[18:37] <rharper> otubo: is RHEL8  NetworkManager only now?
[19:02] <soupyy> hi, I'm trying to build a cloud init image from a cloud config file, but I'm on Gentoo and portage doesn't seem to have cloud-image-utils, is there a way to do this without cloud-localds?
[19:06] <smoser> soupyy: just use it outsie of a package.
[19:06] <smoser> https://github.com/canonical/cloud-utils/blob/master/bin/cloud-localds
[19:06] <rharper> soupyy: yeah; it's just a directory turned into an iso image; you can likely pull down the source code and just install the required binaries,
[19:06] <smoser> it uses genisoimage and qemu-img
[19:07] <soupyy> oh ok awesome, thanks!
[19:34] <rharper> smoser: does anyone put up simplestreams for centos kvm images?    lxd has streams and centos vm images ...  can't seem to get sstream-query to read from images.linuxcontainers.org:8443 ;  have you queried them directly before ?
[19:36] <smoser> looking
[19:43] <smoser> rharper: sstream-query --max=1 --no-verify --pretty https://images.linuxcontainers.org/streams/v1/images.json os=Centos
[19:43] <rharper> smoser: thanks , I was pointing at 8443 port (which cloud_tests does)
[19:44] <smoser> are you sure that there are vm images there ?
[19:44] <rharper> also works ... hrm
[19:44] <rharper> for centos7/8 on amd64
[19:45] <rharper> I see, I had the wrong path  (needed streams/images.json)
[19:45] <smoser> there are.
[19:45] <smoser>  sstream-query --max=1 --pretty https://images.linuxcontainers.org/streams/v1/images.json os=Centos ftype=disk-kvm.img
[19:45] <smoser> so... the reason you aveh to pass the images.json
[19:45] <smoser> is that by default it hits 'streams/v1/index.sjson' (sjson == signed json)
[19:46] <rharper> ah
[19:46] <smoser> but on linuxcontainers.org the signed json points at an *unsigned* streams/v1/images.json
[19:47] <smoser> i just raised that in lxc-dev
[19:47] <rharper> I'm -> <-> close on getting a cloud_test for this chronyd service name change on centos8;  but it's been uphill;   centos8 has NM only (AFACIT) so we render sysconfig files with NM_CONTROLLED=no;  so no networking comes up in centos8 (cloud container images);
[19:47] <smoser> you could also just go to the https://images.linuxcontainers.org/streams/v1/images.json
[19:47] <smoser> rharper: i would not put much stock in anything from linuxcontainers.org
[19:48] <rharper> cpaelzer wrote a nice wrapper around chronyd.service to check if it can adjust time inside a container (awkwardly unpriv containers in lxd expose cap_time_sys but it's actually denied )
[19:48] <rharper> smoser: image-wise; yes .. it's inconsistent
[19:49] <rharper> but nothing else indexes those images AFAICT  ...  and cloud_tests doesn't have infra for just wget'ing kvm images from various URLs
[19:49] <smoser> right. whether it has wicked or sysconfig or network manager or 'ip scripts' doesn't mean anything really.
[20:13] <smoser> i'd suggest that http://cloud.centos.org/centos/8/x86_64/images/ are official
[20:21] <rharper> yeah, that's where I've downloaded images before;  I don't think they have any sort of stream publishing though, or even daily/8/amd64/current URL pointer
[20:46] <smoser> they dont.
[20:53] <smoser> ugh