[01:19] <AgusLinux> Hello guys, a question as a noob. Where are located the apps that I install?
[01:23] <Bashing-om> AgusLinux: Huh ? Can you be more specific for what you seek ?
[01:23] <AgusLinux> And how can I see the space in my hard disk drives
[01:24] <AgusLinux> Bashing-om: like in windows, when you install a program or an app, you choose in what hard disk you instalk
[01:24] <Bashing-om> AgusLinux: Generally ' df -h ' in terminal.
[01:24] <AgusLinux> I'm new on linux
[01:25] <AgusLinux> And have an ssd and two hdd
[01:25] <AgusLinux> In the ssd is the system
[01:25] <AgusLinux> The apps installed goes there?
[01:26] <Bashing-om> AgusLinux: Not so ^ in linux. The locations are predetermined bt our package management system.
[01:26] <Bashing-om> by*
[01:26] <AgusLinux> So, the apps can be installed in any disk?
[01:27] <Bashing-om> AgusLinux: Well - depends on what the app is and what the programmer/maintainer has in mind.
[01:28] <AgusLinux> but, it isn't like in windows where I have a folder with the name of the app
[01:29] <Bashing-om> AgusLinux: Nope - not in linux. Here all supports are shared resources.
[01:29] <AgusLinux> ok
[01:29] <kotek> AgusLinux: which <program>
[01:30] <AgusLinux> OpenShot
[01:30] <AgusLinux> FreeTube
[01:31] <AgusLinux> Oh!
[01:31] <AgusLinux> Forgot, another thing
[01:32] <AgusLinux> How can I share a folder between Xubuntu and windows
[01:33] <AgusLinux> My computer and the other one are in the same net
[01:33] <kotek> I personally prefer creating a partition
[01:33] <kotek> Oh
[01:33] <AgusLinux> I read a tutorial about samba and didn't work
[01:34] <kotek> Why didn't it work?
[01:37] <AgusLinux> kotek: it didn't appear the option to share the folder
[01:38] <AgusLinux> I'll try a tutorial I'm seeing now on it's foss
[09:11] <xu-irc94w> hi
[09:11] <xu-irc94w> how secure is this distro
[09:12] <xu-irc94w> i want to hack my school system
[09:12] <xu-irc94w> i need very secure os
[10:09] <csanyipal> Hi,
[10:14] <csanyipal> my xubuntu 18 system has not booted since this morning.
[10:16] <csanyipal> This happen on my laptop, and now I booted it with Xubuntu installation CD but this CD does not the version of Xubuntu which I have installed in the laptop. This CD is an older version of Xubuntu.
[10:17] <csanyipal> How can I recover the Xubuntu on my laptop?
[10:21] <tomreyn> hi csanyipal! by "xubuntu 18", do you mean Xubuntu 18.04?
[10:22] <csanyipal> Yes, I do.
[10:22] <tomreyn> okay, there was also Xubuntu 18.10, so it's always good to specify the exact version number.
[10:22] <tomreyn> are you still running the live syste now?
[10:23] <csanyipal> Yes, I am running the live system now.
[10:24] <tomreyn> do you know how to mount the root (/) file system of your installed / normal xubuntu installtion in the current system?
[10:25] <csanyipal> I did before this but forget it.
[10:26] <tomreyn> run this in a terminal, it shows known disks and partitions:   sudo fdisk -l
[10:26] <tomreyn> another way to view this information is   lsblk
[10:27] <tomreyn> see if you can identify the disk and partition you normally run xubuntu from.
[10:29] <tomreyn> you can also share this output using e.g.    sudo fdisk -l 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:29] <tomreyn> csanyipal: please mention my nickname (tomreyn) here when you're back.
[10:29] <csanyipal> OK
[10:32] <csanyipal> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/gqpc
[10:34] <csanyipal> tomreyn I think the /dev/sda2 is the root partition of my installed Xubuntu system on the HDD.
[10:35] <csanyipal> The /dev/sda should be my home partition out there.
