you can build on the phone but there is no point in doing it ^^], but,if something is installed from source code,Compiler are required.Like git cloning and installing......
 @Flohack [Yes you can build on the phone but there is no point in doing it ^^], [Edit] but,if something is installed from source code,Compilers are required.Like git cloning and installing......
 @Janith96 [but,if something is installed from source code,Compilers are required.Like git c …], You do not install anything from source code on your mobile device. Its not a normal PC (It also does not look like one ;))
 oh ok
 @Flohack [Dont be salty about it. While the logo is nice its that we should celebrate how …], i'm very impressed just a bit jealous :p tho i'm jealous of all pinephone owners 😂
[12:16] <ubptgbot> chuphojatatha_alt was added by: chuphojatatha_alt
 Hello
 (Photo, 591x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/2tgoHi0R.png Is there any possibility for flutter apps to run to ubport too??
 In future?
 @twilipi [yep], clear your cache?
 @chuphojatatha_alt [<reply to media>], this is has yet to be explored for what it needs
 @Fuseteam [clear your cache?], tried, even reinstall it, still the same
 teleports?
 @Fuseteam [teleports?], yes
 @chuphojatatha_alt [<reply to media>], [Edit] this is has yet to be explored for what it needs, at the very least UT has to migrate to wayland first
 how did you clear cache?
 @Fuseteam [this is has yet to be explored for what it needs, at the very least UT has to mi …], Yes I understand, it surely need time
 @Flohack [You do not install anything from source code on your mobile device. Its not a no …], i technically want to try this with surf lol, probably have to make click first i guess hehehehe
[13:10] <ubptgbot> Furkan Yılmaz was added by: Furkan Yılmaz
 @Fuseteam [how did you clear cache?], There's an app called  UT tweak tools in openstore
 There's an app called  UT tweak tool in openstore
 have you tried clearing everything with the tweak tool?
[13:36] <ubptgbot> nemodf was added by: nemodf
 @Fuseteam [have you tried clearing everything with the tweak tool?], Yes
 UI should look like this
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/2K7iKSke.png
 ㄘㄛ
 that's old client yes
 maybe retry setting it up now?
 @twilipi [<reply to media>], you should get a code in this client
 if now it might be worth taking a look at the logs of teleports
 @Fuseteam [that's old client yes], this client works but teleport isn't … btw how to get those logs for teleports?
 it should but somewhere in .cache
 that client work but it is no longer maintained, teleports is in active development
 @Fuseteam [it should but somewhere in .cache], I found it
 but most of them are qmlc
 how are those user for? log?
 the logs for all apps are under `~/.cache/upstart/` on UT currently
 you can also install logviewer app from the store
 @Christian [Dear all, … I asked some time ago, if there were ways for video calls in ubtouch. …], If the front camera worked in UT on the N5 ... And now you can successfully make voice and video calls / screen sharing (from the second side) in web discord (desktop mode)
 @AllHafRA [If the front camera worked in UT on the N5 ... And now you can successfully make …], eh? we can?
 The browser in UT is the most advanced of all open operating systems that I have ever touched, so I am surprised that it "digests" YouTube through "crutches"
 camera doesn't work in browser on UT on android devices
 @AllHafRA [The browser in UT is the most advanced of all open operating systems that I have …], No hardware acceleration yet :(
 @AllHafRA [The browser in UT is the most advanced of all open operating systems that I have …], it has a long way to go to get that far afaict
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/L81RdHZ0.png
 dat looks legit 👀
 you can do a "video chat" yes, but you simply will not have a camera for it
 so oyou can only odaudio
 also pretty sure you can't do screen sharing in browser under lomiri
 Which is why I'm wondering - does anyone intend to port the Luakit browser?
 @Fuseteam [it should but somewhere in .cache], do you know what's the file name of the log file should be?
 @Fuseteam [it should but somewhere in .cache], [Edit] do you know what's the file name of those log files?
 @twilipi [do you know what's the file name of those log files?], i don't know it off the top of my head
 the logviewer app might make it easier to find the name
 @Fuseteam [the logviewer app might make it easier to find the name], I've installed it, let's see
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/cK2XjDwu.png
 Sth like that
 look for "teleports"?
 yeah it should be listed as teleports in that app
 Fwd from mymike00: `~/.cache/upstart/application-click-teleports.ubports_teleports_0.7.0.log`
 i found it
 not in logviewer but file manager, weird
 hmm that is weird
 nah, that's my eye problem
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/NINr3QH9.png
 hmm perhaps share the log in @ubports_qa_team with a short summary?
 @Fuseteam [hmm perhaps share the log in @ubports_qa_team with a short summary?], you mean toss that log file to those guys right?
 configure your username in logviewer settings then you can send the log to a pastebin; and hopefully it doesn't have any personal data in it
 that could work yeah
 [Edit] that could work too yeah
 If someone needs:
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/566FLnjB.bin
[14:58] <ubptgbot> Chris was added by: Chris
 @dohbee [configure your username in logviewer settings then you can send the log to a pas …], umm, when uploading to pastebin, it gives en error on it
 @twilipi [umm, when uploading to pastebin, it gives en error on it], you need to set a username in the app settings first
 @dohbee [you need to set a username in the app settings first], yeah I've set my username already
 in the settings page right
 [Edit] in the settings page right?
 @AllHafRA [If someone needs:], Please stop sending around a click for an App that has been removed from the Openstore for good reasons
 Its also 32bit only
 @twilipi [in the settings page right?], yes. it's the only cause of error with pastebin that i know of
 sorry, I don't know
 @Flohack [Please stop sending around a click for an App that has been removed from the Ope …], but why it's work on N5?
 @dohbee [yes. it's the only cause of error with pastebin that i know of], OK, I've set the username into same as my pastebin account, however it still gets an error
 :S
 @AllHafRA [but why it's work on N5?], n5 is 32-bit. and the old api still works for now
 (Sticker, 443x512) https://irc.ubports.com/gVj5n2Ka.webp
 @Flohack [Please stop sending around a click for an App that has been removed from the Ope …], Edit and delete it. This is the last time I am sharing something to someone for "testing" purposes
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/2RITCVB5.png
 try an another username maybe?
[15:59] <ubptgbot> Exclish billy was added by: Exclish billy
 perhaps it is an error because the username already exists
 is there any working screen reader for ubports?
 no, a11y support basically doesn't exist right now unfortunately
 sad
 at least theres a dark theme *shrug*
 yeah. the a11y situation in GNOME 3.x makes me sad too
 mhm
 basically a11y situation in linux these days makes me sad
 yea
 yes there's a experiental dark theme accesible in UT Tweak Tool
 Holo dark theme ETA wen
 lol only surudark is available atm
 @Fuseteam [perhaps it is an error because the username already exists], I've made a very long random name, but still no hope