[01:01] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[kde]1: for reference, I think alsainput on the support channel was the person who gave us the "is input only" button for auto add USB.
[01:01] <Eickmeyer[m]> Probably. They seem to be describing the same problem.
[01:02] <OvenWerks> the noise when using controls is what I remember
[01:03] <Eickmeyer[m]> Yep, something nobody else has ever experienced, which tells me it's 100% a hardware issue on his end.
[01:03] <OvenWerks>  At least the current problem is their HW. My guess is still dynamic mic in a made for condenser input.
[01:05] <OvenWerks> All the "profesional recording mics" that look like large diaphram Mics for about $30-ish come with an xlr to computer jack.
[01:07] <OvenWerks> those cables don't work with dynamic mics I would guess and because the 5v ends up with no load... unplugged
[02:22] <Eickmeyer[m]> I have an XLR-USB cable that works OK, but it's nice to have an analog gain for the dynamic mics.
[02:22] <Eickmeyer[m]> The XLR-USB doesn't work for condenser.
[16:24] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[kde]1: do you know if amixer is a part of alsa-tools?
[16:24] <Eickmeyer[m]> It should be.
[16:25] <Eickmeyer[m]> !info alsamixer
[16:25] <Eickmeyer[m]> !info alsamixer focal
[16:25] <Eickmeyer[m]> Must be.
[16:25] <Eickmeyer[m]> I mean, must be part of alsa-tools.
[16:25] <OvenWerks> no, it seems to be a part alsa base
[16:26] <Eickmeyer[m]> Ohhhhh. Ok.
[16:26] <OvenWerks> looking at installed files in alsatools
[16:28] <OvenWerks> There are two packages alsa-tools and alsa-tools-gui
[16:30] <OvenWerks> it is in alsa-utils
[16:30] <OvenWerks> ok.
[16:31] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[kde]1: i don't know if alsa-utils was a -controls dep (it should be)
[16:31] <Eickmeyer[m]> We can add it.
[16:31] <OvenWerks> however, one of the uses of amixer in controls I am switching to use hdajacksensetest
[16:32] <OvenWerks> which is in alsatools
[16:32] <OvenWerks> *alsa-tools
[16:33] <OvenWerks> I think that will provide a better, simpler and less error pron method of detecting headphone plug events. (and maybe speaker events on some laptops)
[16:35] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[kde]1: I am wrong, I only use amixer in the one place, so adding alsa-util is not needed (won't be needed) but alsa-tools will be. I will add this in the changelog
[16:35] <Eickmeyer[m]> Ok, sounds good.