 rip meizu pro 5 lol
[02:57] <ubptgbot> <Camden B> Hey guys, we are into the port of the J4+ and I can't answer a call, why would that be? Would anybody know how to fix it?
 @Camden B [Hey guys, we are into the port of the J4+ and I can't answer a call, why would t …], @ubports_porting
 This group is only for discussion about the OS, not for porting
[03:29] <ubptgbot> <Camden B> Thx
 ubports is a good phoneos, thats all i can really say atm
 @Fuseteam [rip meizu pro 5 lol], Noooooo, I like this phone
 Which mail app do you suggest?
 There is but one: dekko2. Works fine for me. Use imap. I think pop3 is misbehaving.
 @Danfro [There is but one: dekko2. Works fine for me. Use imap. I think pop3 is misbehavi …], Thanks, I give it a try
 Good, it makes my system reboots
 Lol
 @chuphojatatha [There's no network showing in my case, only the previously saved ones], same here
 @Jaymz665 [Noooooo, I like this phone], he is joking
 Do you guys notice something here that might cause my kernel to panic when lxc is starting? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/sYzmQjjPVz/
 Can you get a kernel log from when the crash happens?
 @TuxThePenguin [Can you get a kernel log from when the crash happens?], I have one but is extremely corrupted
 Oooo it's one of those devices
 You might as well send it anyway
 Mine did the same thing
 @TuxThePenguin [You might as well send it anyway], I have a dmseg here https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/TPpp5sQn26/
 Had to get it modifying an upstart job
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/Q0POTe2C.bin
 God I hate devices that do that
 @TuxThePenguin [God I hate devices that do that], Same
 Tho this lasr_kmsg is different because I used a commit to implement it
 `<35>[   36.966464,5] systemd-logind[3823]: Failed to start user service, ignoring: Unknown unit: user@32011.service`
 But the console-rampoos are even more broken
 That was the last line before the kernel panic
 Hmmm
 So it has something to do with systemd?
 I'm not sure, someone else might be able to help though
 I haven't worked on ports for a while and iirc last time I did systemd wasn't even a factor
 No problem thanks ^^
 @TuxThePenguin [I haven't worked on ports for a while and iirc last time I did systemd wasn't ev …], Someone said it could have something to do with CFQ
 Do I watch the q+a on windows xp or haiku?
 Guys
 Can pinephone run Android apps?
 Atleast some basic apps
 Like whatsapp and Spotify
 Not yet.  But with anbox users should be able to do something like that
 there's also a spotify app for ubtouch under development https://forums.ubports.com/topic/4346/futify-spotify-client-need-beta-testers
 @Spikerguy [Not yet.  But with anbox users should be able to do something like that], This is an emulator for desktop Linux?
 something like that, also for some other devices
 but it is experimental yet
 until facebook wants to support ubtouch, anything with whatsapp will be a hack and you could get banned
 spotify probably doesn't mind linux doing linux and running their own app - they get paid anyway
 @rogieroudshoorn [until facebook wants to support ubtouch, anything with whatsapp will be a hack a …], Can't you just run it with anbox?
 Shouldn't get you banned
 @rogieroudshoorn [until facebook wants to support ubtouch, anything with whatsapp will be a hack a …], I finally left WhatsApp a while ago
 yeah you could, if your battery can handle it - it's still a hack
 Ah
 until their app detects anbox and decides to take action
 i believe the firefox OS crew had an app that hooked into whatsapp - that got stopped by facebook
 There's a WhatsApp library for go. Maybe someone can port it to python and make an app
 https://github.com/tulir/go-whatsapp
 If I can get ubports to boot up I might work on some apps for it
 well, if i were you, i'd attempt to check with facebook first - nothing sucks like spending time on an app for them to pull the plug
 @nitanmarcel [https://github.com/tulir/go-whatsapp], Do you have important stuff in WhatsApp?