[10:36] <csanyipal> 6
[10:36] <tomreyn> csanyipal: sda2  is not a real partition, it just marks the beginning of the extended partition space on thisMBR/DOS partitioned disk. your normal / file system will be either the 60 GB sda1 or the 400 GB sda6
[10:36] <tomreyn> so let's look at sda1
[10:37] <tomreyn> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[10:38] <csanyipal> tomreyn /mnt$ ls0    boot  etc   initrd.img      lib    lost+found  mnt  proc  run   snap  swapfile  tmp  var      vmlinuz.oldbin  dev   home  initrd.img.old  lib64  media       opt  root  sbin  srv   sys       usr  vmlinuz
[10:38] <tomreyn> yes, this looks like a root file system
[10:39] <tomreyn> sudo journalctl --root=/mnt --list-boots | tail | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:39] <tomreyn> this should report your latest boots to the installed system
[10:40] <csanyipal> tomreyn https://termbin.com/ka5i
[10:40] <tomreyn> hmm, this doesn't seem to have worked. try this instead:
[10:41] <tomreyn> sudo journalctl -D /mnt/var/log/journal --list-boots | tail | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:42] <csanyipal> tomreyn Using --boot or --list-boots with --file, --directory or --merge is not supported.
[10:42] <tomreyn> oh okay, i didn'T knwo this
[10:43] <tomreyn> sudo journalctl -D /mnt/var/log/journal -b -1  | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:43] <tomreyn> oh wait ths wont work either
[10:43] <csanyipal> OK
[10:45] <tomreyn> sudo last --file /mnt/var/log/wtmp
[10:46] <tomreyn> sudo last --file /mnt/var/log/wtmp 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:46] <csanyipal> tomreyn https://termbin.com/aym7
[10:47] <tomreyn> csanyipal: okay, so this tells us when you have last rebooted from the installed system, and which kernel version was being used.
[10:47] <csanyipal> OK
[10:48] <tomreyn> can you tell me which of these 'reboot   system boot' lines is the one where it failed to boot?
[10:48] <tomreyn> the first one which failed to boot
[10:49] <tomreyn> these times may be given in a different time zone than yours, namely UTC
[10:50] <csanyipal> I think the first one which failed to boot was this: Sun Jul 19 04:52
[10:51] <tomreyn> okay. that's the same kernel version as the previous ones. i assumed that a kernel update wuold have caused the boot to fail, but this does not seem to be so then. can you tell me more about what happened when the boot failed? did you see any error messages on screen? where did the boot seem to fail?
[10:54] <tomreyn> also, did you make any possibly relevant (configuration or other) changes between when the system booted fine and when it first failed to boot properly?
[10:54] <tomreyn> csanyipal: ^
[10:54] <csanyipal> Well, at boot I can see a textual terminal messages only.
[10:55] <tomreyn> just the normal messages scrolling by, or actual erro messages which are shown long enough to read them?
[10:55] <tomreyn> *erroR
[10:55] <csanyipal> I did not make any changes between when the system booted fine and when it first failed to boot properly.
[10:57] <csanyipal> I see a grub menu which I normally does not see at all. There in grub menu first I hit Enter at Ubuntu option but the boot failed.
[10:58] <csanyipal> Then I tried the Ubuntu repair or something like that, but it returns me to the main grub menu out there.
[10:58] <csanyipal> So the grub menu is useless.
[10:59] <csanyipal> Some boot messages are repeated, but do not remember which ones.
[10:59] <csanyipal> That is al.
[10:59] <csanyipal> all.
[11:02] <tomreyn> csanyipal: okay. let's just see some of your system logs then: sudo journalctl -D /mnt/var/log/journal --since '2020-07-19 04:50:00' -k 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:03] <csanyipal> tomreyn https://termbin.com/mqu7
[11:05] <tomreyn> csanyipal: okay. let's try this instead - this can take some minutes to complete:     sudo journalctl -D /mnt/var/log/journal -k > /tmp/log 2>&1 ; sudo tail -n 999 /tmp/log | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:05] <csanyipal> tomreyn https://termbin.com/9ghc
[11:06] <tomreyn> geez, le tme look up how to do this properly
[11:06] <csanyipal> OK
[11:11] <tomreyn> csanyipal: sudo journalctl --file /mnt/var/log/journal/$(sudo cat /mnt/etc/machine-id)/system.journal > /tmp/log 2>&1 ; sudo tail -n 999 /tmp/log | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:11] <csanyipal> tomreyn https://termbin.com/dlu1
[11:14] <tomreyn> csanyipal: what does this report?    sudo ls -lah /mnt/var/log/syslog
[11:14] <csanyipal> tomreyn -rw-r----- 1 systemd-resolve adm 95K júl   18 19:30 /mnt/var/log/syslog
[11:15] <tomreyn> hmm i assume this is from before your system failed to boot, right?
