[01:01] Eickmeyer[kde]1: for reference, I think alsainput on the support channel was the person who gave us the "is input only" button for auto add USB. [01:01] Probably. They seem to be describing the same problem. [01:02] the noise when using controls is what I remember [01:03] Yep, something nobody else has ever experienced, which tells me it's 100% a hardware issue on his end. [01:03] At least the current problem is their HW. My guess is still dynamic mic in a made for condenser input. [01:05] All the "profesional recording mics" that look like large diaphram Mics for about $30-ish come with an xlr to computer jack. [01:07] those cables don't work with dynamic mics I would guess and because the 5v ends up with no load... unplugged [02:22] I have an XLR-USB cable that works OK, but it's nice to have an analog gain for the dynamic mics. [02:22] The XLR-USB doesn't work for condenser. [16:24] Eickmeyer[kde]1: do you know if amixer is a part of alsa-tools? [16:24] It should be. [16:25] !info alsamixer [16:25] Package alsamixer does not exist in disco [16:25] !info alsamixer focal [16:25] Package alsamixer does not exist in focal [16:25] Must be. [16:25] I mean, must be part of alsa-tools. [16:25] no, it seems to be a part alsa base [16:26] Ohhhhh. Ok. [16:26] looking at installed files in alsatools [16:28] There are two packages alsa-tools and alsa-tools-gui [16:30] it is in alsa-utils [16:30] ok. [16:31] Eickmeyer[kde]1: i don't know if alsa-utils was a -controls dep (it should be) [16:31] We can add it. [16:31] however, one of the uses of amixer in controls I am switching to use hdajacksensetest [16:32] which is in alsatools [16:32] *alsa-tools [16:33] I think that will provide a better, simpler and less error pron method of detecting headphone plug events. (and maybe speaker events on some laptops) [16:35] Eickmeyer[kde]1: I am wrong, I only use amixer in the one place, so adding alsa-util is not needed (won't be needed) but alsa-tools will be. I will add this in the changelog [16:35] Ok, sounds good.