 Nah
 Think about getting rid of it
 @rogieroudshoorn [until their app detects anbox and decides to take action], Nah, they don't fight custom firmwares running official app
 @NotKit [Nah, they don't fight custom firmwares running official app], yeah, but in thoses cases, they can (typically) do their usual data mining with it. in case of anbox, they get zip
 They still get contacts and messages
 they got that in the custom firefox os app as well i believe
 but i guess we'll see when we get there
 The kaios app is legit. Anyway not for us to really worry about.
 yeah, it is now - i meant loqui im
 had to google hard to remember :)
 LoquiIM used old Symbian reverse-engineered protocol and they eventually dropped that altogether
 Ubuntu touch artifacts for redmi4x not available to download ??
 @Himanshsingh [Ubuntu touch artifacts for redmi4x not available to download ??], Link plz?
 https://github.com/ubports-santoni/ubports-ci/actions/runs/141822651
 @Flohack [Link plz?], Above link 👆
 You need to ask whoever maintains that. It is not ubports foundation
 OK...so it is individually maintained ..
 As I already said: DO NOT use our name "ubports" in repo names accounts etc
 This is exactly the confusion I wanted to prevent
 @NotKit see
 exactly
 @rogieroudshoorn [i believe the firefox OS crew had an app that hooked into whatsapp - that got st …], Kaios the successor of firefoxos does have an official app tho, so i have hope :p
 @Fuseteam [Kaios the successor of firefoxos does have an official app tho, so i have hope : …], kaios is cool tbh
 Sadly also completely proprietary
 @Lorxu [Sadly also completely proprietary], yeh, but cool idea
 @NetHunter10156 [Like whatsapp and Spotify], In either case i would suggest asking whatsapp to support ubuntu touch, the more people ask them the higher the chance they will do it
 Just installed Ubuntu touch on the raspberry pi 4. It says no wifi available. Any quick help?
 The rpi experts are in @ubports_rpi i think
 Thanks
 [Edit] The rpi experts are in https://t.me/ubports_rpi i think
 Hmm did i get the name right?
 @ubports_pi
 @UniversalSuperBox [@ubports_pi], Thanks 😁
 Ah thank dalton :p
 [Edit] Ah thank daltons :p
 [Edit] Just installed Ubuntu touch on the raspberry pi 3. It says no wifi available. Any quick help?
 @Fuseteam [In either case i would suggest asking whatsapp to support ubuntu touch, the more …], True
 Is there a list of groups somewhere?
 [Edit] Ah thanks dalton :p
 telegram doesn't have a feature to list all related groups together unfortunately; we have such a thing on matrix though (but not all groups are bridged)
 https://www.ubports.com/meet-the-community i think has a list i think
 Not sure how complete it is tho
 I only see the welcome group and language focused groups :D
 Ohw 😂
 My bad :x
 And this one in the footer of course
 Hey we can send pms from profiles now in teleports
 [Edit] Hey~ we can send pms from profiles now in teleports cool
 finally got new authenticator update in openstore
 @dohbee [finally got new authenticator update in openstore], awesome! nothing user visible changes I guess?
 @Javacookies [awesome! nothing user visible changes I guess?], qr scanning should be faster
 Cool, using ZXing now? Pulling the image from the viewfinder or processing the frame itself?
 yeah, using zxing; pulling the image because of the issue with qtubuntu-camera
 @dohbee [qr scanning should be faster], I see, haven't used that feature much but a great improvement indeed
[18:09] <ubptgbot> Dirk was added by: Dirk
[18:27] <ubptgbot> <Jeroen Bozz> hi dirk from holland   … i think
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/H8OA4EoV.png
 This update is VERY nice, idk if this was in todays development, but damn thank you who ever worked on this!