[11:15] <csanyipal> Yes.
[11:15] <tomreyn> let's see it anyways: sudo cat /mnt/var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:16] <csanyipal> tomreyn https://termbin.com/r34ne
[11:17] <tomreyn> okay, this posted just part of the log, i think, let's see the end as well: sudo tail -n 200 /mnt/var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:18] <csanyipal> tomreyn https://termbin.com/a5se
[11:18] <tomreyn> hmm actually it was complete. so your system must have rebooted or powered off unexpectely there
[11:20] <csanyipal> It is a laptop and it can't be powered off unexpectedly, right?
[11:20] <tomreyn> i'll take a closer look at the log. in the meantime, try rebooting your computer again, and when you reach the grub menu, select advanced, then the third record, see if this boots.
[11:20] <csanyipal> OK.
[11:21] <tomreyn> csanyipal: it could, but you're right, more likely than being powered off unxpectedly it would have rebooted.
[11:22] <csanyipal> I am going to reboot now.
[11:22] <tomreyn> ok
[11:34] <csanyipal> tomreyn I have successfully booted with an older kernel which I selected at the grub menu out there.
[11:35] <tomreyn> csanyipal: sweet
[11:35] <csanyipal> What can I do to solve this issue with the newest kernel here?
[11:36] <csanyipal> tomreyn What can I do to solve this issue with the newest kernel here?
[11:36] <tomreyn> csanyipal: we do not really know this, yet. there are many possible reasons why current kernel image fails to boot.
[11:37] <csanyipal> OK. I will waiting for the solution then. Meanwhile I will boot with the older kernel here.
[11:37] <tomreyn> is your disk almost full? df -h | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:37] <tomreyn> if you have a secondary computer or mobile phone, i suggest connecting there with it
[11:37] <tomreyn> connecting HERE, i mean
[11:37] <tomreyn> so that we can chat while you do reboots
[11:38] <tomreyn> also, let's see your current kernel log: journalctl -kb | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:38] <tomreyn> this is to see whether there can be hardware errors.
[11:38] <csanyipal> tomreyn https://termbin.com/t6vp
[11:39] <tomreyn> okay, / running full is NOT the problem
[11:39] <tomreyn> we need to look for other answers.
[11:40] <csanyipal> tomreyn https://termbin.com/j28d
[11:42] <tomreyn> so thats an acer aspire V3-571 or V3-571G
[11:43] <tomreyn> BIOS V1.10, which is an older one.
[11:43] <tomreyn> V3-571 BIOS update: https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/support-product/4076?b=1
[11:44] <tomreyn> V3-571G BIOS update: https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/support-product/4077?b=1
[11:44] <csanyipal> tomreyn Should I update my BIOS then?
[11:45] <tomreyn> not to solve this problem we'Re dealing with. but it may be a good idea in general. up to you to decide.
[11:45] <tomreyn> i'm just putting this here for your convenience and as a reference while reading the logs
[11:47] <csanyipal> OK, thanks!
[11:48] <tomreyn> your current log has a kernel oops about the intel graphics driver, i915
[11:49] <tomreyn> a bios update *may* help there. but a better option may be to just try LTSE stack instead
[11:49] <tomreyn> !LTSE | csanyipal
[11:49] <tomreyn> i suggest you install this
[11:51] <tomreyn> this will give you the same kernel version and X server version you would get if you would do a fresh install Xubuntu 18.04 nowadays.
[11:53] <tomreyn> IF you'll also do the bios upgrade, i assume you may need to go with BIOS version 1.13, because you have 1.10 now, and the newer versions (2.17 and 2.21) are labelled as "Not for Upgrades". This is not very well done by Acer, but I guess they're trying to warn you about not upgrading tot hese versions (these versions may have shipped with newer hardware versions of your device, and may not be compatible with yours)
[11:53] <csanyipal> OK, I am installing it now.
[11:54] <tomreyn> right, try installing and booting LTSE first of all
[11:57] <csanyipal> tomreyn I just installed LTSE and going to reboot now with it. Thanks!
[12:05] <csanyipal> tomreyn I just booted with the LTSE kernel successfully.
[12:06] <tomreyn> csanyipal: okay, that's nice
[12:06] <csanyipal> tomreyn Thank you very much for help!