 I think they finally merged qtwebengine 5.14 todays
 a huge advance indeed
 Its super useful!
 more technical difficulties today?
 in debian testing: … ```: apt-cache search lomiri … liblomiri-api-dev - API for Lomiri shell integration (development headers) … liblomiri-api-doc - API for Lomiri shell integration (documentation) … liblomiri-api0 - API for Lomiri shell integration (shared library) … suru-icon-theme - Suru icon theme for Lomiri Operating Environment```
 "less secure"
 i mean "why would you want to"
 no @UniversalSuperBox pop is something else ;)
 "It doesn't work but it has it" - @mariogrip
 @amyosx ["It doesn't work but it has it" - @mariogrip], I'm gonna remember this forever
 lol
 Am I dumb or is there really no option to change resolution etc in camera app?
 @Venji10 [Am I dumb or is there really no option to change resolution etc in camera app?], Normal devices with working camera app do provide an option to change the resolution. On some newer ported devices you currently need gst-droid camera alternative for this (and other things) to work.
 @Danfro [Normal devices with working camera app do provide an option to change the resolu …], Okay, thanks
 Which device do you have?
 oh, btw, about the port for lavender
 is the SIM card working correctly?
 @Flohack [I just looked it up, its roughly 2.5% of our user base so lets deprecate it 😆], *cough cough apple*
 @malditobastardo [I think they finally merged qtwebengine 5.14 todays], So this means for qt 5.14 stuff ETA s0n?
 @amyosx [So this means for qt 5.14 stuff ETA s0n?], no, 5.12
 Oh
 I don't really no qt
 Lol
 I use qt for my apps
 But I just use the latest one
 @Danfro [Which device do you have?], Vollaphone
 @amyosx [But I just use the latest one], You should discover that if you use a feature that got introduced AFTER 5.9 that you can not use it for apps on the device. At least that should be the case.
 @Danfro [You should discover that if you use a feature that got introduced AFTER 5.9 that …], Idk if I am xD
 I'm terrible at desktop programming
 Or GUI sorry
 I use pyqt with qt designer
 @Venji10 [Vollaphone], Yep, that is quite new and the port is still in progress. Enjoy the device anyway. 😉
 @amyosx [I use qt for my apps], I only realised how dumb this sounds after it was mentioned in the stream xD
 I'm tired and I should probably sleep but I cant
 @amyosx [Idk if I am xD], For some features they write in the doc "got introduced with version xyz". Otherwise if things don't work, this might be the reason. You should end up with errors like you are using non existing properties or the like.
 This is my work flow for apps is if i have to make an app for something I open qt designer, make the ui, write a bit of python to make it work
 Sounds fairly simple. Why don't we have a full stack of all apps running in OpenStore yet? 😁
 Maybe you where just lucky so far?
 I make them for personal use on desktop
 And they are only really any good for my use
 But if I can package pyqt apps I'd make some lol
 Ok. Desktop will have newer Qt version available.
 When I'm awake xD
 pyotherside works with qml under UT.
 @Danfro [Ok. Desktop will have newer Qt version available.], Yeah, although wont the packages be the same as 16.04
 @Danfro [pyotherside works with qml under UT.], OK is it like pyqt
 Your system will update qt for you I would guess. For UT that needs to be "manually" added to the system.
 If you're feeling like party people, head over to Whereby, we're having a post-show chat there: https://whereby.com/ubports-chat
 @Danfro [Your system will update qt for you I would guess. For UT that needs to be "manua …], Is there a Ubuntu touch chroot tool
 That'd be really nice
 Go on to a tty, run a script and bang
 Got a Ubuntu touch dev environment
 No mods to your system necessary
 I don't know. But bang will happen and your system will be broken. 😊
 Maybe.
 @Danfro [I don't know. But bang will happen and your system will be broken. 😊], Lol
 Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! - Marius
 That was one of the best q+as
 It was an interesting one
 Bang!
 I lost the sample and its annoying
 Which q+a was it
 @amyosx [Which q+a was it], https://t.me/ubports_news/658
 @Danfro [https://t.me/ubports_news/658], Not todays
 I meant the one where Marius said "baaaaang"
 Oh, sorry. I missed that. One between 70 and 78 then. I don't remember.
 Mar 21
 76
 Baaaaang
[22:22] <ubptgbot> Dre was added by: Dre