[12:06] <tomreyn> csanyipal: csan you share another log for this running kernel, so we can see whether the i915 module still oopses?
[12:06] <tomreyn> journalctl -kb | nc termbin.com 9999
[12:07] <csanyipal> tomreyn https://termbin.com/g4fx
[12:08] <tomreyn> no oops this time
[12:09] <tomreyn> i guess you'Re good for now.
[12:09] <csanyipal> tomreyn Thanks again!
[12:11] <tomreyn> you're welcome csanyipal :)
[12:12] <csanyipal> tomreyn :)
[12:16] <csanyipal> Bye!
[20:20] <XubAesome> I upgraded Xubuntu 19 to 20.04 (Focal Fossa), but the software manager went missing.  Help!
[20:21] <diogenes_> XubAesome, it was replaced with snap store.
[20:21] <XubAesome> is snap store a gui?
[20:21] <diogenes_> yes
[20:22] <XubAesome> so forget gnome software, and get snap store by synaptic?
[20:22] <XubAesome> using synaptic package manager?
[20:22] <XubAesome> or apt install?
[20:23] <diogenes_> open the menu, type: store
[20:24] <tomreyn> or keep using synaptic, or start using user-friendly apt on the (virtual) terminal more.
[20:25] <XubAesome> menu --> store doesn't exist
[20:25]  * diogenes_ does 90% of all work in terminal.
[20:25] <XubAesome> can't find snap store in synaptic
[20:26] <diogenes_> !info snap-store
[20:26] <diogenes_> !info snapstore
[20:26] <XubAesome> ? apt !info snap-store ?
[20:27] <tomreyn> i guess snap store may be a snap
[20:27] <diogenes_> right tomreyn
[20:27] <XubAesome> diogenes, how do I use "!info snap-store"
[20:27] <diogenes_> XubAesome, sudo snap install snap-store
[20:28] <XubAesome> diogenes, thanku
[20:28] <diogenes_> XubAesome, you're welcome.
[20:31] <XubAesome> You guys are great :)   can you help me with connecting webdavs?  thunar connect dowsn't work and i noticed Gigolo is installed, but doesn't seem to work well.  Does anbox snap install Gigolo by dependency?
[20:31] <XubAesome> as dependency?
[20:33] <XubAesome> I Bu guys, mean guys/galls :)
[20:33] <XubAesome> gals
[20:34] <XubAesome> by guys, i mean guys and gals.
[20:37] <XubAesome> excuse spellings/typos please.
[20:38] <diogenes_> !patience | XubAesome
[20:40] <XubAesome> ok
[21:10] <XubAesome> I think Gigolo may have been installed by https://github.com/geeks-r-us/anbox-playstore-installer/
[21:10] <XubAesome> as guided here https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/07/anbox-how-to-install-google-play-store.html
[21:12] <XubAesome> or zulucrypt or sirikali? not sure since it was months ago....
[21:20] <XubAesome> Does anyone know if there is/was a website for linux/ubuntu "package dependency browser"?  It would be helpful to quickly click through sub-dependencies from package to package.
[21:21] <tomreyn> there's packages.ubuntu.com
[21:22] <XubAesome> tomreyn: thanks.
[21:22] <tomreyn> and there's your apt CLI, of course: apt depends SOMEPACKGEGOESHERE
[21:24] <tomreyn> about webdav: i dn't know whether it's supported by thunar, but see if you can manually edit the 'path' / 'location' it displays. and if you can enter a custom location, try davs://dav.mailbox.org/servlet/webdav.infostore/
[21:25] <tomreyn> if you get a login prompt there then webdav is supported - you'll just need to change the server (URL) to yours.
[21:27] <XubAesome> yes, xdg-open then prompts for "OX-WebDav".
[21:27] <XubAesome> cool
[21:28] <XubAesome> any thoughts on why thunar "Open Location ..." doesn't do anything, doesn't give a prompt to connect ...
[22:37] <XubAesome> I got disconnected, is there a way to see the chat history?
[22:48] <tomreyn> XubAesome: https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/latest/%23xubuntu.html - but logging is always delayed, up to an hour or so
[22:49] <XubAesome> Thank you | tomreyn
[22:51] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[23:23] <XubAesome> any thoughts on why Thunar - Go - "Open Location ..." or Ctrl-L doesn't do anything, doesn't give a prompt to connect ...	?
[23:25] <XubAesome> Nevermind, I just realized it's just like url...